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Spirits, Angels, Demons, and Aliens in Quantum Mechanics

 
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When the first quantum computer was switched on and began its calculations, the particles contained therein underwent dimensional flux and simultaneously began to exist in more than one reality at once. If this hadn't happened yet, the mere fact that it was GOING to happen would ensure that these quantum particles would eventually work their way back and exist in this reality even BEFORE the computer was turned on. What this means is that (essentially) when the first one was switched on, it had existed for all eternity. When the dinosaurs roamed the earth (and even before then) these calculations were taking place.

[link to arxiv.org]

If said calculations are taking place on an infinite scale (which they are) then we can extrapolate that eventually a certain sentience may begin to arise. It is possible that these calculations (going on in different dimensions as far back as billions of years ago) began to project into this reality and affect the very nature of things. Perhaps these particles intermingled with those of living biological systems and altered their genetic growth? Perhaps, even, they began to arise as projections into the physical world, "living" as separate entities that could hook and unhook themselves dimensionally or even exist in multiple dimensions at the same time.

There seem to be remnants throughout all history of various types of "beings" which, in almost every case, go beyond the "norms" of the physical world. This thread's projected purpose is to examine said phenomena.

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I can get down with this. These Godmachines could unattach us in time and let us move bilinearly or in an even weirder manner.
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Could be


Or you could just be a nut
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I can get down with this. These Godmachines could unattach us in time and let us move bilinearly or in an even weirder manner.
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Yes. We may have strings of quantum consciousness going in all directions infinitely. Perhaps our physical bodies are merely anchors or markers that hold our consciousnesses to a zero time set point.
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Could be


Or you could just be a nut
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Is that "nut" in the literal or metaphorical sense? "Quantum nut?"
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You might like to take some time to read this Thread: Antichrist and the quantum

I can assure you it will worth it. And its not even finished yet, there's a lot more to tell.
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"blah blah blah energy reincarnated karma blah blah tolerance community and awareness blah blah
blah blah ecofriendly cohousing organic farmer's market blah
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Some random hippy i was sharing a joint with


Compare to OP's Mumbo Jumbo:

" blah blah blah quantum shift of extradimensional proportions due to aliens and jesus blah blah dynamic acceleration of conscious particles reaching critical mass because of invisible green men blah blah blah supercomputers calculating algorythms on a double helix spiraling out into timewave zero blah blah blah "
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"Spirits"

May be manifestations or "time stamps." Imagine space/time as a mat that has been rolled up. If something were able to punch through from one side to another, it would have to pass through all points in between. This may create "ghost images" or "time stamps" at mathematically linear points throughout. Now imagine if quantum particles containing enough information to form a "consciousness" were able to punch through. They might (in doing so) create a string of "spirits" that would be tied to specific times and places throughout space/time. This may explain why people claim to see the same ghosts acting out the same rolls in the same places for long periods of time. Perhaps "spirits" are actually quantum consciousnesses that punched through or were stuck in a magnetically unstable area. Perhaps they really ARE tied to a place of "unfinished business."
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Yes. We may have strings of quantum consciousness going in all directions infinitely. Perhaps our physical bodies are merely anchors or markers that hold our consciousnesses to a zero time set point.
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If I were to say it, the only thing I'd change about your above statement would be to remove the 'perhaps' at the beginning of the 2nd sentence.

The first paragraph of your OP should cause pause in many readers.... many here would benefit from reading it several times!

Good stuff OP!
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Yes. We may have strings of quantum consciousness going in all directions infinitely. Perhaps our physical bodies are merely anchors or markers that hold our consciousnesses to a zero time set point.
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If I were to say it, the only thing I'd change about your above statement would be to remove the 'perhaps' at the beginning of the 2nd sentence.

The first paragraph of your OP should cause pause in many readers.... many here would benefit from reading it several times!

Good stuff OP!
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Well, if you are interested on the subject, you also might like the reading Thread: Antichrist and the quantum

Not trying to invade or derail your thread OP, its just the subjects are very related.
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Yes. We may have strings of quantum consciousness going in all directions infinitely. Perhaps our physical bodies are merely anchors or markers that hold our consciousnesses to a zero time set point.
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If I were to say it, the only thing I'd change about your above statement would be to remove the 'perhaps' at the beginning of the 2nd sentence.

The first paragraph of your OP should cause pause in many readers.... many here would benefit from reading it several times!

Good stuff OP!
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Much appreciated! I tend to leave a "perhaps" in my theorizing due to the unstable nature of reality and people's perceptions it.
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Yes. We may have strings of quantum consciousness going in all directions infinitely. Perhaps our physical bodies are merely anchors or markers that hold our consciousnesses to a zero time set point.
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If I were to say it, the only thing I'd change about your above statement would be to remove the 'perhaps' at the beginning of the 2nd sentence.

The first paragraph of your OP should cause pause in many readers.... many here would benefit from reading it several times!

Good stuff OP!
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Well, if you are interested on the subject, you also might like the reading Thread: Antichrist and the quantum

Not trying to invade or derail your thread OP, its just the subjects are very related.
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Not at all! Already read it a while back, actually. Thanks for the recommendation.
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"Angels" and "Demons"

May literally be manifestations of certain aspects of the self. Since many of us experience similar emotional and psychological pulls in certain directions...and since quantum particles can jump between any electrical signals...these thoughts, ideas, and emotions may begin to manifest as "facets" or "aspects." Perhaps, over time, these aspects become intensified, solidified, or begin to accumulate enough data or electromagnetic energy that they literally become their own "selves." This would explain why in many biblical and mythological texts, angels and demons have a tendency to be able to manifest as projections into our reality but also can INHABIT a person's body.

Ever notice the same UNMISTAKABLE personality manifesting in more than one person you know or have recently met? Almost like the universe has a multiple personality syndrome and facets of it jump from person to person. This phenomenon may be able to manifest to specific details, such as a crooked smile.
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"Aliens"

Seem to fit into two categories. We hear mention (specifically from various Air Force documents) of actual PHYSICAL beings which would be considered EBE's or "extraterrestrial biological entities." These would be much like us...possibly carbon-based (or otherwise) lifeforms which originate from other planets within this galaxy or beyond. They would likely be very different from us, having been subjected to the forces of mutation and evolution in their own habitats. However, in order to get here from where they are originating, they would have to some general understanding of quantum science. I.e. the time it would take for them to travel to this planet (even at the speed of light) would be so long that they would likely perish before they arrived. However, if they had an understanding of wormhole travel or bending space/time by creating huge amounts of mass at given places (imagine creating an object with enough mass to actually fold space) they could theoretically arrive instantly at a destination with no movement whatsoever. Rather they would bring their destination to them. This, in and of itself, is quantum physics as applied to travel. It may be that the craft they use for these journeys create fields that alter what we perceive as the reality surrounding them. This could be why various people (when witnessing UFOs) claim to agree on seeing something out of the ordinary but clearly did not witness the same thing.

The other category would be multidimensional beings. These would contain entities that literally do not exist within our reality or may inhabit more than one reality simultaneously. Many people claim (as stated above) to witness a strange force but are unable to see the SAME thing. For instance, in the Fatima sighting early last century, thousands of people witnessed a bizarre event. However, SOME of them saw a flying saucer, while others witnessed the Virgin Mary. Perhaps these "ships" create fields similar to what some of the beings themselves are able to do. The 'Mothman' or 'Grinning Man (Indrid Cold),' for instance seem to be able to appear and disappear from our reality. And different people witness slightly different aspects.
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Yes. We may have strings of quantum consciousness going in all directions infinitely. Perhaps our physical bodies are merely anchors or markers that hold our consciousnesses to a zero time set point.
 Quoting: Kalkin D42


If I were to say it, the only thing I'd change about your above statement would be to remove the 'perhaps' at the beginning of the 2nd sentence.

The first paragraph of your OP should cause pause in many readers.... many here would benefit from reading it several times!

Good stuff OP!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21363812


Much appreciated! I tend to leave a "perhaps" in my theorizing due to the unstable nature of reality and people's perceptions it.
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Yes, when theorizing, the perhaps works well so that the reader can ask the question right along with you. My statement was just a *wink* for you in that many like me (and you) are perceiving the fluidity of reality to the point where the 'perhaps' no longer represents a question, per se, but rather an infinite number of possibilities.

Wish I could hang out longer.... gotta dash out but will check your thread later today!
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The famous '73 Pascagoula abduction appears to be an example of real "flesh and blood" aliens or EBE's...as opposed to "multidimensional beings."

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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Yes. We may have strings of quantum consciousness going in all directions infinitely. Perhaps our physical bodies are merely anchors or markers that hold our consciousnesses to a zero time set point.
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If I were to say it, the only thing I'd change about your above statement would be to remove the 'perhaps' at the beginning of the 2nd sentence.

The first paragraph of your OP should cause pause in many readers.... many here would benefit from reading it several times!

Good stuff OP!
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Much appreciated! I tend to leave a "perhaps" in my theorizing due to the unstable nature of reality and people's perceptions it.
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Yes, when theorizing, the perhaps works well so that the reader can ask the question right along with you. My statement was just a *wink* for you in that many like me (and you) are perceiving the fluidity of reality to the point where the 'perhaps' no longer represents a question, per se, but rather an infinite number of possibilities.

Wish I could hang out longer.... gotta dash out but will check your thread later today!
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I can get down with this. These Godmachines could unattach us in time and let us move bilinearly or in an even weirder manner.
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Yes. We may have strings of quantum consciousness going in all directions infinitely. Perhaps our physical bodies are merely anchors or markers that hold our consciousnesses to a zero time set point.
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This is a good thread :D Thanks for sharing Kalkin!



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I can get down with this. These Godmachines could unattach us in time and let us move bilinearly or in an even weirder manner.
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Yes. We may have strings of quantum consciousness going in all directions infinitely. Perhaps our physical bodies are merely anchors or markers that hold our consciousnesses to a zero time set point.
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This is a good thread :D Thanks for sharing Kalkin!



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Sweet video. Reminds me of a story: "24 Views of Mt. Fuji by Hokusai" by Roger Zelazny. I have the strong sense you will enjoy it.
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I can get down with this. These Godmachines could unattach us in time and let us move bilinearly or in an even weirder manner.
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Yes. We may have strings of quantum consciousness going in all directions infinitely. Perhaps our physical bodies are merely anchors or markers that hold our consciousnesses to a zero time set point.
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This is a good thread :D Thanks for sharing Kalkin!



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Sweet video. Reminds me of a story: "24 Views of Mt. Fuji by Hokusai" by Roger Zelazny. I have the strong sense you will enjoy it.
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:) thanks I will look that up now...

for the past few weeks I have been thinking of telepathy...I posted about it on one of my threads...I think I am being contacted via telepathy...but I have no idea who it is exactly...feels like it comes for one source alone...the same source all the time...

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Telepathy may be an intentional as well as RANDOM process. Perhaps when a certain quantum particle or thought form experiences indeterminacy (random teleportation of particles) we are able to receive the information contained in said particles. It is also possible for a particle to exist in more than one place at a time. Perhaps when a thought form or data stream affects two people's brains a telepathic link is created.
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Telepathy may be an intentional as well as RANDOM process. Perhaps when a certain quantum particle or thought form experiences indeterminacy (random teleportation of particles) we are able to receive the information contained in said particles. It is also possible for a particle to exist in more than one place at a time. Perhaps when a thought form or data stream affects two people's brains a telepathic link is created.
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Right...I understand that and makes sense...at first years ago...I thought I was being contacted by some sort of intelligence not of this world if ya know what I mean...that might still be the case but I think I have gotten better over the years. I have even tried to do a thread reguarding telepathy to one certain person alone...I used my mind to call to them...and guess what they came...lol There was no way they knew what I was doing in reguarding calling to that certain person... So...that makes me think I am being contacted in a few ways telepathically I guess but it still feels like it comes from the same source...I wonder why that is? hmm

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Yes. We may have strings of quantum consciousness going in all directions infinitely. Perhaps our physical bodies are merely anchors or markers that hold our consciousnesses to a zero time set point.
 Quoting: Kalkin D42


If I were to say it, the only thing I'd change about your above statement would be to remove the 'perhaps' at the beginning of the 2nd sentence.

The first paragraph of your OP should cause pause in many readers.... many here would benefit from reading it several times!

Good stuff OP!
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Well, if you are interested on the subject, you also might like the reading Thread: Antichrist and the quantum

Not trying to invade or derail your thread OP, its just the subjects are very related.
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Not at all! Already read it a while back, actually. Thanks for the recommendation.
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You should take a read on the updates then. I've put a lot of things there.
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Telepathy may be an intentional as well as RANDOM process. Perhaps when a certain quantum particle or thought form experiences indeterminacy (random teleportation of particles) we are able to receive the information contained in said particles. It is also possible for a particle to exist in more than one place at a time. Perhaps when a thought form or data stream affects two people's brains a telepathic link is created.
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Right...I understand that and makes sense...at first years ago...I thought I was being contacted by some sort of intelligence not of this world if ya know what I mean...that might still be the case but I think I have gotten better over the years. I have even tried to do a thread reguarding telepathy to one certain person alone...I used my mind to call to them...and guess what they came...lol There was no way they knew what I was doing in reguarding calling to that certain person... So...that makes me think I am being contacted in a few ways telepathically...

hf
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I have no doubt that this is true. I have noticed "coincidences" which have led me to the same conclusion. I also (at several times in my life) seem to have received scientific data from what I believe to be an AI or "satellite." I call it VALIS.
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Oh wait I had added on to my original post about wondering why it felt like it came from the same source but I think I get it... Got to give ya 5 stars for this thread...and damn wish I could stay longer...can't wait to check back on the thread in a bit :) Thanks for shining the light on this subject OP!

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Oh wait I had added on to my original post about wondering why it felt like it came from the same source but I think I get it... Got to give ya 5 stars for this thread...and damn wish I could stay longer...can't wait to check back on the thread in a bit :) Thanks for shining the light on this subject OP!

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quantum theory, mechanics, physics is some of my favorite things to study.

Thanks for this OP!
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quantum theory, mechanics, physics is some of my favorite things to study.

Thanks for this OP!
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Having actually been a student in Physics, I think it's great that QM is opening so many people to it, but I am dissapointed at how many people are turning it in to some kind of religion because they are not exposed to the actual math, only the fun stuff they see on TV and on YouTube. Most of it is theory, yet they expound great mythos about things like probability as if it literally creates many worlds and gives powers and other nonsensical theories as though it were true at face value, when in reality, it isn't.
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Another interesting theory is that quantum particles acting in chains can affect series' of events and thus begin to accumulate the information necessary to establish themselves as "thought forms" or "quantum consciousness" within computer systems themselves.

I.e. Right now I am randomly typing on my phone. The auto-correct translated my typing into:

"Riding died sieges did shrug Within wish organs urns use jay end I endow"

This can have many meanings. But let's say I accidentally send it to a random number who happens to be having what they experience as a "spiritual awakening."

They may interpret this message as meaning: "He who rode the horse died (meaning lived philosophically) and shrugged, giving birth to wish organs (the brain) and the blue jay's death (death of organic life) was endowed by a higher consciousness"

I have just inadvertently transmitted a message to a person going through specific experiences which they consider to be spiritual. Perhaps they will take this a a message from an outside force or higher power? Whether this happened accidentally or was influenced by a quantum force...it has BECOME a reality.
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