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Explanation why Egypt is in chaos and about to have a civil war!

 
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op is a shill
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Swed thank You!cheers
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Pretty good summary from OP.

US destabilizes already unstable Egypt (oil export, food prices, unemployment, youth bulge, etc).

Then US tries to control the outcome while Russia and China protest.

Egyptians are left in the middle to suffer.
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Great explanation OP!

bump cause i want to see what that asshole/racist BRIEF has to say about this one...
 Quoting: Fukunova


Brief is cool in my book. He maybe strong with words but he speak from the heart and may agree with my analysis and explanation. My comprehension and understanding of this uprisings in the Middle East is from lifes experiences.

Peace and God Bless You!
 Quoting: Centurion


Haha..do NOT agree on that one Op..Brief is cool? I think he is playing a role here...he really knows how to kill a thrad and make people hate him..i just laugh at him. (i learned thats best for all) lol.
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I have never had a problem with him or chatted with him so I really can't judge him. I try not to judge people personally. However, I question there ideas, thoughts, comments motives etc... No disrespect to you, but I just can't judge a person I don't know and I haven' been on GLP long enough to say I do know anyone. I just try to be respectful unless of course I believe something is inherently evil or wrong and I oppose and try to logically conclude how a person came to think or comment on a certain subject. My Apologies if I offended anyone. Peace and God Bless!

y_smile
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Lol Maaaaan..its like blasfemy to use the word "offend" in the same sentence as "brief"..this guy is the most disrespectfull one on the net! As "brief" he just gives brief and short comments on any topic, 99% offencive ones "kill them all" wether tits a race issue, about war, abortion..haha..BUT, i must say he is the most entertaining user on GLP..man if you take him seriously you end up angry all week...full of hate! Lol...still, make your own idea and dont judge..i am only warning for a very special experience...intensive! Like, if he does not agry qith your post he comes and kills it with just a few hatefull useless words..he is killing it right now!
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I just want to tell you I love the Sweden and Finland flags. Peace!y_smile
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I just want to tell you I love the Sweden and Finland flags. Peace!y_smile
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Re: Explanation why Egypt is in chaos and about to have a civil war!
I agree with everything you said except for the about about the majority of non-secular Muslims being violent extremists. That is a very small percentage of the Muslim population. There are millions of non-secular Muslims in America that are peace loving people.

No, I am not Muslim but the number of Muslim extremists is greatly over-exaggerated. The whole heart eating thing is nothing more than Western propoganda.
 Quoting: ThePhoenix_is_Rising


I will explain to you why I came up with this conclusion. It is not something that is an opinion. I have had the opportunity to live and talk with many non-secular Muslims. Mostly Sunni Muslim. Many do not show the violent and extreme nature unless that are in a position to do so without being challenge. I will say it again. They (most) want everyone to live under Strict Islamic Sharia Law. Now if they can't imposing because they are out numbered and powerless they continue to present themselves as "Peace Loving" and once they take control of power they will start to implement their Sharia Law. Those who do not abide by it will be executed. Look at all the territories that feel to the hand of the FSA and AL Nusra Front in Syria. They immediately imposed Sharia Law and executed and massacred thousand. It is document and you can research it your self.
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Thanks OP for the geopolitical breakdown. Don't take too much offense from the haters. This site is mix of schizoid loons, rural goons, and information junkies. Getting quality info to latter group is what counts, as we both know valuable this site is as intelligence-gathering tool. It takes serious critical-thinking skills to sift through some of this trash for reality, but finding gold like this makes it worthwhile.




BTW, I like the Cataphract avatar. I assume its Parthian?
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08/17/2013 05:26 AM
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isn't it because they don't use the new jerusalem calendar?
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Look just shut up now. You'll have that freak come in here and make his ridiculous postings. To the back of the class now bitch!

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Thanks OP for the geopolitical breakdown. Don't take too much offense from the haters. This site is mix of schizoid loons, rural goons, and information junkies. Getting quality info to latter group is what counts, as we both know valuable this site is as intelligence-gathering tool. It takes serious critical-thinking skills to sift through some of this trash for reality, but finding gold like this makes it worthwhile.




BTW, I like the Cataphract avatar. I assume its Parthian?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25858950


LOL. Thank You. It resembles Eurasian Cataphract armor but it is actually meant to be Roman Cataphract as they were introduce to it by the Persians, (Iranians) or Parthian and were so forced to used it later in the Roman era during battles. Peace!
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Re: Explanation why Egypt is in chaos and about to have a civil war!
The population explosion and lack of perspective in these countries also contributes to the situation. No work, no money, no future. Many have come and will come to Europe and continue their way of living. Until the social security system collapses.
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The population explosion and lack of perspective in these countries also contributes to the situation. No work, no money, no future. Many have come and will come to Europe and continue their way of living. Until the social security system collapses.
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What you say is accurate, however, other counties have similar problems but you don't see them massacring other people for the sake of religion. Muslim extremist do. It is their duty to convert you or send you to Allah to be judged for being a KAFIR.
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Many have been trying to figure out what is all the fuss and all the uprisings are about in the Middle East. Some say it is a geo-political war for oil and other natural resource, for religion, power and control among other ideas which all are in fact true to some extent. But they are not the main reason behind all the up-risings.

Though many seem to think they understand, they really haven't got a clue. Everything you here in the MSM is base on half-truths and half-lies. MSM does not want anyone to know or understand the dynamics of the Middle East so they paint the whole region with the image of a predominately crazed Islamic lump of countries with citizen all being the same. What the MSM puts out is false and not at all an accurate picture of people in the Middle East; they are not all same. They are not all that image you see in the movies or on TV where your typical Arab/Muslim as a wicked, evil, crazed maniaic who is a terrorist hell bent on blowing up the world and converting everyone to Islam. There are many Christians there who choose to live their.

The Middle East has Muslim, Christian, Jews, Druze, Allwites, Bahis, Hindus, Buhdist, Sufis. Zorotarian (Freddie Mercury, Atheists and many more. For example, Lebanon has six different religions with 18 different sects in it. It is not all Muslims.

I will explain...

Everyone has there own theory or idea based on something they either read in the news, heard about on TV or heard in a conversation between a few se called experts.

Here it is...
1. Arab/Muslim counties and government are controlled by western Powers. Arab/Muslims have always been occupied by foreign power whether it was directly or indirectly, i.e. Saudi Arabia and the Gulf States, Jordan, are thought to be controlled by Western Powers, and to some extent this is true.

2. These Arab/Muslim governments are perceived by most of their citizens as puppets of Western Powers and are illegitimate. Most believe these Monarchies, Dynasties, Emirates, Autocracies, Dictatorships Governments were put their to serve their masters in the West.

Most Citizens of these Arab/Muslim counties want to see their governments out and a true democracy put in place based on justice, freedom and democracy. This is where things become a little confusing and where we have the cause for internal fighting. It is true that many citizens of Arab/Muslim nations want freedom and democracy but how that democracy is interpreted is a different matter.
* Justice ,Freedom and Democracy to a Muslims is not the same as justice, freedom and democracy to a non-Muslim.

Non-Muslims want to live according to their religious beliefs, and cultural traditions without Islamic Law being imposed on them. They want live a peaceful, honorable, dignified life with the opportunity to raise a family and give their children the opportunity to succeed in life along with being members of a society that is evolving or advancing with the rest of the world and humanity and not stuck in a time capsule based on beliefs, laws, and traditions from the Middle Ages or Medieval times.

* Justice ,Freedom and Democracy to a secular Muslim is not the same as justice freedom, and democracy to non-Muslim and a non-secular Muslim.

Like most Non-Muslims, secular Muslims are moderates and have similarly, deep rooted beliefs of Western Nations and Western societies. They do not want to continue living in a regressed anti modernization society based on beliefs, laws and tradition dating back to the Middle Ages or Medieval times. They want to have the freedom to chose how they live. They want the choice of how the worship, live, going to school, dress, work, party, date, marry, and so on. Secular-Muslims want to live according to their religious beliefs, and cultural traditions without Islamic Law being imposed on them. They want live a peaceful, honorable, dignified life with the opportunity to raise a family and give their children the opportunity to succeed in life.

Lastly, You have the non-secular Muslims, Mainly Sunni Muslims and some Shi'a (Shites). These non-secular Muslims who are the majority are Muslim extremist, Militants, Jihadist, Terrorist and you peace loving salafists and wahabis, widely known for all the massacring, beheadings, cannibalism and terrorism in Syria and mainly supported and funded by the Saudi Arabian Monarchy, House of Saud, and the Gulf Oil States (Emirates).

3. While most of these countries have Muslims who believe that Islam is a true democracy, that is not the case, and if true democracy is implemented in the Middle East all Arab/Muslim countries will have elected officials who are elected and supported by Muslim extremists.

The truth is You Can Not Have Democracy in Arab/Muslim Countries because they will elect people like Mursi of the Muslim Brotherhood, or Khaled Meshall of Hamas.



 Quoting: Centurion


Your thoughts are long and short of facts. To understand the Middle East step back and look at the big picture.
The west is fermenting civil war for 3 purposes
1. That's how they take control of a country
2. Gotta demonise the muzzies make them look like terrorists for the eventual purpose to wipe them all out to bring in the NWO this is also being done with Christians the media is demonizing Catholics also for the day when they destroy them all and bring in the NWO
3. Last but not least inflation conflict in the Middle East causes inflation oil goes up, the fed needs inflation to justify tapering off their printing.

So there you have it so simple, to bring in a N W O you need inflation and naughty muzzies and naughty Christians doing naughty things so you gotta excuse to bring in ya NWO and destroy them all.
Just as obamacare is creating fake jobs so the Middle East is creating inflation this is the recipe mr bernanke needs to stop printing and collapse his beloved derivatives.
And the other recipe is muzzies going wild and catholic priests being naughty boys and they got their recipe for destruction religion it's all about the NWO bro
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45268131


While you do make a good point I want to clarify that I was born in Lebanon. I was in the U S Army. I was deployed in the Middle East, I was a Muslim and left Islam, I HAVE BEEN IN MANY ARAB/MUSLIM COUNTRIES and have had many discussions with Arabs/Muslim from all walks of life. I was an Islamic and Middle East expert, interpreter/interrogator and trainer for members of our Special Forces units. I was part of a Psy Operation in the Middle east and a communication specialist. I believe you miss-understood everything I wrote or did not understand a word I said.

Peace!

y_smile
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I agree with you bro I'm the man who posted this response i agree 100 percent with what you said just adding a few extras to see the bigger picture.
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Re: Explanation why Egypt is in chaos and about to have a civil war!
Great explanation OP!

bump cause i want to see what that asshole/racist BRIEF has to say about this one...
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Who is this BREIF you talking about?
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Great explanation OP!

bump cause i want to see what that asshole/racist BRIEF has to say about this one...
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Who is this BREIF you talking about?
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The faggot with Yosemite Sam avatar. He's just a troll.
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Re: Explanation why Egypt is in chaos and about to have a civil war!
Many have been trying to figure out what is all the fuss and all the uprisings are about in the Middle East. Some say it is a geo-political war for oil and other natural resource, for religion, power and control among other ideas which all are in fact true to some extent. But they are not the main reason behind all the up-risings.

Though many seem to think they understand, they really haven't got a clue. Everything you here in the MSM is base on half-truths and half-lies. MSM does not want anyone to know or understand the dynamics of the Middle East so they paint the whole region with the image of a predominately crazed Islamic lump of countries with citizen all being the same. What the MSM puts out is false and not at all an accurate picture of people in the Middle East; they are not all same. They are not all that image you see in the movies or on TV where your typical Arab/Muslim as a wicked, evil, crazed maniaic who is a terrorist hell bent on blowing up the world and converting everyone to Islam. There are many Christians there who choose to live their.

The Middle East has Muslim, Christian, Jews, Druze, Allwites, Bahis, Hindus, Buhdist, Sufis. Zorotarian (Freddie Mercury, Atheists and many more. For example, Lebanon has six different religions with 18 different sects in it. It is not all Muslims.

I will explain...

Everyone has there own theory or idea based on something they either read in the news, heard about on TV or heard in a conversation between a few se called experts.

Here it is...
1. Arab/Muslim counties and government are controlled by western Powers. Arab/Muslims have always been occupied by foreign power whether it was directly or indirectly, i.e. Saudi Arabia and the Gulf States, Jordan, are thought to be controlled by Western Powers, and to some extent this is true.

2. These Arab/Muslim governments are perceived by most of their citizens as puppets of Western Powers and are illegitimate. Most believe these Monarchies, Dynasties, Emirates, Autocracies, Dictatorships Governments were put their to serve their masters in the West.

Most Citizens of these Arab/Muslim counties want to see their governments out and a true democracy put in place based on justice, freedom and democracy. This is where things become a little confusing and where we have the cause for internal fighting. It is true that many citizens of Arab/Muslim nations want freedom and democracy but how that democracy is interpreted is a different matter.
* Justice ,Freedom and Democracy to a Muslims is not the same as justice, freedom and democracy to a non-Muslim.

Non-Muslims want to live according to their religious beliefs, and cultural traditions without Islamic Law being imposed on them. They want live a peaceful, honorable, dignified life with the opportunity to raise a family and give their children the opportunity to succeed in life along with being members of a society that is evolving or advancing with the rest of the world and humanity and not stuck in a time capsule based on beliefs, laws, and traditions from the Middle Ages or Medieval times.

* Justice ,Freedom and Democracy to a secular Muslim is not the same as justice freedom, and democracy to non-Muslim and a non-secular Muslim.

Like most Non-Muslims, secular Muslims are moderates and have similarly, deep rooted beliefs of Western Nations and Western societies. They do not want to continue living in a regressed anti modernization society based on beliefs, laws and tradition dating back to the Middle Ages or Medieval times. They want to have the freedom to chose how they live. They want the choice of how the worship, live, going to school, dress, work, party, date, marry, and so on. Secular-Muslims want to live according to their religious beliefs, and cultural traditions without Islamic Law being imposed on them. They want live a peaceful, honorable, dignified life with the opportunity to raise a family and give their children the opportunity to succeed in life.

Lastly, You have the non-secular Muslims, Mainly Sunni Muslims and some Shi'a (Shites). These non-secular Muslims who are the majority are Muslim extremist, Militants, Jihadist, Terrorist and you peace loving salafists and wahabis, widely known for all the massacring, beheadings, cannibalism and terrorism in Syria and mainly supported and funded by the Saudi Arabian Monarchy, House of Saud, and the Gulf Oil States (Emirates).

3. While most of these countries have Muslims who believe that Islam is a true democracy, that is not the case, and if true democracy is implemented in the Middle East all Arab/Muslim countries will have elected officials who are elected and supported by Muslim extremists.

The truth is You Can Not Have Democracy in Arab/Muslim Countries because they will elect people like Mursi of the Muslim Brotherhood, or Khaled Meshall of Hamas.



 Quoting: Centurion


Your thoughts are long and short of facts. To understand the Middle East step back and look at the big picture.
The west is fermenting civil war for 3 purposes
1. That's how they take control of a country
2. Gotta demonise the muzzies make them look like terrorists for the eventual purpose to wipe them all out to bring in the NWO this is also being done with Christians the media is demonizing Catholics also for the day when they destroy them all and bring in the NWO
3. Last but not least inflation conflict in the Middle East causes inflation oil goes up, the fed needs inflation to justify tapering off their printing.

So there you have it so simple, to bring in a N W O you need inflation and naughty muzzies and naughty Christians doing naughty things so you gotta excuse to bring in ya NWO and destroy them all.
Just as obamacare is creating fake jobs so the Middle East is creating inflation this is the recipe mr bernanke needs to stop printing and collapse his beloved derivatives.
And the other recipe is muzzies going wild and catholic priests being naughty boys and they got their recipe for destruction religion it's all about the NWO bro
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45268131


While you do make a good point I want to clarify that I was born in Lebanon. I was in the U S Army. I was deployed in the Middle East, I was a Muslim and left Islam, I HAVE BEEN IN MANY ARAB/MUSLIM COUNTRIES and have had many discussions with Arabs/Muslim from all walks of life. I was an Islamic and Middle East expert, interpreter/interrogator and trainer for members of our Special Forces units. I was part of a Psy Operation in the Middle east and a communication specialist. I believe you miss-understood everything I wrote or did not understand a word I said.

Peace!

y_smile
 Quoting: Centurion


I agree with you bro I'm the man who posted this response i agree 100 percent with what you said just adding a few extras to see the bigger picture.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45284748


kool! thank you. I think we are going to see some rough time in Arab/Muslim countries until Islamic Extremist and defeated or the take over the world and convert us all to Islam and make us live under the strict Sharia Law. Muslim extremist have a plan...
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Great explanation OP!

bump cause i want to see what that asshole/racist BRIEF has to say about this one...
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Who is this BREIF you talking about?
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BREIF is a GLP member and someone was commenting about him. I guess they don't like each other. I just told him the truth about how I am with other folks on GLP. This is what I wrote.

I have never had a problem with him or chatted with him so I really can't judge him. I try not to judge people personally. However, I question there ideas, thoughts, comments motives etc... No disrespect to you, but I just can't judge a person I don't know and I haven' been on GLP long enough to say I do know anyone. I just try to be respectful unless of course I believe something is inherently evil or wrong and I oppose and try to logically conclude how a person came to think or comment on a certain subject. My Apologies if I offended anyone. Peace and God Bless!
I honestly have nothing against anyone and just point out the truth as I see it. Peace!
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[link to www.google.ca]

It was to create chaos to cover the economic collapse of the global trade system in 2008...which has now collapsed Egypt like Greece or Spain and Syria.

The populations in those countries are just as oblivious as to what is going on as the population of the USA.

Gigi basically claims the USA is behind all blood flowing in the streets of Egypt and its crickets.
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fine have a civil war. it will just be ratings for american television... so entertain us then.
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[link to www.google.ca]

It was to create chaos to cover the economic collapse of the global trade system in 2008...which has now collapsed Egypt like Greece or Spain and Syria.

The populations in those countries are just as oblivious as to what is going on as the population of the USA.

Gigi basically claims the USA is behind all blood flowing in the streets of Egypt and its crickets.
 Quoting: Hypertiger


Did you read what I wrote? We all understand that there is chaos, and other events going on, though the one essential , unequivocal, and intriguing question is why is this happening in every Arab/Muslim country in the Middle East. Why the chaos, what is truly behind it. It is not money, power, or sex for that matter. It is the two ideological forces in Islamic nations battling each other for the advancement of society or the regression of society. Islamic nation have been stuck in a time capsule for 300 years and one ideology (secular), wants to move to the 21st century with the rest of the modern western civilization and the other (non-secular) wants to revert back to the dark ages where people are oppressed and forced to live under the Caliphate with Islamic Sharia Law being the law of the land.
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fine have a civil war. it will just be ratings for american television... so entertain us then.
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OK can you be more general? lol.beared
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Many have been trying to figure out what is all the fuss and all the uprisings are about in the Middle East. Some say it is a geo-political war for oil and other natural resource, for religion, power and control among other ideas which all are in fact true to some extent. But they are not the main reason behind all the up-risings.

Though many seem to think they understand, they really haven't got a clue. Everything you here in the MSM is base on half-truths and half-lies. MSM does not want anyone to know or understand the dynamics of the Middle East so they paint the whole region with the image of a predominately crazed Islamic lump of countries with citizen all being the same. What the MSM puts out is false and not at all an accurate picture of people in the Middle East; they are not all same. They are not all that image you see in the movies or on TV where your typical Arab/Muslim as a wicked, evil, crazed maniaic who is a terrorist hell bent on blowing up the world and converting everyone to Islam. There are many Christians there who choose to live their.

The Middle East has Muslim, Christian, Jews, Druze, Allwites, Bahis, Hindus, Buhdist, Sufis. Zorotarian (Freddie Mercury, Atheists and many more. For example, Lebanon has six different religions with 18 different sects in it. It is not all Muslims.

I will explain...

Everyone has there own theory or idea based on something they either read in the news, heard about on TV or heard in a conversation between a few se called experts.

Here it is...
1. Arab/Muslim counties and government are controlled by western Powers. Arab/Muslims have always been occupied by foreign power whether it was directly or indirectly, i.e. Saudi Arabia and the Gulf States, Jordan, are thought to be controlled by Western Powers, and to some extent this is true.

2. These Arab/Muslim governments are perceived by most of their citizens as puppets of Western Powers and are illegitimate. Most believe these Monarchies, Dynasties, Emirates, Autocracies, Dictatorships Governments were put their to serve their masters in the West.

Most Citizens of these Arab/Muslim counties want to see their governments out and a true democracy put in place based on justice, freedom and democracy. This is where things become a little confusing and where we have the cause for internal fighting. It is true that many citizens of Arab/Muslim nations want freedom and democracy but how that democracy is interpreted is a different matter.
* Justice ,Freedom and Democracy to a Muslims is not the same as justice, freedom and democracy to a non-Muslim.

Non-Muslims want to live according to their religious beliefs, and cultural traditions without Islamic Law being imposed on them. They want live a peaceful, honorable, dignified life with the opportunity to raise a family and give their children the opportunity to succeed in life along with being members of a society that is evolving or advancing with the rest of the world and humanity and not stuck in a time capsule based on beliefs, laws, and traditions from the Middle Ages or Medieval times.

* Justice ,Freedom and Democracy to a secular Muslim is not the same as justice freedom, and democracy to non-Muslim and a non-secular Muslim.

Like most Non-Muslims, secular Muslims are moderates and have similarly, deep rooted beliefs of Western Nations and Western societies. They do not want to continue living in a regressed anti modernization society based on beliefs, laws and tradition dating back to the Middle Ages or Medieval times. They want to have the freedom to chose how they live. They want the choice of how the worship, live, going to school, dress, work, party, date, marry, and so on. Secular-Muslims want to live according to their religious beliefs, and cultural traditions without Islamic Law being imposed on them. They want live a peaceful, honorable, dignified life with the opportunity to raise a family and give their children the opportunity to succeed in life.

Lastly, You have the non-secular Muslims, Mainly Sunni Muslims and some Shi'a (Shites). These non-secular Muslims who are the majority are Muslim extremist, Militants, Jihadist, Terrorist and you peace loving salafists and wahabis, widely known for all the massacring, beheadings, cannibalism and terrorism in Syria and mainly supported and funded by the Saudi Arabian Monarchy, House of Saud, and the Gulf Oil States (Emirates).

3. While most of these countries have Muslims who believe that Islam is a true democracy, that is not the case, and if true democracy is implemented in the Middle East all Arab/Muslim countries will have elected officials who are elected and supported by Muslim extremists.

The truth is You Can Not Have Democracy in Arab/Muslim Countries because they will elect people like Mursi of the Muslim Brotherhood, or Khaled Meshall of Hamas.



 Quoting: Centurion


Your thoughts are long and short of facts. To understand the Middle East step back and look at the big picture.
The west is fermenting civil war for 3 purposes
1. That's how they take control of a country
2. Gotta demonise the muzzies make them look like terrorists for the eventual purpose to wipe them all out to bring in the NWO this is also being done with Christians the media is demonizing Catholics also for the day when they destroy them all and bring in the NWO
3. Last but not least inflation conflict in the Middle East causes inflation oil goes up, the fed needs inflation to justify tapering off their printing.

So there you have it so simple, to bring in a N W O you need inflation and naughty muzzies and naughty Christians doing naughty things so you gotta excuse to bring in ya NWO and destroy them all.
Just as obamacare is creating fake jobs so the Middle East is creating inflation this is the recipe mr bernanke needs to stop printing and collapse his beloved derivatives.
And the other recipe is muzzies going wild and catholic priests being naughty boys and they got their recipe for destruction religion it's all about the NWO bro
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So tell us what are the naughty christians doing that would make them naughty.
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Re: Explanation why Egypt is in chaos and about to have a civil war!
Great explanation OP!

bump cause i want to see what that asshole/racist BRIEF has to say about this one...
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Brief is cool in my book. He maybe strong with words but he speak from the heart and may agree with my analysis and explanation. My comprehension and understanding of this uprisings in the Middle East is from lifes experiences.

Peace and God Bless You!
 Quoting: Centurion


Kinda says it all right there.

You're known by the company you keep.
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Re: Explanation why Egypt is in chaos and about to have a civil war!
First you said there is a great deal of religious and ideological diversity I. The middle East. Then you said that the middle East is unfit for democracy because they will always elect Islamic extremists who are always anti democrátic.

May we remind you that irán elected mossadegh, who was not an islamic extremist. So there you have religious Muslims electing a man who was a socialist with communist sympathies because they wanted to nationalise and socialise their oil fields. So tell me again how they always elect religious extremists?

Iraq hasnt been voting in any religiouss extremists have they?

Aside from egypts stolen election, which Muslim countries have been electing Muslim extremists?

You sound a bit racist when you claim that "those people" are just too backwards or religious to have democracy. Rather, you sound mils you are using talking points decides for a very racist and not too bright Forum.
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Great post OP. And i must say the first answer is more a complementary one more than a critical one.

I think the main point to both posts is that any intelligent guy can conclude things are absolutly not what they look like on tv. I am amazed (not really) that so many people here on glp is fully aware of MSM and TPTB and NWO and all but still choose to hate based on msm reports. Its a bit contradictory and serves the agendas purpose.
Me, i choose to understand people are easy manipulated, most of the people protesting is manipulated, the soldier shooting unarmed handsup civilians is manipulated and most of all most peole here on glp are being manipulated to serve the masterplan.
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Thank You for the complement I do agree there is quite a bit of manipulation on both sides. With that said, I want to direct you to what I am stating is that in Islam you can't have Justice, Freedom and Democracy because you have two different ways of think and living. You have the secular Muslims who as I stated, want to continue living as Muslims, but with out the extreme fanatical strict interpretation of the Qur'an.

At the same time you have the non-seular Muslims extremist(salafis and wahabis) like Muslim Brotherhood and Saudi Arabia who want to impose Sharia Law on the entire world. These two ideologies of secular Islam and non-secular Islam will always clash because the secularist want freedom and non-secularist have the mind set of live according to strict Islam or die by having your throat slit with a dull knife.

Peace!
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"Thank You for the complement I do agree there is quite a bit of manipulation on both sides."

"quite a bit"

never one-starred before but...
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Re: Explanation why Egypt is in chaos and about to have a civil war!
[link to www.google.ca]

It was to create chaos to cover the economic collapse of the global trade system in 2008...which has now collapsed Egypt like Greece or Spain and Syria.

The populations in those countries are just as oblivious as to what is going on as the population of the USA.

Gigi basically claims the USA is behind all blood flowing in the streets of Egypt and its crickets.
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Did you read what I wrote? We all understand that there is chaos, and other events going on, though the one essential , unequivocal, and intriguing question is why is this happening in every Arab/Muslim country in the Middle East. Why the chaos, what is truly behind it. It is not money, power, or sex for that matter. It is the two ideological forces in Islamic nations battling each other for the advancement of society or the regression of society. Islamic nation have been stuck in a time capsule for 300 years and one ideology (secular), wants to move to the 21st century with the rest of the modern western civilization and the other (non-secular) wants to revert back to the dark ages where people are oppressed and forced to live under the Caliphate with Islamic Sharia Law being the law of the land.
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MB
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live English feed ontv :
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The son of the MB supreme guide Mohammed badee3 has been shot dead yesterday
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They don't want democracy, the want determinism.
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It is very simple, OP:

NWO
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It is very simple, OP:

NWO

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