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Explanation why Egypt is in chaos and about to have a civil war!

 
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It is very simple, OP:

NWO
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It is very simple, OP:

NWO
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Pretty sure thats what they call genocide. Might want to look it up sometime.
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Listen up Egypt. You must stop fighting with another and put into place a puppet master free constitutional republic.

Outside forces will/have stage terror attacks to get ya'll in-fighting with one another. You must resist this.

America does not exist anymore as the shinning beacon of freedom and justice. American government only does the bidding of foreign banks and multinational corporate interests. America is not represented by the people anymore. American government is criminal.

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``first let me tell you that I have been talking with eyewitnesses this morning, who reported that the live ammunition that was used was used by snipers. It may very well be foreign elements who have been shooting at protesters too to stir up violence.``

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Many have been trying to figure out what is all the fuss and all the uprisings are about in the Middle East. Some say it is a geo-political war for oil and other natural resource, for religion, power and control among other ideas which all are in fact true to some extent. But they are not the main reason behind all the up-risings.

Though many seem to think they understand, they really haven't got a clue. Everything you here in the MSM is base on half-truths and half-lies. MSM does not want anyone to know or understand the dynamics of the Middle East so they paint the whole region with the image of a predominately crazed Islamic lump of countries with citizen all being the same. What the MSM puts out is false and not at all an accurate picture of people in the Middle East; they are not all same. They are not all that image you see in the movies or on TV where your typical Arab/Muslim as a wicked, evil, crazed maniaic who is a terrorist hell bent on blowing up the world and converting everyone to Islam. There are many Christians there who choose to live their.

The Middle East has Muslim, Christian, Jews, Druze, Allwites, Bahis, Hindus, Buhdist, Sufis. Zorotarian (Freddie Mercury, Atheists and many more. For example, Lebanon has six different religions with 18 different sects in it. It is not all Muslims.

I will explain...

Everyone has there own theory or idea based on something they either read in the news, heard about on TV or heard in a conversation between a few se called experts.

Here it is...
1. Arab/Muslim counties and government are controlled by western Powers. Arab/Muslims have always been occupied by foreign power whether it was directly or indirectly, i.e. Saudi Arabia and the Gulf States, Jordan, are thought to be controlled by Western Powers, and to some extent this is true.

2. These Arab/Muslim governments are perceived by most of their citizens as puppets of Western Powers and are illegitimate. Most believe these Monarchies, Dynasties, Emirates, Autocracies, Dictatorships Governments were put their to serve their masters in the West.

Most Citizens of these Arab/Muslim counties want to see their governments out and a true democracy put in place based on justice, freedom and democracy. This is where things become a little confusing and where we have the cause for internal fighting. It is true that many citizens of Arab/Muslim nations want freedom and democracy but how that democracy is interpreted is a different matter.
* Justice ,Freedom and Democracy to a Muslims is not the same as justice, freedom and democracy to a non-Muslim.

Non-Muslims want to live according to their religious beliefs, and cultural traditions without Islamic Law being imposed on them. They want live a peaceful, honorable, dignified life with the opportunity to raise a family and give their children the opportunity to succeed in life along with being members of a society that is evolving or advancing with the rest of the world and humanity and not stuck in a time capsule based on beliefs, laws, and traditions from the Middle Ages or Medieval times.

* Justice ,Freedom and Democracy to a secular Muslim is not the same as justice freedom, and democracy to non-Muslim and a non-secular Muslim.

Like most Non-Muslims, secular Muslims are moderates and have similarly, deep rooted beliefs of Western Nations and Western societies. They do not want to continue living in a regressed anti modernization society based on beliefs, laws and tradition dating back to the Middle Ages or Medieval times. They want to have the freedom to chose how they live. They want the choice of how the worship, live, going to school, dress, work, party, date, marry, and so on. Secular-Muslims want to live according to their religious beliefs, and cultural traditions without Islamic Law being imposed on them. They want live a peaceful, honorable, dignified life with the opportunity to raise a family and give their children the opportunity to succeed in life.

Lastly, You have the non-secular Muslims, Mainly Sunni Muslims and some Shi'a (Shites). These non-secular Muslims who are the majority are Muslim extremist, Militants, Jihadist, Terrorist and you peace loving salafists and wahabis, widely known for all the massacring, beheadings, cannibalism and terrorism in Syria and mainly supported and funded by the Saudi Arabian Monarchy, House of Saud, and the Gulf Oil States (Emirates).

3. While most of these countries have Muslims who believe that Islam is a true democracy, that is not the case, and if true democracy is implemented in the Middle East all Arab/Muslim countries will have elected officials who are elected and supported by Muslim extremists.

The truth is You Can Not Have Democracy in Arab/Muslim Countries because they will elect people like Mursi of the Muslim Brotherhood, or Khaled Meshall of Hamas.



 Quoting: Centurion


Your thoughts are long and short of facts. To understand the Middle East step back and look at the big picture.
The west is fermenting civil war for 3 purposes
1. That's how they take control of a country
2. Gotta demonise the muzzies make them look like terrorists for the eventual purpose to wipe them all out to bring in the NWO this is also being done with Christians the media is demonizing Catholics also for the day when they destroy them all and bring in the NWO
3. Last but not least inflation conflict in the Middle East causes inflation oil goes up, the fed needs inflation to justify tapering off their printing.

So there you have it so simple, to bring in a N W O you need inflation and naughty muzzies and naughty Christians doing naughty things so you gotta excuse to bring in ya NWO and destroy them all.
Just as obamacare is creating fake jobs so the Middle East is creating inflation this is the recipe mr bernanke needs to stop printing and collapse his beloved derivatives.
And the other recipe is muzzies going wild and catholic priests being naughty boys and they got their recipe for destruction religion it's all about the NWO bro
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So tell us what are the naughty christians doing that would make them naughty.
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What are the naughty Christians doing? Wellllllll just let me say that if you have a little boy keep them away from catholic priests. The media is having a love affair with this issue the previous 12 months we got inquiry's in every country. So it seems to me that if you watch the news all you hear is negative about religion. Me thinks this is preparing our minds for the elite to destroy all religion. Talk to anyone and they will say they sick off religion
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op is a shill
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I am the last person you can accuse of being a shill my friend. May god Bless You and Your Family. Peace and good health to you. My testimony to human endurance has been proven on and off the battle field and my faith, honor, and integrity can never be compromised and will go with me to the grave.
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My husband agrees with you 100%, Centurion. After reading your first post at the beginning of the thread, he has said similar things many times. He was born Jewish and has Muslim nephews, not much about the Middle East is not known by family or friend connections to him.
He became a Messianic Jew a few years ago, and after a long time of searching for a religious home, we were led to the Coptic church.

God bless you and your threads.
Merry Christmas to all, and to all a good life.
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It is very simple, OP:

NWO
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Nothing in the Middle East is simple.
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Re: Explanation why Egypt is in chaos and about to have a civil war!
Many have been trying to figure out what is all the fuss and all the uprisings are about in the Middle East.
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Don't you know Egypt is in North Africa not the Middle East?
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there is no civil war.
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everyone that kept racking up last election for morsi. everyone that hogtied women in the street to make it appear as they where voters. ever fake wannabe commie muslim has it coming.
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This is IT.
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Many have been trying to figure out what is all the fuss and all the uprisings are about in the Middle East.
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Don't you know Egypt is in North Africa not the Middle East?
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It actually belongs to the modern version of the Near East. Near and Middle East are just political definitions and no geographical. The same goes for the First,Second & Third world countries. They are political and/or geopolitical terms and not geographical ones.
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the entire arab world must respect the power of a supposed pharao.
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You are a paid Russian plant in this forum OP
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Great explanation OP!

bump cause i want to see what that asshole/racist BRIEF has to say about this one...
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Who is this BREIF you talking about?
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The faggot with Yosemite Sam avatar. He's just a troll.
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Brief is a shill.
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It is very simple, OP:

NWO
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USA
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Not even Western countries have TRUE democracy.

It would mean that all the people would lead the country by voting in many many issues without the middle-man.

Voting every 4 years for a slazy politician is a joke, not a democracy.
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Re: Explanation why Egypt is in chaos and about to have a civil war!
Many have been trying to figure out what is all the fuss and all the uprisings are about in the Middle East. Some say it is a geo-political war for oil and other natural resource, for religion, power and control among other ideas which all are in fact true to some extent. But they are not the main reason behind all the up-risings.

Though many seem to think they understand, they really haven't got a clue. Everything you here in the MSM is base on half-truths and half-lies. MSM does not want anyone to know or understand the dynamics of the Middle East so they paint the whole region with the image of a predominately crazed Islamic lump of countries with citizen all being the same. What the MSM puts out is false and not at all an accurate picture of people in the Middle East; they are not all same. They are not all that image you see in the movies or on TV where your typical Arab/Muslim as a wicked, evil, crazed maniaic who is a terrorist hell bent on blowing up the world and converting everyone to Islam. There are many Christians there who choose to live their.

The Middle East has Muslim, Christian, Jews, Druze, Allwites, Bahis, Hindus, Buhdist, Sufis. Zorotarian (Freddie Mercury, Atheists and many more. For example, Lebanon has six different religions with 18 different sects in it. It is not all Muslims.

I will explain...

Everyone has there own theory or idea based on something they either read in the news, heard about on TV or heard in a conversation between a few se called experts.

Here it is...

1. Arab/Muslim counties and government are controlled by western Powers. Arab/Muslims have always been occupied by foreign power whether it was directly or indirectly, i.e. Saudi Arabia and the Gulf States, Jordan, are thought to be controlled by Western Powers, and to some extent this is true.

2. These Arab/Muslim governments are perceived by most of their citizens as puppets of Western Powers and are illegitimate. Most believe these Monarchies, Dynasties, Emirates, Autocracies, Dictatorships Governments were put their to serve their masters in the West.

Most Citizens of these Arab/Muslim counties want to see their governments out and a true democracy put in place based on justice, freedom and democracy. This is where things become a little confusing and where we have the cause for internal fighting. It is true that many citizens of Arab/Muslim nations want freedom and democracy but how that democracy is interpreted is a different matter.
* Justice ,Freedom and Democracy to a Muslims is not the same as justice, freedom and democracy to a non-Muslim.

Non-Muslims want to live according to their religious beliefs, and cultural traditions without Islamic Law being imposed on them. They want live a peaceful, honorable, dignified life with the opportunity to raise a family and give their children the opportunity to succeed in life along with being members of a society that is evolving or advancing with the rest of the world and humanity and not stuck in a time capsule based on beliefs, laws, and traditions from the Middle Ages or Medieval times.

* Justice ,Freedom and Democracy to a secular Muslim is not the same as justice freedom, and democracy to non-Muslim and a non-secular Muslim.

Like most Non-Muslims, secular Muslims are moderates and have similarly, deep rooted beliefs of Western Nations and Western societies. They do not want to continue living in a regressed anti modernization society based on beliefs, laws and tradition dating back to the Middle Ages or Medieval times. They want to have the freedom to chose how they live. They want the choice of how the worship, live, going to school, dress, work, party, date, marry, and so on. Secular-Muslims want to live according to their religious beliefs, and cultural traditions without Islamic Law being imposed on them. They want live a peaceful, honorable, dignified life with the opportunity to raise a family and give their children the opportunity to succeed in life.

Lastly, You have the non-secular Muslims, Mainly Sunni Muslims and some Shi'a (Shites). These non-secular Muslims who are the majority are Muslim extremist, Militants, Jihadist, Terrorist and you peace loving salafists and wahabis, widely known for all the massacring, beheadings, cannibalism and terrorism in Syria and mainly supported and funded by the Saudi Arabian Monarchy, House of Saud, and the Gulf Oil States (Emirates).

3. While most of these countries have Muslims who believe that Islam is a true democracy, that is not the case, and if true democracy is implemented in the Middle East all Arab/Muslim countries will have elected officials who are elected and supported by Muslim extremists.

The truth is You Can Not Have Democracy in Arab/Muslim Countries because they will elect people like Mursi of the Muslim Brotherhood, or Khaled Meshall of Hamas.
 Quoting: Centurion




“I will stir up Egyptian against Egyptian—
brother will fight against brother,
neighbor against neighbor,
city against city,
kingdom against kingdom. Isaiah 19:2
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ This
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They got Obama's boy

[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]

So tell who's side the military is on, then who's the MB's is....... Who got funds????
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i will explain in 1 image:
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Re: Explanation why Egypt is in chaos and about to have a civil war!
Why Egypt should have a Civil War isn't complicated.

What is complicated and annoying is why America is actively supporting the side we shouldn't.

I prefer leaving the whole thing alone. But that we're backing the Brotherhood defies belief, especially given all the crap people have been spoonfed the last few years.

It's a commentary on how unaware and disengaged the American electorate is that our government can act with complete impunity and insanity, and not even have anything but the mildest of complaint. At least in the old days, they had to construct a possibly valid pretense before they did what they wanted.
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Right now in Egypt is what will happen here, again. Why are they not getting any support to stop the MB? we have been taken over, along with all the other countries. Why does this country support the MB? why was is that Egyptian military found Obama/Osama's right hand man? The proof of whats around us is right in front of our faces, we need to clean house they the Egyptian people now.... any longer of a wait and it will be worse they what it is now....... this country is an illusion of freedom when it is quite the opposite.
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do you get it now people? police and army in Egypt not fighting and killing Egyptians, they are fighting terrorists and stopping them from burning the whole country down, can you see the link now between Muslim brotherhood, Al Qaeda and Hamas??

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op is a shill
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Really, just shut it. The OP has put out a very good synopsis of what is happening in the ME. You may agree or disagree with his conclusions but instead of attacking the messenger address the topic and enlighten us with your own thoughts...

I believe you are incapable of doing so, prove me wrong.

Last Edited by davvi on 08/17/2013 10:32 AM
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Re: Explanation why Egypt is in chaos and about to have a civil war!
Many have been trying to figure out what is all the fuss and all the uprisings are about in the Middle East.
 Quoting: Centurion


Don't you know Egypt is in North Africa not the Middle East?
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Oh for cripes sake...in the US Middle East is a catch all phrase meaning Muslim countries...it has nothing to do with geography...
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Re: Explanation why Egypt is in chaos and about to have a civil war!
Why Egypt should have a Civil War isn't complicated.

What is complicated and annoying is why America is actively supporting the side we shouldn't.

I prefer leaving the whole thing alone. But that we're backing the Brotherhood defies belief, especially given all the crap people have been spoonfed the last few years.

It's a commentary on how unaware and disengaged the American electorate is that our government can act with complete impunity and insanity, and not even have anything but the mildest of complaint. At least in the old days, they had to construct a possibly valid pretense before they did what they wanted.
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^^this^^
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In Jewish tradition, the fetus is not considered viable until after it graduates from medical school.

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Re: Explanation why Egypt is in chaos and about to have a civil war!
Many have been trying to figure out what is all the fuss and all the uprisings are about in the Middle East.
 Quoting: Centurion


Don't you know Egypt is in North Africa not the Middle East?
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This
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this is why

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