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Explanation why Egypt is in chaos and about to have a civil war!

 
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everyone that kept racking up last election for morsi. everyone that hogtied women in the street to make it appear as they where voters. ever fake wannabe commie muslim has it coming.
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This is IT.
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Re: Explanation why Egypt is in chaos and about to have a civil war!
Many have been trying to figure out what is all the fuss and all the uprisings are about in the Middle East.
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Don't you know Egypt is in North Africa not the Middle East?
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It actually belongs to the modern version of the Near East. Near and Middle East are just political definitions and no geographical. The same goes for the First,Second & Third world countries. They are political and/or geopolitical terms and not geographical ones.
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Re: Explanation why Egypt is in chaos and about to have a civil war!
the entire arab world must respect the power of a supposed pharao.
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You are a paid Russian plant in this forum OP
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It is very simple, OP:

NWO
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Re: Explanation why Egypt is in chaos and about to have a civil war!
Not even Western countries have TRUE democracy.

It would mean that all the people would lead the country by voting in many many issues without the middle-man.

Voting every 4 years for a slazy politician is a joke, not a democracy.
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Re: Explanation why Egypt is in chaos and about to have a civil war!
Many have been trying to figure out what is all the fuss and all the uprisings are about in the Middle East. Some say it is a geo-political war for oil and other natural resource, for religion, power and control among other ideas which all are in fact true to some extent. But they are not the main reason behind all the up-risings.

Though many seem to think they understand, they really haven't got a clue. Everything you here in the MSM is base on half-truths and half-lies. MSM does not want anyone to know or understand the dynamics of the Middle East so they paint the whole region with the image of a predominately crazed Islamic lump of countries with citizen all being the same. What the MSM puts out is false and not at all an accurate picture of people in the Middle East; they are not all same. They are not all that image you see in the movies or on TV where your typical Arab/Muslim as a wicked, evil, crazed maniaic who is a terrorist hell bent on blowing up the world and converting everyone to Islam. There are many Christians there who choose to live their.

The Middle East has Muslim, Christian, Jews, Druze, Allwites, Bahis, Hindus, Buhdist, Sufis. Zorotarian (Freddie Mercury, Atheists and many more. For example, Lebanon has six different religions with 18 different sects in it. It is not all Muslims.

I will explain...

Everyone has there own theory or idea based on something they either read in the news, heard about on TV or heard in a conversation between a few se called experts.

Here it is...

1. Arab/Muslim counties and government are controlled by western Powers. Arab/Muslims have always been occupied by foreign power whether it was directly or indirectly, i.e. Saudi Arabia and the Gulf States, Jordan, are thought to be controlled by Western Powers, and to some extent this is true.

2. These Arab/Muslim governments are perceived by most of their citizens as puppets of Western Powers and are illegitimate. Most believe these Monarchies, Dynasties, Emirates, Autocracies, Dictatorships Governments were put their to serve their masters in the West.

Most Citizens of these Arab/Muslim counties want to see their governments out and a true democracy put in place based on justice, freedom and democracy. This is where things become a little confusing and where we have the cause for internal fighting. It is true that many citizens of Arab/Muslim nations want freedom and democracy but how that democracy is interpreted is a different matter.
* Justice ,Freedom and Democracy to a Muslims is not the same as justice, freedom and democracy to a non-Muslim.

Non-Muslims want to live according to their religious beliefs, and cultural traditions without Islamic Law being imposed on them. They want live a peaceful, honorable, dignified life with the opportunity to raise a family and give their children the opportunity to succeed in life along with being members of a society that is evolving or advancing with the rest of the world and humanity and not stuck in a time capsule based on beliefs, laws, and traditions from the Middle Ages or Medieval times.

* Justice ,Freedom and Democracy to a secular Muslim is not the same as justice freedom, and democracy to non-Muslim and a non-secular Muslim.

Like most Non-Muslims, secular Muslims are moderates and have similarly, deep rooted beliefs of Western Nations and Western societies. They do not want to continue living in a regressed anti modernization society based on beliefs, laws and tradition dating back to the Middle Ages or Medieval times. They want to have the freedom to chose how they live. They want the choice of how the worship, live, going to school, dress, work, party, date, marry, and so on. Secular-Muslims want to live according to their religious beliefs, and cultural traditions without Islamic Law being imposed on them. They want live a peaceful, honorable, dignified life with the opportunity to raise a family and give their children the opportunity to succeed in life.

Lastly, You have the non-secular Muslims, Mainly Sunni Muslims and some Shi'a (Shites). These non-secular Muslims who are the majority are Muslim extremist, Militants, Jihadist, Terrorist and you peace loving salafists and wahabis, widely known for all the massacring, beheadings, cannibalism and terrorism in Syria and mainly supported and funded by the Saudi Arabian Monarchy, House of Saud, and the Gulf Oil States (Emirates).

3. While most of these countries have Muslims who believe that Islam is a true democracy, that is not the case, and if true democracy is implemented in the Middle East all Arab/Muslim countries will have elected officials who are elected and supported by Muslim extremists.

The truth is You Can Not Have Democracy in Arab/Muslim Countries because they will elect people like Mursi of the Muslim Brotherhood, or Khaled Meshall of Hamas.
 Quoting: Centurion




“I will stir up Egyptian against Egyptian—
brother will fight against brother,
neighbor against neighbor,
city against city,
kingdom against kingdom. Isaiah 19:2
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Re: Explanation why Egypt is in chaos and about to have a civil war!
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ This
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Re: Explanation why Egypt is in chaos and about to have a civil war!
They got Obama's boy

[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]

So tell who's side the military is on, then who's the MB's is....... Who got funds????
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Re: Explanation why Egypt is in chaos and about to have a civil war!
i will explain in 1 image:
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Re: Explanation why Egypt is in chaos and about to have a civil war!
Why Egypt should have a Civil War isn't complicated.

What is complicated and annoying is why America is actively supporting the side we shouldn't.

I prefer leaving the whole thing alone. But that we're backing the Brotherhood defies belief, especially given all the crap people have been spoonfed the last few years.

It's a commentary on how unaware and disengaged the American electorate is that our government can act with complete impunity and insanity, and not even have anything but the mildest of complaint. At least in the old days, they had to construct a possibly valid pretense before they did what they wanted.
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Re: Explanation why Egypt is in chaos and about to have a civil war!
Right now in Egypt is what will happen here, again. Why are they not getting any support to stop the MB? we have been taken over, along with all the other countries. Why does this country support the MB? why was is that Egyptian military found Obama/Osama's right hand man? The proof of whats around us is right in front of our faces, we need to clean house they the Egyptian people now.... any longer of a wait and it will be worse they what it is now....... this country is an illusion of freedom when it is quite the opposite.
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do you get it now people? police and army in Egypt not fighting and killing Egyptians, they are fighting terrorists and stopping them from burning the whole country down, can you see the link now between Muslim brotherhood, Al Qaeda and Hamas??

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Re: Explanation why Egypt is in chaos and about to have a civil war!
op is a shill
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Really, just shut it. The OP has put out a very good synopsis of what is happening in the ME. You may agree or disagree with his conclusions but instead of attacking the messenger address the topic and enlighten us with your own thoughts...

I believe you are incapable of doing so, prove me wrong.

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Re: Explanation why Egypt is in chaos and about to have a civil war!
Many have been trying to figure out what is all the fuss and all the uprisings are about in the Middle East.
 Quoting: Centurion


Don't you know Egypt is in North Africa not the Middle East?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39294847


Oh for cripes sake...in the US Middle East is a catch all phrase meaning Muslim countries...it has nothing to do with geography...
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Re: Explanation why Egypt is in chaos and about to have a civil war!
Why Egypt should have a Civil War isn't complicated.

What is complicated and annoying is why America is actively supporting the side we shouldn't.

I prefer leaving the whole thing alone. But that we're backing the Brotherhood defies belief, especially given all the crap people have been spoonfed the last few years.

It's a commentary on how unaware and disengaged the American electorate is that our government can act with complete impunity and insanity, and not even have anything but the mildest of complaint. At least in the old days, they had to construct a possibly valid pretense before they did what they wanted.
 Quoting: Double O Zero


^^this^^
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Re: Explanation why Egypt is in chaos and about to have a civil war!
Many have been trying to figure out what is all the fuss and all the uprisings are about in the Middle East.
 Quoting: Centurion


Don't you know Egypt is in North Africa not the Middle East?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39294847


This
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Re: Explanation why Egypt is in chaos and about to have a civil war!
this is why
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Re: Explanation why Egypt is in chaos and about to have a civil war!
It is simpler than that.

One word.

ISLAM!

jihad jihad2
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Re: Explanation why Egypt is in chaos and about to have a civil war!
non-secular Muslims who are the majority are Muslim extremist, Militants, Jihadist, Terrorist and you peace loving salafists and wahabis, widely known for all the massacring, beheadings, cannibalism and terrorism in Syria and mainly supported and funded by the Saudi Arabian Monarchy, House of Saud, and the Gulf Oil States (Emirates).

Ask your self why Saudi Arabia support them? Here is the answer:

THE MONARCH OF SAUDI ARABIA IS A CRYPTO JEW !!! masquerading as a Muslim.

Being a Jew he uses the jewish philosophy of divide and conquer. Hence the support of extremism.
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Re: Explanation why Egypt is in chaos and about to have a civil war!
excellent analysis OP

5* from me

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First you said there is a great deal of religious and ideological diversity I. The middle East. Then you said that the middle East is unfit for democracy because they will always elect Islamic extremists who are always anti democrátic.

May we remind you that irán elected mossadegh, who was not an islamic extremist. So there you have religious Muslims electing a man who was a socialist with communist sympathies because they wanted to nationalise and socialise their oil fields. So tell me again how they always elect religious extremists?

Iraq hasnt been voting in any religiouss extremists have they?

Aside from egypts stolen election, which Muslim countries have been electing Muslim extremists?

You sound a bit racist when you claim that "those people" are just too backwards or religious to have democracy. Rather, you sound mils you are using talking points decides for a very racist and not too bright Forum.
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Yes please remind me! Iran is an Islamic republic and though I disagree with their extremism I can say they are secular and much more modernized than the Arab/Muslim world. I would tell you that Iran is not Arab , but Persian and they have advanced as a society much more that Saudi Arabia and it's little proxy states. Yes they are a Muslim nation and they did elect leaders who are Muslims but they are very secular. Do your research on Iran and you will understand what I am saying
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Re: Explanation why Egypt is in chaos and about to have a civil war!
excellent analysis OP

5* from me

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Al Qaeda is the military arm of The Muslim Brotherhood.

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jihad
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Re: Explanation why Egypt is in chaos and about to have a civil war!
This is why you can never ever mix Islam with Politic.

"No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon." - Matthew 6:24
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Re: Explanation why Egypt is in chaos and about to have a civil war!
"Hubert Curve"

This curve was proposed in the mid 1950's.

The example shown here was up for public examination (I believe) in the late 1960's or early 1970's?

Just look at the years between 2000 and 2010 and remember this was proposed back in mid 1950, think about what has happened in the United States since the year 2000? (9-11, Gulf War II, 2007 economic recession)

The only thing not considered in this graph was the rise of China as an economic powerhouse.

Despite what Malignants would want you to believe, I believe the world is following this curve pretty closely.

[link to imageshack.us]

[link to imageshack.us]

So far, this research done 30 to 50 years ago, is fairly well along, the tracking of this graph seems well on target, and leaves only small wiggle room?

A 50% decline is forecast...DOOM indeed.

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Culling 50%...
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Re: Explanation why Egypt is in chaos and about to have a civil war!
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It is very simple, OP:

NWO
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20884807


It is true that we have secret societies who want to control markets, natural resources and people but it is not the same everywhere. I am talking mainly about the Arab/Muslim nation and the uprisings like in Egypt and Syria.

My point is other countries have had rioting and civil unrest like Spain, France, Greece, Cyprus among others but it was purely for economic and financial reasons.

now these uprising in the Arab/Muslim world are quite different. They are not just economically inspired. They have a driving force called religious beliefs. They secular and non-secular. Turn your attention to Turkey. People rose up against the Government not because of a small park they wanted to bulldoze. it was because they were starting to head to a more non-secular Islamist government.

Syria, you have a Dictator Bashar Al- Assad who is very much secular and now his country is ravaged by FSA, Al Nusra Front, Islamic State of Iraq-Levant and other Al Qaida affiliates. An terrirory the gain the immediately executed all Shite, Alawites and Christian and implemented Sharia law. The rape women and massacred entire villages. that is their "Peace loving" Islam. These the the Muslim Extremist Salfi and Wahabi elements who are behind much of what is happening. the battle there has nothing to do with freedom of the Syrian People as the so called "rebels" want everyone to believe. they have proven their cause with all the massacring and beheading, rape, cannibalism, terrorism an so on. they are alf funded by Extremist Sunni government like Saudi Arabia, Mursi of Egypt (MuslimBrotherhood) Qatar, Chechnya, and other extremist as well.

I think you can take it from here and come to a conclusion that Extremist non secular Muslim element funded by terrorist state are trying to positionthem thelve to install a Caliphate government with the Sharia Islamis Law as their universal law. peace1
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Re: Explanation why Egypt is in chaos and about to have a civil war!
Its quite simple.....United States/Israel installs puppet dictatorship and the Egyptians dont like it. The Egyptians kick the puppet out so the US/Israel send in "rebels" (paid mercenaries) to raise hell until they can put in another puppet. Its been going on since the 1970's.
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^ THIS ^





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