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My experiences with "social workers" were with 2 that worked for the 2 hospitals my elderly relative was in, after a stroke. My impression is that their job is to maximize medicare payments per patient per day to the facility that employs them. In my relative's case this included 30, yes 30 different drugs a day, besides other murderous "care".
"Caseworkers" both seemed to have great expertise in dividing family members, lavishing flattering attention on the weak and gullible ones and "disapproving" of any who might be on to their game. One of the facilities is a national chain that has hair raising complaints about them all over the internet. They hire people that no one else will and get rid of any who won't close ranks and defend one another against their enemies : the patients and family members who care about a patient.
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If the social worker knocks step outside and close the door behind you, NEVER let them in. Once they are in even once they can write a report for the courts and you’re stuck with them forever. If they cannot get in the house they cannot report on what is in the house and the court cannot make a recommendation that sticks.
 Quoting: Chrit


if it's the bastards from child welfare or whatever the F they're calling themselves today,you HAVE TO ADMIT THEM.

call the cops to get VERIFICATION from THEM and while you're waiting for them to arrive whatever
you get a friendly neighbor or friend to WITNESS the conversational exchange and ACTIVITIES.

in my former zipcode THEY WOULD come a knockin AFTER midnite.

and YES,TRUTH IS STRANGER THEN FICTION......after midnite-
amd the police WOULD COME due to the time that people are announcing they're here.....


the POWER THESE PsOS HAVE to invade your home and the POWER THEY HAVE TO REMOVE YOUR KIDS WITHOUT A HEARING OR TRIAL MUST END.

WE WENT THROUGH months of unadulterated BS ALL DUE TO 1 calling and REPORTING false statements.
can you CONFRONT the 1 ?
of course not,they remain a secret.


finally the bastrds had TO ADMIT the allegations WERE FALSE and unfounded
but not before myself,my family and the girl across the hall(another one getting visits etc at the SAME TIME) WENT THROUGH HELL.
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My experiences with "social workers" were with 2 that worked for the 2 hospitals my elderly relative was in, after a stroke. My impression is that their job is to maximize medicare payments per patient per day to the facility that employs them. In my relative's case this included 30, yes 30 different drugs a day, besides other murderous "care".
"Caseworkers" both seemed to have great expertise in dividing family members, lavishing flattering attention on the weak and gullible ones and "disapproving" of any who might be on to their game. One of the facilities is a national chain that has hair raising complaints about them all over the internet. They hire people that no one else will and get rid of any who won't close ranks and defend one another against their enemies : the patients and family members who care about a patient.
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clappa

Nailed it!!!
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When I got home my Grandmother was your typical senior citizen with a 15 med " dope bag" I threw those big pharma drugs in the garbage ? Guess what? She got better........
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She obviously wasn't better if her blood pressure was 200/100.
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Tards will always tard! It's their nature! iamwith
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GT I worked as a caregiver two years ago for a man who had the SAME THING happen, so he hired me privately to care for his wife. I ran several old folks homes. Please believe me when I say the social worker will call your rugs a fall hazard, tell you to install thousands of dollars worth of equipment in your home and tell you your loved one needs assisted living. A medicaid patient in my state brings in over 5k per month to the home, plus food assistance for the home. It's big money, it's pushy, it's shady as FUCK and they WILL try to force her into a home. Best you can do is try to find a private hire caregiver on craigslist. Good luck to you an your family hun I know what you're going through.
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GT I worked as a caregiver two years ago for a man who had the SAME THING happen, so he hired me privately to care for his wife. I ran several old folks homes. Please believe me when I say the social worker will call your rugs a fall hazard, tell you to install thousands of dollars worth of equipment in your home and tell you your loved one needs assisted living. A medicaid patient in my state brings in over 5k per month to the home, plus food assistance for the home. It's big money, it's pushy, it's shady as FUCK and they WILL try to force her into a home. Best you can do is try to find a private hire caregiver on craigslist. Good luck to you an your family hun I know what you're going through.
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Thanks for update, I figured the same!

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If the social worker knocks step outside and close the door behind you, NEVER let them in. Once they are in even once they can write a report for the courts and you’re stuck with them forever. If they cannot get in the house they cannot report on what is in the house and the court cannot make a recommendation that sticks.
 Quoting: Chrit


if it's the bastards from child welfare or whatever the F they're calling themselves today,you HAVE TO ADMIT THEM.

call the cops to get VERIFICATION from THEM and while you're waiting for them to arrive whatever
you get a friendly neighbor or friend to WITNESS the conversational exchange and ACTIVITIES.

in my former zipcode THEY WOULD come a knockin AFTER midnite.

and YES,TRUTH IS STRANGER THEN FICTION......after midnite-
amd the police WOULD COME due to the time that people are announcing they're here.....


the POWER THESE PsOS HAVE to invade your home and the POWER THEY HAVE TO REMOVE YOUR KIDS WITHOUT A HEARING OR TRIAL MUST END.

WE WENT THROUGH months of unadulterated BS ALL DUE TO 1 calling and REPORTING false statements.
can you CONFRONT the 1 ?
of course not,they remain a secret.


finally the bastrds had TO ADMIT the allegations WERE FALSE and unfounded
but not before myself,my family and the girl across the hall(another one getting visits etc at the SAME TIME) WENT THROUGH HELL.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45114646


My step mom called on me for my first child, they never got in the door. I’m kind of a scary guy though, I stopped answering the door at a point. I knew how close it was over lies!
I'm only human, it's my biggest flaw.

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If the social worker knocks step outside and close the door behind you, NEVER let them in. Once they are in even once they can write a report for the courts and you’re stuck with them forever. If they cannot get in the house they cannot report on what is in the house and the court cannot make a recommendation that sticks.
 Quoting: Chrit


if it's the bastards from child welfare or whatever the F they're calling themselves today,you HAVE TO ADMIT THEM.

call the cops to get VERIFICATION from THEM and while you're waiting for them to arrive whatever
you get a friendly neighbor or friend to WITNESS the conversational exchange and ACTIVITIES.

in my former zipcode THEY WOULD come a knockin AFTER midnite.

and YES,TRUTH IS STRANGER THEN FICTION......after midnite-
amd the police WOULD COME due to the time that people are announcing they're here.....


the POWER THESE PsOS HAVE to invade your home and the POWER THEY HAVE TO REMOVE YOUR KIDS WITHOUT A HEARING OR TRIAL MUST END.

WE WENT THROUGH months of unadulterated BS ALL DUE TO 1 calling and REPORTING false statements.
can you CONFRONT the 1 ?
of course not,they remain a secret.


finally the bastrds had TO ADMIT the allegations WERE FALSE and unfounded
but not before myself,my family and the girl across the hall(another one getting visits etc at the SAME TIME) WENT THROUGH HELL.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45114646


My step mom called on me for my first child, they never got in the door. I’m kind of a scary guy though, I stopped answering the door at a point. I knew how close it was over lies!
 Quoting: Chrit


clappa
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My experiences with "social workers" were with 2 that worked for the 2 hospitals my elderly relative was in, after a stroke. My impression is that their job is to maximize medicare payments per patient per day to the facility that employs them. In my relative's case this included 30, yes 30 different drugs a day, besides other murderous "care".
"Caseworkers" both seemed to have great expertise in dividing family members, lavishing flattering attention on the weak and gullible ones and "disapproving" of any who might be on to their game. One of the facilities is a national chain that has hair raising complaints about them all over the internet. They hire people that no one else will and get rid of any who won't close ranks and defend one another against their enemies : the patients and family members who care about a patient.
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clappa

Nailed it!!!
 Quoting: GT500


Thank you! I wish I could tell you the whole story as I think you'd appreciate the level of horror. I know I'll never be the same. On the other hand, I'm grateful I didn't have to rely on my own investigative non-skills, but evidence just continually fell in my lap, proving things like that the medical charts were fiction. Emails proved a doctor had said things she later tried to deny. and on and on. I can only think that enough patients' relatives are in silent or unconscious collusion with the medical murderers that they don't raise a peep ,allowing this stuff to go on.
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Now is your chance to tell the story?

And please do! Fear is the power they have over the masses?

Do not fear!
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Listen closely my dear friends........

Gods power is manifested in " disobedience " to evil......
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Now is your chance to tell the story?

And please do! Fear is the power they have over the masses?

Do not fear!
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I have to get to bed- getting up early and going away for the day tomorrow.
This might be one very important thing to know about: Medicare only pays for a certain number of days in each category of care, like, say, the ICU. If the hospital wants to continue to be reimbursed, they have to find some medical excuse to move patient to different dept. My relative immediately aspirated from her incorrectly placed feeding tube, the minute she was moved to the respiratory ward, and medical-power-of-attorney relative, who has extreme mental-health issues, had the choice of her dying right then or having a hole cut in her neck and a ventilator inserted. We were told by the caseworker that she would be better off in a "rehabilitation" facility that "specializes in weaning patients from ventilators". We later found out that this place, which had a long, quite critical expose' in the New York Times the week she was moved there, only took her on the basis that she was supposedly a vegetable with no hope of recovery , which wasn't true. But once they were dumping 30 drugs a day into her, at least appeared truer. Once she got MRSA, medicare quit re-imbursing facility. WE learned from that month's Consumer Reports that this is Medicare policy, because facilities have every opportunity to prevent MRSA and are without excuse for letting patients contract it. From that time on, there seemed to be an all-out push to get her dead. "Somehow" her vent would pop out several times a night, etc. I really probably should have called the police at this point, I now think.
I would now never trust the standard of care and it's deliverers and question whether there isn't actual sadism involved.
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Thanks CC hf
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I forgot, if your loved one does happen to end up in a facility, look up your local long term care ombudsman, get their card, and place that card on their nightstand. It's an unspoken sign that you know the ropes, know who to complain to and that they have family that care and are involved. These facilities are licensed by your states' mental health trust and they will get all kinds of shut down if complaints are made. If you want to get major hardcore, call your mental health trust authority and express an interest in possibly running an assisted living home and ask if they have a seminar. Go to it. Mine was three days but I learned literally everything about elder and mentally disabled care, law and procedure. These places make big cash and are scared shitless of losing their license over violations. Your relative will get the best care once the licensee/owner/head honcho knows you know exactly who to bark to.
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GT- I am so proud that you are taking care of your Grandma. I wish could have continued to care for mine...I hated her being put in a home..but life had me in another State..
I used to take care of an elderly stroke patient, she lived at her home with her elderly daughter. The Dr. told her she would never walk or use her arm and hand again. I was 17yrs old then. I told her that I didn't believe the Dr's because she had so much feeling in her arm, hand and leg. We did physical therapy daily and we made all her meals from her garden and canned what we could. she taught me to make her kind of homemade bread. She was friends with a dairy farmer so we had fresh REAL milk and cream to make homemade butter..after 6 months of caring for her, she could walk without her walker from the dinning room to the bathroom (it was a long walk for her in her house). She was using her hand and arm almost normal. I had to quit because the law changed and I would have had to become licensed and I could not afford that at the time. She got a new caregiver and within a month was back to being unable to walk or use her arm. 3 months later she passed away. The new caregiver refused to do any therapy and all the stuff I did o help her recover.

I did some private home care years later, and all the freaking rules and lack of care (so many things you could not do to help) drove me crazy. Heaven forbid a person actually care about making these people better!

I know have my own personal battles going on with the Medical World, and let me tell you- they do not want people better!

My Grammy had Alzheimer's and Dementia and I truly believe if I had not had to move away and could have taken care of her, she never would have been put in a facility to die! She did not want that. The only bright spot was that I was there with her on her last days and she spoke to me ( she hadn't spoken in about 2yrs) and we held each others hands.

Right now you are my HERO!
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GT- I am so proud that you are taking care of your Grandma. I wish could have continued to care for mine...I hated her being put in a home..but life had me in another State..
I used to take care of an elderly stroke patient, she lived at her home with her elderly daughter. The Dr. told her she would never walk or use her arm and hand again. I was 17yrs old then. I told her that I didn't believe the Dr's because she had so much feeling in her arm, hand and leg. We did physical therapy daily and we made all her meals from her garden and canned what we could. she taught me to make her kind of homemade bread. She was friends with a dairy farmer so we had fresh REAL milk and cream to make homemade butter..after 6 months of caring for her, she could walk without her walker from the dinning room to the bathroom (it was a long walk for her in her house). She was using her hand and arm almost normal. I had to quit because the law changed and I would have had to become licensed and I could not afford that at the time. She got a new caregiver and within a month was back to being unable to walk or use her arm. 3 months later she passed away. The new caregiver refused to do any therapy and all the stuff I did o help her recover.

I did some private home care years later, and all the freaking rules and lack of care (so many things you could not do to help) drove me crazy. Heaven forbid a person actually care about making these people better!

I know have my own personal battles going on with the Medical World, and let me tell you- they do not want people better!

My Grammy had Alzheimer's and Dementia and I truly believe if I had not had to move away and could have taken care of her, she never would have been put in a facility to die! She did not want that. The only bright spot was that I was there with her on her last days and she spoke to me ( she hadn't spoken in about 2yrs) and we held each others hands.

Right now you are my HERO!
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Thank you for an amazing story! I agree 100% with everything you said!
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I forgot, if your loved one does happen to end up in a facility, look up your local long term care ombudsman, get their card, and place that card on their nightstand. It's an unspoken sign that you know the ropes, know who to complain to and that they have family that care and are involved. These facilities are licensed by your states' mental health trust and they will get all kinds of shut down if complaints are made. If you want to get major hardcore, call your mental health trust authority and express an interest in possibly running an assisted living home and ask if they have a seminar. Go to it. Mine was three days but I learned literally everything about elder and mentally disabled care, law and procedure. These places make big cash and are scared shitless of losing their license over violations. Your relative will get the best care once the licensee/owner/head honcho knows you know exactly who to bark to.
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Thanks for information! She will be with us to the end!
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I should rename this thread " the game of medical care"

Thanks to all " even tards" who have posted , so glad I threw this up and thank you Mods for pinning!
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Good thread.
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Good thread.
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I agree! bump
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people who believe in medicines are stupid. I got past the medication myth in my 20s when I started doing research, physical exercises and fasting to take control of my own health. I speak this with absolute certainty: all remedies/ medicines / drugs are nothing more than poisons and their perceived effects of "cure" are nothing more than self-suggestion.

The only reason why you believe that you NEED to take medicine X or Y is because you're probably already addicted to the sedative effect it has on you plus you buy into the fear-based propaganda. Fear is such a powerful force that it can make the human psyche believe in anything. Drugs have absolutely nothing to do with curing or getting better. Taking meds is just another escape mechanism so that you won't have to deal with the root cause of the problem (procrastination & cowardice). People who live on drugs actually grow sicker and sicker as time goes by.
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people who believe in medicines are stupid. I got past the medication myth in my 20s when I started doing research, physical exercises and fasting to take control of my own health. I speak this with absolute certainty: all remedies/ medicines / drugs are nothing more than poisons and their perceived effects of "cure" are nothing more than self-suggestion.

The only reason why you believe that you NEED to take medicine X or Y is because you're probably already addicted to the sedative effect it has on you plus you buy into the fear-based propaganda. Fear is such a powerful force that it can make the human psyche believe in anything. Drugs have absolutely nothing to do with curing or getting better. Taking meds is just another escape mechanism so that you won't have to deal with the root cause of the problem (procrastination & cowardice). People who live on drugs actually grow sicker and sicker as time goes by.
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