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COMET IMPACTS - SUMMARY OF WERE WE ARE AT!
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Patriot
User ID: 31545
5/7/2006 9:34 AM
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Remember the Deep Impact comet Temple 1 last year.
This was done to see if we could change the trajectory of an incoming asteriod. It failed and in retrospect created a worst situation via an immense cloud of debris which we may have to contend with in the future.
NASA FAILED AND ALSO LIED ON THAT ONE.
Now we have an incoming swarm of comet fragments which originated from a 18 mile Diameter Object. It supposedly broken up into 20, then 40 now 60 pieces. The chances that some of these objects may a 1/2 mile or so in diameter is very high.
However NASA IS AGAIN LYING TO US SAYING THEY ARE THE SIZE OF A VW A REFRIGERATOR.
Looking at the projectiles of the numerous pieces from JPL and NASA data, one piece has a .0001AU distance from Earth which equates to about 1500 miles or less. This particular piece WILL IMPACT due to the gravitation attraction of the earth via the ROUSE equation which is well known and quoted by astronomers.
BUT NASA IS AGAIN LYING TO US WHEN THEY ISSUE A STATEMENT THAT THERE IS NO IMPACT. SCIENCE AND LOGIC DEFEAT THIS.
And this particular piece 3P which is huge as it can be seen by telescope. It is much bigger than the space shuttle which 'could not' be seen at the same location. This HUGE piece may also brak up again given us two impact warnings.
BUT NASA SAYS NO PROBLEM - DON'T WORRY!
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To digress - remember when our Lying George Bush was quoted as saying "We all be dead shortly anyway". Did he know this was gonna to happen?
In Summation
A Proven Lying President George Bush
A Proven Lying NASA
That is a proper analyis!
YET --- The debunkers say this is all crap - based on what????
What am I doing---
Moving away from the Atlantic coastline and getting out of Florida -- as these are the primary impact areas now being mentioned by the astronomers.
Suggest you and your families do the same thing. |
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Anonymous Coward
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5/7/2006 9:34 AM | | Re: COMET IMPACTS - SUMMARY OF WERE WE ARE AT! | Quote |
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Anonymous Coward
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5/7/2006 9:58 AM | | Re: COMET IMPACTS - SUMMARY OF WERE WE ARE AT! | Quote |
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Halcyon Dayz
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5/7/2006 10:40 AM
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Patriot
User ID: 31545 5/7/2006 9:34 AM
Remember the Deep Impact comet Temple 1 last year.
This was done to see if we could change the trajectory of an incoming asteriod.
>>Untrue.<<
The chances that some of these objects may a 1/2 mile or so in diameter is very high.
>>Untrue.<<
This particular piece WILL IMPACT due to the gravitation attraction of the earth via the ROUSE equation which is well known and quoted by astronomers.
>>Untrue. You obviously don't know what
you are talking about.
The ROCHE equation has NOTHING to do with
orbital mechanics.<<
BUT NASA IS AGAIN LYING TO US WHEN THEY ISSUE A STATEMENT THAT THERE IS NO IMPACT. SCIENCE AND LOGIC DEFEAT THIS.
>>Science and logic defeat your claim.<<
And this particular piece 3P which is huge as it can be seen by telescope. It is much bigger than the space shuttle which 'could not' be seen at the same location. This HUGE piece may also brak up again given us two impact warnings.
>>The Space Shuttle can be seen anywhere in
its orbit. It was never at the SAME location.
Space is 3D, you know.<<
A Proven Lying President George Bush
>>He's a politician.<<
A Proven Lying NASA
>>Untrue.<<
That is a proper analyis!
>>Untrue.<<
YET --- The debunkers say this is all crap - based on what????
>>Based on the known facts.<<
What am I doing---
Moving away from the Atlantic coastline and getting out of Florida -- as these are the primary impact areas now being mentioned by the astronomers.
>>Astronomers haven't mentioned any impact areas.<<
An idea is not responsible for the people who believe in it. - Don Marquis
To defy the authority of empirical evidence is to disqualify oneself as someone worthy of critical engagement in a dialogue. - Tenzin Gyatso
Entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem - William of Ockham
The truth maybe out there, but lies are inside your head - Terry Pratchett
HALCYON DAYS STOP BEING A DIPSHIT ALL YOUR LIFE YOU MORON - Anonymous Coward |
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ac
User ID: 89708
5/7/2006 10:42 AM | | Re: COMET IMPACTS - SUMMARY OF WERE WE ARE AT! | Quote |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 52612
5/7/2006 10:43 AM | | Re: COMET IMPACTS - SUMMARY OF WERE WE ARE AT! | Quote |
And then I like to think what will be the next hype starting from june or so.... |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 76693
5/7/2006 11:02 AM | | Re: COMET IMPACTS - SUMMARY OF WERE WE ARE AT! | Quote |
I'm pro'lly not up to date, but the last I heard, this comet was measured at about 1 KM diameter back in '95. How'd it get to 18 miles? |
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Some1
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5/7/2006 1:08 PM | | Re: COMET IMPACTS - SUMMARY OF WERE WE ARE AT! | Quote |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 63593
5/7/2006 1:21 PM | | Re: COMET IMPACTS - SUMMARY OF WERE WE ARE AT! | Quote |
87109.....Bush was quoted as saying that statment about 2-3 years ago at a press confrence.... when he was ask what he thought would be his legacy years in to the future of his presidency....and I quote....."It really does NOT matter because all of us will be DEAD anyway." Patriot is correct in that statement....may at the press core confrence were stunned to say the least...when he made that statement...and ALL were left wondering what the H(^*%$*&)l he meant by that. to this day noone KNOWS.....maybe now we do...who knows. |
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Skip
User ID: 80289
5/7/2006 1:36 PM
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any proof that he said that? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 75309
5/7/2006 1:42 PM | | Re: COMET IMPACTS - SUMMARY OF WERE WE ARE AT! | Quote |
I won't fall for your fearmongering falsehoods. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 90247
5/7/2006 2:02 PM | | Re: COMET IMPACTS - SUMMARY OF WERE WE ARE AT! | Quote |
Years and Years of sexual abuse ?
You are speaking of Nancys Dog !
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 63593
5/7/2006 2:06 PM | | Re: COMET IMPACTS - SUMMARY OF WERE WE ARE AT! | Quote |
75309....my my....are we BUSH sensitive. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 74947
5/7/2006 2:42 PM | | Re: COMET IMPACTS - SUMMARY OF WERE WE ARE AT! | Quote |
I remember seeing Bush say that statement on a news show, don't remember which one. I thought WTF? Where did that come from? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 2268
5/7/2006 2:55 PM | | Re: COMET IMPACTS - SUMMARY OF WERE WE ARE AT! | Quote |
remember there are no Facts, only theories. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 65989
5/7/2006 2:59 PM | | Re: COMET IMPACTS - SUMMARY OF WERE WE ARE AT! | Quote |
“After the second interview with him on Dec. 11, we got up and walked over to one of the doors. There are all of these doors in the Oval Office that lead outside. And he had his hands in his pocket, and I just asked, ‘Well, how is history likely to judge your Iraq war,’” says Woodward.
“And he said, ‘History,’ and then he took his hands out of his pocket and kind of shrugged and extended his hands as if this is a way off. And then he said, ‘History, we don’t know. We’ll all be dead.’”
It was in his interview with Bob Woodward
[link to www.cbsnews.com] |
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Skip
User ID: 80289
5/7/2006 3:31 PM
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i think he means. we will be dead as in you have your lifetime then around 100 years later it becomes history... |
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zacksavage
User ID: 16258
5/7/2006 7:19 PM
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Good, reasonable post OP.
Z
Free your mind,...Your Ass will follow. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 90218
5/7/2006 7:22 PM | | Re: COMET IMPACTS - SUMMARY OF WERE WE ARE AT! | Quote |
Good theory but wrong comet! |
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Monkey Earthlings
User ID: 57108
5/7/2006 7:23 PM | | Re: COMET IMPACTS - SUMMARY OF WERE WE ARE AT! | Quote |
Run Monkey Earthlings Run nothing can save you now, we mock you Monkey people.
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oliod
User ID: 90614
5/7/2006 7:30 PM | | Re: COMET IMPACTS - SUMMARY OF WERE WE ARE AT! | Quote |
I think OP is just a little histerical, although it is a good idea to move away from the coasts. Also, IMO it is always prudent to have an evac plan and a well stocked hide-out. At very least have a bug-out kit packed and ready to go.  |
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zacksavage
User ID: 16258
5/7/2006 7:38 PM
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That deep impact mission left one hell-of-a-lot of unanswered questions.
A test to alter comet trajectories is not out of the question, ...imo.
I went to an observatory last night[ [link to rfo.org]
It was surreal,...we looked at Jupiter- (4 moons),...Saturn - moons. Interesting.
I brought up the comets and got the impression everyone was playing dumb on the matter.
Many new about them,... but seemed uninterested for some strange reason.
Well,...there is the fact the moon was bright and lit the heavens. The comets hide in the cloak of darkness.
I was getting hammered on a decent merlot,...one of the docents, using a laser-pointer, showed me the Hercules constellation. And the location of 73pS-W3 in the night sky.
To be cont;
Z
Free your mind,...Your Ass will follow. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 90617
5/7/2006 7:40 PM | | Re: COMET IMPACTS - SUMMARY OF WERE WE ARE AT! | Quote |
Halcyon D.,
THANKS for injecting some sense into what has become just another non-story being perpetuated by hysterical girly-boys with a lot of imagination and free time on their hands.
I think a lot of GLP-ers would simply die if they couldn't get their regular fix of phony disaster predictions from this forum... |
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molesworth
User ID: 90603
5/7/2006 7:58 PM | | Re: COMET IMPACTS - SUMMARY OF WERE WE ARE AT! | Quote |
"That deep impact mission left one hell-of-a-lot of unanswered questions.
A test to alter comet trajectories is not out of the question, ...imo."
One of the mission aims, stated publicly before launch, was to get more information which could be of use in deflecting or destroying a possible impactor. So it's not exactly a secret part of the mission.
"I went to an observatory last night[ [link]
It was surreal,...we looked at Jupiter- (4 moons),...Saturn - moons. Interesting."
Why was it surreal? That's what they do at observatories.
If you come along to my local one the staff there will be more than happy to show you things and answer all kinds of questions, as will the regulars like myself, who are often there observing or just socialising.
(Oh, and they don't charge admission there either :-) )
"I brought up the comets and got the impression everyone was playing dumb on the matter.
Many new about them,... but seemed uninterested for some strange reason."
Probably because, despite the excitement on GLP, they're not really that spectacular to look at. Even the two brightest fragments are barely more than just slightly fuzzy patches to the eye, even through a telescope, and you really need long exposure imaging to see any detail.
Plus :-
"Well,...there is the fact the moon was bright and lit the heavens. The comets hide in the cloak of darkness."
A bit melodramatic (comets don't exactly "hide") but if the Moon was up then it would be quite hard to see the fragments, especially the fainter ones. That's probably why they concentrated on planetary targets, since even the good nebulae, clusters etc. would tend to be washed out.
"I was getting hammered on a decent merlot,...one of the docents, using a laser-pointer, showed me the Hercules constellation. And the location of 73pS-W3 in the night sky."
So they weren't really playing dumb after all. :-)
BTW, it's never a good idea to drink alcohol if you're observing - even in small quantities it affects your vision. I usually save my drinks for cloudy nights, like tonight :-) |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 90629
5/7/2006 8:10 PM | | Re: COMET IMPACTS - SUMMARY OF WERE WE ARE AT! | Quote |
NAH!! Much ado 'bout nuttin. |
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zacksavage
User ID: 16258
5/7/2006 8:11 PM
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Listen Molesworth,...thanks for that arrogant response.
My opinions and observations are my own, I don't really need your advise on any number of topics,... In fact, I find your posts some of the most anally retentive on this site.
I take you for a BA hack/sock-puppet type,...am I wrong?!?!?
Anyway,...
Hey,...I met some great people last night that seemed interested in hearing my GLP opinions. I am going to the meeting of the local Astronomical Society on the 10th.
FWIW,...if you think so little of the posters on this site, please feel free to go away.
You would not be missed.
Thanks for volunteering your time/tripe.
Z
Free your mind,...Your Ass will follow. |
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molesworth
User ID: 90603
5/7/2006 8:18 PM | | Re: COMET IMPACTS - SUMMARY OF WERE WE ARE AT! | Quote |
You can read it as arrogant if you want, but it wasn't intended to be. I was simply putting an alternate point of view to yours.
And I'm not a sock-puppet for anyone - I voice my own views. Nor do I use sock puppets, unlike many here.
"FWIW,...if you think so little of the posters on this site, please feel free to go away.
You would not be missed.
Thanks for volunteering your time/tripe."
Now who's being arrogant?
Just another question - if you're not willing to listen to my thoughts on the probability of impact, or on your conspiracy theories, will you be willing to listen to the people at the astronomy club? Are you going to tell them they're being "arrogant" if they say there's no danger and there's nothing being covered up?
Still, maybe by going along there you'll learn some real astronomy... |
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fixed
User ID: 90620
5/7/2006 8:26 PM | | Re: COMET IMPACTS - SUMMARY OF WERE WE ARE AT! | Quote |
am I a stranger in this place?
when I see you I can't turn away...
There is something different in your heart..
You are not afraid of the darkness within us all... |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 90637
5/7/2006 8:27 PM | | Re: COMET IMPACTS - SUMMARY OF WERE WE ARE AT! | Quote |
I think it was more of a numbskull remark-ie Since HE will be dead (and assumes we'll all be dead-who cares)-youll all be dead! |
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zacksavage
User ID: 16258
5/7/2006 8:30 PM
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No, no, no molesworth,...those people last night were not arrogant in the least! Fine, fine folks the lot of ‘em.
I met the widow of the man who made the Observatory happen,... her daughter,...some very, very interesting folks;... I learned and listened most of the night to get a feel of the group of people.
I did not find a single arrogant person such as yourself, that spoke as if every scientific utterance they make was gospel,...imo.
I made friends with kindred spirits,...you would be the antithesis but also part of the design.
Z
Free your mind,...Your Ass will follow. |
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molesworth
User ID: 90603
5/7/2006 8:38 PM | | Re: COMET IMPACTS - SUMMARY OF WERE WE ARE AT! | Quote |
"I did not find a single arrogant persons such as yourself that spoke as if every scientific utterance they make was gospel,...imo"
That may well be your "opinion" (and you certainly seem to have plenty of them) but I challenge you to find anywhere in anything I've posted on GLP where I claim that anything I say, or that science says is "gospel".
That's not how science or scientists operate, and I've said as much many times, since the "science as religion" strawman is so often paraded here on GLP. I'm very much "anti" that view of science.
And I'd be interested to see how long these "kindred spirits" remain your "friends" when you try to bring up the sort of pseudo-science and conspiracy theories I see here so often.
Like I said, how will you react when they try to tell you that you're wrong, or you don't understand the science? If you call me arrogant just for a few light-hearted remarks, how will you cope with serious hard-line scientific debate? |
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