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Cairo: How Do We Know The Death Squads Aren't NATO? How do we Know the News Ain't Rigged?

 
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The news is reporting that the Egyptian Military is killing its own protesting citizens, who are pro-Morsi, or pro-Brotherhood, with snipers on the streets.

The news is also claiming that these factions are now stepping down, and will no longer protest because of sniper fire.

I would like GLP to think outside the box on these statements.

1. What if the snipers are NATO death squads sleeper cells activated to stabalize the region, that may or may not have been activated like sleeper cells, that the Egyptian military knows nothign about?

2. What if the Egyptian military has no offensive role to play against these snipers because of the massive protests in the way?

3. What if the news we are hearing about Egyptian protestors stepping down is purely fabricated, and mean to hijack leadership of protests in Eypt; as well as to calm investors fears world-wide over the Suez Canal potentially being blocked off?

4. What if this all propaganda meant to stabilize world markets, and to prevent a world financial meltdown, as they all hinge on the Suez Canal functioning for globalist trade?

The news may very well be right. But I have my doubts, knowing how our governments work behind our backs, on overtime. Just thought you guys should be asking these questions too...
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Re: Cairo: How Do We Know The Death Squads Aren't NATO? How do we Know the News Ain't Rigged?
The news is rigged.

The Pentagon has been using it's propaganda on other countries for decades, but the other day our government changed the law so it could be used on Amerikan citizens.

Also, they are cracking down on who can be considered a journalist to tighten control of the fake news.

I don't know why people bother with the news anymore.
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Thread: Egyptian Army warns Obama: “Supporting terrorism in Egypt is OUR red line”
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The news is rigged.

The Pentagon has been using it's propaganda on other countries for decades, but the other day our government changed the law so it could be used on Amerikan citizens.

Also, they are cracking down on who can be considered a journalist to tighten control of the fake news.

I don't know why people bother with the news anymore.
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yes... its amazing how an OP non-journalist who can barely spell, can out-smart the news.... proof is in the pudding.
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This makes me think of Iranian revolution that the CIA completey missed. Did they really miss it? Or was there just a psych-op on at the time that stated to world-wide investors that everything was fine and that there was nothing to fear?
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[link to www.youtube.com]

don't claim the system is the same as it is documented historically. but i do think once you step into he mindset of our rulers, understanding how they work, as opposed to how older institutionalist terrorism has worked, is vital to understanding current geopolitical trends.

If you are an investor with lots of money to hedge, think accordingly on your options.

other signiticant news on investing:

[link to www.zerohedge.com]
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you have to be very careful with msn, you definitly cant trust anythink they report and be certain its all for them to deceive the public in whats being reported



they are working for the elites
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Is it too much of a stretch to think that CIA et al doesn't have their snipers in Egypt too?

Not to mention that the Muslim Brotherhood and Al-CIA-da represents US interests in both proxy and asymmetric warfare.
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Well, the West has been running false flag operations in the ME for decades.

So its entirely possible.
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Well, the West has been running false flag operations in the ME for decades.

So its entirely possible.
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This makes me think of Iranian revolution that the CIA completey missed. Did they really miss it? Or was there just a psych-op on at the time that stated to world-wide investors that everything was fine and that there was nothing to fear?
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Document confirms CIA role in 1953 Iran Coup
[link to intelnews.org]

Notice the sharp contrast between the Wikipedia Fable, which all historians want us to believe is actually quite complicated:

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

This is the main reason my intellect refuses to get "educated" and to have all sort of correct answers stored away in my head. Because it just goes against the grain of how I naturally think, at every twist and turn.

Though my grammar and spelling might not be good....

"I fear God is not dead because we still believe in grammar.." Nietzsche
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The reasoon why "folklore intelligence" is perhaps more important than orthodox hisotry. Myth today, and how it is manufactured among small groups over a camp fire, is still more important to the flow of our intellect than what any state can manufacture for the masses.
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Re: Cairo: How Do We Know The Death Squads Aren't NATO? How do we Know the News Ain't Rigged?
The snipers don't belong to the Brohood or the Egyptian Government - we know this already. Very early after Morsi's ouster, in a village called Mahalla the 2 sides of protesters met each other, and then started to realize they are being sniped at - both sides. They found the guy on the roof of a building and started throwing rocks...not been said what was the outcome but both sides noticed someone is killing them.

We have also many footage of snipers on buildings that don't belong to anyone. When they protested in front of Military HQ and remember the "massacre" that happened there? It was soldiers who fell first, sniped - then protesters, then they tried to storm the HQ and of course the Army soldiers had to defend themselves and protect the Headquarter.

Same with the clearing of several areas, before a single shot was fired from Police or Army, 4 got sniped in their head...and so did protesters. That's the way to escalate the situation. Police/Army is forced to defend itself from being shot, and Protesters get angry at them if one of their guys falls, of course unarmed. We do have footage of them shooting on the ground, but we found snipers shooting from roofs and minarete of mosque. I think its quite clear what's going on to all of us here, as it was in Syria. To WHOM they belong we can only guess....you can speculate who would benefit from such things.
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The snipers don't belong to the Brohood or the Egyptian Government - we know this already. Very early after Morsi's ouster, in a village called Mahalla the 2 sides of protesters met each other, and then started to realize they are being sniped at - both sides. They found the guy on the roof of a building and started throwing rocks...not been said what was the outcome but both sides noticed someone is killing them.

We have also many footage of snipers on buildings that don't belong to anyone. When they protested in front of Military HQ and remember the "massacre" that happened there? It was soldiers who fell first, sniped - then protesters, then they tried to storm the HQ and of course the Army soldiers had to defend themselves and protect the Headquarter.

Same with the clearing of several areas, before a single shot was fired from Police or Army, 4 got sniped in their head...and so did protesters. That's the way to escalate the situation. Police/Army is forced to defend itself from being shot, and Protesters get angry at them if one of their guys falls, of course unarmed. We do have footage of them shooting on the ground, but we found snipers shooting from roofs and minarete of mosque. I think its quite clear what's going on to all of us here, as it was in Syria. To WHOM they belong we can only guess....you can speculate who would benefit from such things.
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indeed
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Re: Cairo: How Do We Know The Death Squads Aren't NATO? How do we Know the News Ain't Rigged?
The snipers don't belong to the Brohood or the Egyptian Government - we know this already. Very early after Morsi's ouster, in a village called Mahalla the 2 sides of protesters met each other, and then started to realize they are being sniped at - both sides. They found the guy on the roof of a building and started throwing rocks...not been said what was the outcome but both sides noticed someone is killing them.

We have also many footage of snipers on buildings that don't belong to anyone. When they protested in front of Military HQ and remember the "massacre" that happened there? It was soldiers who fell first, sniped - then protesters, then they tried to storm the HQ and of course the Army soldiers had to defend themselves and protect the Headquarter.

Same with the clearing of several areas, before a single shot was fired from Police or Army, 4 got sniped in their head...and so did protesters. That's the way to escalate the situation. Police/Army is forced to defend itself from being shot, and Protesters get angry at them if one of their guys falls, of course unarmed. We do have footage of them shooting on the ground, but we found snipers shooting from roofs and minarete of mosque. I think its quite clear what's going on to all of us here, as it was in Syria. To WHOM they belong we can only guess....you can speculate who would benefit from such things.
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My suspician is that these men were taken captive by the Egyptian Army.

Little if any information will likely be gathered from such captives. NATO troops in Egypt will likely be MK Ultra trained - a technique arguably first developed during the Korean War and later built upon by the highest ranking psychiatrist of the APA, who was Canadian.



With that in mind, the only confession the Egyptian Army will get from an MK Ultra candidate, will be of the following:

1. Complete nervous breakdown - the individual will actually shutdown, convulse and/or loose consciousness, from former torture, if any questioning is aimed at the truth, through post-traumatic stress programming. Abused individuals, and individuals who have experienced trauma, for example, often shutdown and lose control of their bodies and functions when cross-examined over past episodes of trauma.

2. Misdirection - it is potentially possible to implant false memories into MK Ultra victims, to propogate false and misleading intelligence that might at best, dupe the enemy into believing highly faulty information - or to ambush, trojan horse, or booby trap future exploits where such or any future intelligence information might lead.

In my opinion, MK Ultra victims are best locked up and ignored, once it becomes evident that past traumas can A) shut them down by loss of consciousness, or B) any other such suspicions that may cause concern (there are many).

This is not to say that any such potential NATO troops are MK Ultra - but it seems evident that in the past such NATO Troops within Gladio were hand picked to be extremists - it is also likely today that such candidates are a lot more than that.

It is my suspician also, that Guantanamo Bay is where a lot of Al-CIA-da are trained and programmed, before they go out into the world to do their dirty work as proxy war terrorists. This is not proven as fact, but highly likely in my view.

That being said, I am not taking sides agaisnt NATO or the West, in any shape or form. I just "think", and I don't think the propoganda we are being fed on the mainstream news, is valid for critical thinking. If anything it is leading me to believe that nationalism is dead, and that a dark transnational intelligence agency runs the world, at best.
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Even if a NATO operative volunteers for a spy program or other, and undergoes such training that involves real physical interrogation, there is no reason to believe that mind control techniques, compartmentalization, and false information might be used to programme their entire lives, if not direction, in order to mislead other nationalistic intelligence agencies into traps, and so forth.

Interrogation, in my view, is at best a mine-field. In this day and age I suspect there is no reason whatsoever to trust anything a captured NATO troop might believe of their origins. There is no reason to believe that most intelligence information that can be gathered off of most spies or captured NATO proxy war terrorists, will lead to any valuable data at all. In fact I think the picture to be quite the opposite.

I even suspect that most captured spies and NATO proxy war terrorists will lead to faulty information by design - meaning that even under volunteer conditions of origination, their entire livelihoods will have been hijacked by disinformation/propaganda.

The real thinkers, and analysts, likely never reach the battlefield, and are so far compartmentalized from those doing the dirty work, that nobody would know how to lay their hands on them. Just my thoughts.
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As a civilian, I've had one encounter by heresay. A civilian colleague described how a trained sniper in Afghanistan shot at children and killed them. Apparently this sniper justified his behaviour as being under orders, and that if he didn't kill some of the children playing, he might have got orders to destroy the entire village - if not by him, by other more drastic, sterile, and alienated means such a drone strike. This was just an argument I had to combat "third hand" about the justifications for NATO foreign policy, and what kind of world we might be shaping abroad.

I wouldn't claim BRICS is any better, or that the enemy you know is preferable to the one you don't. I'm not going there. I'm just pointing at the evidence.

It is possible that these snipers are just CIA snipers - but I doubt it because NATO has so many proxy war terrorists abroad that I'm having problems believing that most of them are not brainwashed somehow.

I think the real intelligence would be in capturing the programmers/handlers in the field, if it were possible. Not sure what you could prove. But if RT ever broke a story on that, it would prove too much in my part of the world. Especially someone who the West "knows."

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