Lucifer and Satan are two different beings. My minds eye.

uh duh




Lucifer is the Angel of Light (of truth). He is a Serephim.

Samael is the Angel of Death/seduction/deceit; he was a cherub I think.
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Satan is the accuser, he tests people; but he asks for God's permission first.


Lucifer is light, he doesn't blindly accuse or blindly test, he shines light and reveals sharp truths, he reveals the wicked for what they are, and the truly righteous enjoy his presence.

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Paradise Lost and Revelation are a load of bollocks. There was no rebellion of hell against heaven. Everything is in God's plan, and even Satan is one of his creations. If he created Satan, I think he knows what he's up to at all times, and what he is going to do.

Last Edited by Johnbert.Lennonstein on 08/18/2013 06:52 PM

Insolence!
No you are wrong. you have no first hand knowledge.

You only repeat what you read. That is fantasy. I double checked it with my minds eye. You? Well you are just one of these pretenders of knowledge.

Azrael is the Angel of Death.

You really think Satan is there to just test people?
Then you are a fool and a pretender of knowledge.
He is there to break mankind and break mankinds holiness.

Our body has been tampered with so we lose connection to All that is. Satan has his legion of devils who can kill you.

Lucifer is a FEMALE deity. She was SAD. She wasnt the bringer of light like you would like to believe.
Lucifer also tricks people because she feels betrayed.
OK?

You are no Match for me. I want to beat you if you were in my DOJO

What people now call God is actually Satan. Lucifer is Sophia or Venus. She is much higher than the fake God (the Demiurge - Yahweh, Jehovah, etc.). She/He is the bearer of wisdom and divine light, the divine feminine, Eve, Zoe and the serpent (the creature that gave the knowledge). The ortodox view says these are all bad, but it's quite the opposite. ;)

I would have to disagree that Lucifer is Sophia.
Sophia is female and she is Earth. Lucifer is a female presence but she has a mean side. She is upset!

I am a shaman so I see this.

Sophia is much more than just Earth's spirit. She's part of the godhead - Abraxas.

Sophia is very very big and she is whole. Lucifer, well not so much. She is sad that people have shunned her.
Sophia is very very happy being but she is more than a being, she is part of us too. Well she is a protector. She is giving birth soon. or have given. Our reality is gonna change.

I get this information as I see with my minds eye.

Sophia says to eat right! Eating right so your body can adapt.
Sophia says to take care of every living thing. She says we are all connected.

Sophia says that us human are selfish and only think of humans. Sophia loves all living things. Sophia says clean water is vital.

you guys are a bit misdirected, if lucifer was christ sister why did she reject him?

There is no devil except for that Prince named Caligastia!

I am also aware of the same things about Sophia. She was sad because humans have forgotten her. She even tried to make them remember, by "incarnating" in the snake in the "garden of Eden" and/or sending Eve/Zoe (her daughter) to awaken the human kind. She even appeared as Aphrodite. As to the birth... I'm also not sure if it had already happened but it is *now*.

Both are just minor Semite Gods. I find it quite revealing that the elites promote Semite Gods and then Go behind closed doors and worship Druid Gods of Oak and the Levantian Gods like Moloch.

I dont think Lucifer is Sophia. Atleast in my way or recognizing spirits and deities, they are two different beings. I might be just see one side of things but Sophia seems whole whereas Lucifer really feels as though she is fallen. She is upset that people thinks of her. I dont see how they are the same unless Lucifer is just some aspect of Sophia. Spirits and Deity world are not clear cut.

Interesting! Satans men seems like a robotic beings. The way I see it Satan made his men through him so its like a robot with a will. So Satan is a one being and his mens are creation of his will that he made. Also Satan seems like intelligent program that God made.

The being Moloch seems to be selfish genie type entity.

Wich one instigated this pissing contest?

Moloch is a type of genie. He resides in a etheric reality closer to our own. So he isnt really an angel.

He would be considered as a Ryu-shin or a dragon-god here in Japan. He likes to be the king or treated as such.

Sophia seems to be in the highest echeleon so far.
She is way above other beings in terms of presence.
Sophia really is amazing!!

All of the Semite Gods both major and minor are a creation of Rome and they mock you everytime they show a Movie about an exorcism and then the Roman's take off their Yarmulke's and lay down their crosses and go worship Moloch and laugh at all of you.

Lucifer was symbolic of the fire/spirit of the Deity that does not reside within the realm of jehova-satan.
Sophia is the Divine Goddess within the Holy Trinity. Man/Women/child?
Oh i don't know... So confusing~

According to the Genesis of Melchizedek, Lucifer was renamed to Satan after he chose darkness.

Well Sophia is both female and male and all. She transcends sex. The funny thing is that she is spring out in joy from previous shell so to speak. She gave birth to new life.
She is our universe. Mother universe.

So we are entering a new era of creation?
Very cool. She gave life. Other entities do not even compare to Sophia. Sophia is our universe.

Aeons are gendered. Sophia is female. She is the divine feminine. The "both male and female" thing you are reffering to is Abraxas - the godhead.

The Balance in the World and Man, Lucifer and Ahriman:

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Bymp

lucifer isn't a female entity; the mind's eye is deceptive.


If you have visions, it's personalized for you, interpreted by your brain connecting dots. It's your imagination; doesn't mean your visions don't hold truth, it just means you can't accept them as accurate.

I've faced the wrath of Satan, and I believe I passed my tests. The book of Job does a good job at illustrating what Satan's purpose is. He's a prick; but he was still created, he still only operates within the parameters of his creation. If he's done shit, God knew he was going to do it.

Life is like the never-ending story. Life is a gift, we are giving life to enjoy it. But we have to come to terms with the fact that it's not all smiles and sunshine, that there are times where it's hard, difficult, almost impossible; death happens, it's a part of life, it's nothing to be sad over.

The cycle of life and death continues, we will live, they will die.



Lucifer is the son of Dawn. An angel cast from heaven to walk the earth as a man, to fight for humanity. Someone who did love humanity and wanted to do what was best for them.

Prometheus was one in the same with lucifer. He stole fire from mount olympous to give it to the humans, and ended up being punished for it. Lucifer takes the fall for humanity; sometimes I wonder if Yeshua himself was lucifer; the angel of light.



Any female mystic spirit that you feel, is likely the spirit of Mary Magdalene. She represented eve. The divine mother. Joseph's Mary wasn't divine, she was just a fine jewish broad that got knocked up and they covered for her.

Mary Magdalene was something very special.

have you ever read her gospel?
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Been a lot of threads about this recently.

Your mind's eye is deceiving you, didn't Buddha point this out 2,500 years ago?