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ISON COVER UP/May not be a Comet

 
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Astro is going to say that is several pictures and the change in direction is due to the movments of Hubble and the movement of the comet.

The reason he will say is because they didn't track the comet to get those pictures. they wanted a nice background so they actually tracked the stars and that is why it appears to be three distinct separate pieces.

Is that about it Astro?
 Quoting: Funny Guy 39337837

LOL, well said. I pointed this out in another thread, but not nearly as well as you just did.

As if Hubble is going to track stars instead of the comet itself...

"Dr." Astro actually went on and on about the Earth's orbit, Hubble's orbit and ISONs orbit all combining together to create "parallax."

Because, of course, if professional astronomers and space scientists are aiming a billion dollar orbiting telescope at a comet, why, the LAST thing they'd do is actually aim AT the comet!

LOL!
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Your lack of knowledge is really astonishing.
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Oh, now THERE's a definitively scientific rebuttal!

I guess that's why you get the fancy picture in your sig, eh? LOL!
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ISON_1
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Winged planet or spaceship? If it is indeed a spaceship or planet carrying the seeders of this planet who promised of their return, I wonder how big that thing is.

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I wonder how big that thing is.
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That is the question that I have been trying to resolve.

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Also if it is time elapsed, which it could be, why is it not aerodynamic?
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Winged planet or spaceship? If it is indeed a spaceship or planet carrying the seeders of this planet who promised of their return, I wonder how big that thing is.
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If you rotated it sideways it would stretch further than the coma on either side and I believe they said the coma was 56,000km wide or 34796.8miles wide.

So yes it would be big if it were the Mother Ship. Just do us a favor and don't pull a heavens gate move. Cutting your genitals off and poisoning yourself while wearing nikes and a purple sheet makes you look stupid when nothing happens ;)
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Makes you wonder if this is what there main concern is and why they don't seem that bothered about Fukushima
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wheres MAT

DO YOU KNOW MAT?

BECAUSE GOD DOES AND MOSES AND GEORGE
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[link to heritage.stsci.edu]
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 Quoting: The 6th Sun


Winged planet or spaceship? If it is indeed a spaceship or planet carrying the seeders of this planet who promised of their return, I wonder how big that thing is.
 Quoting: Ohwell

Ohwell do you mean "promised it's return" as the good guys who promised?

But, whoa, if that's a spaceship, that would be a bad spaceship! Haha. But yeah (if so) this does point to the project blue beam right? I mean, project blue beam is about simulating a second coming of christ... If this is a spaceship then it would be in it's power to do so! Of course it is also in it's power to bring in here a load of three dimentional reptoids... Or not... Spaceships can change dimension like in this video:
[link to www.youtube.com]
2:56
Of course, it may be intentionally in three dimensions... I SON, you know, it is "real", the "son" coming back. Would make sense then... Toughts? Sorry if this has been discussed too many pages haah.

Also, is ison pointing at earth in that picture? the triangle, the dot being the "head". because if that's a spaceship it would make sense that the wings were facing back. right?

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I SON, you know, it is "real", the "son" coming back.
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Sort of like 9/11 ...
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:wingedison:

Sumerian drawing of the winged planet
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Wow, never saw that pic... interesting.
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:ISON_1:
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Winged planet or spaceship? If it is indeed a spaceship or planet carrying the seeders of this planet who promised of their return, I wonder how big that thing is.
 Quoting: Ohwell


If you rotated it sideways it would stretch further than the coma on either side and I believe they said the coma was 56,000km wide or 34796.8miles wide.

So yes it would be big if it were the Mother Ship. Just do us a favor and don't pull a heavens gate move. Cutting your genitals off and poisoning yourself while wearing nikes and a purple sheet makes you look stupid when nothing happens ;)
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WOA, Dude.....at is what 5 times bigger mass than Earth? or am i wrong, plzz correct if my head is fuzzy, i have worked a lot, am i wrong math? WOA.....how much "ERROR" is what parameter, based on your math? thanks... peacebump
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is it running to the left or right? (related to telescope)
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I pod
I pad
I phone

I SON

coincidence? yeah, right.
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Also, in addition to the last post I made, check out this page...

[link to www.solarsystemscope.com]
It says on the right side:
The hunt for ison beings as the comet RETURNS to Earth's sky (...)

Just like jesus is returning from the sky right?

Just one more cabal clue. They give us these clues for a number of reasons, one of them is that they believe it will get them rid of certain karma. Tho, karma depends on intention mostly, a good intention, aiming to benefit everybody, done with a strong feeling of compassion (which they lack) is going to give a lot of good karma! :D So not much hope there haha.

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The one thing no one has really addressed is the comparative size. How does this translate in real size dimensions.

Makes a difference, ya think?

I mean come on, there is no planet sized space ship flying at us.

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'this months' is dated APRIL (MAY on Link).

How come nothing 3 months later into August?
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'this months' is dated APRIL (MAY on Link).

How come nothing 3 months later into August?
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Because it was to close to the sun from May til July and not observable.

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If the Moon is off, if Earth wobbles or if there is a pole shift
how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

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I pod
I pad
I phone

I SON

coincidence? yeah, right.
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5a
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Hey, that thing has been debunked already , so why bother fighting about that thing being an UFO? Besides that, what's goin to happen after it shotgun our earth? Does our atmosphere is capable to protect us from the debris or it will be ice hirosima all over the place? hiding
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:ISON_1:
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That pic looks like three objects spinning in an orbit of each other, don't you remember the video they took and Thor brought here to show us? They are spinning really fast, the two lines are not lines, they just look that way in the still pic.
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We are not being shown the correct images. Until Now. [link to hla.stsci.edu]
Comet with Planets, Hercolobus [link to www.youtube.com]

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Yawn. Many woo-woos were saying the same thing about the last comet.
A voice of reason in a world of woo-woos.
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That pic looks like three objects spinning in an orbit of each other, don't you remember the video they took and Thor brought here to show us? They are spinning really fast, the two lines are not lines, they just look that way in the still pic.
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Actually there are five images from Hubble - they used images #1, #3 and #5 for the stacking.
If they had used all five images the V would be a continuous line.

From the fits headers:
1. image start 2013-04-30 - 03:35:43 UT - exposure 440 sec
Idle time: 00:02:31
2. image start 2013-04-30 - 03:45:34 UT - exposure 490 sec
Idle time: 00:02:31
3. image start 2013-04-30 - 03:56:15 UT - exposure 440 sec
Idle time: 00:02:31
4. image start 2013-04-30 - 04:06:06 UT - exposure 490 sec
Idle time: 00:02:31
5. image start 2013-04-30 - 04:16:47 UT - exposure 440 sec

During the exposure and the idle time ISON moved, Hubble moved and Earth moved. The combined movement gives the V-shape in this case.
There are other images that give an S-shape (different positions of ISON, Hubble, Earth)

If you stack the images and align it to the stars, you get the V-shaped ISON:

ISON_1

If you stack the images and align it to ISON, you get V-shaped stars (I processed all five images here):

isonhubal



Below the three images that are used for the "V-shaped" stacking: #1, #3 and #5.
Guiding on the stars.

Now show, where there are three objects, nuclei, wings or whatever in the images.

isonhub1
isonhub3
isonhub5

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If the Moon is off, if Earth wobbles or if there is a pole shift
how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

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That pic looks like three objects spinning in an orbit of each other, don't you remember the video they took and Thor brought here to show us? They are spinning really fast, the two lines are not lines, they just look that way in the still pic.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20260847

Actually there are five images from Hubble - they used images #1, #3 and #5 for the stacking.
If they had used all five images the V would be a continuous line.

From the fits headers:
1. image start 2013-04-30 - 03:35:43 UT - exposure 440 sec
Idle time: 00:02:31
2. image start 2013-04-30 - 03:45:34 UT - exposure 490 sec
Idle time: 00:02:31
3. image start 2013-04-30 - 03:56:15 UT - exposure 440 sec
Idle time: 00:02:31
4. image start 2013-04-30 - 04:06:06 UT - exposure 490 sec
Idle time: 00:02:31
5. image start 2013-04-30 - 04:16:47 UT - exposure 440 sec

During the exposure and the idle time ISON moved, Hubble moved and Earth moved. The combined movement gives the V-shape in this case.
There are other images that give an S-shape (different positions of ISON, Hubble, Earth)

If you stack the images and align it to the stars, you get the V-shaped ISON:

:ISON_1:

If you stack the images and align it to ISON, you get V-shaped stars (I processed all five images here):

:isonhubal:



Below the three images that are used for the "V-shaped" stacking: #1, #3 and #5.
Guiding on the stars.

Now show, where there are three objects, nuclei, wings or whatever in the images.

:isonhub1:
:isonhub3:
:isonhub5:

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 Quoting: Hydra


you can't be serious Hyman.
Of course the stars will form a V, IF YOU ALIGN IT ON THE V SHAPED ISON! rofl are you fucking kidding me? are you this fucking dumb? I can take ANY PHOTO OF ANYTHING, and align on an arbitrary V and the rest of the photo will of course V out also.

The fact is ISON itself is a V and a real object. And you can't explain that away with parallax. Yes there IS parallax, BUT SUCH A MINUTE AMOUNT ITS INSIGNIFICANT. I can't believe you are this dumb. And if you aren't that means you are purposely being deceptive. And if you are you aren't trying that hard are you.
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That pic looks like three objects spinning in an orbit of each other, don't you remember the video they took and Thor brought here to show us? They are spinning really fast, the two lines are not lines, they just look that way in the still pic.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20260847

Actually there are five images from Hubble - they used images #1, #3 and #5 for the stacking.
If they had used all five images the V would be a continuous line.

From the fits headers:
1. image start 2013-04-30 - 03:35:43 UT - exposure 440 sec
Idle time: 00:02:31
2. image start 2013-04-30 - 03:45:34 UT - exposure 490 sec
Idle time: 00:02:31
3. image start 2013-04-30 - 03:56:15 UT - exposure 440 sec
Idle time: 00:02:31
4. image start 2013-04-30 - 04:06:06 UT - exposure 490 sec
Idle time: 00:02:31
5. image start 2013-04-30 - 04:16:47 UT - exposure 440 sec

During the exposure and the idle time ISON moved, Hubble moved and Earth moved. The combined movement gives the V-shape in this case.
There are other images that give an S-shape (different positions of ISON, Hubble, Earth)

If you stack the images and align it to the stars, you get the V-shaped ISON:

:ISON_1:

If you stack the images and align it to ISON, you get V-shaped stars (I processed all five images here):

:isonhubal:



Below the three images that are used for the "V-shaped" stacking: #1, #3 and #5.
Guiding on the stars.

Now show, where there are three objects, nuclei, wings or whatever in the images.

:isonhub1:
:isonhub3:
:isonhub5:

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 Quoting: Hydra


Ok, two objects spinning then, because the motion video showed movement, not like you'd see from a single object. Two objects spinning is what I saw, you gonna deny that?

What does the Earth movement have to do with the Hubble and ISON? The Earth movement shouldn't even be a factor. The Earth has nothing to do with either one. So why would you say that?
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Thread killer! tounge
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If those pics are real, then they bring up some serious questions - starting with why Astro didn't show them, and even said that the unstacked photos didn't exist. Why?

But secondly, the orginal ISON Cover Up video showed how, on NASA's own website, the exposure slider could be used to reveal the inner structure of the coma. THESE photos look like coma photos - so what is their inner structure? Are there multiple inner elements? Or just a single dirty snowball point source?

Careful, it's a trick question.

Point sources can't turn into lines and back again.

And they can't turn into Vs.

Dotted line Vs, mebbe. But not points stretched into lines.

And Hubble's orbit is curved, not a V, and Hubble tracks - it counter-rotates to cancel out the curve of the orbit.

So the only line possibility is STRAIGHT, not V-shaped, because the tracking cancels the orbit curvature (which would still make it curved and not V-shaped if it wasn't tracked, but see, I'm trying to help you here).

As a result, the only parallax-inducing possibility is the width of the earth.

BUT - ISON is showing an angle of 120 degrees! Across a parallax of the width of the Earth, at a distance past Mars?

LOL, not for some dirty snowball a few miles across - not in a million years.
REPOSTING THE AC's response, because he articulates it much better than I can:


You'd have to have a line hundreds of thousands of miles long, maybe over a million, at this distance, with such minute parallax travel as the diameter of the Earth. And even then, the track would be a line - not a point or a V.

It's like setting a camera on a penny at one end of a football field. Then at the other end of the field, taking a matchstick and pointing it straight down the field. Then you move the camera the width of the penny, taking photos. Hell, I'll even let you move the matchstick in the opposite direction, the width of a penny, to maximize the possibility of what you are claiming. Okay - two pennies. Satisfied?

Will the photos show parallax?

Sure.

A little, tiny bit.

But ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY DEGREES of parallax?

Sure - IF your matchstick was TEN MILES LONG.

And glowing like hell.

So maybe you're right - maybe is IS parallax.

In which case, a glowing line longer than a planet is appraoching planet Earth.

I'm down for it - how about you?




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