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....And Obama gonna take his gun? yeah right....

 
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That is why we have cops you savages.
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Oh, I missed this part.

So what exactly did the cops do? What could they do? How does your quote represent any form of logic?

The cops are gonna take a report?

So you're gonna hold all the blood in your body in with duct-tape?
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Re: ....And Obama gonna take his gun? yeah right....
No need for this, because LUCIFER (The son of god a.k.a jesus) HAS ARRIVED TO PWN SOME FUCKING NOOBS. I AM TALKING HE IS GOING TO FUCKING KILL, TORTURE AND RAPE THE Illuminati/Masonry/Occult/MuslimBrotherhood/CIA/Interpol/*cou​gh*Royal*cough* Shitstain bloodlines/Skull&Bones.


Or to make it easier just add them all up and call them the "Untermenschen Vereinung" (They actually prefer this name more).
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Re: ....And Obama gonna take his gun? yeah right....
Disgusting, you can't take someone's life to secure a few bucks. He should have just let the poor victim of social injustice take whatever he wanted and let him be.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1516308


Something that is universally true about firearms. If you point one at someone you are threatening their life. If you are not prepared to take it, or have someone fight for their lives then don't point a gun at someone you don't intend to shoot.

OMFG the poor robbers just wanted to threaten someone's life and take their livelihood. They should just roll over and take it.... I guess they should let them rape everyone in the place too, and while they're at it sodomize the family pet...

Jeez. When someone threatens your life, they are not a victim, and they are not your friend.

Survival instinct. Get some!
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Don't waste your breath on that Nethertard. They are INCURABLY stupid. Almost as hopeless as an Oztard!
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That is why we have cops you savages.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1516308


Oh, I missed this part.

So what exactly did the cops do? What could they do? How does your quote represent any form of logic?

The cops are gonna take a report?

So you're gonna hold all the blood in your body in with duct-tape?
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Cops are actually trained so they are able to shoot somebody without killing them.
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SO why then does it work perfectly fine in my country?
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Because that's YOUR country, FILL IN THE REST.

People get robbed but they just give them their stuff.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1516308
This has nothing to do with anything. Have you been robbed in the states?

Nobody dies.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1516308

Oh, believe, LOT'S of people die here.

What you just don't understand is that a human life is more valuable than a stupid crime.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1516308


No, that's what THEY (the criminals) don't UNDERSTAND.

Why would you do petty crimes and end up killing or maiming another innocent person?

And how do you know he really threatened their lives? He didn't shoot at them right?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1516308

So you're saying the only reason to shoot, was if the criminal started executing people?

This is the reason you are not allowed to have guns.
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Cops are actually trained so they are able to shoot somebody without killing them.
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What kind of capes do they use when they fly there from the station?

You realize this event probably lasted a matter of seconds to minutes, meanwhile response time could've been from 2-3-5 minutes to 10.
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Re: ....And Obama gonna take his gun? yeah right....
And, just to add one for the rest.

If there had been police officers there.

What do you think they would've done?

They are trained to empty their clips here so as to not "find out" if it's loaded and he's going to shoot back.
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Disgusting, you can't take someone's life to secure a few bucks. He should have just let the poor victim of social injustice take whatever he wanted and let him be.
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Yeah and after they get the money they beat your brains out with a pool cue for being a witness. You threaten someones life you give up any expectation of safety. I guess you socialist scumbags would try to reason with insane criminals.
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That is why we have cops you savages.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1516308


Oh, I missed this part.

So what exactly did the cops do? What could they do? How does your quote represent any form of logic?

The cops are gonna take a report?

So you're gonna hold all the blood in your body in with duct-tape?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43934290


Cops are actually trained so they are able to shoot somebody without killing them.
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This is a lie , no cops except for cops in the netherlands ( which I doubt) train to wound with firearms.
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That is why we have cops you savages.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1516308


Oh, I missed this part.

So what exactly did the cops do? What could they do? How does your quote represent any form of logic?

The cops are gonna take a report?

So you're gonna hold all the blood in your body in with duct-tape?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43934290


Cops are actually trained so they are able to shoot somebody without killing them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1516308


This is a lie , no cops except for cops in the netherlands ( which I doubt) train to wound with firearms.
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If that wasn't the case you could just give every retard a gun and say "if you are scared just shoot your gun!"
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08/19/2013 05:04 PM
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This Netherland dude HAS to be a troll.
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But somebody in your home is not really a threat now is it? He is just there, for all you know he will run away the moment he sees you.
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OR they kill you, rape your wife, kill her, kill the dog, take your stuff and then leave.

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This Netherland dude HAS to be a troll.
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I was thinking that.
If that wasn't the case you could just give every retard a gun and say "if you are scared just shoot your gun!"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1516308


Why would you do that?

If your life was in danger, you wouldn't use it?
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This Netherland dude HAS to be a troll.
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here is a good video.

If you just think away the moron with the blowhorn there are actually pretty good arguments presented against guns

[link to www.youtube.com]
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08/19/2013 05:08 PM
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You violate my sense of safety, you get shot.
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Oh so I can just shoot anybody who "violates my sense of safety"?
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Any asshole that enters my home, business, car, etc. with a weapon already drawn is a threat to my life. I don't give a shit if its pointing at my head or the ground. If the gun is already drawn he is trying to convey the message that he is ready to use it therefore I am ready to defend myself and stop him from doing what he intends.
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But somebody in your home is not really a threat now is it? He is just there, for all you know he will run away the moment he sees you, why would you have to kill him over nothing?

A threat in my opinion is a guy shooting at you or somebody putting a knife against your throat.

Somebody just wondering in your house doesn't seem like a big enough threat to me to just kill somebody over.
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Why are you pandering to this poster? He is a "troll".
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Criminals are NOT VICTIMS of their upbringing or anything else. It is a CHOICE to be and act moral or immoral. There are those that have the best in the world and still will choose to do evil and criminal acts. And there are those, many, who have not let their circumstances determine their moral character and have not become criminals or choose to do evil. The choice is the same FOR ALL, no matter their circumstances, rich or poor you choose to live in dignity and character, or NOT. Some have to work harder to achieve this, and circumstances do not matter if they CHOOSE to better themselves.

OP you say that there is no way to tell if they are intending to kill you when they break in to your home or business. Are you to wait to SEE if they are actually harming/murdering and then say “Oh, so sorry you were murdered by the CRIMINAL, I guess he really was intending to do harm when he was BREAKING the LAW”? And, you say that a person who has proven their low or non existent character and determination to do evil by BREAKING THE LAW, to BEHAVE in a CIVILIZED (a law abiding, moral character etc. person) manner and NOT cross that line into harm or murder, just because the ones that they have preyed upon COOPERATES with their evil intent – to them you say when the criminal harms or murders a cooperative true VICTIM here, “ So sorry you must have won the lottery on the ONE criminal who isn’t CIVILIZED (meaning one who has moral character)”.

And to your “criminals don’t feel a need to own a gun”, here is an article about guns and crime in the Netherlands that disputes your opinion - [link to qsi.cc] And also, just how many murder victims of armed robbery (where the robber murdered the one whom he was robbing) were there in the last several years in the Netherlands? How many would be acceptable to you? You do not seem to feel the same compassion for the true victims in these cases. The ones getting robbed don’t get to CHOOSE NOT TO BE ROBBED, they are the ones getting preyed upon, on the other hand the criminal DOES CHOOSE TO DO the evil and criminal act.

And as for intent of the criminal (one who has intentions on doing harm and criminal acts despite the law) – it doesn’t take much search for you to see that many armed robbers don’t wait for someone whom they are robbing to “cooperate”, they will come in and start shooting whoever is in the place so that there are no witness or hindrance of their evil intentions and goal. What do you say about these instances when they are not given the CHOICE to COOPERATE?

You say that it is the police who they are to report it to so that THEY can capture or possible SHOOT and KILL the criminal. You have stated that ANYONE who has killed another, despite the circumstances should face some amount of incarceration. Then, by those standards the POLICE whom have killed someone should also. Are they, as people, exempt from that moral “law” of killing? Or why not?

On the same subject of anyone killing another. Should a person who is driving a car, and has a heart attack or other physical impairing circumstance, and looses control of their car and hits and kills another – by your standard this person should face incarceration for murder. I guess that they should have KNOWN that they were going to have a heart attack or whatever and not driven that day (or any other), right?

Accidents happen with no malice, negligence or intent, that result in the death of another. Should these people be called murderer’s and incarcerated? You might feel different if it happens to you. The death of anyone should be mourned as a loss. We all will die at some point, whether by accident, disease, naturally, or by another – accidentally or intentionally. Some of these can be prevented and life extended a bit longer. You seem to value the person who chooses to do evil over the one who choose to be moral and of higher character. Which one is more valuable to society? And which one should be protected for the good of society?
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For the most part criminals have guns to protect themselves from vigilantes who want to take justice into their own hands.

Here most criminals don't have guns cause they don't need to protect themselves.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1516308


^^^ Liberalism is a mental disorder ^^^ Shitty logic thinking there... Poor criminals. So what if criminals rape you and steal your money... It's all about welfare of poor criminals... wah! wah!

Grow a fucking brain, you retard.
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So having a different opinion than others is a mental disorder? Very telling, I am being very reserved in my opinions, I could also be throwing around dick sizes and little man complexes but I try to stay civil.

Society is measured by how it treats it's poorest people. Criminals are for the most part victims of their upbringing and environment. They are so poor that they are practically forced to break the law. Nobody is going to starve themselves to death in order to follow the "holy" law. Nobody just wants to rob people and risk getting hurt or put in prison.

These people need help, not bullets between their eyes.
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Wow! Just wow!!

I have to make an assumption here, because I honestly do not understand the "live and let live" mentality you are spouting here. In your country, you are telling us, that it is perfectly acceptable to rob someone of their money, steal the things in their houses, maybe even carjack you at gunpoint, and the citizens accept this as normalcy? Maybe you treat your criminals too well. Here in the US, we EXPECT EVERYONE to obey the rule of Law. That is the norm, not the exception, and we dont allow someone's upbringing or lack thereof to become an excuse for bad behavior.

And how would you propose to "help" them?
Reward them for NOT robbing?
Give them Government assistance in order to stop them from having to steal?
Perhaps make donations to the local criminal's guild?

At some point every man must take personal responsibility for his actions. This is the premis that keeps civil societies civil, without personal responsibility there can be no civility.
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Thank you. Excellent post.
Within the surreal depths of "reality" lies the truth.
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I simply cannot fathom how this person could watch their child be shot by an intruder, stand there be shot himself, and claims even in those circumstances, it's better to be kill than to kill.

wtf
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THREE CHEERS TO THE BARTENDER!
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This Netherland dude HAS to be a troll.
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yep...

Obama, you need to get off the proxy, and get back to work. Don't you have something more to cover up?
Within the surreal depths of "reality" lies the truth.
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Killing people because they steal a buck or 2 from you is just barbaric and uncivilised. That is why we have cops you savages.
Don't you value human life? Do you really think 10 bucks is more important than a human life?
I mean ffs, that is why murder is so rampant in the states, you kill each other over nothing, you just have to look at somebody sideways and boom, there goes your head cause pride is more important than life.

How do you even know the gun is real? Maybe it was just a confused teen in despiration, does he really deserve to die for 1 fuck up? Was your life really in danger? If you had just given him his money you would still be unharmed, the only thing that chances is that a human being gets a second chance at life.
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Shut up pussy. Put a gun in my face and you lie down period.
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Was that Obammy's son that got shot?
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That is why we have cops you savages.
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Oh, I missed this part.

So what exactly did the cops do? What could they do? How does your quote represent any form of logic?

The cops are gonna take a report?

So you're gonna hold all the blood in your body in with duct-tape?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43934290


Haven't you heard?! Police have superduper powers!!! They can shoot lasers from their eyes and burn the badguys hands making them drop their weapons! They can also leap tall buildings in a single bound...they sense crime with their superpower ESP...even when a victim can't get to a phone!!!!

I heard they're making a superduperpower station in Utah that collects all the thoughts from the all of the terrible and mean villains of the world!!

They're awesome man! We should all worship them!
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Disgusting, you can't take someone's life to secure a few bucks. He should have just let the poor victim of social injustice take whatever he wanted and let him be.
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Ok
Leftism and statism are considered good attributes in the Netherlands. Regardless of personal opinion they fall over themselves to appear to others as fair minded, generous and giving people.
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Killing people because they steal a buck or 2 from you is just barbaric and uncivilised. That is why we have cops you savages.
Don't you value human life? Do you really think 10 bucks is more important than a human life?
I mean ffs, that is why murder is so rampant in the states, you kill each other over nothing, you just have to look at somebody sideways and boom, there goes your head cause pride is more important than life.

How do you even know the gun is real? Maybe it was just a confused teen in despiration, does he really deserve to die for 1 fuck up? Was your life really in danger? If you had just given him his money you would still be unharmed, the only thing that chances is that a human being gets a second chance at life.
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More Libtard Eurotrash bullshit, you need a dose of natural selection.

The stupid is strong in you.
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Awesome quote at the bottom of your post! And don't worry, the natural selection will kick in any day...they don't have guns to protect themselves from their beloved police...
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Curious, is this the general feeling in the Netherlands? I've not seen anyone else else from there chime in.

Yeah, Ole 'America might have some issues, but one thing I can tell you about us, we won't back down.
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Killing people because they steal a buck or 2 from you is just barbaric and uncivilised. That is why we have cops you savages.
Don't you value human life? Do you really think 10 bucks is more important than a human life?
I mean ffs, that is why murder is so rampant in the states, you kill each other over nothing, you just have to look at somebody sideways and boom, there goes your head cause pride is more important than life.

How do you even know the gun is real? Maybe it was just a confused teen in despiration, does he really deserve to die for 1 fuck up? Was your life really in danger? If you had just given him his money you would still be unharmed, the only thing that chances is that a human being gets a second chance at life.
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Listen here, you stupid, stupid cocksucker...my cousin in law was murdered for 78 bucks and change because he didn't hand it over fast enough, so take your fucked up bullshit opinion and SHOVE IT UP YOUR ASS, you God damned PARASITE!
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Killing people because they steal a buck or 2 from you is just barbaric and uncivilised. That is why we have cops you savages.
Don't you value human life? Do you really think 10 bucks is more important than a human life?
I mean ffs, that is why murder is so rampant in the states, you kill each other over nothing, you just have to look at somebody sideways and boom, there goes your head cause pride is more important than life.

How do you even know the gun is real? Maybe it was just a confused teen in despiration, does he really deserve to die for 1 fuck up? Was your life really in danger? If you had just given him his money you would still be unharmed, the only thing that chances is that a human being gets a second chance at life.
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Listen here, you stupid, stupid cocksucker...my cousin in law was murdered for 78 bucks and change because he didn't hand it over fast enough, so take your fucked up bullshit opinion and SHOVE IT UP YOUR ASS, you God damned PARASITE!
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Amen!!!!!!
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Curious, is this the general feeling in the Netherlands? I've not seen anyone else else from there chime in.

Yeah, Ole 'America might have some issues, but one thing I can tell you about us, we won't back down.
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Here is an article from my country, it is translated poorly cause I am lazy.

community service after death burglar

BREDA -
The father and son who were involved in October 2011 at the death of a 24-year-old burglar in the Brabant Steenbergen, have been both a community service. That the court in Breda Thursday determined.

 
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The victim was then bathed in the blood found in a property to the Kruitweg. He was on the run from the father and son after they had caught while some tried to steal cannabis plants at their homes. Him in the act The man then jumped through a window in panic from the outside. He died a short time later of his injuries.
The 34-year-old son has a community service of 80 hours and received a suspended sentence of one month. The 64-year-old father got to forty hours of community service imposed writes Omroep Brabant. The court also explained both an unconditional prison sentence, but because they were already at that time nearly three months in custody, they do not have the cell again.

[link to www.telegraaf.nl]

You don't just get to murder people here, we put value on human life.
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Its unbelievable that this mentally exists today. This person would be plucked off in seconds here in the states.

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