....And Obama gonna take his gun? yeah right....

This is true .Most criminals in the states always follow Marquis of Queensbury rules.

Our culture is more violent yes.

We are also a melting pot of many of the world's cultures.

We have about 313 million here while you have about 4 or 5 million there.

I imagine your weather has a lot to do with it as well. A summer in Louisiana would make anyone a bit touchy. lol.

Now that being said. American's don't relish murder. There are many of us who have a very individualistic and liberty based set of morals and standards. Part of that is personal responsibility. There are many Americans who feel it is there responsibility for their own protection, or in many cases feel that the current system is too incompetent to meet their needs in safety. (Which some of your countryman discovered when that psycho went off there.)

Look at the state of crime in my country. It has nothing to do with guns. The guns are a tool. There is a lot of barbarism here, but to use parts of Africa as example, and the UK, if you don't have a gun, a knife or machete will work just fine...

People are violent creatures. I'm happy you feel safe where you are. I just hope you take a little time to think about how there truly are murders out there, and you've been shielded from them.

Remember you're culture was once a race of seafaring marauders. Not exactly the kind you'd like to say hi too on the open seas.

If he has a gun pointed at you, there is a good frikken reason to believe he MIGHT do something.

***BANG*** I shoot first.

Here is a simple answer for AC from the Netherlands.

Would you rather live knowing your weakness is responsible for the death of your daughter or another loved one or would you rather live knowing that you defended yourself and a loved one from someone who wanted to kill you?

The problem we have is that the evil people that would kill for a buck or two KNOW that there are people who accept the life of a victim.

If these evil people knew that there were no easy marks they would think twice or three times before they choose to commit a crime.

People that accept the victim lifestyle are what makes it so dangerous out there for everyone.

excellent breakdown AC, but I still don't think he will comprehend your point.

For the most part criminals have guns to protect themselves from vigilantes who want to take justice into their own hands.

Here most criminals don't have guns cause they don't need to protect themselves.

Well said AC.

It's the other way around here. If someone demanded money, without a weapon. I would tell them to get bent and walk on. If they attacked me I would be sure to defend myself, but I wouldn't kill them.

On the other side of the coin if someone desperate asked me for money, Key word here is ask. I would help them out.

As soon as they threaten your life, that is where a line should be drawn.

For the most part criminals have guns to protect themselves from vigilantes who want to take justice into their own hands.

Here most criminals don't have guns cause they don't need to protect themselves.

You still missed the point.

Where do you get this "the criminals are victims" mentality from?

It's a bit different here, anyone can own a gun, so criminals take advantage of that in order to perpetrate their crimes. They use surprise and the fear of the gun to get what they want. The regular citizen that owns guns for protection KNOW this and accept the fact that they may become a victim unless they choose to fight. We choose to defend ourselves or to allow ourselves to become a victim.

There are no middle roads, there is no third option.

Stand and deliver, or lie down and take whatever comes.

You were repeatedly dropped on your head as a baby, right? I mean, there is no other explanation for the idiocy spewing from your brain. You have to be mentally deficient to believe what you're saying here.

"FWANKS 'N BEANS!! FWANKS 'N BEANS!!!"

^^^ Liberalism is a mental disorder ^^^ Shitty logic thinking there... Poor criminals. So what if criminals rape you and steal your money... It's all about welfare of poor criminals... wah! wah!

Grow a fucking brain, you retard.

Pretty telling that it's almost impossible to distinguish a genuine Obama voter from a Troll.

I really dont think this one is a troll, he just does not understand our society. I have seen this condition before from the people that came from Libtardistan.

Thanks for the pin

What an idiot. You going to wait for a family member to DIE before you act? Who's it going to be? Your wife? Maybe a daughter?

It's called Justice baby!!!

Instant Karma...

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Sure glad you don't live in the US, Asshat!

Beautifully said.
Again -

Someone aims a gun at me or my family, I'm shooting them first. Period.

So having a different opinion than others is a mental disorder? Very telling, I am being very reserved in my opinions, I could also be throwing around dick sizes and little man complexes but I try to stay civil.

Society is measured by how it treats it's poorest people. Criminals are for the most part victims of their upbringing and environment. They are so poor that they are practically forced to break the law. Nobody is going to starve themselves to death in order to follow the "holy" law. Nobody just wants to rob people and risk getting hurt or put in prison.

These people need help, not bullets between their eyes.

Your liberal logic has now reached total idiocy. Your words fall on deaf ears because you are stating that an armed criminals life is worth just as much as the victims.

I do want to take this time to thank you, though. You have solidified my hatred and total disdain for liberals.

Social injustice is slang for lazy won't work but will take what he needs from others.

..... sigh, ofcourse I am not going to let them kill my family members but how do you know he is going to kill them if he isn't trying to kill them?
And there are other ways to stop such a person instead of emptying a magazine clip in them. Many people are able to talk their way out of it, you can call the cops, you can try to disarm him. There countless of options that would not end in bloodshed.

Really, aren't we civilised? Aren't we passed the days of witchburnings and "an eye for an eye"?

I am utterly speechless....

JEsus fuck,,, ofcourse the life of a criminal is not worth more, they are worth THE SAME. What is so fucking hard about this to understand?

Shows how little you know about the states. Our politicians, our wealthy comprise most of our criminals.

so what would happen to society if everyone just took what they wanted?