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Message Subject ....And Obama gonna take his gun? yeah right....
Poster Handle s. d. butler
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It was the perp that did not value human life enough to control himself you stupid nanny state loving fag. If a human being is stupid enough to take a firearm into an establishment and threaten peoples lives in order to get "a buck or two" he's worth more to society dead than alive.

God damn you're a stupid motherfucker!
 Quoting: Chip


SO why then does it work perfectly fine in my country? People get robbed but they just give them their stuff, nobody dies in the end and crime isn't worse here. What you just don't understand is that a human life is more valuable than a stupid crime. And how do you know he really threatened their lives? He didn't shoot at them right? The onyl person threatening someone's life was the "hero" bartender.

IMO even in 100% justified self defense you should go to prison for a year or so, taking a human life is ALWAYS bad.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1516308


There is no justification possible,moral or otherwise, for threatening someone's life and taking valuables by force.

That is always wrong and should be met with the strongest possible resistance.

But of course the neutered euros can't resist because the only means they have to resist is physical force. In effect Europe has brought back the law of the jungle. The physically stronger can take what they want from weaker people.

I doubt if that works "perfectly fine" in your country.

If being a helpless serf is your cup of tea, that's fine. Just don't wish, expect and want everyone else to be the same.

And don't try to cover up this disgusting servility by attempting to co opt the moral high ground.
 Quoting: s. d. butler


well people are allowed to defend themselves, just with appropriate force. You can't hit somebody if he hasn't hit you, you can't kill somebody if he hasn't tried to kill you.
Yeah pointing a gun at someone is threatening so you are allowed to try to disarm them and in some cases you might even be allowed to kill them but only in extreme circumstances. Some guy robbing somebody for a few bucks is not worth taking the life of another person.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1516308


when someone holds a gun on you they are threatening to take your life whether or not you comply.

In many cases criminals kill people execution style after they are tied up or have given over their valuables.

There is no way to know what the mindset is.

So the appropriate thing to do is consider robbery by force as a deadly threat.
 
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