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What is it about the Harry Potter books/movies that upset everyone so much? Isn't it another story of good overcoming evil?

 
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What is it about the Harry Potter books/movies that upset everyone so much? Isn't it another story of good overcoming evil?
I just don't understand why this isn't a good metaphor to teach children.

You didn't mean to mind Star Wars. Sam story in a different metaphor.

What is the concern? Just because they are called wizards witches? That's silly.
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I just don't understand why this isn't a good metaphor to teach children.

You didn't mean to mind Star Wars. Sam story in a different metaphor.

What is the concern? Just because they are called wizards witches? That's silly.
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Typo:

Meant to say: "You didn't seem to mind"...
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I think it's because they're muggles.
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I think it's because they're muggles.
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You mean "we" are muggles... *smile*
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Re: What is it about the Harry Potter books/movies that upset everyone so much? Isn't it another story of good overcoming evil?
Love the books, but I don't know in the movies just something about seeing harry's dorky face..makes me want to bash it right the fuck in.
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Love the books, but I don't know in the movies just something about seeing harry's dorky face..makes me want to bash it right the fuck in.
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Why so much anger? He is just an actor doing the best that he can after all.
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These books really do seem to hugely affect people both negatively and positively.

I can't understand what it is that causes this.
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Love the books, but I don't know in the movies just something about seeing harry's dorky face..makes me want to bash it right the fuck in.
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Why so much anger? He is just an actor doing the best that he can after all.
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Theres no anger, just some strange compulsion i have, I can't explain it. I'm not angry at the books or the movie, just his face.
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Books were great, movies were good... I don't see the need for this thread
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Re: What is it about the Harry Potter books/movies that upset everyone so much? Isn't it another story of good overcoming evil?
He uses sorcery,

Galatians 5:19-21

Now the works of the flesh are evident: sexual immorality, impurity, sensuality, idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, rivalries, dissensions, divisions, envy, drunkenness, orgies, and things like these. I warn you, as I warned you before, that those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.

Basically the Christian idea behind magic, sorcery or any divination is it was not meant for man to learn. The Grigori or Watchers taught man this secret against the wishes of god. It is also quite often used to summon or deal with evil/unclean spirits or demons. Therefor a sin in the eyes of god.
Three bearded beings, the "Star-gods," each holding a star in his right hand, which is stretched aloft, and with his left towing a small boat containing the "Face of the Disk." ~Book of the Gates.
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He uses sorcery,

Galatians 5:19-21

Now the works of the flesh are evident: sexual immorality, impurity, sensuality, idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, rivalries, dissensions, divisions, envy, drunkenness, orgies, and things like these. I warn you, as I warned you before, that those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.

Basically the Christian idea behind magic, sorcery or any divination is it was not meant for man to learn. The Grigori or Watchers taught man this secret against the wishes of god. It is also quite often used to summon or deal with evil/unclean spirits or demons. Therefor a sin in the eyes of god.
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Ok, let's look at that. There is absolutely NO sexual immorality at ALL in the books. If you think there is, please tell me where. None.

They don't worship any diety anywhere in the book. Nowhere.

Orgies? You must be kidding!

Maybe the energy of the magic comes from within.

Didn't Jesus do magic? Didn't he? Water into wine? Raising the dead? Of course he did.

I bet that you never even read one page of the books! SWo, how do you know what they are really about?
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Books were great, movies were good... I don't see the need for this thread
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Read the post above this one!

That is why!
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:voldebean:
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Why the silly shit?
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voldebean
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Why the silly shit?
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Because the ones disagreeing with you are just plain silly....I sent in VoldeBean to get them.
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:voldebean:
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Why the silly shit?
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Because the ones disagreeing with you are just plain silly
....I sent in VoldeBean to get them.
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So far yes, I agree.
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Re: What is it about the Harry Potter books/movies that upset everyone so much? Isn't it another story of good overcoming evil?
Books were great, movies were good... I don't see the need for this thread
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Read the post above this one!

That is why!
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Well that person is obviously a few cards short of a full deck.
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Re: What is it about the Harry Potter books/movies that upset everyone so much? Isn't it another story of good overcoming evil?
Books were great, movies were good... I don't see the need for this thread
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Read the post above this one!

That is why!
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Well that person is obviously a few cards short of a full deck.
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both from canada no less
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Re: What is it about the Harry Potter books/movies that upset everyone so much? Isn't it another story of good overcoming evil?
How can people have such angry and forceful views about something that they never even read or watched!

I can understand hating or fearing something that you have experienced that you might find offensive, but the NEVER even have read or watched it is just childish and cowardly.

Read the book and then tell me what you think!

The books are the ULTIMATE story of good triumphing over evil!

You would think that a Christian would love that! The magic you are afraid of is ALL OVER the bible!!!!
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voldebean
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Why the silly shit?
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Because the ones disagreeing with you are just plain silly
....I sent in VoldeBean to get them.
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So far yes, I agree.
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People yell about 'the government' trying to 'dumb us down'....and I'm not comparing the Potter books to 'classics'...
but it's the same morans who scream that Potter is EVIL that are also stripping 'catcher in the rye', 'slaughterhouse 5' and the like from schools.
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Books were great, movies were good... I don't see the need for this thread
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Read the post above this one!

That is why!
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Well that person is obviously a few cards short of a full deck.
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Most Christians have this understanding of the books/movies...
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Just wished that the basilisk killed everyone in Harry Potter...like Jabba the Hutt should have done in Star Wars.

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Why the silly shit?
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Because the ones disagreeing with you are just plain silly
....I sent in VoldeBean to get them.
=-)
 Quoting: Dace


So far yes, I agree.
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People yell about 'the government' trying to 'dumb us down'....and I'm not comparing the Potter books to 'classics'...
but it's the same morans who scream that Potter is EVIL that are also stripping 'catcher in the rye', 'slaughterhouse 5' and the like from schools.
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Yes, I completely agree.

The HP books are not very advanced works of literature I admit. And you are exactly right. The people wanting to remove these books from the shelves haven't read them either.

It's all based on fear and ignorance.
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Just wished that the basilisk killed everyone in Harry Potter...like Jabba the Hutt should have done in Star Wars.

5a
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Another genius here.
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Re: What is it about the Harry Potter books/movies that upset everyone so much? Isn't it another story of good overcoming evil?
How can ANYTHING that you can read, see or hear harm or change your belief system?

Are your beliefs that weak that a childen's book could damage or corrupt it? Are yo THAT weak?

Ignorance is NEVER bliss...

Read the books and then judge whether they are evil.

Again, there is magic all throughout the bible. What are you afraid of?
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How many of you afraid fools even know that Harry Potter is the story of Jesus?

He fights evil, dies and is reborn. He does this to save the world! And he does!!!

What is wrong with that story??????

Tell me!!!!!
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How can people have such angry and forceful views about something that they never even read or watched!

I can understand hating or fearing something that you have experienced that you might find offensive, but the NEVER even have read or watched it is just childish and cowardly.

Read the book and then tell me what you think!

The books are the ULTIMATE story of good triumphing over evil!

You would think that a Christian would love that! The magic you are afraid of is ALL OVER the bible!!!!
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Well, some of us are just smarter thab folk like you. YOu ssee we have seen and experienced things aenough to use common-sense and that some things are not meant to be put in a "light" way. You're a real dumbass if you can't figure out where the power comes from. The whole movie glorifies sorcery and witchcraft. ANd WHY would someone want these kinds of powers and controls? Well, personal histories'accounts history has shown us....that people will use it to decieve, manipulate, steal from other and even murder to take what someone welse has. Envy, and greed are powerful motives. Harry Potter type-stories attracts kids...and people with minds like "kids" to looking up the black arts. They are kindling an interest...that will lead them down that road. One would have to ask YOU...what do you care how others feel? Why is that you THINK you can change the minds of others aganist the wills? Look into the mirror and do some soul searching!
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How can people have such angry and forceful views about something that they never even read or watched!

I can understand hating or fearing something that you have experienced that you might find offensive, but the NEVER even have read or watched it is just childish and cowardly.

Read the book and then tell me what you think!

The books are the ULTIMATE story of good triumphing over evil!

You would think that a Christian would love that! The magic you are afraid of is ALL OVER the bible!!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10179966


Well, some of us are just smarter thab folk like you. YOu ssee we have seen and experienced things aenough to use common-sense and that some things are not meant to be put in a "light" way. You're a real dumbass if you can't figure out where the power comes from. The whole movie glorifies sorcery and witchcraft. ANd WHY would someone want these kinds of powers and controls? Well, personal histories'accounts history has shown us....that people will use it to decieve, manipulate, steal from other and even murder to take what someone welse has. Envy, and greed are powerful motives. Harry Potter type-stories attracts kids...and people with minds like "kids" to looking up the black arts. They are kindling an interest...that will lead them down that road. One would have to ask YOU...what do you care how others feel? Why is that you THINK you can change the minds of others aganist the wills? Look into the mirror and do some soul searching!
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One point at a time.

Is there not magic and sorcery in the bible done by Jesus?

Turning water into wine. Leaves of bread. Bringing Lazarus back to life. Is that not magic and sorcery?

Just answer this point first.

Then we will talk about the rest.
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Re: What is it about the Harry Potter books/movies that upset everyone so much? Isn't it another story of good overcoming evil?
How many of you afraid fools even know that Harry Potter is the story of Jesus?

He fights evil, dies and is reborn. He does this to save the world! And he does!!!

What is wrong with that story??????

Tell me!!!!!
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The story of Jesus?!!! Man are you one "whacked" tard. HOw can you compare the 2? You can't. Btw, you are so "naive" it is truly unbelievable. He "appears" to be good to drawl in others to this sin. Hitler did things that helped Germany early on for the motherland...we know how that turned-out! The Patriot Act was "supposedly" to protect us...and it is obvious that it was NEVER meant to be for that purpose. Do you really NEED anymore examples?
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How many of you afraid fools even know that Harry Potter is the story of Jesus?

He fights evil, dies and is reborn. He does this to save the world! And he does!!!

What is wrong with that story??????

Tell me!!!!!
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The story of Jesus?!!! Man are you one "whacked" tard. HOw can you compare the 2? You can't. Btw, you are so "naive" it is truly unbelievable. He "appears" to be good to drawl in others to this sin. Hitler did things that helped Germany early on for the motherland...we know how that turned-out! The Patriot Act was "supposedly" to protect us...and it is obvious that it was NEVER meant to be for that purpose. Do you really NEED anymore examples?
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How do you know that it isn't? You never read the books or watched the movies! Right?
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Re: What is it about the Harry Potter books/movies that upset everyone so much? Isn't it another story of good overcoming evil?
Christians see everything in black and white ONLY.
Harry Potter doesn't give credit to god for his
magic.

To a christian there are only two sources for power.
One is God.
The other is Satan.

If Harry doesn't give credit to God for his magic,
he must be in cahoots with the devil.

That's it in a nutshell boys and girls.


No gray area in christian thinking on these matters.



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