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The biggest blunder in the church for years!! The Paul Deception!

 
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The Apostle Paul Was A Deceiver!

He was Satan In The Flesh! An Antichrist!

Matthew 24:4-5 states you will be deceived by people that come using Jesus’ name. Consider the parable of the sower. Jesus was warning us then that as soon as His Gospel was preached, the enemy (Paul) would be there to steal the truth!


***The real (untranslated) name of Jesus is Y'hoshua (pronounced like the name Joshua but with a Y, YoHoshua, some pronounce his name as Yeshua). All refer to the Son of God who came as the promised Messiah who died on the cross for our sins and rose again.

Now before you throw a tantrum and wonder why I haven't been struck by lightening straight from the throne room of God, I can prove to you that Paul was a Fraud using his own words. Of course, if you're a female, and you're in the ministry, you already know he was, you probably just didn't realize it! For to be a female and in the ministry of the Lord, you had to turn your back on Paul to follow Jesus. Congrats! You figured it out! You refused to buy into the lie pie Satan tried to sell you as Paul!

I'm going to make some startling points to wake your mind up into the truth, so hear me out, then I'll go through and explain each one and give you all the proof you need to see for yourself that what I'm saying is indeed the truth.

Paul was Satan in the Flesh

Paul was never recognized as an apostle by the Disciples OR Jesus

Paul was never trained by the disciples, the men who walked, talked, and broke bread with our Saviour. He received his knowledge from "revelations."

Paul's account of his Damascus Road Experience changed every time he told it, thus the disciples knew he was lying.

Paul declared he was teaching another Gospel of which he himself was the Father

Paul declared he himself was the son of God

Paul issued his own commandments and laws for people to adhere to

Paul taught the exact Opposite of what Jesus and His real disciples did.

Paul worked to destroy and undo everything Jesus and His disciples did and were doing.

Paul was never repentant for being the greatest persecutor of Christians at that time! He boasted about it! Over and Over!

Paul said God's law was a Curse. Jesus said it was a blessing. Who's lying?

Paul condemned Jesus and His disciples for false teachings, he condemned Jesus Himself for having long hair in 1 Corinthians 11:14, something approved in Numbers 6:5 and Judges 13:5.

Jesus Said: Keep the Sabbath (Mark 2:27), circumcise male children (Luke 2:21), Paul Said: Circumcision is not necessary (Romans 2:26) that is going against what the Christ said in Luke 2:21.

In 1 Corinthians 15:1 Paul says that he was not giving them anything but what “he preached.” He explained this even further in the second book (or letter) to the Corinthians (2 Corinthians 11:17). It reads - “That which I speak, I speak it not after the Lord, but as it were foolishly, in this confidence of boasting.” He's telling you plain and simple he was speaking of himself and not from or of the Lord!"

Paul cursed Jesus and His disciples

Paul claimed he himself was the son of God

Paul Supported and demanded Adherence to Iniquity (Discrimination), Jesus said to not let it be found among us! Who's lying?
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From biblegateway.com NIV 2Peter 3:14 So then, dear friends, since you are looking forward to this, make every effort to be found spotless, blameless and at peace with him. 15 Bear in mind that our Lord’s patience means salvation, just as our dear brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom that God gave him. 16 He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction.

17 Therefore, dear friends, since you have been forewarned, be on your guard so that you may not be carried away by the error of the lawless and fall from your secure position. 18 But grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and forever! Amen.

So whom should we believe? Someone as scripturally ignorant as yourself or an apostle who had the power to bind and loose things on Heaven and earth vested in him by Christ himself?

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FAUL!

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quit being a damn mexican and read this book

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From biblegateway.com NIV 2Peter 3:14 So then, dear friends, since you are looking forward to this, make every effort to be found spotless, blameless and at peace with him. 15 Bear in mind that our Lord’s patience means salvation, just as our dear brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom that God gave him. 16 He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction.

17 Therefore, dear friends, since you have been forewarned, be on your guard so that you may not be carried away by the error of the lawless and fall from your secure position. 18 But grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and forever! Amen.

So whom should we believe? Someone as scripturally ignorant as yourself or an apostle who had the power to bind and loose things on Heaven and earth vested in him by Christ himself?
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^^^THIS^^^^

Op...you are sadly misinformed in your bible thinking. You may need to take some bible study or classes to understand what you are talking about. You can even take them online!
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God is not retarded and unable to watch over His word. The bible would be utterly corrupted and useless if what OP said were true. It isn't.
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OP, I agree with you. Why do so many refuse to see that Paul was an egomaniac? I love what Paul said in II Corinthians 4:18 but other than that I wonder why he was allowed to take over the teachings like he was another Christ.
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God is not retarded and unable to watch over His word. The bible would be utterly corrupted and useless if what OP said were true. It isn't.
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Yet so much damage has been done under the banner of the Judeo-Christian faiths. God does not come down and correct people who do wrong. If anything, God is absent even when the bible is being twisted or corrupted.
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God is not retarded and unable to watch over His word. The bible would be utterly corrupted and useless if what OP said were true. It isn't.
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Yet so much damage has been done under the banner of the Judeo-Christian faiths. God does not come down and correct people who do wrong. If anything, God is absent even when the bible is being twisted or corrupted.
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You are so blind you cannot see judgment commencing worldwide. As evil seems to take over during this time, God also will be on the move. The restitution of all things, Acts 3:21 is also commencing. This will fulfill, complete the salvation process and Gods people will walk fully as did Adam and Eve before the fall. Jesus said we would do more miracles than even He did when He was walking the earth. This is how God "comes down" until He physically returns and steps down on the Mount of Olives. We are entering into the most amazing time to be a follower of Christ. Join the club, you won't want to miss this. Ask God to "send me the power of the Holy Spirit in the name of Jesus. You'll know it when you get it, you have a knowing.
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The Apostle Paul Was A Deceiver!

He was Satan In The Flesh! An Antichrist!

Matthew 24:4-5 states you will be deceived by people that come using Jesus’ name. Consider the parable of the sower. Jesus was warning us then that as soon as His Gospel was preached, the enemy (Paul) would be there to steal the truth!



Paul said God's law was a Curse. Jesus said it was a blessing. Who's lying?

Paul condemned Jesus and His disciples for false teachings, he condemned Jesus Himself for having long hair in 1 Corinthians 11:14, something approved in Numbers 6:5 and Judges 13:5.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 510799


Interesting comments, people have argued over and discussed these things down through the ages. In a nutshell regarding two of your points:

There are TWO laws - the Ten Commandments, which were written on/in stone by God Himself; and the civic and ceremonial laws, which were put in the ark BESIDE the Ten Commandments and were given by God but written in a BOOK by human Moses. Paul was referring to these "Mosaic" laws. Written by God on STONE, the Ten Commandments cannot be changed. Nowhere in the Bible is there a God-authorized or any other change from Sabbath to Sunday (first day), the seventh-day Sabbath is part of the Ten Commandments (the ceremonial sabbaths are in the Mosaic law and were done away with at the cross). Easy to erase something written on paper; almost impossible if it's on stone.

We do not know the length that Jesus and His disciples wore their hair. Most paintings of Him were done eons ago in a time when long hair for men was fashionable. Don't want to go into much detail, but, yes, according to I Corinthians 11:14, Jesus did not have really long hair. They followed the Bible first and then the fashion of their day.

Thanks for your comments, it's always good to study these things.
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There are TWO laws - the Ten Commandments, which were written on/in stone by God Himself; and the civic and ceremonial laws, which were put in the ark BESIDE the Ten Commandments and were given by God but written in a BOOK by human Moses. Paul was referring to these "Mosaic" laws. Written by God on STONE, the Ten Commandments cannot be changed. Nowhere in the Bible is there a God-authorized or any other change from Sabbath to Sunday (first day), the seventh-day Sabbath is part of the Ten Commandments (the ceremonial sabbaths are in the Mosaic law and were done away with at the cross). Easy to erase something written on paper; almost impossible if it's on stone.

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From biblegateway.com NIV 2Peter 3:14 So then, dear friends, since you are looking forward to this, make every effort to be found spotless, blameless and at peace with him. 15 Bear in mind that our Lord’s patience means salvation, just as our dear brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom that God gave him. 16 He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction.

17 Therefore, dear friends, since you have been forewarned, be on your guard so that you may not be carried away by the error of the lawless and fall from your secure position. 18 But grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and forever! Amen.

So whom should we believe? Someone as scripturally ignorant as yourself or an apostle who had the power to bind and loose things on Heaven and earth vested in him by Christ himself?
 Quoting: Jesus Christ is the way


Paul may well have been trying his best. But I stopped reading his stuff after I got the definite impression that I understood more than he did.

He used to be a prick. He converted, but he has / had a long way to go to understand some things.

I just recommend skipping Paul's letters when reading the NT. That also leaves out most Protestant "evangelism", but heck think of how cheap those TV preachers who push Paul's writing really are anyway, that should be another clue that what they're pushing is not right.
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Hitler arrived at the same conclusion; said as much.
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From biblegateway.com NIV 2Peter 3:14 So then, dear friends, since you are looking forward to this, make every effort to be found spotless, blameless and at peace with him. 15 Bear in mind that our Lord’s patience means salvation, just as our dear brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom that God gave him. 16 He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction.

17 Therefore, dear friends, since you have been forewarned, be on your guard so that you may not be carried away by the error of the lawless and fall from your secure position. 18 But grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and forever! Amen.

So whom should we believe? Someone as scripturally ignorant as yourself or an apostle who had the power to bind and loose things on Heaven and earth vested in him by Christ himself?
 Quoting: Jesus Christ is the way

You quote Paul's own writing.

[link to www.truthseekers.co.za]

"PAUL IS THE MAN OF SIN AND NOW IS HIS TIME TO BE REVEALED!!

This article will prove (YAHWEH WILLING) that Saul-Paul of Tarsus, FALSE Apostle and DESTROYER of the Gentiles, is that ever elusive antichrist that the whole of ChristenDUMB is still looking for. What if I told you, he's been right there under your noses ALL ALONG and the reason why you can't see him for what he is, is because of the ABOVE PASSAGE plus many others, that divert your attention away from the truth? Would you believe the truth, or would you rather cling to your "god" named PAUL and continue following the blind leader, like a blind sheep, straight into the DITCH?

In the Mighty Name of Yahshua Ha Mashiach, may TRUE ISREAL'S EYES BE OPENED and the souls that have been dragged into the Christian net be SET FREE by the TRUTH! Amein!

Saul-Paul of Tarsus was nothing but an EDOMITE, PHARISEE who infiltrated the flock of Yahshua and corrupted it through and through, from the INSIDE and now, 2000 years later, Christians exalt PAUL as the THE greatest apostle of the Lamb who ever lived. In this way, PAUL sits in the Temple of the Most High AS the "god" of Christianity. WOE TO THE TEACHER OF LIES!! WOE TO ALL WHO LOVE HIS LIES! Paul is Satan's spokesman and the one whom Yahshua warned us about, over and over again, in His parables. It's time to wake up Israel and see that YAHWEH IS ABOUT TO POUR OUT HIS WRATH UPON THAT BEAST THAT PAUL BUILT IN HIS NAME! It's time to COME OUT OF HER and get into the shelter of Yah's Almighty Wings because soon, the DOOR WILL CLOSE and NONE SHALL ESCAPE!"
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The Apostle Paul Was A Deceiver!

He was Satan In The Flesh! An Antichrist!

Matthew 24:4-5 states you will be deceived by people that come using Jesus’ name. Consider the parable of the sower. Jesus was warning us then that as soon as His Gospel was preached, the enemy (Paul) would be there to steal the truth!



Paul said God's law was a Curse. Jesus said it was a blessing. Who's lying?

Paul condemned Jesus and His disciples for false teachings, he condemned Jesus Himself for having long hair in 1 Corinthians 11:14, something approved in Numbers 6:5 and Judges 13:5.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 510799


Interesting comments, people have argued over and discussed these things down through the ages. In a nutshell regarding two of your points:

There are TWO laws - the Ten Commandments, which were written on/in stone by God Himself; and the civic and ceremonial laws, which were put in the ark BESIDE the Ten Commandments and were given by God but written in a BOOK by human Moses. Paul was referring to these "Mosaic" laws. Written by God on STONE, the Ten Commandments cannot be changed. Nowhere in the Bible is there a God-authorized or any other change from Sabbath to Sunday (first day), the seventh-day Sabbath is part of the Ten Commandments (the ceremonial sabbaths are in the Mosaic law and were done away with at the cross). Easy to erase something written on paper; almost impossible if it's on stone.

We do not know the length that Jesus and His disciples wore their hair. Most paintings of Him were done eons ago in a time when long hair for men was fashionable. Don't want to go into much detail, but, yes, according to I Corinthians 11:14, Jesus did not have really long hair. They followed the Bible first and then the fashion of their day.

Thanks for your comments, it's always good to study these things.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2268641


Thou shalt not murder.
Thou shalt not steal
Thou shalt not commit adultery.

Please tell me why Our Heavenly Father would write the knowledge of evil within your heart? Reconciliation is to the One True God through His Son Jesus Christ.

He did not write Do Not Murder - He wrote LOVE YOUR BROTHERS. That is the law of Christ and of God that man cannot obey.

You yourselves are our letter, written on our hearts, known and read by everyone. You show that you are a letter from Christ, the result of our ministry, written not with ink but with the Spirit of the living God, not on tablets of stone but on tablets of human hearts.
2 Corinthians 3:2-3
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From biblegateway.com NIV 2Peter 3:14 So then, dear friends, since you are looking forward to this, make every effort to be found spotless, blameless and at peace with him. 15 Bear in mind that our Lord’s patience means salvation, just as our dear brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom that God gave him. 16 He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction.

17 Therefore, dear friends, since you have been forewarned, be on your guard so that you may not be carried away by the error of the lawless and fall from your secure position. 18 But grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and forever! Amen.

So whom should we believe? Someone as scripturally ignorant as yourself or an apostle who had the power to bind and loose things on Heaven and earth vested in him by Christ himself?
 Quoting: Jesus Christ is the way

You quote Paul's own writing.

[link to www.truthseekers.co.za]

"PAUL IS THE MAN OF SIN AND NOW IS HIS TIME TO BE REVEALED!!

This article will prove (YAHWEH WILLING) that Saul-Paul of Tarsus, FALSE Apostle and DESTROYER of the Gentiles, is that ever elusive antichrist that the whole of ChristenDUMB is still looking for. What if I told you, he's been right there under your noses ALL ALONG and the reason why you can't see him for what he is, is because of the ABOVE PASSAGE plus many others, that divert your attention away from the truth? Would you believe the truth, or would you rather cling to your "god" named PAUL and continue following the blind leader, like a blind sheep, straight into the DITCH?

In the Mighty Name of Yahshua Ha Mashiach, may TRUE ISREAL'S EYES BE OPENED and the souls that have been dragged into the Christian net be SET FREE by the TRUTH! Amein!

Saul-Paul of Tarsus was nothing but an EDOMITE, PHARISEE who infiltrated the flock of Yahshua and corrupted it through and through, from the INSIDE and now, 2000 years later, Christians exalt PAUL as the THE greatest apostle of the Lamb who ever lived. In this way, PAUL sits in the Temple of the Most High AS the "god" of Christianity. WOE TO THE TEACHER OF LIES!! WOE TO ALL WHO LOVE HIS LIES! Paul is Satan's spokesman and the one whom Yahshua warned us about, over and over again, in His parables. It's time to wake up Israel and see that YAHWEH IS ABOUT TO POUR OUT HIS WRATH UPON THAT BEAST THAT PAUL BUILT IN HIS NAME! It's time to COME OUT OF HER and get into the shelter of Yah's Almighty Wings because soon, the DOOR WILL CLOSE and NONE SHALL ESCAPE!"
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“You do not know me or my Father,” Jesus replied. “If you knew me, you would know my Father also.” 20He spoke these words while teaching in the temple courts near the place where the offerings were put. Yet no one seized him, because his hour had not yet come.

42Jesus said to them, “If God were your Father, you would love me, for I have come here from God. I have not come on my own; God sent me. 43Why is my language not clear to you? Because you are unable to hear what I say. 44You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies. 45Yet because I tell the truth, you do not believe me! 46Can any of you prove me guilty of sin? If I am telling the truth, why don’t you believe me? 47Whoever belongs to God hears what God says. The reason you do not hear is that you do not belong to God.”

Paul built no such beast. You blaspheme the gospel of Christ and the gospel of God for the very reason Jesus gave to the Jews above - you do not hear.

Those who say "I follow Paul" or "I follow Apollos" are YET CARNAL.
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From biblegateway.com NIV 2Peter 3:14 So then, dear friends, since you are looking forward to this, make every effort to be found spotless, blameless and at peace with him. 15 Bear in mind that our Lord’s patience means salvation, just as our dear brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom that God gave him. 16 He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction.

17 Therefore, dear friends, since you have been forewarned, be on your guard so that you may not be carried away by the error of the lawless and fall from your secure position. 18 But grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and forever! Amen.

So whom should we believe? Someone as scripturally ignorant as yourself or an apostle who had the power to bind and loose things on Heaven and earth vested in him by Christ himself?
 Quoting: Jesus Christ is the way

You quote Paul's own writing.

[link to www.truthseekers.co.za]

"PAUL IS THE MAN OF SIN AND NOW IS HIS TIME TO BE REVEALED!!

This article will prove (YAHWEH WILLING) that Saul-Paul of Tarsus, FALSE Apostle and DESTROYER of the Gentiles, is that ever elusive antichrist that the whole of ChristenDUMB is still looking for. What if I told you, he's been right there under your noses ALL ALONG and the reason why you can't see him for what he is, is because of the ABOVE PASSAGE plus many others, that divert your attention away from the truth? Would you believe the truth, or would you rather cling to your "god" named PAUL and continue following the blind leader, like a blind sheep, straight into the DITCH?

In the Mighty Name of Yahshua Ha Mashiach, may TRUE ISREAL'S EYES BE OPENED and the souls that have been dragged into the Christian net be SET FREE by the TRUTH! Amein!

Saul-Paul of Tarsus was nothing but an EDOMITE, PHARISEE who infiltrated the flock of Yahshua and corrupted it through and through, from the INSIDE and now, 2000 years later, Christians exalt PAUL as the THE greatest apostle of the Lamb who ever lived. In this way, PAUL sits in the Temple of the Most High AS the "god" of Christianity. WOE TO THE TEACHER OF LIES!! WOE TO ALL WHO LOVE HIS LIES! Paul is Satan's spokesman and the one whom Yahshua warned us about, over and over again, in His parables. It's time to wake up Israel and see that YAHWEH IS ABOUT TO POUR OUT HIS WRATH UPON THAT BEAST THAT PAUL BUILT IN HIS NAME! It's time to COME OUT OF HER and get into the shelter of Yah's Almighty Wings because soon, the DOOR WILL CLOSE and NONE SHALL ESCAPE!"
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So you consider the word of a layman over the endorsement of Peter? Go back and read what I posted, and take heed of what it says.
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The Apostle Paul Was A Deceiver!

He was Satan In The Flesh! An Antichrist!

Matthew 24:4-5 states you will be deceived by people that come using Jesus’ name. Consider the parable of the sower. Jesus was warning us then that as soon as His Gospel was preached, the enemy (Paul) would be there to steal the truth!



Paul said God's law was a Curse. Jesus said it was a blessing. Who's lying?

Paul condemned Jesus and His disciples for false teachings, he condemned Jesus Himself for having long hair in 1 Corinthians 11:14, something approved in Numbers 6:5 and Judges 13:5.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 510799


Interesting comments, people have argued over and discussed these things down through the ages. In a nutshell regarding two of your points:

There are TWO laws - the Ten Commandments, which were written on/in stone by God Himself; and the civic and ceremonial laws, which were put in the ark BESIDE the Ten Commandments and were given by God but written in a BOOK by human Moses. Paul was referring to these "Mosaic" laws. Written by God on STONE, the Ten Commandments cannot be changed. Nowhere in the Bible is there a God-authorized or any other change from Sabbath to Sunday (first day), the seventh-day Sabbath is part of the Ten Commandments (the ceremonial sabbaths are in the Mosaic law and were done away with at the cross). Easy to erase something written on paper; almost impossible if it's on stone.

We do not know the length that Jesus and His disciples wore their hair. Most paintings of Him were done eons ago in a time when long hair for men was fashionable. Don't want to go into much detail, but, yes, according to I Corinthians 11:14, Jesus did not have really long hair. They followed the Bible first and then the fashion of their day.

Thanks for your comments, it's always good to study these things.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2268641


Thou shalt not murder.
Thou shalt not steal
Thou shalt not commit adultery.

Please tell me why Our Heavenly Father would write the knowledge of evil within your heart? Reconciliation is to the One True God through His Son Jesus Christ.

He did not write Do Not Murder - He wrote LOVE YOUR BROTHERS. That is the law of Christ and of God that man cannot obey.

You yourselves are our letter, written on our hearts, known and read by everyone. You show that you are a letter from Christ, the result of our ministry, written not with ink but with the Spirit of the living God, not on tablets of stone but on tablets of human hearts.
2 Corinthians 3:2-3
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Matthew 5:17 - Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
Matthew 5:18 - For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
Matthew 5:19 - Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
What are 'these least commandments' from? From the law that Yahushua was talking about! The same law He said he didn't come to destroy. So plain! So clear!
Let's press on to be called great and blessed of Yahweh in the kingdom of heaven

We must take this message to all nations and expose the grand deception. Not all will hear, but Yahushua said we should!
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He relates this to what Paul has often written:
..even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;
Paul's writings are full of wisdom in this matter of what Yahushua has done and how it relates to us
Over and over again, Paul defends the work of Yahushua the Messiah as being our only hope and our only true source of being justified or being declared righteous.

However, Paul is often misunderstood and Kepha/Peter knew that well

2Pet 3:16 As also in all [his] epistles, speaking in them of these things;
"...in which are some things hard to be understood,"
What things? "The longsuffering of our our Master is salvation"
This is so true and many agree that this wisdom that Yahweh gave Paul is often hard to understand

According to Kepha, His writings can easily be twisted/wrested/turned around/perverted/distorted by those who are "unlearned and unstable".

" which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as [they do] also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction."
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From biblegateway.com NIV 2Peter 3:14 So then, dear friends, since you are looking forward to this, make every effort to be found spotless, blameless and at peace with him. 15 Bear in mind that our Lord’s patience means salvation, just as our dear brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom that God gave him. 16 He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction.

17 Therefore, dear friends, since you have been forewarned, be on your guard so that you may not be carried away by the error of the lawless and fall from your secure position. 18 But grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and forever! Amen.

So whom should we believe? Someone as scripturally ignorant as yourself or an apostle who had the power to bind and loose things on Heaven and earth vested in him by Christ himself?
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You're right OP but take the next step and realize Yawheh, Jehovah, Creator God is also Satan. All you have to do is read the Old Testament with open eyes to see that he is the Evil One.
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It's funny how many supposed true Christians seem to have as their chief purpose "accusing the brethren." Imagine that.
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OP,

Please QUOTE some examples of what you say is Paul's "Satanic deception."
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The Apostle Paul Was A Deceiver!

He was Satan In The Flesh! An Antichrist!

Matthew 24:4-5 states you will be deceived by people that come using Jesus’ name. Consider the parable of the sower. Jesus was warning us then that as soon as His Gospel was preached, the enemy (Paul) would be there to steal the truth!


***The real (untranslated) name of Jesus is Y'hoshua (pronounced like the name Joshua but with a Y, YoHoshua, some pronounce his name as Yeshua). All refer to the Son of God who came as the promised Messiah who died on the cross for our sins and rose again.

Now before you throw a tantrum and wonder why I haven't been struck by lightening straight from the throne room of God, I can prove to you that Paul was a Fraud using his own words. Of course, if you're a female, and you're in the ministry, you already know he was, you probably just didn't realize it! For to be a female and in the ministry of the Lord, you had to turn your back on Paul to follow Jesus. Congrats! You figured it out! You refused to buy into the lie pie Satan tried to sell you as Paul!

I'm going to make some startling points to wake your mind up into the truth, so hear me out, then I'll go through and explain each one and give you all the proof you need to see for yourself that what I'm saying is indeed the truth.

Paul was Satan in the Flesh

Paul was never recognized as an apostle by the Disciples OR Jesus

Paul was never trained by the disciples, the men who walked, talked, and broke bread with our Saviour. He received his knowledge from "revelations."

Paul's account of his Damascus Road Experience changed every time he told it, thus the disciples knew he was lying.

Paul declared he was teaching another Gospel of which he himself was the Father

Paul declared he himself was the son of God

Paul issued his own commandments and laws for people to adhere to

Paul taught the exact Opposite of what Jesus and His real disciples did.

Paul worked to destroy and undo everything Jesus and His disciples did and were doing.

Paul was never repentant for being the greatest persecutor of Christians at that time! He boasted about it! Over and Over!

Paul said God's law was a Curse. Jesus said it was a blessing. Who's lying?

Paul condemned Jesus and His disciples for false teachings, he condemned Jesus Himself for having long hair in 1 Corinthians 11:14, something approved in Numbers 6:5 and Judges 13:5.

Jesus Said: Keep the Sabbath (Mark 2:27), circumcise male children (Luke 2:21), Paul Said: Circumcision is not necessary (Romans 2:26) that is going against what the Christ said in Luke 2:21.

In 1 Corinthians 15:1 Paul says that he was not giving them anything but what “he preached.” He explained this even further in the second book (or letter) to the Corinthians (2 Corinthians 11:17). It reads - “That which I speak, I speak it not after the Lord, but as it were foolishly, in this confidence of boasting.” He's telling you plain and simple he was speaking of himself and not from or of the Lord!"

Paul cursed Jesus and His disciples

Paul claimed he himself was the son of God

Paul Supported and demanded Adherence to Iniquity (Discrimination), Jesus said to not let it be found among us! Who's lying?
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Paul was not a deceiver, his writings are just misinterpreted and wrongly taught. His writings were actually for church leaders. They weren't meant to be in the bible. It seems you don't understand Paul's writings either. He uses a lot of metaphors.

Romans 7:7 What shall we say, then? Is the law sinful? Certainly not! Nevertheless, I would not have known what sin was had it not been for the law. For I would not have known what coveting really was if the law had not said, “You shall not covet.”

In 2 Peter 3:16: Peter says anyone who misuses Paul's teachings are creating their own destruction. The apostles all acknowledged Paul and accepted him.

If you don't have a very good understanding of scripture, you'll be confused by Paul's writings. And it just so happens that those are the first books the Church goes to without teaching the others first.
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You're right OP but take the next step and realize Yawheh, Jehovah, Creator God is also Satan. All you have to do is read the Old Testament with open eyes to see that he is the Evil One.
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Uh, no. Yahweh isn't God's name. Neither is Jehovah etc. Thats Satan. God's name is Hayah.

Apparently you have no understanding of sin or anything written in the OT.
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op is correct. in that paul said and did these things you have to remember at this point in history the barbarians were running amuck in the mountains. and becoming a serious thorne in romes side. and needed to unite .matthew mark luke and the fictional character paul are pin names .
written by the piso family. josphvs flaviovs you have knowelege of him . matthew mark and luke are not Hebrew names. neither is jesus.
look up piso family and new testament what your preachers clearly do not want you to know.
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You're right OP but take the next step and realize Yawheh, Jehovah, Creator God is also Satan. All you have to do is read the Old Testament with open eyes to see that he is the Evil One.
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Uh, no. Yahweh isn't God's name. Neither is Jehovah etc. Thats Satan. God's name is Hayah.

Apparently you have no understanding of sin or anything written in the OT.
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That's what I said, then you said no and repeated it back to me. WTF?
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op is correct. in that paul said and did these things you have to remember at this point in history the barbarians were running amuck in the mountains. and becoming a serious thorne in romes side. and needed to unite .matthew mark luke and the fictional character paul are pin names .
written by the piso family. josphvs flaviovs you have knowelege of him . matthew mark and luke are not Hebrew names. neither is jesus.
look up piso family and new testament what your preachers clearly do not want you to know.
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Luke, Matthew, Mark etc are Hebrew names. They're just translated. Matthew comes from Mattityahu etc. Jesus however, is NOT a Hebrew name. There is no translation for it.
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The Apostle Paul Was A Deceiver!

He was Satan In The Flesh! An Antichrist!

Matthew 24:4-5 states you will be deceived by people that come using Jesus’ name. Consider the parable of the sower. Jesus was warning us then that as soon as His Gospel was preached, the enemy (Paul) would be there to steal the truth!



Paul said God's law was a Curse. Jesus said it was a blessing. Who's lying?

Paul condemned Jesus and His disciples for false teachings, he condemned Jesus Himself for having long hair in 1 Corinthians 11:14, something approved in Numbers 6:5 and Judges 13:5.
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Interesting comments, people have argued over and discussed these things down through the ages. In a nutshell regarding two of your points:

There are TWO laws - the Ten Commandments, which were written on/in stone by God Himself; and the civic and ceremonial laws, which were put in the ark BESIDE the Ten Commandments and were given by God but written in a BOOK by human Moses. Paul was referring to these "Mosaic" laws. Written by God on STONE, the Ten Commandments cannot be changed. Nowhere in the Bible is there a God-authorized or any other change from Sabbath to Sunday (first day), the seventh-day Sabbath is part of the Ten Commandments (the ceremonial sabbaths are in the Mosaic law and were done away with at the cross). Easy to erase something written on paper; almost impossible if it's on stone.

We do not know the length that Jesus and His disciples wore their hair. Most paintings of Him were done eons ago in a time when long hair for men was fashionable. Don't want to go into much detail, but, yes, according to I Corinthians 11:14, Jesus did not have really long hair. They followed the Bible first and then the fashion of their day.

Thanks for your comments, it's always good to study these things.
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took god 40 days to write them in stone..hmmmm...maybe somebody did it with a chisel..hmmmm...wonder who..yoda
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Paul was a slave to sin.
Paul is where we get the idea of a rapture THAT WILL NEVER HAPPEN.
Paul and WE ( including Himself) who remain shall be caught up together.
Well did they get caught up?
Yeah caught up in a lie.
Good work OP.
Cheers
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OP,

Please QUOTE some examples of what you say is Paul's "Satanic deception."

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