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Message Subject The biggest blunder in the church for years!! The Paul Deception!
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Interesting comments, people have argued over and discussed these things down through the ages. In a nutshell regarding two of your points:

There are TWO laws - the Ten Commandments, which were written on/in stone by God Himself; and the civic and ceremonial laws, which were put in the ark BESIDE the Ten Commandments and were given by God but written in a BOOK by human Moses. Paul was referring to these "Mosaic" laws. Written by God on STONE, the Ten Commandments cannot be changed. Nowhere in the Bible is there a God-authorized or any other change from Sabbath to Sunday (first day), the seventh-day Sabbath is part of the Ten Commandments (the ceremonial sabbaths are in the Mosaic law and were done away with at the cross). Easy to erase something written on paper; almost impossible if it's on stone.

We do not know the length that Jesus and His disciples wore their hair. Most paintings of Him were done eons ago in a time when long hair for men was fashionable. Don't want to go into much detail, but, yes, according to I Corinthians 11:14, Jesus did not have really long hair. They followed the Bible first and then the fashion of their day.

Thanks for your comments, it's always good to study these things.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2268641


No, there is only 1 law and it's 613 commandments. Certain things don't apply anymore because Israel isn't in their land. And Jesus was our sacrifice so ceremonial sacrifices aren't needed anymore etc.

"Ceremonial laws were done away with" Thats false because you're not suppose to eat pork. In Genesis Noah was aware of clean & unclean animals before the laws were even written down.
 Quoting: Alexander The Great


I do not eat pork, I am a vegetarian (see Genesis 1:29 for what God wants us to eat). Yes, Noah knew this as well. AND... the pork/shellfish thing is not in the ceremonial law, it is in the dietary law. There were three sets of Mosaic laws: ceremonial, civic, dietary.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2268641


Yeah thats what I meant. But you don't necessarily have to be a vegetarian now. Meat is permitted by God. But yes, pork and shellfish are forbidden. All Abrahamic religions agree on this. It's only Christians who deny it.
 Quoting: Alexander The Great


Wouldn't what I posted tend to argue otherwise? Are you saying Christians shouldn't eat pork or shellfish? If so ,can you justify it from scripture?

"Abrahamic faiths"? Are you like these people in John 1:31?“If YOU remain in my word,+ YOU are really my disciples, 32 and YOU will know the truth,+ and the truth will set YOU free.”+ 33 They replied to him: “We are Abraham’s offspring*+ and never have we been slaves to anybody.+ How is it you say, ‘YOU will become free’?"
They were claiming that made them superior . Jesus told them they weren't even Abraham's children, because they didn't do the works befitting faith in Jehovah, as Abraham had done.

I'll repost this in hopes you'll respond this time. [and since you're apparently no longer responding to what I say, think I'll take this opp'y to go to bed.]


Acts 1:9 The next day as they were pursuing their journey and were approaching the city, Peter went up to the housetop+ about the sixth hour* to pray.+ 10 But he became very hungry and wanted to eat. While they were preparing, he fell into a trance+ 11 and beheld heaven opened+ and some sort of vessel descending like a great linen sheet being let down by its four extremities upon the earth; 12 and in it there were all sorts of four-footed creatures and creeping things of the earth and birds of heaven.+ 13 And a voice came to him: “Rise, Peter, slaughter* and eat!”+ 14 But Peter said: “Not at all, Lord, because never have I eaten anything defiled and unclean.”+ 15 And the voice [spoke] again to him, the second time: “You stop calling defiled+ the things God has cleansed.” 16 This occurred a third time, and immediately the vessel was taken up into heaven.+

acts 15:3... these men continued on their way through both Phoe·nicia and Sa·mari·a, relating in detail the conversion* of people of the nations,+ and they were causing great joy to all the brothers.+ 4 On arriving in Jerusalem they were kindly received+ by the congregation and the apostles and the older men, and they recounted the many things God had done by means of them.+ 5 Yet, some of those of the sect of the Pharisees that had believed rose up from their seats and said: “It is necessary to circumcise them+ and charge them to observe the law of Moses.”+

6 And the apostles and the older men gathered together to see about this affair.+ 7 Now when much disputing+ had taken place, Peter rose and said to them: “Men, brothers, YOU well know that from early days God made the choice among YOU that through my mouth people of the nations should hear the word of the good news and believe;+ 8 and God, who knows the heart,+ bore witness by giving them the holy spirit,+ just as he did to us also. 9 And he made no distinction at all between us and them,+ but purified their hearts by faith.+ 10 Now, therefore, why are YOU making a test of God by imposing upon the neck of the disciples a yoke+ that neither our forefathers nor we were capable of bearing?+ 11 On the contrary, we trust to get saved through the undeserved kindness+ of the Lord Jesus in the same way as those people also.”+

12 At that the entire multitude became silent, and they began to listen to Barna·bas and Paul relate the many signs and portents that God did through them among the nations.+ 13 After they quit speaking, James answered, saying: “Men, brothers, hear me.+ 14 Syme·on*+ has related thoroughly how God for the first time turned his attention to the nations to take out of them a people for his name.+ 15 And with this the words of the Prophets agree, just as it is written, 16 ‘After these things I shall return and rebuild the booth* of David that is fallen down; and I shall rebuild its ruins and erect it again,+ 17 in order that those who remain of the men may earnestly seek Jehovah,* together with people of all the nations, people who are called by my name,* says Jehovah,* who is doing these things,+ 18 known from of old.’*+ 19 Hence my decision is not to trouble those from the nations who are turning to God,+ 20 but to write them to abstain* from things polluted by idols+ and from fornication*+ and from what is strangled*+ and from blood.*+ 21 For from ancient times* Moses has had in city after city those who preach him, because he is read aloud in the synagogues on every sabbath.”+
 
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