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Message Subject The biggest blunder in the church for years!! The Paul Deception!
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All you have to do to resolve this issue is to explain what this statement means and how it relates to the previous statements.

But don't start at the end of the reply.

Start at the beginning, by explaining what Jesus means by the statement "You are wrong."

That's all you have to do.

You can throw stones all day long against the Truth; but, until you explain precisely where I am in error--until you can explain the flow of the argument and the specific relevance of each thing Jesus says--it is of no avail.

Michael
 Quoting: 4Q529


1. You are in error because you do not know the power of God, or
You are in error because you do not know the scriptures
2. Sadducees did not believe in resurrection
3. Sadducees gave him an example concerning the physical
resurrection of the dead, 7 brothers married to 1 woman.
4. Sadducees, who did not believe in resurrection, asked Jesus whose wife she will be upon resurrection
5. He confirms resurrection
He denies the resurrection to involve marriage
30At the resurrection people will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven
6. He denies that they are dead to God. When He told Moses (after the physical deaths of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob) that "I am the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac and the God of Jacob" He was confirming that to God - Abraham, Isaac and Jacob were still living, not dead. Their physical bodies had long returned to the dust, but they themselves still lived.

We see this in the example and why Moses commanded that a brother of a dead man was to marry the widow and raise up children for his dead brother. The woman spiritually was one with the dead husband, and therefore any children born to the brother are still the dead brothers lineage. In this manner, as the author of creation, every person living in the 'mind' of God comes into this world. Just because one brother dies does not mean that his descendants do not come forth into the world. They do.

God is a God of the Living because like Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, at the time of Moses, long after their physical death, they still are living. He is still their God. And they will receive a new body, what that will be we do not know, but just as we see that Jesus showed a body after resurrection which was somehow different, those too in Christ will receive such.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45557573

Most excellent response. Thorough and Biblically-sound. The benefit will be for someone else however, because 4q529 will have none of it. There is no point in answering his questions. They are not questions. They are self-assertions.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45595821


"Biblically-sound" means NOTHING when Paul contradicts Jesus.

Let me tell you something.

The last time I met so many sniveling cowards all in one place was when I challenged the Jesus Seminar to a private debate on the Doctrine of "resurrection" in October, 1986--people are never allowed to address the general meeting; but, somehow, I convinced the moderator.

There was a murmur around the room and I was then asked "What is the other side of the argument?" by a Ph.D. theologian from Texas.

I told him: "The Truth. That Jesus presents a figurative description of the revelation of the memories of previous lives in his reply to the Sadducees"; then telling them that I would wager some $8,000 that they would lose the debate...even though they would be the ones to decide who had won.

They declined, but...

Some 11 years later, Marcus Borg, a founding member of the Jesus Seminar that I had addressed that day, wrote a book entitled Jesus and Buddha--the Parallel Sayings (look it up) in which he wrote that the similarity between the Teaching of Jesus and the teaching of the Buddha most probably derived 'from a similarity in religious experience'--his words; but never once acknowledging my statements to him from 1986. (What that 'similarity' was was the receiving of the memories of previous lives--duhhhh.)

You Christians--every one of you--remind me of the Cardinal who was so terrified that he refused even to look through Galileo's telescope, calling it an "instrument of the devil".

You Christians are terrified of looking too closely and carefully at the reply of Jesus to the Sadducees. You are nothing but sniveling cowards.

Michael
 Quoting: 4Q529



While I'm not 100% with you in your theology (if you could link or provide some good books I would love to read up on it), I admire your openness and willingness to question the Christian doctrine. I often disagree with Christians because I was not brought up Christian, but studied it from an outsider perspective, so I was never exposed to the usual expositions from pastors or priests.
 
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