The biggest blunder in the church for years!! The Paul Deception!

Most Christians need to understand... it all goes over their heads. Instead, I tell them...

How utterly pathetic you Christians are. You have never had an original idea in your entire life. You have the IDIOT Christian religious 'authorities' do your 'THINKING' for you; and, then, you just believe what you are TOLD to believe, just like the defendants at Nuremberg did what they were TOLD to do. You can't say ANYTHING that has not already been said or written by an IDIOT Christian religious 'authority'. You are nothing more than robots following your programming. So, let me tell you something else you won't believe: If someone put a mallet in your hand and placed you on Calvary at the time of the crucifixion, you would be required by Christian theology to torture Jesus to death in order to get your sorry 'donkey' into heaven...in order to keep from burning forever in hell. This is the person you say that you 'love'.

Are you KIDDING me?

A person that you would, without any hesitation whatsoever, TORTURE to death to save your SORRY 'donkey'.

So, DON'T tell me that Christianity is any religion of "love" any more than Islam is a religion of "peace".

Of course any of us reading your words are free to do our own surmising regarding the sincerity of the "righteous indignation" you seem at pains to portray.

Now that you guys have got it really figured out, who do you say that Jesus Christ is?

After years of weighing both sides with lots of daily prayer on the subject, I've settled on the side that Paul was false. I would not say that my ideas about Paul are "preconceived" - I would say they were very, very carefully considered.

27752111, Here is a long list of quotes from Paul through most of his writings:

[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

Do you object to any of these, and if so, why?

Thank you! The Pharisees followed what is called the oral law, the law of man, or the law of the elders. This became the Talmud, which modern Jews follow because they are Pharisees. Jesus condemned them for this, for twisting the laws of the Father.

Acts 9: 15 Go for he (Paul) , is a chosen vessel of MINE, to bear my name among the gentiles kings, and the children of Israel. This is in red in my bible, spoken by our LORD. You must remember that until JESUS CHRIST went to the cross, the law was what they were going by. After the cross of JESUS it is GRACE and FAITH that is taught. When you accept CHRIST, you have a change in your heart and the HOLY SPIRIT will guide you to be the best you can be. Praise GOD. You are no longer under the law but GRACE. Yes, I believe Paul because the LORD said he was HIS chosen vessel.

On the other hand, re the words translated "congregation",
"To everything the is a season, and a time to every purpose under heaven."
You might say, there was a time to DE-congregate from the accustomed place of assembly for the "congregated throngs".:

“When you catch sight of the disgusting thing that causes desolation, as spoken of through Daniel the prophet, standing in a holy place, . . . then let those in Judea begin fleeing to the mountains.” (Matt. 24:15, 16) But how would Jesus’ followers recognize when this prophecy was being fulfilled?

14 As events unfolded, the meaning of Jesus’ words became clear. In 66 C.E., Roman armies under Cestius Gallus arrived in Jerusalem to quell a Jewish rebellion. When the Jewish rebels, known as the Zealots, sought refuge inside the temple fortress, Roman soldiers began to undermine the temple wall. For alert Christians, the meaning was plain to see: A pagan army with its idolatrous standards (“the disgusting thing”) got as far as the temple wall (“a holy place”). It was time for Jesus’ followers to “begin fleeing to the mountains.” But how would they get out of a city that was under siege? Events were about to take an unexpected turn.

15 For no apparent reason, Cestius Gallus and his troops withdrew from Jerusalem and began retreating. The Zealots gave chase. With the warring parties away, Jesus’ followers suddenly had an opportunity to flee. Jesus had specifically instructed them to leave their material possessions behind and depart without delay. (Read Matthew 24:17, 18.) Was prompt action really necessary? The answer soon became clear. Within days, the Zealots returned and began forcing the inhabitants of Jerusalem and Judea to join the rebellion. Conditions within the city rapidly deteriorated as rival Jewish factions struggled for control. Flight became increasingly difficult. When the Romans returned in 70 C.E., flight became impossible. (Luke 19:43) Any who had lingered were trapped! For the Christians who had fled to the mountains, heeding Jesus’ instructions meant saving their lives." [link to wol.jw.org]

This isn't preterism- saying it's all already happened, b/c also expecting a further fulfillment in the "great tribulation."
I hope someone can figure out 1.that, and if so, then 2.how this might apply to subject under discussion.

Right now I have to go see about someone just taken to hospital very ill.

This is really interesting! I didn't even think anyone would think it applied to the topic, let alone that it would be grist for your mill, so to speak, and you'd have an answer all ready. I haven't read all the scriptures you mentioned yet, but I will. I've read all of Matthew 21 and this is the verse that I'd most like to point out to you-
Act 21:29 For they had previously seen Trophi·mus+ the E·phesian in the city with him, but they were imagining Paul had brought him into the temple. "Imagining"

Also [don't know what to leave out]-

Acts 21:3 After coming in sight of the island of Cyprus+ we left it behind on the left side and sailed on to Syria,+ and landed at Tyre, for there the boat was to unload [its] cargo.+ 4 By a search we found the disciples and remained here seven days. But through the spirit+ they repeatedly told Paul not to set foot in Jerusalem. 5 So when we had completed the days, we went forth and started on our way; but they all, together with the women and children, conducted us as far as outside the city. And kneeling+ down on the beach we had prayer 6 and said good-bye+ to one another, and we went up into the boat but they returned to their homes.

7 We then completed the voyage from Tyre and arrived at Ptol·e·mais, and we greeted the brothers and stayed one day with them. 8 The next day we set out and arrived in Caes·a·rea,+ and we entered into the house of Philip the evangelizer,* who was one of the seven men,+ and we stayed with him. 9 This man had four daughters, virgins, that prophesied.+ 10 But while we were remaining quite a number of days, a certain prophet named Aga·bus+ came down from Ju·dea, 11 and he came to us and took up the girdle of Paul, bound his own feet and hands and said: “Thus says the holy spirit, ‘The man to whom this girdle belongs the Jews will bind+ in this manner in Jerusalem and deliver+ into the hands of people of the nations.’” 12 Now when we heard this, both we and those of that place began entreating him not to go+ up to Jerusalem. 13 Then Paul answered: “What are YOU doing by weeping+ and making me weak at heart?+ Rest assured, I am ready not only to be bound but also to die+ at Jerusalem for the name of the Lord Jesus.” 14 When he would not be dissuaded, we acquiesced with the words: “Let the will+ of Jehovah* take place.”

So Paul agreed with what the holy spirit told those first guys , but later things change and it's different people begging him not to go, but a prophet is telling him what will happen. -Reminds me of Jesus [prophesying] telling disciples what must happen to him, and Peter urging him,"Be good to yourself master! You will not have this fate at all!" And Jesus tells him "Get behind me Satan!"

Anyway the whole of chapter 21 sounds like the locals in Jerusalem were all screaming and running around like chickens with their heads cut off, giving a pretty good impression of being animated by a spirit of confusion, rather than the Holy Spirit.

If they only imagined Trophimus came into the Temple then that Ezekiel 44 wouldn't apply would it?

I'm very interested to read about more of what you've said, but have to leave again rt now.
Thanks for kind wishes and prayer.

God didn't destroyed Judas and many others.

God gave us a choice and the way to express our love to Him.

We will be judged by our works, not by our faith. That's why most of us has written God's Law in hearts. That's the corner stone of salvation.

Pharisee Paul is an excuse to this type of Christians, who have an attitude of typical lawyers.

Lawyers are usually a serpent seed and they use law crafty way to make a guilty an innocent man. That's how most christian churches are working, because they are based strictly on twisted letters of Paul.

So God has allowed this to happened and He will choose his people in the basis of our attitude towards Christ words and Paul's words.

Christ words are strict, while Paul gives us many way to sing and say that eventually God will have mercy on all of us.

And that is a green light to many sins!

User ID: 27752111

Do you have a web page or a blog? I would like to know you better! :D

Michael...I don't think you are far off. I will have to read some of your stuff when I get some free time.


Just leaving one verse from the Gospel of Philip:


And so he dwells either in this world or in the resurrection or in the middle place. God forbid that I be found in there! In this world, there is good and evil. Its good things are not good, and its evil things not evil. But there is evil after this world which is truly evil - what is called "the middle". It is death. While we are in this world, it is fitting for us to acquire the resurrection, so that when we strip off the flesh, we may be found in rest and not walk in the middle. For many go astray on the way. For it is good to come forth from the world before one has sinned.

Please tell me how terrible I am. You please tell me how I contradict every doctrine of Christ.

Also, please tell us how superb YOU are and how YOU uphold, exemplify ane embody every doctrine of Christ.

Judge me, master...


Discernment of the spirit. The demonic recoil at the name of Jesus Christ.


"To live is Christ and to die is gain."


What a remarkable man chosen and used by God. I look forward to meeting him. I'm sure you would not want to be there...

THE TWO OF YOU "ARGUING" over this thread does nothing but bring "contention" to the rest of "the body" of believers. STOP right now!!

You teach the doctrine of a metaphysical 'heaven' and 'hell'. That is contradicted by Chapter 28 of Deuteronomy.

You teach that Jesus was 'God'. That is a violation of the first Commandment.

You teach the doctrine of a metaphysical 'soul', a doctrine which was not received through Revelation, but originates in pagan metaphysical philosophy and exists in Hinduism, for example.

You teach that Jesus "died for your sins", which is a violation of the Doctrine of the Righteousness of God which permeates the Torah and the Prophets.

You can't tell me what are the two assumptions made by the Sadducees in asking their question. Granted, you know the second assumption--that there is such a thing as marriage in "the resurrection"; but you do not know the first assumption, because you don't know how to think.

But worst of all, if you were on Calvary at the moment of the crucifixion, and no one could be found to nail Jesus to the cross, you would be required to do it, knowing that you would burn for eternity in hell if you did NOT do it.

That is what you mean when you say that you 'love' Jesus: that you would be willing to torture him to death to get yourself into the metaphysical 'heaven' which does not even exist. In other words, you would be willing to torture him to death for nothing.

Now, was Paul "chosen and used by God"?

Of course he was.

Just like Hitler was.

Paul's mission was to pervert the Teaching of Jesus as much as possible so it would be acceptable to those who already believed in Roman idolatry and pagan metaphysical philosophy. Without that perversion, you would never even have heard the name Jesus.

But, as has been Prophesied, it is now time for the Truth of the Revelations received by Daniel to be unsealed; chief among them being that the Doctrine of "resurrection"--the Doctrine which Jesus was murdered for teaching--is a Doctrine of 'Rebirth'.

Michael

...there is no such thing as what Christians call "salvation".
Jesus was not 'God'.
He could not "die for your sins".

But, as has been Prophesied, it is now time for the Truth of the Revelations received by Daniel to be unsealed; chief among them being that the Doctrine of "resurrection"--the Doctrine which Jesus was murdered for teaching--is a Doctrine of 'Rebirth'.

Michael

Michael (as Prophesied)

4Q529 Michael is antichrist.

...there is no such thing as what Christians call "salvation".
Jesus was not 'God'.
He could not "die for your sins".

It might be appropriate at this time to shift from a discussion of the "biggest blunder" in terms of the Teaching of Jesus and the teaching of Paul to the "biggest blunder" in the history of human civilization: the initiation of the "time of trouble" by the confrontation between the alliance of the "king of the South" (the United States and its allies) and the alliance of the "king of the North" (Russia and its allies), which is being discussed on the threads about Syria.

See, also:

[link to unsealing-the-seven-seals.blogspot.com]

Michael (as Prophesied)

And you wonder why you weren't taken seriously by Christians and brought onto Christian shows?

...and extol yourself.

So you accuse me...