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The "resurgence" of ELECTROSHOCK THERAPY

 
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The "resurgence" of ELECTROSHOCK THERAPY
Fort Myers, Florida (News-Press) -- The patients are rolled on gurneys into a small screened-off area at Park Royal Hospital every 15 minutes with assembly line regularity.

One is a woman in her 60s, who, like the others, gets a momentary jolt of electricity sent through her head, causing a brain seizure and her body to tense for several seconds. The hope: That this treatment - the electroconvulsive, or "electro-shock," therapy - will ease the symptoms of her bipolar disorder that has so far not responded well to drugs.

The procedure, one of thousands performed at Park Royal since the 76-bed hospital opened last year, has worked on the woman in the past, says Dr. Ivan Mazzorana, who performs all of them on patients here. And, he said, it's likely to do so again.

These days, the treatment goes by its more clinical-sounding acronym, "ECT."

"When you bring it up, most people say, 'Oh my God! Not ECT, that's something from the past,'" Mazzorana said. "It's a very simple procedure, safer, and it's a lot quicker than the medication."

Electroconvulsive therapy today is a procedure widely accepted by the medical community and one, absent a rare court order, that is done with patient consent. But it is also a treatment that lingers in the public imagination as a crude medical holdover almost as dated as bloodletting. Many outside of psychiatry are surprised to learn that the procedure still exists at all.

Despite that, ECT has seen a resurgence at many U.S. health centers in recent decades, experts say, and is now doing a brisk business here in Southwest Florida.

Park Royal, the only inpatient psychiatric hospital in Lee County, has already treated nearly 200 people with ECT, most receiving multiple treatments. The number represents roughly 10 percent of all Park Royal's admissions since it opened in early 2012.

The hospital is a for-profit facility owned by the Tennessee-based Acadia Healthcare Co.

ECT had been widely available before Lee County's last inpatient psychiatric hospital, Charter Glade, closed in 2000. Separately, one physician had provided ECT services in Collier County before retiring several years ago.

Otherwise in Southwest Florida, Riverside Behavioral Health in Punta Gorda offers the treatment, though it performs far fewer than Park Royal. Riverside's Dr. Bernardo Arias estimates his facility performs 150 treatments a year. Park Royal estimates it has performed more than 2,000 in the last year.

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I'm so not surprised at this. Please don't miss the comments after the article.

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ECT is actually very safe and effective. Essentially the patient's short term memory is "erased," however long term memory is intact. No one has ever died with modern ECT. I don't understand why you think this a negative thing. I suggest you stop watching television and read up on medical articles concerning ECT. It is effective at treating major depressive disorder, among other conditions. Quit the fear mongering and so a little research.

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Oh an posting a picture of a Nazi is absurd. Perhaps you should remind of the Holocaust while you are at it, as if it somehow all connects.

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ECT is actually very safe and effective. Essentially the patient's short term memory is "erased," however long term memory is intact. No one has ever died with modern ECT. I don't understand why you think this a negative thing. I suggest you stop watching television and read up on medical articles concerning ECT. It is effective at treating major depressive disorder, among other conditions. Quit the fear mongering and so a little research.

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You are misinformed. My mother had this done to her in the '50s and believe ME, I KNOW what has happened!
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You guys 'be shilling' tonight. When does your shift end?
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Oh an posting a picture of a Nazi is absurd. Perhaps you should remind of the Holocaust while you are at it, as if it somehow all connects.

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9teen Have you never heard of cattle prod type Electroshock Therapy.
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I'll have my ECT with a Six-Pack and a couple of Cheese Burgers?
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I noticed on the TV series "Homeland", the Claire Danes character has ECT, and all appears to be, if not well, at least better, afterwards. She is able to resume her [portrayed as] vital work, for which she is uniquely qualified, and ECT appears as a "necessary evil", but all too necessary. Her boss/mentor Berenson [Mandy Patinkin] is very worried about this course of action, but so far, at least, his concerns appear to have been worrywartishly unwarranted.

I've read about "resurgence" of ELECTROSHOCK THERAPY, and find the timing of this TV portrayal "interesting".

Have you seen the movie Frances Ms superduper? and does it have any resemblance to what you saw with your mother?
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I noticed on the TV series "Homeland", the Claire Danes character has ECT, and all appears to be, if not well, at least better, afterwards. She is able to resume her [portrayed as] vital work, for which she is uniquely qualified, and ECT appears as a "necessary evil", but all too necessary. Her boss/mentor Berenson [Mandy Patinkin] is very worried about this course of action, but so far, at least, his concerns appear to have been worrywartishly unwarranted.

I've read about "resurgence" of ELECTROSHOCK THERAPY, and find the timing of this TV portrayal "interesting".

Have you seen the movie Frances Ms superduper? and does it have any resemblance to what you saw with your mother?
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No not really. More like DID. She did not have a lobotomy. It was electroshock therapy. Terrible. Symptoms to this day. Not fun.
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Oh an posting a picture of a Nazi is absurd. Perhaps you should remind of the Holocaust while you are at it, as if it somehow all connects.

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9teen Have you never heard of cattle prod type Electroshock Therapy.
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I know you didn't ask me, but I have read of that.
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I bought a 60's era EST machine at a hospital rummage
sale after their use they had been banned.

The ban did not last long as new more precise and controllable and safer machines where introduced
into the market.

It's all the rage again.

What goes around comes around.
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Disturbing the body with electricity is not going to lead to positive effects. The people advocating this are evil, stupid and full of hatred and anger. Dark souls to the core.
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Disturbing the body with electricity is not going to lead to positive effects. The people advocating this are evil, stupid and full of hatred and anger. Dark souls to the core.
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Amen to that.
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I noticed on the TV series "Homeland", the Claire Danes character has ECT, and all appears to be, if not well, at least better, afterwards. She is able to resume her [portrayed as] vital work, for which she is uniquely qualified, and ECT appears as a "necessary evil", but all too necessary. Her boss/mentor Berenson [Mandy Patinkin] is very worried about this course of action, but so far, at least, his concerns appear to have been worrywartishly unwarranted.

I've read about "resurgence" of ELECTROSHOCK THERAPY, and find the timing of this TV portrayal "interesting".

Have you seen the movie Frances Ms superduper? and does it have any resemblance to what you saw with your mother?
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No not really. More like DID. She did not have a lobotomy. It was electroshock therapy. Terrible. Symptoms to this day. Not fun.
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Oh that's right. How could I have forgotten that it was a lobotomy? One of the most harrowing movies i ever saw.

I'm not sure it's clear from above,but I'm definitely suspicious of the motives for the so-far positive portrayal of ECT on HOMELAND
Very sorry about your mom. From the one person I know that had it, memory-loss from ECT is much worse than popularly supposed. I go to look up DID now.

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Modern ECT does away with most of the negative immediate side effects using drugs to prevent pain, and I think some anti-convulsive medicines to prevent muscle damage.

The idea is to use an electrical current of low amperage to cause the brain to re-set itself.

Now, there are other ways to do this, some of which are more pleasant. A large does of LSD has a similar effect I hear, for instance.

LSD is illegal however and frowned upon even for therapeutic use.

I'm not saying that everyone that feels a little down should run off and have their brain fried, but it drugs don't work and your other option is killing yourself, then, yes, people should consider it.

It is not a panacea, but it is an option, if all else has already failed.
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This is also used on mind control slaves. Do the bad stuff to 'em, then zap 'em and they have no memory of it. It is especially used on younger mind control subjects/slaves. They can do anything to them, then zap them and they have no memory of it whatsoever.

I find it barbaric and evil - all of it.
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ECT has better remission rates than other antidepressants by far (80% compared to ~50% with SSRIs and SNRIs). I've witnessed it myself. Most patients only need about 6 sessions. Usually used as last line therapy but probably should be more front lined.
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It is abusive and its long term effects are unrelenting.
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ECT has better remission rates than other antidepressants by far (80% compared to ~50% with SSRIs and SNRIs). I've witnessed it myself. Most patients only need about 6 sessions. Usually used as last line therapy but probably should be more front lined.
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It is abusive and its long term effects are unrelenting.
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Benefits>Risks. Short term memory loss is nothing compared to the seemingly complete shutdown of a person suffering from major depressive disorder.
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Yeah. The mindset of just fix it now. That's good. Maybe you can take care of someone who was abused in this manner and I'm sure you'd change your mind.
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Yeah. The mindset of just fix it now. That's good. Maybe you can take care of someone who was abused in this manner and I'm sure you'd change your mind.
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I have...worked psych for 12 years. ECT is last resort but effective in most patients. Nobody is using it first line for depression...but when all else fails it can be very effective. It's like hitting the reset button in the brain...kind of like a shock to the heart in fibrillation to bring about normal function.
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Yeah. The mindset of just fix it now. That's good. Maybe you can take care of someone who was abused in this manner and I'm sure you'd change your mind.
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I have...worked psych for 12 years. ECT is last resort but effective in most patients. Nobody is using it first line for depression...but when all else fails it can be very effective. It's like hitting the reset button in the brain...kind of like a shock to the heart in fibrillation to bring about normal function.
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Again, I am speaking for a loved one, not a patient of mine. There is a great difference.
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I noticed on the TV series "Homeland", the Claire Danes character has ECT, and all appears to be, if not well, at least better, afterwards. She is able to resume her [portrayed as] vital work, for which she is uniquely qualified, and ECT appears as a "necessary evil", but all too necessary. Her boss/mentor Berenson [Mandy Patinkin] is very worried about this course of action, but so far, at least, his concerns appear to have been worrywartishly unwarranted.

I've read about "resurgence" of ELECTROSHOCK THERAPY, and find the timing of this TV portrayal "interesting".

Have you seen the movie Frances Ms superduper? and does it have any resemblance to what you saw with your mother?
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if that's the case let's start by giving it to all politicians

they could use some straightening around, clearly
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I knew a woman who had this. She lost her memories entirely and after a year still was VERY depressed. Don't be fooled into thinking this is good. Talk to the patients first then give an informed opinion.
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There's also Trans-Magnetic Stimulation (TMS).

It uses strong electro-magnetic fields to induce a small electric current. They are able to target it much better and it seems to have much less side effects tehn even modern ECT.
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I had 13 sessions back in 1990, unilateral. Didn't help. Lost my memories of that time. Dr got a new pool. Best thing was the Dr giving me the drugs to put me out. A good lookin' woman from Texas whose southern accent was like heaven. Surprising I do remember that. Kept calling me "Sugar."
Wouldn't do it again or recommend it for anyone.

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