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Man Shot, family puts up memorial, scares local children.

 
Elfsong

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08/20/2013 05:38 AM

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Man Shot, family puts up memorial, scares local children.
The other day, when I came out of my house, I found police tape everywhere and a Moving Van separated out as a crime scene at the part two blocks from my house.

It seems that the guy that had been sitting at the park selling weed for the last two days. Two young black kids came up, tried to steal the weed and shot him 3 times in the chest. A witness across the street, was working on a roof and witnessed the whole thing. The kids took off, jumped in a car and left the scene. They caught up with the kids two days later near Bakersfield CA.
Of this part, I have no problem, at least I know that the kids are not in the neighborhood and could shoot someone else.

Here comes my problem.
The family of the victim has set up a memorial around a tree in the park near where he was shot and killed. Instead of taking it down two days later, they have left it up and has someone sitting there making sure no one touches it.

This is right down the street from an Elementary School, and now the children are afraid to go near the park. When they get close to the park, they point at the Memorial and say "Dead Man... no go!."

I can understand that the family wants a memorial for the victim, but he was a drug dealer, and they are making him into some one special. I would like them to take the memorial down so that the children in the area will not be afraid to go to the park during the day to play.

When I asked them to take it down, they almost got violent with me and told me that they had Rights and it was going to stay up for a year. Ok,, But What about My Rights? I do not want to have to see this every day for a year. It is almost outside of my front door...enough is enough. I want it taken down.

Apparently the Drug Dealer has more rights than I do....
Am I wrong?
Anonymous Coward
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08/20/2013 05:44 AM
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That's crazy...I'd complain to the city and express your concern.

Where I live this wouldn't be permitted. You can't even have a park birthday party without first getting a permit for it.
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08/20/2013 05:48 AM
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Re: Man Shot, family puts up memorial, scares local children.
You know nothing of the guy. Weed... c'mon really? It's legal in some states and used as a medicine in most. He could have been selling it to help supplement his income. Maybe he was paying for chemo for a sick child. Way to judge. You are the epitome of a sheeple. Alcohol kills more people than WEED . People like you suck
Elfsong (OP)

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08/20/2013 05:53 AM

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Re: Man Shot, family puts up memorial, scares local children.
You know nothing of the guy. Weed... c'mon really? It's legal in some states and used as a medicine in most. He could have been selling it to help supplement his income. Maybe he was paying for chemo for a sick child. Way to judge. You are the epitome of a sheeple. Alcohol kills more people than WEED . People like you suck
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Really?
I have said nothing about when he was doing it, ... it was during the morning, we were just lucky that it was on a Sunday and there were no children in the area.

Granted, Weed is not that bad. But I would feel the same way if he was selling Alcohol in the same manor. My point is, the Memorial is scaring the children in the area. What about their rights?

People like you take great pleasure in scaring small children.
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In all honesty, it's a memorial. And it is just some weed.

Shit like this is why the substance is looked at poorly.

A year though? I'd say 6 months at the most. Or carving something into the tree, maybe the initials and the year of birth and year of death.

Still, grieving family. If you were to complain, it would be a dick move.
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08/20/2013 05:56 AM
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If it is a public park...

Call your local government and have it removed.

Just like the 'tards that put shit up along the highways.
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08/20/2013 05:56 AM
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Re: Man Shot, family puts up memorial, scares local children.
Plus, kids get scared of shadows and creaks in the house at night. And a memorial should bring more vigilance to the area. My parents wouldn't let me go anywhere alone till I could drive myself. I don't like scaring children, but I think that's not a good enough excuse to take down a memorial.
Elfsong (OP)

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08/21/2013 04:16 AM

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Re: Man Shot, family puts up memorial, scares local children.
Plus, kids get scared of shadows and creaks in the house at night. And a memorial should bring more vigilance to the area. My parents wouldn't let me go anywhere alone till I could drive myself. I don't like scaring children, but I think that's not a good enough excuse to take down a memorial.
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Again....Really?

Then I guess it is ok for you to encourage their fear about violence in their neighborhood park.

I understand that they want the right to grieve, but I believe that it should be a private thing and once you have had your Memorial, move it to your own yard. Then, if you want to keep it up for a year, it is on your property and you can stare at it for a year. Keeping yourself in that constant state of grief, not moving on and healing like you should.
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08/21/2013 04:27 AM
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My guess is that the memorial is actually bothering you, not the kids. Oh, they don't want to go to the park, because a man died there, making it took close to home and real.

They're kids. They may never return to the haunted park, or they may be back in a month of two.

As for the rest... The family is grieving and will leave soon enough. Pushing them on the issue will just get them to dig their heals in and stay longer, to keep you from harming the memory of their loved one.

Worse, now, when they leave, even if you don't touch the memorial, when someone finally does, guess who is going to be blamed for it?

(If you thought, not me, then I have some excellent land in Florida to sell you. A great place and close to a wetlands preserve!)
Elfsong (OP)

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08/21/2013 04:49 AM

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Re: Man Shot, family puts up memorial, scares local children.
My guess is that the memorial is actually bothering you, not the kids. Oh, they don't want to go to the park, because a man died there, making it took close to home and real.

They're kids. They may never return to the haunted park, or they may be back in a month of two.

As for the rest... The family is grieving and will leave soon enough. Pushing them on the issue will just get them to dig their heals in and stay longer, to keep you from harming the memory of their loved one.

Worse, now, when they leave, even if you don't touch the memorial, when someone finally does, guess who is going to be blamed for it?

(If you thought, not me, then I have some excellent land in Florida to sell you. A great place and close to a wetlands preserve!)
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Of this, I believe you are correct. Partly because I do not want to have to be reminded that this type of violence has come into our neighborhood, and partly because of the reaction I have seen from the children leaving the school down the street.
I have made sure that I have not returned the park unless I have someone with me. Partly because I want to make sure I have a witness to verify that I have not touched their memorial, and partly because of the people that are there at the memorial.
Like I said, if they want a year round memorial, then they need to set it up on their property. This way they can maintain it any way they want. I just do not want it outside my front door. (ok, so it is across the street, but every time I open the door, there it is.)
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08/21/2013 05:39 AM
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Re: Man Shot, family puts up memorial, scares local children.
My guess is that the memorial is actually bothering you, not the kids. Oh, they don't want to go to the park, because a man died there, making it took close to home and real.

They're kids. They may never return to the haunted park, or they may be back in a month of two.

As for the rest... The family is grieving and will leave soon enough. Pushing them on the issue will just get them to dig their heals in and stay longer, to keep you from harming the memory of their loved one.

Worse, now, when they leave, even if you don't touch the memorial, when someone finally does, guess who is going to be blamed for it?

(If you thought, not me, then I have some excellent land in Florida to sell you. A great place and close to a wetlands preserve!)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1053533



Of this, I believe you are correct. Partly because I do not want to have to be reminded that this type of violence has come into our neighborhood, and partly because of the reaction I have seen from the children leaving the school down the street.
I have made sure that I have not returned the park unless I have someone with me. Partly because I want to make sure I have a witness to verify that I have not touched their memorial, and partly because of the people that are there at the memorial.
Like I said, if they want a year round memorial, then they need to set it up on their property. This way they can maintain it any way they want. I just do not want it outside my front door. (ok, so it is across the street, but every time I open the door, there it is.)
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Wow, you must live in cave. Around my whole state there are Crosses " Memorials " of deceased loved ones Everywhere, for every reason, and they stay up, I don't know, seems like years. No one EVER gave anyone shit for putting one near their house, that's crazy. My daughter asked me once what they meant and people go there sometimes, I just explained that someone lost someone they loved and missed and they put that cross there to remember them and mark the spot that their lost Family member/Friend left this world, and it allows other family members and friends to have a place to go to drop off their love and respect. If you keep sheltering your children and essentially keeping blindfolds on them, then when they get a little older and that blindfold gets ripped off by little Tommy in school and he starts to see the world as it really is your gonna be dealing with the most curious, defiant kid ever.The only reason your kid is "Afraid" is because you allowed it.
On another note, Why is your child afraid even if your with him/her? Is it that you are afraid, If so Id say most likely if you walked by on your way to playground and told them your sorry for their loss etc you'd find them to be thankful and respectful ( maybe a little late now since you had already said something to them but. ) If you wanted to play with their psyche you could do that as well at that point, Pay condolences and respect and tell them 'I feel so much safer with you guys out here, we need to put a stop to these mindless killings and crimes.' I guarantee their whole
mentality for why they are standing there will change.
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08/21/2013 05:47 AM
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Re: Man Shot, family puts up memorial, scares local children.
Killed over weed, what the fuck is wrong with people?
Elfsong (OP)

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08/23/2013 12:45 AM

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Re: Man Shot, family puts up memorial, scares local children.
I do not say much to the people that set up memorials along the side of the road. This because I do not have to sit and look at it outside my door.

If these people want a memorial of their dead loved one (who was selling drugs) and make him a hero... then put the memorial up in their front yard. Not mine.
samanthasunflower

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08/23/2013 12:51 AM

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They lost their family member, let them grieve. He was selling weed, not meth. He didn't deserve to die and they need to have time to deal with it.

The children won't get freaked out about it unless adults get freaked out about it. Instead of adding to their fears, why not have them do something constructive.
Elfsong (OP)

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08/23/2013 01:06 AM

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Re: Man Shot, family puts up memorial, scares local children.
They lost their family member, let them grieve. He was selling weed, not meth. He didn't deserve to die and they need to have time to deal with it.

The children won't get freaked out about it unless adults get freaked out about it. Instead of adding to their fears, why not have them do something constructive.
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Now that is a good idea...they can go over and take it down and hand it back to the family members and ask them kindly to take it somewhere else.
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08/23/2013 01:14 AM
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Re: Man Shot, family puts up memorial, scares local children.
Selling pot in a park is illegal. Feel bad for the family but a memorial to a drug dealer in a place where children play is a horrible idea.
Elfsong (OP)

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08/23/2013 05:58 AM

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Re: Man Shot, family puts up memorial, scares local children.
Selling pot in a park is illegal. Feel bad for the family but a memorial to a drug dealer in a place where children play is a horrible idea.
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thank you
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08/23/2013 06:29 AM
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Re: Man Shot, family puts up memorial, scares local children.
The people on here who says its 'just weed' sicken me. It starts with 'just weed' and can lead to even worse drugs. If you people think thats ok then you really need to see a shrink due to your twisted view on life.