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Christians- "Praying in the Spirit." Is it of God or the Devil? | |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 45300414 United States08/21/2013 02:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they will be heard because of their many words. Matthew 6:7 Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask him. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 750749 That is irrelevant. That verse is only about getting to the point in prayer. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 750749 Sweden08/21/2013 02:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they will be heard because of their many words. Matthew 6:7 Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask him. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 750749 That is irrelevant. That verse is only about getting to the point in prayer. The Lord says: These people come near to me with their mouth and honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me. Their worship of me is made up only of rules taught by men. Isaiah 29:13 |
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| Anonynous Coward User ID: 45089832 United States08/21/2013 04:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This^^^^^^^^^is the true question. I for one want to know what I am saying, especially when talking to God. Talking to GOD as we were taught to by Yeshua himself. Talk to the father. Why would you want to talk in another language that you don't even know?? Because that is what some people who know some of these ancient languages say these utterances are. ANCIENT LANGUAGES. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 45089832 United States08/21/2013 04:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A friend of mine was attending a church service when someone stood up and started speaking in tongues. They were there with a friend who happened to be a professor of ancient languages and he exited the church in haste. The language being spoken "in the spirit" was saying vile, abominable things about God according to the professor. When praying know what you are saying. |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 39830991 United States08/21/2013 06:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A friend of mine was attending a church service when someone stood up and started speaking in tongues. They were there with a friend who happened to be a professor of ancient languages and he exited the church in haste. The language being spoken "in the spirit" was saying vile, abominable things about God according to the professor. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45089832 When praying know what you are saying. This is exactly why I haven't prayed in tongues for 5 years. I would rather know for sure that I am not praying to the devil. But one thing has always been bugging me ever since I quit praying in tongues. Sorry, I don't have time to look up the passage but there is a passage that says: "pray in the Spirit about all things" What does "pray in the "Spirit" mean? Why didn't he just say, "Pray about all things" this implies that there is a difference between praying in the Spirit and just praying.. Also, when talking about spiritual gifts, why did Paul talk about the "gift of speaking in tongues"? If tongues were of the evil one, why would he endorse them like he did? Wouldn't he be more likely to say "Stay away from speaking in tongues"? |
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| anonymous coward User ID: 45089832 United States08/21/2013 07:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A friend of mine was attending a church service when someone stood up and started speaking in tongues. They were there with a friend who happened to be a professor of ancient languages and he exited the church in haste. The language being spoken "in the spirit" was saying vile, abominable things about God according to the professor. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45089832 When praying know what you are saying. This is exactly why I haven't prayed in tongues for 5 years. I would rather know for sure that I am not praying to the devil. But one thing has always been bugging me ever since I quit praying in tongues. Sorry, I don't have time to look up the passage but there is a passage that says: "pray in the Spirit about all things" What does "pray in the "Spirit" mean? Why didn't he just say, "Pray about all things" this implies that there is a difference between praying in the Spirit and just praying.. Also, when talking about spiritual gifts, why did Paul talk about the "gift of speaking in tongues"? If tongues were of the evil one, why would he endorse them like he did? Wouldn't he be more likely to say "Stay away from speaking in tongues"? I don't know the answer to why he phrased it that way - to "pray in the spirit" but I would refer to myself as a spiritual person and being spiritual I would be praying spiritually. I know this is not an especially well thought- out response, but it is the way I feel when I pray. It is not the same as talking to somebody sitting next to you. I still don't feel as though I am missing out on anything because I don't speak in tongues. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 38813446 United States08/21/2013 07:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A friend of mine was attending a church service when someone stood up and started speaking in tongues. They were there with a friend who happened to be a professor of ancient languages and he exited the church in haste. The language being spoken "in the spirit" was saying vile, abominable things about God according to the professor. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45089832 When praying know what you are saying. This is exactly why I haven't prayed in tongues for 5 years. I would rather know for sure that I am not praying to the devil. But one thing has always been bugging me ever since I quit praying in tongues. Sorry, I don't have time to look up the passage but there is a passage that says: "pray in the Spirit about all things" What does "pray in the "Spirit" mean? Why didn't he just say, "Pray about all things" this implies that there is a difference between praying in the Spirit and just praying.. Also, when talking about spiritual gifts, why did Paul talk about the "gift of speaking in tongues"? If tongues were of the evil one, why would he endorse them like he did? Wouldn't he be more likely to say "Stay away from speaking in tongues"? The scriptures say we are to worship God in spirit and truth. (John 4:24) They also say that the the (Holy spirit) spirit will make intercession for us to the father as we don't know what to pray for. (romans 8:26) So in other words; we are to worship God in Spirit as he is Spirit. We are to be filled with the Holy spirit (and pray the spirit) by keeping sin out of our mortal bodies and repenting and acknowledging/confessing to God our iniquity when we do; and thus the Holy spirit will guide us in prayer (as in all things) and moreover the Holy Spirit will pray the father for us without us even being aware of it. I would say also that prayer could possibly be just lip service without being actually spiritual; or that spiritual worship/prayer can transcend words/thoughts. As per the tongues; from what I understand Paul when talking about the gifts of the Spirit when referring to speaking in tongues was referring to people who are gifted to be able to speak/understand/write in many languages. Sort of like the book of acts on Pentecost when the spirit came down and they started speaking and all the people around at the time (not all jews) heard it in there own native language.(acts 2:1-6) The scriptures do say that pauls epistles are not only difficult to understand but that people twist them, of course this is true of all scripture; especially in these days we are living. (2 Peter 3:15-16) |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 16404989 United States08/21/2013 07:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A friend of mine was attending a church service when someone stood up and started speaking in tongues. They were there with a friend who happened to be a professor of ancient languages and he exited the church in haste. The language being spoken "in the spirit" was saying vile, abominable things about God according to the professor. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45089832 When praying know what you are saying. ^^^ THIS |
| anonymous coward User ID: 45089832 United States08/21/2013 07:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I just learned something from the poster when he explained that our spirit prays to God's spirit knowing full well what we need to pray for. I never thought of that. Another point to make is that the apostles were going out to be missionaries in other countries and the gift of tongues was given to them in order for them to communicate with people in other countries. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 45272982 United States08/21/2013 07:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A friend of mine was attending a church service when someone stood up and started speaking in tongues. They were there with a friend who happened to be a professor of ancient languages and he exited the church in haste. The language being spoken "in the spirit" was saying vile, abominable things about God according to the professor. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45089832 When praying know what you are saying. ^^^ THIS Wow, there you go. Scary. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 21095812 United States08/21/2013 08:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Practicing Praying in the Spirit aka praying in tongues are used in 2 ways. To edify the church, or to edify yourself. If it is going to edify the church, someone needs to translate what was said. via gift of interpretation. If this is done during prayer time, gift of interpretation should be used, the understanding of the message will just pop up in your head. Not everyone has these two gifts so be careful And not is not demonic as some think it is. Although I don't deny that the demonic realm will try and mimic speaking in tongues. If false tongue is spoken. Someone needs to have the gift of discernment to know if it is from God or not. I'm a Pentecostal BTW. |
Johnbert.Lennonstein  User ID: 9503512  Canada08/21/2013 08:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | why can't people just trust that God is omnipotent and in control just follow basic moral rules; talk to God, boom you're set for life. Go in peace, and find thy faith, evolve thyself, and lose all hate... so a heaven, you may create... |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 21057428 United States08/21/2013 08:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A friend of mine was attending a church service when someone stood up and started speaking in tongues. They were there with a friend who happened to be a professor of ancient languages and he exited the church in haste. The language being spoken "in the spirit" was saying vile, abominable things about God according to the professor. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45089832 When praying know what you are saying. A friend of yours? I've heard so many people repeat that story....... |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 38813446 United States08/21/2013 08:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A friend of mine was attending a church service when someone stood up and started speaking in tongues. They were there with a friend who happened to be a professor of ancient languages and he exited the church in haste. The language being spoken "in the spirit" was saying vile, abominable things about God according to the professor. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45089832 When praying know what you are saying. A friend of yours? I've heard so many people repeat that story....... Okay, so disregard that, and go by the scriptures and what others have said referring to scriptures throughout this post |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 21057428 United States08/21/2013 08:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't speak in tongues, but I have friends who do and friends who don't. There is no way you can judge this one way or another because there is no "proof" either way. Just do what you're comfortable with, but be careful not to judge something that you don't understand because if it is from the Holy Spirit and you call it evil, you're treading a fine line of blaspheming the Holy Spirit, and you should not even want to go there. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 21057428 United States08/21/2013 08:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP,nobody here can answer your question with 100% certainty, and from your original post it sounds like this is something that you really need answered for personal reasons. So, what you need to do it take this to the Lord in prayer and ask Him because He will give you the truth. Only He knows for sure, all you'll get her are opinions, so just ask Him and wait for a reply. |
| Simple_Man User ID: 15977994 United States08/21/2013 08:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | John 6 63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life. to pray in the Spirit means this .....to pray according to Gods word Jesus taught us how to pray in the spirit we call it the Lord's Prayer |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 38813446 United States08/21/2013 08:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't speak in tongues, but I have friends who do and friends who don't. Quoting: Lisa*Lisa There is no way you can judge this one way or another because there is no "proof" either way. Just do what you're comfortable with, but be careful not to judge something that you don't understand because if it is from the Holy Spirit and you call it evil, you're treading a fine line of blaspheming the Holy Spirit, and you should not even want to go there. This is a typical response from someone who claims to be Christian but appears not to be not filled with the Holy Spirit as they do not have very good discernment. Also that is not what is meant by blaspheming the Holy spirit. ( [link to www.gotquestions.org] I suggest repenting from sins and crying out to God that he reveal to you where changes need to be made in your life so you can be right with him and be spirit filled. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 38813446 United States08/21/2013 08:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP,nobody here can answer your question with 100% certainty, and from your original post it sounds like this is something that you really need answered for personal reasons. Quoting: Lisa*Lisa So, what you need to do it take this to the Lord in prayer and ask Him because He will give you the truth. Only He knows for sure, all you'll get her are opinions, so just ask Him and wait for a reply. God uses people who are filled with the spirit to give answers "Where no counsel is, the people fall: but in the multitude of counsellors there is safety." Proverbs 11:14 If you look through this post you will find a unanimity of folks who appear to be spirit filled and gave answers based on scriptures. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 21057428 United States08/21/2013 08:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't speak in tongues, but I have friends who do and friends who don't. Quoting: Lisa*Lisa There is no way you can judge this one way or another because there is no "proof" either way. Just do what you're comfortable with, but be careful not to judge something that you don't understand because if it is from the Holy Spirit and you call it evil, you're treading a fine line of blaspheming the Holy Spirit, and you should not even want to go there. This is a typical response from someone who claims to be Christian but appears not to be not filled with the Holy Spirit as they do not have very good discernment. Also that is not what is meant by blaspheming the Holy spirit. ( [link to www.gotquestions.org] I suggest repenting from sins and crying out to God that he reveal to you where changes need to be made in your life so you can be right with him and be spirit filled. LOL!!!!!!!!!! You have a good day. |
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| Simple_Man User ID: 15977994 United States08/21/2013 08:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A person has the Holy Spirit if they believe every Word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God No where in the Bible does it say that speaking in tounges is the evidence of the Holy Spirit Speaking in tounges is just a gift just like any of the other gifts .....does everyone recieve a gift of prophecy when they recieve the Holy Spirit ? ...no Infact you don't even need to be born again to speak in tounges People speak in tounges and then go out and cheat on their spouses , steal from their employers , go to strip clubs ....etc....etc.....I've seen it Matt 5 45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust. |
