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So a "Census worker" just knocked on my door

 
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Honestly this is how you should have handled it. Reverse the entire scenario:

"You want to come in and measure my house? Okay...but before I let you in; I need your valid government worker credentials, your drivers license, a copy of your medical insurance card and a fee of $100 for crossing our doors threshold. Also, I need a utility bill so I can verify your name with your correct address...unfortunately your address on your driver license just won't do."

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Why do they need to come in though? Counties have all that info on file. Building and lot size etc. This is really disturbing. It's like they just want to get in your house or something. A percurser to the forced home visits thing. Find a "reason to come back"
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Very disturbing. Research the questions they want answered
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2940388


I'm not even sure how to search that. Do you know what questions they are after? (Or does anyone?)
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Okay I searched and found this
[link to www.dailypaul.com]
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(Less than 50 percent I hope. Really, this can't be what it supposedly is about. Diversity is not a fucking law)
EACH SURVEY INCLUDES DATA ON TOPICS SUCH AS THE FOLLOWING:

1. Introductory Characteristics (such as owner tenure, race and origin of household, year built)

2. Height and Condition of Building (such as the number of stories, foundation type, external building conditions)

3. Size of Unit and Lot (such as number of rooms, bedrooms, square feet per person, lot size)

4. Selected Equipment and Plumbing (such as the types of heating and cooling systems, type of plumbing, water source)

5. Fuels (such as fuel type by usage: heating, cooking, water heating, clothes dryer)

6. Failures in Equipment (such as toilet breakdowns, heating and electrical problems)

7. Additional Indicators of Housing Quality (such as the presence of porches, owner/managers on property, evidence of rodents)

8. Neighborhood (such as opinions of neighborhood, presence of such things as crime, odors, schools, noise, community security, parking lots)

9. Household Composition (such as age, gender, marital status of householders, education levels, move-in dates)

10. Previous Unit of Recent Movers (such as type of unit came from, number of people in previous residence)

11. Reasons for Move and Choice of Current Residence (such as why left previous unit, why chose the current unit)

12. Income Characteristics (such as total household income, whether financial assistance is part of income)

13. Selected Housing Costs (such as monthly utility costs for electricity, piped gas, fuel oil, whether rent is paid, monthly costs of taxes, condo/cooperative fees)

14. Journey to Work (such as type of transportation, travel time, distance to work, whether worked at home)

15. Value, Purchase Price, and Source of Down Payment (such as year unit purchased, purchase price, source of down payment)

16. Mortgage Characteristics (such as type of mortgage(s), payment plan for mortgage(s), interest rate, outstanding principal)
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Honestly this is how you should have handled it. Reverse the entire scenario:

"You want to come in and measure my house? Okay...but before I let you in; I need your valid government worker credentials, your drivers license, a copy of your medical insurance card and a fee of $100 for crossing our doors threshold. Also, I need a utility bill so I can verify your name with your correct address...unfortunately your address on your driver license just won't do."
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Why do they need to come in though? Counties have all that info on file. Building and lot size etc. This is really disturbing. It's like they just want to get in your house or something. A percurser to the forced home visits thing. Find a "reason to come back"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45272982


Very disturbing. Research the questions they want answered
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2940388


I'm not even sure how to search that. Do you know what questions they are after? (Or does anyone?)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45272982


Okay I searched and found this
[link to www.dailypaul.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45272982


Bingo
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OP, do you have a pool?

HUD promised me and my kin they'd be moving us to a house with a pool.

They better not mess that up.

Would you mind cleaning your carpets before you go?
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So you knew .gov agents were gonna be knocking soon and you still answered the fucking door?
 Quoting: 90Rocky


An attractive African American woman in a nice dress does not shout out government agent
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I heard they get paid by the number of houses done so that's why they are pushy.
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OP, do you have a pool?

HUD promised me and my kin they'd be moving us to a house with a pool.

They better not mess that up.

Would you mind cleaning your carpets before you go?
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Actually I do. I also embrace the 2nd amendment
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When will you people stop answering the fucking door?
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I agree! Just because someone is at the door does not mean you have to answer it. They can knock all day for all I care! If I don't know you after peeking out the curtain I will not be answering the door. When someone is on your property you don't have to be polite!
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OP, do you have a pool?

HUD promised me and my kin they'd be moving us to a house with a pool.

They better not mess that up.

Would you mind cleaning your carpets before you go?
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Actually I do. I also embrace the 2nd amendment
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Cool! I white knuckle the 2nd amendment. Embracing is for fags. No offense chuckle
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He's a nut-bag! Just because the fucker's got a library card doesn't make him Yoda ~David Mills ~ Se7en!

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Isn't what she's asking for public knowledge.
I mean there's all kinds of info on your house on the internets.
Married, kids, etc.
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Isn't what she's asking for public knowledge.
I mean there's all kinds of info on your house on the internets.
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That's why its so creepy. They want IN your house WHY?
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That's why you shouldn't be involved in HUD in the first place. Everything the government "helps" you with, has strings attached.
 Quoting: *Evan


Hud isn't just Section 8.

Also WTH to OP.

Sounds bogus, why do they need to measure your house?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45272982


Not bogus. Read up on the new HUD special census.

And to the other respondent, I am not involved w HUD.

I live in an affluent neighborhood and have received many letters regarding this "voluntary census". The census worker has also left behind 3 notes to my door over the past 2 weeks when I wasn't home.

The current administration is convinced that not only should wealth be redistributed, but also communities. READ UP

I just received a taste of things to come..
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Never let ANY of them in your home....ever.
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Yeah, embracing is kind of gay.

Is the Second Amendment the part that says I get more money if I have more kids?

Please leave the drapes when you vacate, OP.
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Isn't what she's asking for public knowledge.
I mean there's all kinds of info on your house on the internets.
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That's why its so creepy. They want IN your house WHY?
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Yeah, creepy's the word for it. Wow.
Married, kids, etc.
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Right smack at dinner time!
There she stood. Laptop already open. Tape measure in hand

She said may I come in, I need to measure your home and ask you and your family a set of detailed questions...for HUD...it will only take 45 minutes to an hour!

I politely told her that no, she could not come in, and also reminded her it was dinner hour.

I also said I decline to answer any questions and asked her how she got in through the gate to the community..it appears these workers have been given all the codes issued to LEO and the Fire Dept.

She asked me why I wouldn't help HUD gather necessary data, and I replied that the data she was seeking was not necessary, but rather, an intrusion on the privacy of all Americans. I also reminded her that I helped pay her salary...she was not pleased.

She stayed at the curb for 10 minutes typing into her laptop...

I guess I can now expect a letter from the IRS and NSA monitoring.

America 2013
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You are screwed. She will pester you until the end of time. This happened to me. You will get a letter stating that it is the law that you comply yet they are vague as to what will happen if you don't. She will call you, they have your number. They can and will show up at your place of business. They get a commission for each successful entry so she will get her stats one way or another. Although if it drags on, they will do the "short version" over the phone. One time, when I didnt answer the door on time, lol, she mentioned that my car was in the carport so she knew I was home, lol. Creepy woman...
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Right smack at dinner time!
There she stood. Laptop already open. Tape measure in hand

She said may I come in, I need to measure your home and ask you and your family a set of detailed questions...for HUD...it will only take 45 minutes to an hour!

I politely told her that no, she could not come in, and also reminded her it was dinner hour.

I also said I decline to answer any questions and asked her how she got in through the gate to the community..it appears these workers have been given all the codes issued to LEO and the Fire Dept.

She asked me why I wouldn't help HUD gather necessary data, and I replied that the data she was seeking was not necessary, but rather, an intrusion on the privacy of all Americans. I also reminded her that I helped pay her salary...she was not pleased.

She stayed at the curb for 10 minutes typing into her laptop...

I guess I can now expect a letter from the IRS and NSA monitoring.

America 2013
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2940388


You are screwed. She will pester you until the end of time. This happened to me. You will get a letter stating that it is the law that you comply yet they are vague as to what will happen if you don't. She will call you, they have your number. They can and will show up at your place of business. They get a commission for each successful entry so she will get her stats one way or another. Although if it drags on, they will do the "short version" over the phone. One time, when I didnt answer the door on time, lol, she mentioned that my car was in the carport so she knew I was home, lol. Creepy woman...
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So you eventually did a phone interview but didn't let them in your home? Did you ask why they didn't just get the info off county records?
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When will you people stop answering the fucking door?
 Quoting: 90Rocky
they keep coming back over and over again and if they cant get your information they go next door and get it from them or they do like they did me and went to every house around me tell they got to my moms house and she told them everything they wanted to know
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Isn't what she's asking for public knowledge.
I mean there's all kinds of info on your house on the internets.
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Not the questions on this census.

What appliances are in your home.
What was the source of your down payment?
How do you get to work?
What is your income?
What types of energy do you use?
What is your ethnicity?
Do your children work?
Where?

And on and on and on
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Right smack at dinner time!
There she stood. Laptop already open. Tape measure in hand

She said may I come in, I need to measure your home and ask you and your family a set of detailed questions...for HUD...it will only take 45 minutes to an hour!

I politely told her that no, she could not come in, and also reminded her it was dinner hour.

I also said I decline to answer any questions and asked her how she got in through the gate to the community..it appears these workers have been given all the codes issued to LEO and the Fire Dept.

She asked me why I wouldn't help HUD gather necessary data, and I replied that the data she was seeking was not necessary, but rather, an intrusion on the privacy of all Americans. I also reminded her that I helped pay her salary...she was not pleased.

She stayed at the curb for 10 minutes typing into her laptop...

I guess I can now expect a letter from the IRS and NSA monitoring.

America 2013
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2940388


You are screwed. She will pester you until the end of time. This happened to me. You will get a letter stating that it is the law that you comply yet they are vague as to what will happen if you don't. She will call you, they have your number. They can and will show up at your place of business. They get a commission for each successful entry so she will get her stats one way or another. Although if it drags on, they will do the "short version" over the phone. One time, when I didnt answer the door on time, lol, she mentioned that my car was in the carport so she knew I was home, lol. Creepy woman...
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So you eventually did a phone interview but didn't let them in your home? Did you ask why they didn't just get the info off county records?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45272982

Read the thread. The HUD survey asks very intrusive questions that are not answered by county records. Yet.
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Isn't what she's asking for public knowledge.
I mean there's all kinds of info on your house on the internets.
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Not the questions on this census.

What appliances are in your home.
What was the source of your down payment?
How do you get to work?
What is your income?
What types of energy do you use?
What is your ethnicity?
Do your children work?
Where?

And on and on and on
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2940388



This is prime example of .gov wasting tax dollars, the damn nsa already has that all that info.
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Isn't what she's asking for public knowledge.
I mean there's all kinds of info on your house on the internets.
 Quoting: snarky74

Not the questions on this census.

What appliances are in your home.
What was the source of your down payment?
How do you get to work?
What is your income?
What types of energy do you use?
What is your ethnicity?
Do your children work?
Where?

And on and on and on
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2940388


Holy smokes! That's way too intrusive. Wouldn't talk either myself.
Married, kids, etc.
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Isn't what she's asking for public knowledge.
I mean there's all kinds of info on your house on the internets.
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Not the questions on this census.

What appliances are in your home.
What was the source of your down payment?
How do you get to work?
What is your income?
What types of energy do you use?
What is your ethnicity?
Do your children work?
Where?

And on and on and on
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2940388


They have no right to any of that information.
In a gated community, you should, on basic principle....CALL THE COPS ON HER.

Seriously. Report it.....make a stink...get the neighbors to do the same.
Get the f*cker ejected!
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Isn't what she's asking for public knowledge.
I mean there's all kinds of info on your house on the internets.
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Not the questions on this census.

What appliances are in your home.
What was the source of your down payment?
How do you get to work?
What is your income?
What types of energy do you use?
What is your ethnicity?
Do your children work?
Where?

And on and on and on
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2940388


They have no right to any of that information.
In a gated community, you should, on basic principle....CALL THE COPS ON HER.

Seriously. Report it.....make a stink...get the neighbors to do the same.
Get the f*cker ejected!
 Quoting: Useless Cookie Eater


The current people in power do not think it is fair that some people live in gated communities, while some live in slums.

They do not think it is fair that some people have six enable iras,
While others have none.
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completely drop to the floor curl up into the fetal position and pee while crying hysterically.
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Hell...I do that every time someone knocks at my door...
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When will you people stop answering the fucking door?
 Quoting: 90Rocky


This^

mostly because nobody will stop knocking untill its answered. atleast thats how it seems these days.
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Thats when you scream:

"IM BLIND FUCKING DRUNK AND I GOT A SCATTER GUN. GO THE FUCK AWAY BEFORE I SCRATCH MY ITCHY FINGER"

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No matter what you tell them you are:

African American
Democrat
Single Parent

I don't care what the say just tell them this and make sure they write it down.
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I don't see how they think they have the right to force people to answer these questions. WHAT LAW gives them the right to ask for and force us to answer?
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Honestly this is how you should have handled it. Reverse the entire scenario:

"You want to come in and measure my house? Okay...but before I let you in; I need your valid government worker credentials, your drivers license, a copy of your medical insurance card and a fee of $100 for crossing our doors threshold. Also, I need a utility bill so I can verify your name with your correct address...unfortunately your address on your driver license just won't do."
 Quoting: Chip


bow

this is fucking awesome!

i now have that copied in a notepad for later use

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Why do you think this is so intrusive? They already have all that information, and a lot more, ALL SUPPLIED BY YOU.

Credit card records can easily show how many appliances you have.

Kids have school records with addresses.

Your employment is known.

All specs on houses are in the records.

Car payments.

Electric bills.

Fuck they can just go on Facebook and probably find most of it. Really.

Ever heard of Facial Recognition Cloud Computing? They could find out all of this stuff in thirty seconds just from a video still from the gas station. Look it up.

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