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And Jesus is at the door.
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You fucking moron!
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You will answer for that remark shill, Jesus will have no mercy on you and your kind...unless you repent and turn from your wickedness
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Democrat Party = Nazi Party

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Correct.

Democrats are socialist and therefore promote socialism.

Nazi party stands for "National Socialist Party"

The Democrats are socialist.
The Nazis are socialist.

Therefore Democrats = Nazis.

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hey Australia, perhaps you do not understand. We are going to have to pay about $20,0000 for a family of four people. Could you afford that??!!!
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IMO they wanna DO STUFF TO US medically.

I plan to pay the penalty fee for not participating.

If everyone did that, the penalty would probably be changed to jail.
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Do you “really” think it will be just a penalty? You pass a $800.00 tax or whatever it is and then they will leave you alone? LOL I think not

Remember the IRS is enforcing this.

Will not comply? Then you better prepare …no physical assets …no bank accounts, no land and no titles to anything.

Let the games begin!teslanote
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Democrat Party = Nazi Party

:hitler:
 Quoting: AlcoholicRunner


Correct.

Democrats are socialist and therefore promote socialism.

Nazi party stands for "National Socialist Party"

The Democrats are socialist.
The Nazis are socialist.

Therefore Democrats = Nazis.
 Quoting: PIR


Of course.....they are to the LEFT.....

so it goes...

LEFT...............middle.................Far Far Right

Total Control elected Republic lawlessness
Dictatorship reasonable Anarchy
totalitarianism commonsense

Where are we now?

This new "hiring" is just paying for playing.....ie acorn and other leftest groups getting their due. By the way, these people will have access to all YOUR information and records and NO BACKGROUND CHECKS for them. How's that for this new government. (rhetorical, not a question)

Good day.
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I WILL NOT FUCKING COMPLY!

bump rant
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I second that !!!
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Will not comply? Then you better prepare …no physical assets …no bank accounts, no land and no titles to anything.

Let the games begin!:teslanote:


I am up for it. I will not comply. period.
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IMO they wanna DO STUFF TO US medically.

I plan to pay the penalty fee for not participating.

If everyone did that, the penalty would probably be changed to jail.
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Do you “really” think it will be just a penalty? You pass a $800.00 tax or whatever it is and then they will leave you alone? LOL I think not

Remember the IRS is enforcing this.

Will not comply? Then you better prepare …no physical assets …no bank accounts, no land and no titles to anything.

Let the games begin!teslanote
 Quoting: YaRight


And they stole his research and have used it against us - the illuminati, that is. Read all about it and who exactly finished him off and just took his papers and everything else.
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More than 1,600 new employees hired by the U.S. Department of Health and Human Resources in the aftermath of Obamacare's passage include just two described as 'consumer safety' officers, but 86 tasked with 'criminal investigating' – indicating that the agency is building an army of detectives to sleuth out violations of a law that many in Congress who supported it still find confusing.

On the day President Obama signed the Affordable Care Act into law in 2010, HHS received authority from the Office of Personnel Management (OPM) to make as many as 1,814 new hires under an emergency 'Direct Hiring Authority' order.

The Obama administration ordered


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This is funny on so many levels.

One of which is that NO ONE knows anything about the healthcare - NO ONE. Not doctors, not health insurance salespeople - NO ONE.

Therefore, how can rules be followed if NO ONE knows what the rules are????????

You know the "other levels" of which I speak so I'll cease.


:O-CARE:
 Quoting: Ms. Superduper


I received a bit of an earful from my insurance broker the other day.

I own my own business, and up until recently we were all covered under my wife's employer provided insurance. That changed this month when she was hired on by a company that only offers a stipend against the cost of health insurance, so now we're in the market seeking coverage.

According to my broker, most all insurance companies (with a few exceptions) are forcing all of their customers out of their existing policies starting October 1 of this year, and into policies that are "Obamacare compliant." In fact, you will not be able to buy a "non-Obamacare" compliant policy after October 1.

So, anyone or any (healthy) family that has a high-deductible catastrophic plan with limited benefits will no longer be able to enjoy that plan starting January 1 (or October 1 2013 if you're currently in the market, if with a carrier forcing you into Obamacare).

This will work perfectly fine if you are in the lowest tax bracket, but anything above that (middle class and up) will be absolutely screwed starting January 1. For instance, an "Obamacare compliant plan" for a healthy family of four making $90k or better will likely cost somewhere in the neighborhood of $20,000 per year from what I'm told. Mainly because you will be forced to take on insurance that you don't need and will never use. Lower income tax bracket folks will simply be "subsidized" (by you), so it'll be great for them. Oh, and if you have a pre-existing condition (and you're in a higher tax bracket) expect to pay much more. In fact, I'm guessing that many will find themselves broken by the premiums alone by the end of this - which is the likely intent of those behind this...

So, if you're not yet aware of this (because it sure as hell isn't being advertised or reported), you'd better start doing your research and SCREAMING at your Congressman to defund this travesty (before it is too late) and then repeal it assuming we get the Senate majority in 2014. Otherwise, the impact to this country when all is said and done, to you individually and to your families, will be devastating beyond anything we've ever experienced in our country's history (and this applies to those of you thinking you're about to get a "good deal" with more coverage at no cost). This is a time bomb, it's about to explode, and the overall economic ramifications will ruin everyone in the end.

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More than 1,600 new employees hired by the U.S. Department of Health and Human Resources in the aftermath of Obamacare's passage include just two described as 'consumer safety' officers, but 86 tasked with 'criminal investigating' – indicating that the agency is building an army of detectives to sleuth out violations of a law that many in Congress who supported it still find confusing.

On the day President Obama signed the Affordable Care Act into law in 2010, HHS received authority from the Office of Personnel Management (OPM) to make as many as 1,814 new hires under an emergency 'Direct Hiring Authority' order.

The Obama administration ordered


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This is funny on so many levels.

One of which is that NO ONE knows anything about the healthcare - NO ONE. Not doctors, not health insurance salespeople - NO ONE.

Therefore, how can rules be followed if NO ONE knows what the rules are????????

You know the "other levels" of which I speak so I'll cease.


:O-CARE:
 Quoting: Ms. Superduper


I received a bit of an earful from my insurance broker the other day.

I own my own business, and up until recently we were all covered under my wife's employer provided insurance. That changed this month when she was hired on by a company that only offers a stipend against the cost of health insurance, so now we're in the market seeking coverage.

According to my broker, most all insurance companies (with a few exceptions) are forcing all of their customers out of their existing policies starting October 1 of this year, and into policies that are "Obamacare compliant." In fact, you will not be able to buy a "non-Obamacare" compliant policy after October 1.

So, anyone or any (healthy) family that has a high-deductible catastrophic plan with limited benefits will no longer be able to enjoy that plan starting January 1 (or October 1 2013 if you're currently in the market, if with a carrier forcing you into Obamacare).

This will work perfectly fine if you are in the lowest tax bracket, but anything above that (middle class and up) will be absolutely screwed starting January 1. For instance, an "Obamacare compliant plan" for a healthy family of four making $90k or better will likely cost somewhere in the neighborhood of $20,000 per year from what I'm told. Mainly because you will be forced to take on insurance that you don't need and will never use. Lower income tax bracket folks will simply be "subsidized" (by you), so it'll be great for them. Oh, and if you have a pre-existing condition (and you're in a higher tax bracket) expect to pay much more. In fact, I'm guessing that many will find themselves broken by the premiums alone by the end of this - which is the likely intent of those behind this...

So, if you're not yet aware of this (because it sure as hell isn't being advertised or reported), you'd better start doing your research and SCREAMING at your Congressman to defund this travesty (before it is too late) and then repeal it assuming we get the Senate majority in 2014. Otherwise, the impact to this country when all is said and done, to you individually and to your families, will be devastating beyond anything we've ever experienced in our country's history (and this applies to those of you thinking you're about to get a "good deal" with more coverage at no cost). This is a time bomb, it's about to explode, and the overall economic ramifications will ruin everyone in the end.
 Quoting: SaveUSa


Thanks for sharing that with us.

My meeting with the health insurance salesman I already covered. The most meaningful thing he shared is that "we will know more October 1st and I will be notifying everyone of any changes then." The guy was clearly either having a bad day or extremely depressed. I learned little else.
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not to worry

with the 10yr bond rate inching closer to 3%, the govt cant possibly pay the
interest on the debt
AND
the military
AND
welfare recipients
AND now
OBOZO po pos

its unsustainable

he is crashing the system
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I can't wait for it to crash. The thought of millions of stinking nosy-parkers unemployed, screaming in the streets for their non-existent pensions, will bring a smile to my face as I reel in a blueback on an Idaho lake.
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you people make me lol...you would rather spend your trillions on WAR instead of each other?

what a cuntry

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Is the retard strong in Australia? Yall just keep on licking the ancient lizard queens ass. We don't like to support our resident lazy no job having whores.
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The Australian has a good point, or are you still asleep?
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More than 1,600 new employees hired by the U.S. Department of Health and Human Resources in the aftermath of Obamacare's passage include just two described as 'consumer safety' officers, but 86 tasked with 'criminal investigating' – indicating that the agency is building an army of detectives to sleuth out violations of a law that many in Congress who supported it still find confusing.

On the day President Obama signed the Affordable Care Act into law in 2010, HHS received authority from the Office of Personnel Management (OPM) to make as many as 1,814 new hires under an emergency 'Direct Hiring Authority' order.

The Obama administration ordered


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This is funny on so many levels.

One of which is that NO ONE knows anything about the healthcare - NO ONE. Not doctors, not health insurance salespeople - NO ONE.

Therefore, how can rules be followed if NO ONE knows what the rules are????????

You know the "other levels" of which I speak so I'll cease.


:O-CARE:
 Quoting: Ms. Superduper


I received a bit of an earful from my insurance broker the other day.

I own my own business, and up until recently we were all covered under my wife's employer provided insurance. That changed this month when she was hired on by a company that only offers a stipend against the cost of health insurance, so now we're in the market seeking coverage.

According to my broker, most all insurance companies (with a few exceptions) are forcing all of their customers out of their existing policies starting October 1 of this year, and into policies that are "Obamacare compliant." In fact, you will not be able to buy a "non-Obamacare" compliant policy after October 1.

So, anyone or any (healthy) family that has a high-deductible catastrophic plan with limited benefits will no longer be able to enjoy that plan starting January 1 (or October 1 2013 if you're currently in the market, if with a carrier forcing you into Obamacare).

This will work perfectly fine if you are in the lowest tax bracket, but anything above that (middle class and up) will be absolutely screwed starting January 1. For instance, an "Obamacare compliant plan" for a healthy family of four making $90k or better will likely cost somewhere in the neighborhood of $20,000 per year from what I'm told. Mainly because you will be forced to take on insurance that you don't need and will never use. Lower income tax bracket folks will simply be "subsidized" (by you), so it'll be great for them. Oh, and if you have a pre-existing condition (and you're in a higher tax bracket) expect to pay much more. In fact, I'm guessing that many will find themselves broken by the premiums alone by the end of this - which is the likely intent of those behind this...

So, if you're not yet aware of this (because it sure as hell isn't being advertised or reported), you'd better start doing your research and SCREAMING at your Congressman to defund this travesty (before it is too late) and then repeal it assuming we get the Senate majority in 2014. Otherwise, the impact to this country when all is said and done, to you individually and to your families, will be devastating beyond anything we've ever experienced in our country's history (and this applies to those of you thinking you're about to get a "good deal" with more coverage at no cost). This is a time bomb, it's about to explode, and the overall economic ramifications will ruin everyone in the end.
 Quoting: SaveUSa


Thanks for sharing that with us.

My meeting with the health insurance salesman I already covered. The most meaningful thing he shared is that "we will know more October 1st and I will be notifying everyone of any changes then." The guy was clearly either having a bad day or extremely depressed. I learned little else.
 Quoting: Ms. Superduper


You will want to verify this, but from what I understand, Humana, Assurant and United are the only providers out there that are fighting to keep their higher deductible plans in tact (at least through 2014). They may hit you with higher premiums on these plans as a result of the law's impact on their overall program, but at least they are fighting to maintain their customers existing policies (at premiums well below Obamacare compliant plans), and are still offering these same policies to the public until October 1st. After October 1, all bets are off, and most anyone seeking a new policy or carrier will be forced into Obamacare at the super high premiums - regardless of carrier.

So, if you're thinking of changing carriers at all (and you're a mid to upper tax bracket), it is strongly suggested that you do so now.
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it's unbelievable what the Federal Government is making budgets for. what they will find cash for - NSA surveillance and more "enforcement" officers.
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It's clearly Obama's handlers trying to make everything as complicated and as inefficient as possible. I can see nothing good resulting from Obama-care for the ordinary Americans.

I can see a few already extremely wealthy individuals (acting in concert as a tribe) who will become immensely richer.

This is not in the same league, but I'll draw a comparison with something in my neck of the woods which irritates me if I care to think about it:-

Once upon a time our refuse service was great. We all knew that burnable stuff was put out for collection on Mondays and Thursdays and that burnable stuff was out on Wednesdays.

We could use any bag and they even took boxes.

Things like car batteries and similarly hazardous stuff was down to the individuals to dispose of and it cost little bit if you couldn't take it yourself to the place where they stored dangerous rubbish.

Once a month there'd be a day for throwing out large burnable items, and the next month there'd be a day you could put out the large non-burnable stuff - like microwaves and washing machines.

The service was pretty cheap, and the workers were reasonable.

Then it all changed. We had to put stuff in special bags that could only be bought. One colour for burnable and another for non-burnable.

Then they stopped the monthly large-rubbish day and started making us pay for collection based on what it was - and the cost of throwing an old washing machine away was what food would cost a frugal family for a week.

etc-etc. Things got more and more complex and people didn't know why so many bags were being refused and having a sticker on them saying they wouldn't take the bag because what was in it didn't follow the new rules. They never explained what was wrong though. The collection crrews suddenly became experts on what constituted burnable and what didn't, and if there was a piece they thought had come from a domestic appliance then they'd refuse it because their rules said they weren't to pick up domestic appliances because disposal of those items was big money for them.

All along the restricted items' list got longer, and then the halved the size of the bags and tripled the cost.

So a lot of people started dumping their stuff in the mountains - so the council was down to buying a fleet of expensive 4WD vehicles with a new staff and department to patrol the mountains and pay for millions of bright yellow placards on every corner and on every pole in the countryside. They never caught anyone, and this year they have a fleet of even more expensive cars than they had last time and they weren't more than three years old when they decided to get new ones.

The local council, the electrical shops and the private rubbish collection company are all in cahoots to rip off the ordinary citizen. The law does not forbid you taking your old appliances to the council dump, but they'll insist it is illegal and we must take such stuff to electrical shops so they charge us for their disposal.

There is a 'recycling' law, which in truth is voluntary, but we are forced to pay. I even phoned Tokyo government to get the truth of the matter and even though I know the law, the refuse teams won't take stuff which they are obliged to according to the rules and the laws set down.

So a small few are getting rich out of ripping off the people, and even though what they are doing is clearly against the law, the law doesn't matter to them.

And now I'm getting choked with the refuse collection company being paid to burn Fukushima's radioactive trash, but I can't even burn some old leaves in the back garden.

Sorrrrrrrrry! Ranting.

Bloody bureaucrats - they cock everything up just to make themselves money and get power. (Mumbling).

S'cuse me. Carry on with Obamacare now.
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You use the English language better than most Americans.

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More than 1,600 new employees hired by the U.S. Department of Health and Human Resources in the aftermath of Obamacare's passage include just two described as 'consumer safety' officers, but 86 tasked with 'criminal investigating' – indicating that the agency is building an army of detectives to sleuth out violations of a law that many in Congress who supported it still find confusing.

On the day President Obama signed the Affordable Care Act into law in 2010, HHS received authority from the Office of Personnel Management (OPM) to make as many as 1,814 new hires under an emergency 'Direct Hiring Authority' order.

The Obama administration ordered


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This is funny on so many levels.

One of which is that NO ONE knows anything about the healthcare - NO ONE. Not doctors, not health insurance salespeople - NO ONE.

Therefore, how can rules be followed if NO ONE knows what the rules are????????

You know the "other levels" of which I speak so I'll cease.


:O-CARE:
 Quoting: Ms. Superduper


I received a bit of an earful from my insurance broker the other day.

I own my own business, and up until recently we were all covered under my wife's employer provided insurance. That changed this month when she was hired on by a company that only offers a stipend against the cost of health insurance, so now we're in the market seeking coverage.

According to my broker, most all insurance companies (with a few exceptions) are forcing all of their customers out of their existing policies starting October 1 of this year, and into policies that are "Obamacare compliant." In fact, you will not be able to buy a "non-Obamacare" compliant policy after October 1.

So, anyone or any (healthy) family that has a high-deductible catastrophic plan with limited benefits will no longer be able to enjoy that plan starting January 1 (or October 1 2013 if you're currently in the market, if with a carrier forcing you into Obamacare).

This will work perfectly fine if you are in the lowest tax bracket, but anything above that (middle class and up) will be absolutely screwed starting January 1. For instance, an "Obamacare compliant plan" for a healthy family of four making $90k or better will likely cost somewhere in the neighborhood of $20,000 per year from what I'm told. Mainly because you will be forced to take on insurance that you don't need and will never use. Lower income tax bracket folks will simply be "subsidized" (by you), so it'll be great for them. Oh, and if you have a pre-existing condition (and you're in a higher tax bracket) expect to pay much more. In fact, I'm guessing that many will find themselves broken by the premiums alone by the end of this - which is the likely intent of those behind this...

So, if you're not yet aware of this (because it sure as hell isn't being advertised or reported), you'd better start doing your research and SCREAMING at your Congressman to defund this travesty (before it is too late) and then repeal it assuming we get the Senate majority in 2014. Otherwise, the impact to this country when all is said and done, to you individually and to your families, will be devastating beyond anything we've ever experienced in our country's history (and this applies to those of you thinking you're about to get a "good deal" with more coverage at no cost). This is a time bomb, it's about to explode, and the overall economic ramifications will ruin everyone in the end.
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Thanks for sharing that with us.

My meeting with the health insurance salesman I already covered. The most meaningful thing he shared is that "we will know more October 1st and I will be notifying everyone of any changes then." The guy was clearly either having a bad day or extremely depressed. I learned little else.
 Quoting: Ms. Superduper


You will want to verify this, but from what I understand, Humana, Assurant and United are the only providers out there that are fighting to keep their higher deductible plans in tact (at least through 2014). They may hit you with higher premiums on these plans as a result of the law's impact on their overall program, but at least they are fighting to maintain their customers existing policies (at premiums well below Obamacare compliant plans), and are still offering these same policies to the public until October 1st. After October 1, all bets are off, and most anyone seeking a new policy or carrier will be forced into Obamacare at the super high premiums - regardless of carrier.

So, if you're thinking of changing carriers at all (and you're a mid to upper tax bracket), it is strongly suggested that you do so now.
 Quoting: SaveUSa


Thanks and God bless.
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And Jesus is at the door.
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speaking of Jesus - his birthday is today!!!

HAPPY BIRTHDAY JESUS

cheers banana2chorus hugs
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Really, is this true?
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Actually, his birthday was yesterday

From The Urantia Book:


8. The Birth of Jesus

(1351.5) 122:8.1 All that night Mary was restless so that neither of them slept much. By the break of day the pangs of childbirth were well in evidence, and at noon, August 21, 7 B.C., with the help and kind ministrations of women fellow travelers, Mary was delivered of a male child. Jesus of Nazareth was born into the world, was wrapped in the clothes which Mary had brought along for such a possible contingency, and laid in a near-by manger.


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Happy Birthday!!!

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IMO they wanna DO STUFF TO US medically.

I plan to pay the penalty fee for not participating.

If everyone did that, the penalty would probably be changed to jail.
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Well they do have those nice new camps now. Guess they should be put to good use.
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Well now. Someone gave me red karma for mentioning Jesus. Hmmm. OH NOES.

I must say that it is not me that you have the problem with. It is Jesus Christ. Therefore, what does that make your spirit? Also, you protest too much about this.

Jesus still loves you and so do I. Also he saved me from alcoholism, death, darkness and more. I don't care what you think darlin'. I shall never, ever apologize for the name of Jesus!

I have been set free. Also, this is the primary reason I will not be participating in the socialized healthcare. My soul is not for sale.

Shalom.

Last Edited by Ms. Superduper on 08/22/2013 03:59 PM
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