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LEAKED: German Government Warns Key Entities Not To Use Windows 8 – Links The NSA

 
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According to leaked internal documents from the German Federal Office for Information Security (BSI) that Die Zeit obtained, IT experts figured out that Windows 8, the touch-screen enabled, super-duper, but sales-challenged Microsoft operating system is outright dangerous for data security. It allows Microsoft to control the computer remotely through a built-in backdoor. Keys to that backdoor are likely accessible to the NSA – and in an unintended ironic twist, perhaps even to the Chinese.

The backdoor is called “Trusted Computing,” developed and promoted by the Trusted Computing Group, founded a decade ago by the all-American tech companies AMD, Cisco, Hewlett-Packard, IBM, Intel, Microsoft, and Wave Systems. Its core element is a chip, the Trusted Platform Module (TPM), and an operating system designed for it, such as Windows 8. Trusted Computing Group has developed the specifications of how the chip and operating systems work together.

Its purpose is Digital Rights Management and computer security. The system decides what software had been legally obtained and would be allowed to run on the computer, and what software, such as illegal copies or viruses and Trojans, should be disabled. The whole process would be governed by Windows, and through remote access, by Microsoft.

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No it is true I read about windows 8 having backdoor access via new generation AMD & Intel processors.. My guess is there is already one there with current generation tech they are just notifying us all now.
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No question about it... the governments believe the people are the enemy quite obviously.

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I run Linux exclusively. Anybody with any sense has known for years that windows is just a big giant security hole.
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I chose windows 7
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I run Linux exclusively. Anybody with any sense has known for years that windows is just a big giant security hole.
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Re: LEAKED: German Government Warns Key Entities Not To Use Windows 8 – Links The NSA
Been screaming for 2 years that everyone should give one of the MANY distrobutions of Linux!

There are plenty of flavors to appeal to almost everyone. For those a little scared of it...I reccommend Linux Mint KDE.

Feels a lot like windows, is extremely elegant and incredibly stable..

And for those that say...I need to run software that only runs on windows...I have yet been unable to get a program to run under Linux.

Please PLEASE people! Shed your misconceptions! Try Linux!
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Thanks for the info !
I'm keeping my Windows 7 for sure, even though it's probably not safer...

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This is no secret

All Windows versions have been known to have spy programs embedded in their OS
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Re: LEAKED: German Government Warns Key Entities Not To Use Windows 8 – Links The NSA
Been screaming for 2 years that everyone should give one of the MANY distrobutions of Linux!

There are plenty of flavors to appeal to almost everyone. For those a little scared of it...I reccommend Linux Mint KDE.

Feels a lot like windows, is extremely elegant and incredibly stable..

And for those that say...I need to run software that only runs on windows...I have yet been unable to get a program to run under Linux.

Please PLEASE people! Shed your misconceptions! Try Linux!
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It will be next on the government's list as soon as there are enough users. Probably already in the works for a roll out plan.
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Been screaming for 2 years that everyone should give one of the MANY distrobutions of Linux!

There are plenty of flavors to appeal to almost everyone. For those a little scared of it...I reccommend Linux Mint KDE.

Feels a lot like windows, is extremely elegant and incredibly stable..

And for those that say...I need to run software that only runs on windows...I have yet been unable to get a program to run under Linux.

Please PLEASE people! Shed your misconceptions! Try Linux!
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It will be next on the government's list as soon as there are enough users. Probably already in the works for a roll out plan.
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Its not possible because Linux is not owned by a company and anyone can make a new distro. Its open source.
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Re: LEAKED: German Government Warns Key Entities Not To Use Windows 8 – Links The NSA
Been screaming for 2 years that everyone should give one of the MANY distrobutions of Linux!

There are plenty of flavors to appeal to almost everyone. For those a little scared of it...I reccommend Linux Mint KDE.

Feels a lot like windows, is extremely elegant and incredibly stable..

And for those that say...I need to run software that only runs on windows...I have yet been unable to get a program to run under Linux.

Please PLEASE people! Shed your misconceptions! Try Linux!
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It will be next on the government's list as soon as there are enough users. Probably already in the works for a roll out plan.
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Actually you are probably dead on the mark.

Hopefully there will be enough watchdogs that understand the code and can detect the attempted implementation of back door access or something similar.

God bless Open Source Code!
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Been screaming for 2 years that everyone should give one of the MANY distrobutions of Linux!

There are plenty of flavors to appeal to almost everyone. For those a little scared of it...I reccommend Linux Mint KDE.

Feels a lot like windows, is extremely elegant and incredibly stable..

And for those that say...I need to run software that only runs on windows...I have yet been unable to get a program to run under Linux.

Please PLEASE people! Shed your misconceptions! Try Linux!
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It will be next on the government's list as soon as there are enough users. Probably already in the works for a roll out plan.
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Its not possible because Linux is not owned by a company and anyone can make a new distro. Its open source.
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Anything is possible.
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Much thanks for pin!
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Russia will adopt a derivative of Linux as its official OS in a couple of years (2015 I believe). That should tell you something. Same people who brought you one of the most eficient platforms in public use - nginx, the platform GLP uses. That should give you an idea...
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Re: LEAKED: German Government Warns Key Entities Not To Use Windows 8 – Links The NSA
Been screaming for 2 years that everyone should give one of the MANY distrobutions of Linux!

There are plenty of flavors to appeal to almost everyone. For those a little scared of it...I reccommend Linux Mint KDE.

Feels a lot like windows, is extremely elegant and incredibly stable..

And for those that say...I need to run software that only runs on windows...I have yet been unable to get a program to run under Linux.

Please PLEASE people! Shed your misconceptions! Try Linux!
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I tried but I can't get Ubuntu to install. I have new components, but no Linux will install. Not sure if my BIOS is doing something to the install process or not. It always locks up.
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Been screaming for 2 years that everyone should give one of the MANY distrobutions of Linux!

There are plenty of flavors to appeal to almost everyone. For those a little scared of it...I reccommend Linux Mint KDE.

Feels a lot like windows, is extremely elegant and incredibly stable..

And for those that say...I need to run software that only runs on windows...I have yet been unable to get a program to run under Linux.

Please PLEASE people! Shed your misconceptions! Try Linux!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25737419


I tried but I can't get Ubuntu to install. I have new components, but no Linux will install. Not sure if my BIOS is doing something to the install process or not. It always locks up.
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Yes if you have a new laptop....you need disable UEFI in the bios.

That was microscrews attempt to create a locked boot loader to prevent people from installing linux.
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Russia will adopt a derivative of Linux as its official OS in a couple of years (2015 I believe). That should tell you something. Same people who brought you one of the most eficient platforms in public use - nginx, the platform GLP uses. That should give you an idea...
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To clarify, a Russian programmer developed nginx. This goes back to the days when post Perestroika collapse Russia was barely entering the computer age. Russians, working on older, substandard systems, many of them purchased second hand, were having trouble keeping up with the rest of the world in the sphere of web hosting. Enter nginx - an amazingly compact, super eficient server-side OS enhancement to UNIX, the engine running a healthy percentage of the world's web hosting servers. The rest is history...
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Been screaming for 2 years that everyone should give one of the MANY distrobutions of Linux!

There are plenty of flavors to appeal to almost everyone. For those a little scared of it...I reccommend Linux Mint KDE.

Feels a lot like windows, is extremely elegant and incredibly stable..

And for those that say...I need to run software that only runs on windows...I have yet been unable to get a program to run under Linux.

Please PLEASE people! Shed your misconceptions! Try Linux!
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I tried but I can't get Ubuntu to install. I have new components, but no Linux will install. Not sure if my BIOS is doing something to the install process or not. It always locks up.
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Do you have UEFI BIOS? If so you have to make some changes sometimes. You can find tutorials or just mess with stuff until it works. Also, anytime you burn an ISO you should verify the checksums. If they don't match then some data was corrupted, either by accident or you're getting a compromised image.

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Been screaming for 2 years that everyone should give one of the MANY distrobutions of Linux!

There are plenty of flavors to appeal to almost everyone. For those a little scared of it...I reccommend Linux Mint KDE.

Feels a lot like windows, is extremely elegant and incredibly stable..

And for those that say...I need to run software that only runs on windows...I have yet been unable to get a program to run under Linux.

Please PLEASE people! Shed your misconceptions! Try Linux!
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I tried but I can't get Ubuntu to install. I have new components, but no Linux will install. Not sure if my BIOS is doing something to the install process or not. It always locks up.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36057592


Yes if you have a new laptop....you need disable UEFI in the bios.

That was microscrews attempt to create a locked boot loader to prevent people from installing linux.
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In addition...many new computers housing a Windows 7/8 installation also have one or two extra partitions dedicated to manufacturer Restore files. That or those would have to be backed up and deleted in order to be able to multi-boot the system into multiple installed OSs. Plenty of forum/blog posts on this and you tube videos. Look for info pertaining to your specific model, as it can get tricky.
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Linux is vulnerable to corrupted code from source just like any other OS. However, it will not go unnoticed. All the code gets gone over again and again by thousands of developers who have to modify their own packages to suit any changes made. People will know very quickly if malicious code gets inserted.

Also, Linux is more secure by it's very nature and that will never change. It's just what Linux is.

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This is no secret

All Windows versions have been known to have spy programs embedded in their OS
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Exactly.

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I have one of each. Thanks for the info. and the thread though. Thank you very much. I shall act accordingly.
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Been screaming for 2 years that everyone should give one of the MANY distrobutions of Linux!

There are plenty of flavors to appeal to almost everyone. For those a little scared of it...I reccommend Linux Mint KDE.

Feels a lot like windows, is extremely elegant and incredibly stable..

And for those that say...I need to run software that only runs on windows...I have yet been unable to get a program to run under Linux.

Please PLEASE people! Shed your misconceptions! Try Linux!
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It will be next on the government's list as soon as there are enough users. Probably already in the works for a roll out plan.
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Its not possible because Linux is not owned by a company and anyone can make a new distro. Its open source.
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Anything is possible.
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Even if so, you could just take it out of the source code and recompile.
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This is no secret

All Windows versions have been known to have spy programs embedded in their OS
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Do the usual Ctrl Alt & Delete

Start the Task Manager

End the process Mom.exe

Safe after that :)
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It will be next on the government's list as soon as there are enough users. Probably already in the works for a roll out plan.
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Its not possible because Linux is not owned by a company and anyone can make a new distro. Its open source.
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Anything is possible.
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Even if so, you could just take it out of the source code and recompile.
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Not viable for most people. Or, viable only until the next (auto)update. mine's always turned off, for all software. Most users out there, though?

China is developing their own internet... overtly. Russia and other nations... (semi)covertly. That will be the only escape, because once TPTB feel threatened enough, the Internet Kill Switch will go in efect. I've got my eye on all fences; which ones I can scale/jump over in case of TSHTF. Perhaps you too. What about most everyday folks out there?
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Linux is too buildable for anybody to insert anything that can't be removed or disabled. Too many custom kernels being compiled, too many OS variants, too much diversity, too much user competence, and too many IT libertarians involved in the project.

I don't know how Linux could ever be compromised without a solution spreading through the community like wild fire.
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It will be next on the government's list as soon as there are enough users. Probably already in the works for a roll out plan.
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Its not possible because Linux is not owned by a company and anyone can make a new distro. Its open source.
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Anything is possible.
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Even if so, you could just take it out of the source code and recompile.
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You guys who think linux will save you need to think broader. What does any OS run on? The common denominator is hardware.
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Related:
For the Mac crowd:
"Intel's new Sandy Bridge processors have a new feature that the chip giant is calling Anti-Theft 3.0. The processor can be disabled even if the computer has no Internet connection or isn't even turned on, over a 3G network. With Intel anti-theft technology built into Sandy Bridge, David Allen, director of distribution sales at Intel North America, told ITBusiness that users have the option to set up their processor so that if their computer is lost or stolen, it can be shut down remotely."

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Also:

"Last week, the tech world was rocked by reports that Apple was patenting tech nology that would allow outsiders to remotely shut off the camera in an iPhone."

[link to www.nypost.com]

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