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LEAKED: German Government Warns Key Entities Not To Use Windows 8 – Links The NSA

 
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I would like to take out 8 and replace with 7. Is this possible at a reasonable price, ya think?
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Also:

"Last week, the tech world was rocked by reports that Apple was patenting tech nology that would allow outsiders to remotely shut off the camera in an iPhone."

[link to www.nypost.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21663071


Creepy. Creepy as well are the cars that are remotely controlled, turned on and off, etc. (No question in my mind about Michael Hastings).

I do not own any of that Iphone, SmartPhone stuff. Don't want it.
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According to leaked internal documents from the German Federal Office for Information Security (BSI) that Die Zeit obtained, IT experts figured out that Windows 8, the touch-screen enabled, super-duper, but sales-challenged Microsoft operating system is outright dangerous for data security. It allows Microsoft to control the computer remotely through a built-in backdoor. Keys to that backdoor are likely accessible to the NSA – and in an unintended ironic twist, perhaps even to the Chinese.

The backdoor is called “Trusted Computing,” developed and promoted by the Trusted Computing Group, founded a decade ago by the all-American tech companies AMD, Cisco, Hewlett-Packard, IBM, Intel, Microsoft, and Wave Systems. Its core element is a chip, the Trusted Platform Module (TPM), and an operating system designed for it, such as Windows 8. Trusted Computing Group has developed the specifications of how the chip and operating systems work together.

Its purpose is Digital Rights Management and computer security. The system decides what software had been legally obtained and would be allowed to run on the computer, and what software, such as illegal copies or viruses and Trojans, should be disabled. The whole process would be governed by Windows, and through remote access, by Microsoft.

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Is the German government the only one issuing such a warning ? Apparently it is. Makes you think....
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How safe are Apples? Under the eye candy the OS is linux based. What does the Sandy Bridge thing mean exactly?
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How safe are Apples? Under the eye candy the OS is linux based. What does the Sandy Bridge thing mean exactly?
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OSX isn't linux underneath, it's a closed version of unix pirated from freeBSD.

It looks the same at the command line, but it's proprietary like WinBlows.

Not safe at all.
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Related today from Martin Armstrong:

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The religion of submission cannot survive an open and honest discussion of its convoluted and foolish scriptures, its sexually perverted terrorist prophet, or its deceitful and demented god. When Western leaders become unified and resolute in their hostility to Islam's violent and ungodly beginnings, Muslims will flee the religion because they will be horrified by its endorsement of terrorism, mass murder, slave trading, plunder, kidnapping, and rape.

If Muslims & their apologists really want to cure "Islamophobia," here is an easy way. Focus their indignation on Muslims committing violent acts in the name of Islam, not on non-Muslims reporting on those acts.

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We are all born ignorant, but it takes a lot of work to keep looking the other way to remain stupid.

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How safe are Apples? Under the eye candy the OS is linux based. What does the Sandy Bridge thing mean exactly?
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OSX isn't linux underneath, it's a closed version of unix pirated from freeBSD.

It looks the same at the command line, but it's proprietary like WinBlows.

Not safe at all.
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Ok then so it really is a Linux scenario to be secure.
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Oh wait…remember that some Lenovo laptops have back doors built into the hardware itself. That is true for sure per the Feds. I can't see how just Lenovo is doing this.

Maybe an old computer running Linux?
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Oh wait…remember that some Lenovo laptops have back doors built into the hardware itself. That is true for sure per the Feds. I can't see how just Lenovo is doing this.

Maybe an old computer running Linux?
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Aren't you sure of this ? Isn't Lenovo Chinese ?
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How safe are Apples? Under the eye candy the OS is linux based. What does the Sandy Bridge thing mean exactly?
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OSX isn't linux underneath, it's a closed version of unix pirated from freeBSD.

It looks the same at the command line, but it's proprietary like WinBlows.

Not safe at all.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45034213


Ok then so it really is a Linux scenario to be secure.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45577794


Lets not forget that an attempt was already made by someone or some organization to insert a backdoor. It was really a rather elegant piece of code.

[link to freedom-to-tinker.com (secure)]

It was sniffed out and I believe, because of this, they are ever more vigilant in checking for this very thing.

I am extremely grateful for the failed attempt. Keeps everyone on their toes.
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Ok so…IF they cannot get into your computer remotely…so what? They already monitor internet traffic, emails, and you cell phone activity, location and so forth.

I wonder if they will just deduct speeding tickets from your bank account if they see you phone travelled too fast down some road. I mean, they can tell.
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Ok so…IF they cannot get into your computer remotely…so what? They already monitor internet traffic, emails, and you cell phone activity, location and so forth.

I wonder if they will just deduct speeding tickets from your bank account if they see you phone travelled too fast down some road. I mean, they can tell.
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Just wait until you are accused of being a pedo with all those pictures on your computer.

You'll start to understand while you are carted off to jail.
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old proccesors maybe will more valueable the nexts generations
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I would like to take out 8 and replace with 7. Is this possible at a reasonable price, ya think?
 Quoting: Ms. Superduper


Yes.
You can buy Windows 7 (if you do not already own a licensed copy that is) for $150.

If you purchased a computer that was sold with Windows 8, you have to go into the BIOS and set it for "Legacy" (which means Windows 7 or earlier)

Then boot up with your Windows 7 DVD or Flash drive and install it.

I've done this for a few of my friends now, per their request.

You might want to find a computer geek that you trust to do this, if you need to.
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Attention Linux unix

Hackers are now writing exclusively for unix Linus they want to crash big mainframes hahhaha

Only a matter of time before it all goes to hell

U won't be checking your account balance on toilet anymore
I know why you're here...
I know what you've been doing...
I know why you hardly sleep...why you live alone...
and why night after night you sit at your computer...
You're looking for an answer...


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This is no secret

All Windows versions have been known to have spy programs embedded in their OS
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Do the usual Ctrl Alt & Delete

Start the Task Manager

End the process Mom.exe

Safe after that :)
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What is mom.exe ?
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Much thanks for pin!
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WB!

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How safe are Apples? Under the eye candy the OS is linux based. What does the Sandy Bridge thing mean exactly?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45577794


It means the sandy bridge CPU itself (also found in mac mini's) can not only be remotely turned off, but 'kill switched' without you even going on line... By a third party.
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old proccesors maybe will more valueable the nexts generations
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I really liked my old Motorola StarTac phone. It was small, worked great and was very rugged. No features, and a black and white screen.
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I would like to take out 8 and replace with 7. Is this possible at a reasonable price, ya think?
 Quoting: Ms. Superduper


Yes.
You can buy Windows 7 (if you do not already own a licensed copy that is) for $150.

If you purchased a computer that was sold with Windows 8, you have to go into the BIOS and set it for "Legacy" (which means Windows 7 or earlier)

Then boot up with your Windows 7 DVD or Flash drive and install it.

I've done this for a few of my friends now, per their request.

You might want to find a computer geek that you trust to do this, if you need to.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44143797


I have a desk top with windows 7, and laptop with 8. Laptop unfortunately is the one mentioned here - Lenovo. Baaah! I can do everything much easier on the 7 anyway.

So I could use the 7 from my desktop and place in my laptop?

Thanks for your response.

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I would like to take out 8 and replace with 7. Is this possible at a reasonable price, ya think?
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Here are direct links from Microsoft to download the iso's which you burn into a cd to mak an installation disk or you can use the windows 7 usb tool to load from a stick.

[link to forums.mydigitallife.info]

Bottom two links are the ones you want weather X64 for more than 4 gigs of ram or x86 for 4 or less.

Follow think link for help installing, start at step 3 after you get your iso.

[link to forums.mydigitallife.info]

Then find something on that site called daz's loader to activate it.

You can ask for help their as well, its a forum and people are very helpful.

Best Wishes

PS This is all free

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Re: LEAKED: German Government Warns Key Entities Not To Use Windows 8 – Links The NSA
Been screaming for 2 years that everyone should give one of the MANY distrobutions of Linux!

There are plenty of flavors to appeal to almost everyone. For those a little scared of it...I reccommend Linux Mint KDE.

Feels a lot like windows, is extremely elegant and incredibly stable..

And for those that say...I need to run software that only runs on windows...I have yet been unable to get a program to run under Linux.

Please PLEASE people! Shed your misconceptions! Try Linux!
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I tried but I can't get Ubuntu to install. I have new components, but no Linux will install. Not sure if my BIOS is doing something to the install process or not. It always locks up.
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You have to disabled efi/secure boot in the bios and enable traditional bios booting
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According to leaked internal documents from the German Federal Office for Information Security (BSI) that Die Zeit obtained, IT experts figured out that Windows 8, the touch-screen enabled, super-duper, but sales-challenged Microsoft operating system is outright dangerous for data security. It allows Microsoft to control the computer remotely through a built-in backdoor. Keys to that backdoor are likely accessible to the NSA – and in an unintended ironic twist, perhaps even to the Chinese.

The backdoor is called “Trusted Computing,” developed and promoted by the Trusted Computing Group, founded a decade ago by the all-American tech companies AMD, Cisco, Hewlett-Packard, IBM, Intel, Microsoft, and Wave Systems. Its core element is a chip, the Trusted Platform Module (TPM), and an operating system designed for it, such as Windows 8. Trusted Computing Group has developed the specifications of how the chip and operating systems work together.

Its purpose is Digital Rights Management and computer security. The system decides what software had been legally obtained and would be allowed to run on the computer, and what software, such as illegal copies or viruses and Trojans, should be disabled. The whole process would be governed by Windows, and through remote access, by Microsoft.

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Also on that same page...

Fukushima: another sign of TEPCO's shoddy handling of the aftermath of the nuclear disaster. The 300 metric tons of highly contaminated, radioactive water that leaked from one of the 350 tanks that each can hold up to 1,000 tons of this stuff? Turns out, TEPCO, the mega-utility that owns the plant and that has become widely known for its lackadaisical handling of just about every aspect of the disaster, has given critics another round of ammunition. It failed to install a simple water gauge in the tank that could have told it when the water level started to drop so that workers could have found the leak right up front. Not to speak of the leak itself: that’s the fourth tank that leaked. [Read the read at the like below (same link as above)] on the right side of the page under the heading

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I run Linux exclusively. Anybody with any sense has known for years that windows is just a big giant security hole.
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wat u do if u computer come with internet exporer?
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Yeah. I'm gonna' get the computer guy to help. I also have another laptop that needs some attention, Acer.

I love my desktop with word 7. Just have to get it over here.

So the dude is gonna be busy.
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I tried but I can't get Ubuntu to install. I have new components, but no Linux will install. Not sure if my BIOS is doing something to the install process or not. It always locks up.
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Is anyone on GLP really surprised at this? If so... abandon the Microsoft ship now... while you still can. If you're a gamer, setup a dual boot environment. For everything else, use Linux.

Peace.
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Is anyone on GLP really surprised at this? If so... abandon the Microsoft ship now... while you still can. If you're a gamer, setup a dual boot environment. For everything else, use Linux.

Peace.
 Quoting: DigitalFoo


I should add that all of these "new" Win 8 laptops with the touch screens are largely using EUFI technology that prevents traditional installations of Linux and requires some hacking to get around it. In short, MS is trying to force people into buying hardware that only Win 8 will run on.

Instead of buying Windows laptops/computers from your local NSA friendly store, how about considering buying a computer with Linux pre-installed from alternative vendors?

...
[link to linuxpreloaded.com]
[link to www.pcworld.com]
[link to zareason.com]
...


It's 2013 FFS... if you value your privacy even remotely, Windows is not your friend. Pretty sure Apple is not too far behind on the evil genius NSA spying shit either.

tl;dr

Quit buying Microsoft shiite and regain your privacy.

Peace.

Last Edited by digitalFoo on 08/22/2013 04:05 PM
"The paradigm of science is that creation is all, and the creator is nothing. Religion says the creator is all, and the creation is nothing. These two extremes are the bars of a prison cell. They prevent observation of all phenomenon as an interactive whole." -- Airl
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GREAT. Not that I have anything to hide but just great.
Abuse the masses to reach a few.
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This simply makes it faster for them to access our computers.

If you are connected to any external source, they have access regardless if you're on mac, PC Windows or linux.

Only way to assist in deterring this is by using Tor and the like imo.

Last Edited by Lightning Chakra on 08/22/2013 04:49 PM
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