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Indeed there is no more time to waste if you are already living on borrowed time.

I would suggest to ignore all atom boy wannabees that means we don't waste any time responding to these clowns and it means less scrolling while reading the thread.

Wadda you 2 birds with one stone.

I was thinking how the hell are the gonna remove these 1300 fuelrods?
Think about it, they can't enter the building because of the high dosis. They have to do this by hand cause the computerized system that was build to do it was destroyed.

They can't even prevent tanks from leaking, they can't even stop contaminated water from entering the passific.

So how are they gonna remove 1300 fuel rods without being able to enter the area, removing them one by one, without letting them drop. All this with the danger of thypoons, earthquakes, leaking tanks and 3 cores in china syndrome mode. I don't think they can do it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1527598


They can and have entered unit 4 reactor building.
That reactor was down for relining.
The core was removed.
 Quoting: Waterbug


But that was before those tanks began to leak. Those tanks contain water that give of 10 rem per hour. The acceptable dose for nuclear workers is 2 rem per year.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1527598


They should have shields in place to operate the new fuel assembly removal crane system.
Even so, operators will surely suffer high exposures.
That is also a problem..
An operator will have gained experience and technique, only to be replaced after a short time..

I don't have a lot of faith that they will be capable to do what they seem to feel that they are.
They could end up making the situation worse.. as they have in the past.
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"It is much worse than we have been led to believe, much worse," said Mr Schneider, who is lead author for the World Nuclear Industry status reports.

At news conference, the head of Japan's nuclear regulation authority Shunichi Tanaka appeared to give credence to Mr Schneider's concerns, saying that he feared there would be further leaks.

``We should assume that what has happened once could happen again, and prepare for more. We are in a situation where there is no time to waste," he told reporters.


[link to www.bbc.co.uk]


rantlots of rants today
 Quoting: Goofy for God


Leuren Moret said it was worse than anyone could imagine. I talked a lot about it on Rapid Fire, people had a hard time believing it then.
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Indeed there is no more time to waste if you are already living on borrowed time.

I would suggest to ignore all atom boy wannabees that means we don't waste any time responding to these clowns and it means less scrolling while reading the thread.

Wadda you 2 birds with one stone.

I was thinking how the hell are the gonna remove these 1300 fuelrods?
Think about it, they can't enter the building because of the high dosis. They have to do this by hand cause the computerized system that was build to do it was destroyed.

They can't even prevent tanks from leaking, they can't even stop contaminated water from entering the passific.

So how are they gonna remove 1300 fuel rods without being able to enter the area, removing them one by one, without letting them drop. All this with the danger of thypoons, earthquakes, leaking tanks and 3 cores in china syndrome mode. I don't think they can do it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1527598


They can and have entered unit 4 reactor building.
That reactor was down for relining.
The core was removed.
 Quoting: Waterbug


But that was before those tanks began to leak. Those tanks contain water that give of 10 rem per hour. The acceptable dose for nuclear workers is 2 rem per year.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1527598


They should have shields in place to operate the new fuel assembly removal crane system.
Even so, operators will surely suffer high exposures.
That is also a problem..
An operator will have gained experience and technique, only to be replaced after a short time..

I don't have a lot of faith that they will be capable to do what they seem to feel that they are.
They could end up making the situation worse.. as they have in the past.
 Quoting: Waterbug

Actually, I don't think they have any options anymore. By pumping in the amount of water they have in order to keep things relatively cool. They have completely saturated that area to the point that building foundations are in danger of sinking and collapsing. They know that they have to, above all else get those remaining fuel rods out of there before that happens.
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I have a serious question...well, serious to me and maybe to others, too.
Why is it, on the Nuclear Emergency Tracker:
[link to www.netc.com]
Why is it that Fukushima and areas surrounding, always show that radioactivity is within normal limits??? It doesn't make sense. We see all of this stuff in the news about how it is leaking hundreds of tons upon tons of this stuff into the nearby ocean, as well as the stuff is stored in the ground all around but yet their radioactivity is WITHIN NORMAL LIMITS!!! How can that be?

Could someone please explain that to me, pretty please?
 Quoting: BoBerry 27279655


Because the Radiation from the Water leak, for example, is linked/ ligated
in to the Water but not in to the Atmosphere!

Also this 300 Tones a 24 Hour leak leaks directly in to the Kuroshio Sea Current
which is immense with 50.000.000 (50 Mio) Tones a Second
directly in front of the Plant,
ergo: the Radiated Water get diluted very quick!

Netc is looking in a different Energy Range than any other Stations
and their Equipment is rather simple compared to real Stations,
also they look for Counts per Minute while the Japanese ones look
for Nano-Grays or/ and Nano-Sievert/ or Micro-Sievert!

And, as i said, you People may have a very bad imagination about
F'Shima or they found a way to trick every single Geiger-Counter here in Nippon!
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Fukushima leak is 'much worse than we were led to believe' !! UPDATED) Study shows Fukushima nuclear pollution becoming more concentrated
 Quoting: Goofy for God


If you have been paying attention, this is not news to you.

sheepmilk
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Indeed there is no more time to waste if you are already living on borrowed time.

I would suggest to ignore all atom boy wannabees that means we don't waste any time responding to these clowns and it means less scrolling while reading the thread.

Wadda you 2 birds with one stone.

I was thinking how the hell are the gonna remove these 1300 fuelrods?
Think about it, they can't enter the building because of the high dosis. They have to do this by hand cause the computerized system that was build to do it was destroyed.

They can't even prevent tanks from leaking, they can't even stop contaminated water from entering the passific.

So how are they gonna remove 1300 fuel rods without being able to enter the area, removing them one by one, without letting them drop. All this with the danger of thypoons, earthquakes, leaking tanks and 3 cores in china syndrome mode. I don't think they can do it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1527598


I used similar reasoning as yours to come up with the idea that moving the fuel rods is a complete fraud imho.

IMHO, TEPCO will pretend to move the fuel rods and bask in the glory of fake greatness while they report success after success....

But it will all be fake. Nothing will be moved.

The other shoe will drop when building four collapses sometime in the next 10 years and the reaction will be...

CRAP, they lied to us again, DAMN!

People are really stupid, trusting TEPCO is just like trusting Bush or Obama...
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I have a serious question...well, serious to me and maybe to others, too.
Why is it, on the Nuclear Emergency Tracker:
[link to www.netc.com]
Why is it that Fukushima and areas surrounding, always show that radioactivity is within normal limits??? It doesn't make sense. We see all of this stuff in the news about how it is leaking hundreds of tons upon tons of this stuff into the nearby ocean, as well as the stuff is stored in the ground all around but yet their radioactivity is WITHIN NORMAL LIMITS!!! How can that be?

Could someone please explain that to me, pretty please?
 Quoting: BoBerry 27279655


Because the Radiation from the Water leak, for example, is linked/ ligated
in to the Water but not in to the Atmosphere!

Also this 300 Tones a 24 Hour leak leaks directly in to the Kuroshio Sea Current
which is immense with 50.000.000 (50 Mio) Tones a Second
directly in front of the Plant,
ergo: the Radiated Water get diluted very quick!

Netc is looking in a different Energy Range than any other Stations
and their Equipment is rather simple compared to real Stations,
also they look for Counts per Minute while the Japanese ones look
for Nano-Grays or/ and Nano-Sievert/ or Micro-Sievert!

And, as i said, you People may have a very bad imagination about
F'Shima or they found a way to trick every single Geiger-Counter here in Nippon!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45521023


iamwith

Wow, that is some kind of turd polishing right there.

"Look, I am consuming my own shit! I feed myself! It is very safe!"
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I/ we estimate/d that we will see at least 250-500 similar Incidents until
the Plant come even close to the dismantling of the Cores!

It is stupid what you are doing, don't celebrate every News from the Plant
as the end of your World.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45521023


You Nips are cowards.

SHAME ON YOUR HOUSES.

SHAME ON YOUR ANCESTORS.

You talk and do nothing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45544114


..ya
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I have a serious question...well, serious to me and maybe to others, too.
Why is it, on the Nuclear Emergency Tracker:
[link to www.netc.com]
Why is it that Fukushima and areas surrounding, always show that radioactivity is within normal limits??? It doesn't make sense. We see all of this stuff in the news about how it is leaking hundreds of tons upon tons of this stuff into the nearby ocean, as well as the stuff is stored in the ground all around but yet their radioactivity is WITHIN NORMAL LIMITS!!! How can that be?

Could someone please explain that to me, pretty please?
 Quoting: BoBerry 27279655


Because the Radiation from the Water leak, for example, is linked/ ligated
in to the Water but not in to the Atmosphere!

Also this 300 Tones a 24 Hour leak leaks directly in to the Kuroshio Sea Current
which is immense with 50.000.000 (50 Mio) Tones a Second
directly in front of the Plant,
ergo: the Radiated Water get diluted very quick!

Netc is looking in a different Energy Range than any other Stations
and their Equipment is rather simple compared to real Stations,
also they look for Counts per Minute while the Japanese ones look
for Nano-Grays or/ and Nano-Sievert/ or Micro-Sievert!

And, as i said, you People may have a very bad imagination about
F'Shima or they found a way to trick every single Geiger-Counter here in Nippon!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45521023


iamwith

Wow, that is some kind of turd polishing right there.

"Look, I am consuming my own shit! I feed myself! It is very safe!"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4466048


It is not us who consume this polished Shite but you,
we just go south of Fukushima and get fresh and "unshitted Fish"
while we flush all the contaminated Water in front of your Beachhouse!

You see?
There is no need to discuss this problem in your way!
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They can and have entered unit 4 reactor building.
That reactor was down for relining.
The core was removed.
 Quoting: Waterbug


But that was before those tanks began to leak. Those tanks contain water that give of 10 rem per hour. The acceptable dose for nuclear workers is 2 rem per year.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1527598


They should have shields in place to operate the new fuel assembly removal crane system.
Even so, operators will surely suffer high exposures.
That is also a problem..
An operator will have gained experience and technique, only to be replaced after a short time..

I don't have a lot of faith that they will be capable to do what they seem to feel that they are.
They could end up making the situation worse.. as they have in the past.
 Quoting: Waterbug

Actually, I don't think they have any options anymore. By pumping in the amount of water they have in order to keep things relatively cool. They have completely saturated that area to the point that building foundations are in danger of sinking and collapsing. They know that they have to, above all else get those remaining fuel rods out of there before that happens.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17938575


I agree. They have to try.
They've been lucky so far.. 2707 quakes since 3.11.11.
[link to www.japanquakemap.com]

The next big one could happen at any time.
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Indeed there is no more time to waste if you are already living on borrowed time.

I would suggest to ignore all atom boy wannabees that means we don't waste any time responding to these clowns and it means less scrolling while reading the thread.

Wadda you 2 birds with one stone.

I was thinking how the hell are the gonna remove these 1300 fuelrods?
Think about it, they can't enter the building because of the high dosis. They have to do this by hand cause the computerized system that was build to do it was destroyed.

They can't even prevent tanks from leaking, they can't even stop contaminated water from entering the passific.

So how are they gonna remove 1300 fuel rods without being able to enter the area, removing them one by one, without letting them drop. All this with the danger of thypoons, earthquakes, leaking tanks and 3 cores in china syndrome mode. I don't think they can do it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1527598


I used similar reasoning as yours to come up with the idea that moving the fuel rods is a complete fraud imho.

IMHO, TEPCO will pretend to move the fuel rods and bask in the glory of fake greatness while they report success after success....

But it will all be fake. Nothing will be moved.

The other shoe will drop when building four collapses sometime in the next 10 years and the reaction will be...

CRAP, they lied to us again, DAMN!

People are really stupid, trusting TEPCO is just like trusting Bush or Obama...
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The Japanese have shamed themselves and their ancestors for refusing to deal with this situation and endangering their beautiful island and the world. They should do the honorable thing and admit fault and clean that mess up.
 Quoting: J0nx


I think we should set explosives around the fault beneath japan an sink the damn thing with the liars and people who caused this mess still on the island!
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The Japanese have shamed themselves and their ancestors for refusing to deal with this situation and endangering their beautiful island and the world. They should do the honorable thing and admit fault and clean that mess up.
 Quoting: J0nx


I think we should set explosives around the fault beneath japan an sink the damn thing with the liars and people who caused this mess still on the island!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41435201


As long as the Radiation hit the US and Beaverland only as long
we, in the "free World" celebrating this Accident as God given, Hallelujah!
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I have a serious question...well, serious to me and maybe to others, too.
Why is it, on the Nuclear Emergency Tracker:
[link to www.netc.com]
Why is it that Fukushima and areas surrounding, always show that radioactivity is within normal limits??? It doesn't make sense. We see all of this stuff in the news about how it is leaking hundreds of tons upon tons of this stuff into the nearby ocean, as well as the stuff is stored in the ground all around but yet their radioactivity is WITHIN NORMAL LIMITS!!! How can that be?

Could someone please explain that to me, pretty please?
 Quoting: BoBerry 27279655


Because the Radiation from the Water leak, for example, is linked/ ligated
in to the Water but not in to the Atmosphere!

Also this 300 Tones a 24 Hour leak leaks directly in to the Kuroshio Sea Current
which is immense with 50.000.000 (50 Mio) Tones a Second
directly in front of the Plant,
ergo: the Radiated Water get diluted very quick!

Netc is looking in a different Energy Range than any other Stations
and their Equipment is rather simple compared to real Stations,
also they look for Counts per Minute while the Japanese ones look
for Nano-Grays or/ and Nano-Sievert/ or Micro-Sievert!

And, as i said, you People may have a very bad imagination about
F'Shima or they found a way to trick every single Geiger-Counter here in Nippon!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45521023


False logic.
Radiation does not get diluted, only spread out and concentrated over time. All that current is doing is contaminating a larger portion of the ocean.
Your government has been lying to the Japanese people from day one. People won't wake up until their hair and teeth start falling out.
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I/ we estimate/d that we will see at least 250-500 similar Incidents until
the Plant come even close to the dismantling of the Cores!

It is stupid what you are doing, don't celebrate every News from the Plant
as the end of your World.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45521023


ASSUMING THEIR IS NOT ANOTHER EARTHQUAKE PERHAPS.
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I have a serious question...well, serious to me and maybe to others, too.
Why is it, on the Nuclear Emergency Tracker:
[link to www.netc.com]
Why is it that Fukushima and areas surrounding, always show that radioactivity is within normal limits??? It doesn't make sense. We see all of this stuff in the news about how it is leaking hundreds of tons upon tons of this stuff into the nearby ocean, as well as the stuff is stored in the ground all around but yet their radioactivity is WITHIN NORMAL LIMITS!!! How can that be?

Could someone please explain that to me, pretty please?
 Quoting: BoBerry 27279655


Because the Radiation from the Water leak, for example, is linked/ ligated
in to the Water but not in to the Atmosphere!

Also this 300 Tones a 24 Hour leak leaks directly in to the Kuroshio Sea Current
which is immense with 50.000.000 (50 Mio) Tones a Second
directly in front of the Plant,
ergo: the Radiated Water get diluted very quick!

Netc is looking in a different Energy Range than any other Stations
and their Equipment is rather simple compared to real Stations,
also they look for Counts per Minute while the Japanese ones look
for Nano-Grays or/ and Nano-Sievert/ or Micro-Sievert!

And, as i said, you People may have a very bad imagination about
F'Shima or they found a way to trick every single Geiger-Counter here in Nippon!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45521023


False logic.
Radiation does not get diluted, only spread out and concentrated over time. All that current is doing is contaminating a larger portion of the ocean.
Your government has been lying to the Japanese people from day one. People won't wake up until their hair and teeth start falling out.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 40833900


I don't think it will work like that exactly. When the obvious effects hit North America and Japan, won't the rest of the world (Europe, Africa, S. America, etc.) wake up then?
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The Japanese have shamed themselves and their ancestors for refusing to deal with this situation and endangering their beautiful island and the world. They should do the honorable thing and admit fault and clean that mess up.
 Quoting: J0nx


I think we should set explosives around the fault beneath japan an sink the damn thing with the liars and people who caused this mess still on the island!

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41435201


Edgar Cayce prophecy.........

"The greater portion of Japan must go into the sea"



Now you know why he used the word MUST in that prediction.


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I have a serious question...well, serious to me and maybe to others, too.
Why is it, on the Nuclear Emergency Tracker:
[link to www.netc.com]
Why is it that Fukushima and areas surrounding, always show that radioactivity is within normal limits??? It doesn't make sense. We see all of this stuff in the news about how it is leaking hundreds of tons upon tons of this stuff into the nearby ocean, as well as the stuff is stored in the ground all around but yet their radioactivity is WITHIN NORMAL LIMITS!!! How can that be?

Could someone please explain that to me, pretty please?
 Quoting: BoBerry 27279655


Because the Radiation from the Water leak, for example, is linked/ ligated
in to the Water but not in to the Atmosphere!

Also this 300 Tones a 24 Hour leak leaks directly in to the Kuroshio Sea Current
which is immense with 50.000.000 (50 Mio) Tones a Second
directly in front of the Plant,
ergo: the Radiated Water get diluted very quick!

Netc is looking in a different Energy Range than any other Stations
and their Equipment is rather simple compared to real Stations,
also they look for Counts per Minute while the Japanese ones look
for Nano-Grays or/ and Nano-Sievert/ or Micro-Sievert!

And, as i said, you People may have a very bad imagination about
F'Shima or they found a way to trick every single Geiger-Counter here in Nippon!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45521023


iamwith

Wow, that is some kind of turd polishing right there.

"Look, I am consuming my own shit! I feed myself! It is very safe!"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4466048


It is not us who consume this polished Shite but you,
we just go south of Fukushima and get fresh and "unshitted Fish"
while we flush all the contaminated Water in front of your Beachhouse!

You see?
There is no need to discuss this problem in your way!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45521023


Hey you actually said something that's true! Contaminated water WILL be coming to our shores. You seem proud of it. Tell me how what you are doing is not an act of warfare.

skull_fing
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I have a serious question...well, serious to me and maybe to others, too.
Why is it, on the Nuclear Emergency Tracker:
[link to www.netc.com]
Why is it that Fukushima and areas surrounding, always show that radioactivity is within normal limits??? It doesn't make sense. We see all of this stuff in the news about how it is leaking hundreds of tons upon tons of this stuff into the nearby ocean, as well as the stuff is stored in the ground all around but yet their radioactivity is WITHIN NORMAL LIMITS!!! How can that be?

Could someone please explain that to me, pretty please?
 Quoting: BoBerry 27279655


Because the Radiation from the Water leak, for example, is linked/ ligated
in to the Water but not in to the Atmosphere!

Also this 300 Tones a 24 Hour leak leaks directly in to the Kuroshio Sea Current
which is immense with 50.000.000 (50 Mio) Tones a Second
directly in front of the Plant,
ergo: the Radiated Water get diluted very quick!

Netc is looking in a different Energy Range than any other Stations
and their Equipment is rather simple compared to real Stations,
also they look for Counts per Minute while the Japanese ones look
for Nano-Grays or/ and Nano-Sievert/ or Micro-Sievert!

And, as i said, you People may have a very bad imagination about
F'Shima or they found a way to trick every single Geiger-Counter here in Nippon!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45521023


False logic.
Radiation does not get diluted, only spread out and concentrated over time. All that current is doing is contaminating a larger portion of the ocean.
Your government has been lying to the Japanese people from day one. People won't wake up until their hair and teeth start falling out.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 40833900


Yes, it not get diluted but the Concentration decrease, i just had no other Word, i/ we have the Theory that a lot get concentrated in the huge Eddies
in front of Hokkaido, Far East Russia and Canada but the Woods Hole Institute do not agree with our Theory because they think that the Cesium
stay in between 0 and 300 meter only.

We don't know it yet but we will know it later!

How do you know that we hear only lies?
Do you really think that we all have no access to a Computer,
to a Meteorological Agency or Hospitals?

How do you know that your own Theory is the only valid one?
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Re: Fukushima leak is 'much worse than we were led to believe' !! UPDATED) Study shows Fukushima nuclear pollution becoming more concentrated
When you look at the sheer volume of the Pacific Ocean and the distance and square mileage of space surrou do g Fukushima which is just a minuscule pin prick on the world map, I don't believe it can REALLY be that bad.

Don't get me wrong, I know it's horrible and bad but can it really be THAT bad? I mean there's a farmer living right up the road from the Fukushima plant who is still perfectly healthy. If the radiation is as bad as some of you say that guy should be long dead by now. Don't give me the excuse of long term accumulation either. If its really that bad then that farmer would be dead by now. Dead.

Humans absorbed Chernobyl with little difficulty. Sure a few thousand died or whatever. But it didn't kill the planet. I know Fukushima is much worse. But still, is something the size of a swimming pool going to kill everything on the planet?

I highly doubt it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23855032


We have no idea what this stuff can do in such mass but I can assure you, you are wrong and will soon see how wrong
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Only if the media doesn't cover it up. Which they will.
And if they can't cover it up they will blame it on some other source - stress, depression, whatever. If they have to make up a new disease they will. They will do whatever it takes to continue the cover-up.

This was 2.5 years ago, he hasn't spoken about Fukushima radiation dangers since:

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Because the Radiation from the Water leak, for example, is linked/ ligated
in to the Water but not in to the Atmosphere!

Also this 300 Tones a 24 Hour leak leaks directly in to the Kuroshio Sea Current
which is immense with 50.000.000 (50 Mio) Tones a Second
directly in front of the Plant,
ergo: the Radiated Water get diluted very quick!

Netc is looking in a different Energy Range than any other Stations
and their Equipment is rather simple compared to real Stations,
also they look for Counts per Minute while the Japanese ones look
for Nano-Grays or/ and Nano-Sievert/ or Micro-Sievert!

And, as i said, you People may have a very bad imagination about
F'Shima or they found a way to trick every single Geiger-Counter here in Nippon!
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iamwith

Wow, that is some kind of turd polishing right there.

"Look, I am consuming my own shit! I feed myself! It is very safe!"
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It is not us who consume this polished Shite but you,
we just go south of Fukushima and get fresh and "unshitted Fish"
while we flush all the contaminated Water in front of your Beachhouse!

You see?
There is no need to discuss this problem in your way!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45521023


Hey you actually said something that's true! Contaminated water WILL be coming to our shores. You seem proud of it. Tell me how what you are doing is not an act of warfare.

skull_fing
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I just showed you that your Chain of Arguments is stupid,
we are not proud of it and you have zero Reason to bomb this Island
which is, by the Way, one of the most childish Idea since a long Time!
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Re: Fukushima leak is 'much worse than we were led to believe' !! UPDATED) Study shows Fukushima nuclear pollution becoming more concentrated
I have a serious question...well, serious to me and maybe to others, too.
Why is it, on the Nuclear Emergency Tracker:
[link to www.netc.com]
Why is it that Fukushima and areas surrounding, always show that radioactivity is within normal limits??? It doesn't make sense. We see all of this stuff in the news about how it is leaking hundreds of tons upon tons of this stuff into the nearby ocean, as well as the stuff is stored in the ground all around but yet their radioactivity is WITHIN NORMAL LIMITS!!! How can that be?

Could someone please explain that to me, pretty please?
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Because the Radiation from the Water leak, for example, is linked/ ligated
in to the Water but not in to the Atmosphere!

Also this 300 Tones a 24 Hour leak leaks directly in to the Kuroshio Sea Current
which is immense with 50.000.000 (50 Mio) Tones a Second
directly in front of the Plant,
ergo: the Radiated Water get diluted very quick!

Netc is looking in a different Energy Range than any other Stations
and their Equipment is rather simple compared to real Stations,
also they look for Counts per Minute while the Japanese ones look
for Nano-Grays or/ and Nano-Sievert/ or Micro-Sievert!

And, as i said, you People may have a very bad imagination about
F'Shima or they found a way to trick every single Geiger-Counter here in Nippon!
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False logic.
Radiation does not get diluted, only spread out and concentrated over time. All that current is doing is contaminating a larger portion of the ocean.
Your government has been lying to the Japanese people from day one. People won't wake up until their hair and teeth start falling out.
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Notice how his argument requires even his own admission of the sheer volume of water. He then boasts about how a major current will then spread it out over a very large area (on a continuous basis) as if that is a good thing. He has to - after all, what is he defending? The truth? Accuracy? Honor of the people he claims to not be associated with?

He is committing crimes against humanity.
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Re: Fukushima leak is 'much worse than we were led to believe' !! UPDATED) Study shows Fukushima nuclear pollution becoming more concentrated
Only if the media doesn't cover it up. Which they will.
And if they can't cover it up they will blame it on some other source - stress, depression, whatever. If they have to make up a new disease they will. They will do whatever it takes to continue the cover-up.

This was 2.5 years ago, he hasn't spoken about Fukushima radiation dangers since:


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People aren't THAT stupid are they? They can put 2 + 2 together. Fukushima + obvious radiation sickness = Fukushima is the problem

Any normal five year old child would see that easily.
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OOOOOOOOOHHHHHH MMYYYYYYYY GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!​!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!​!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Fukushima leak is 'much worse than we were led to believe' !! UPDATED) Study shows Fukushima nuclear pollution becoming more concentrated
I have a serious question...well, serious to me and maybe to others, too.
Why is it, on the Nuclear Emergency Tracker:
[link to www.netc.com]
Why is it that Fukushima and areas surrounding, always show that radioactivity is within normal limits??? It doesn't make sense. We see all of this stuff in the news about how it is leaking hundreds of tons upon tons of this stuff into the nearby ocean, as well as the stuff is stored in the ground all around but yet their radioactivity is WITHIN NORMAL LIMITS!!! How can that be?

Could someone please explain that to me, pretty please?
 Quoting: BoBerry 27279655


Because the Radiation from the Water leak, for example, is linked/ ligated
in to the Water but not in to the Atmosphere!

Also this 300 Tones a 24 Hour leak leaks directly in to the Kuroshio Sea Current
which is immense with 50.000.000 (50 Mio) Tones a Second
directly in front of the Plant,
ergo: the Radiated Water get diluted very quick!

Netc is looking in a different Energy Range than any other Stations
and their Equipment is rather simple compared to real Stations,
also they look for Counts per Minute while the Japanese ones look
for Nano-Grays or/ and Nano-Sievert/ or Micro-Sievert!

And, as i said, you People may have a very bad imagination about
F'Shima or they found a way to trick every single Geiger-Counter here in Nippon!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45521023


False logic.
Radiation does not get diluted, only spread out and concentrated over time. All that current is doing is contaminating a larger portion of the ocean.
Your government has been lying to the Japanese people from day one. People won't wake up until their hair and teeth start falling out.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 40833900


Notice how his argument requires even his own admission of the sheer volume of water. He then boasts about how a major current will then spread it out over a very large area (on a continuous basis) as if that is a good thing. He has to - after all, what is he defending? The truth? Accuracy? Honor of the people he claims to not be associated with?

He is committing crimes against humanity.

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Rofl

You need a quick Realitycheck!

Chuckle
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Re: Fukushima leak is 'much worse than we were led to believe' !! UPDATED) Study shows Fukushima nuclear pollution becoming more concentrated
TEPCO have lost all honor.
The situation is beyond their control.
Public Harakiri?
lol.

Is this situation containable with a large enough work force and zealous management?
What do you guys think?
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Re: Fukushima leak is 'much worse than we were led to believe' !! UPDATED) Study shows Fukushima nuclear pollution becoming more concentrated
TEPCO have lost all honor.
The situation is beyond their control.
Public Harakiri?
lol.

Is this situation containable with a large enough work force and zealous management?
What do you guys think?
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China Syndrome is as out of control as you can get, then you ask, "Is this situation containable"....
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Re: Fukushima leak is 'much worse than we were led to believe' !! UPDATED) Study shows Fukushima nuclear pollution becoming more concentrated
TEPCO have lost all honor.
The situation is beyond their control.
Public Harakiri?
lol.

Is this situation containable with a large enough work force and zealous management?
What do you guys think?
 Quoting: RandomBifurcation 41170787


China Syndrome is as out of control as you can get, then you ask, "Is this situation containable"....
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I'm only trying to get a grip on whether or not there is a possible solution to the crisis, given the best quality and quantity of man-power :D

If that's what China syndrome is, does that mean, "No"?




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