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Was I about to have an OBE, or just dreaming

 
Vindog
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Was I about to have an OBE, or just dreaming
So for the last year or so I have been studying Out of body experiences and have been trying to induce one. For the most part I have been unsuccessful, but I think I came really close one night. So one night, I was in bed next to my wife, and was trying to have an OBE. Im pretty sure I fell asleep for a little while and then I know that I was awake. When I was awake again, At this point i wasn't really trying anymore, but was 110% aware of my surroundings. My eyes were open, I was awake. Next thing I know, all at once I could hear the buzzing/whindy noise in my ears, could hear people talking, which it seemed like they were talking about me but i couldnt make it out, and I was seeing or heading towards a blueish whitish light. Everything started getting more intense, the wind was stronger, I could almost make out what was being said and i think i could hear my name, and I was almost at the light. For some reason at this point, I got scared and changed my mind. It was like I was right there, if I went any further I believe I would have been Out of body. But i didnt. I opened my eyes and was back in my room. Now i was in sleep paralysis with my eyes open, which was also nerve racking, cause i was so scared all i wanted to do was to reach over and grab my wife but I couldnt move, or even call out to her. A few minutes later I was sleeping again and woke up in the morning.
So that was one experience. Another experience I had, is a little harder to explain. I didnt go through all the motions of wind/vibration or lights and voices, but again i had tried to have OBE. lying in bed probably falling asleep. Next thing I know im looking up at a shadowy figure of a person leaning over me in my dark room. He/she kept getting closer. Now this really scared the crap out of me and Woke me right up. So im not too sure what these experiences were....any thoughts?
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Re: Was I about to have an OBE, or just dreaming
when you wake up without moving or only moving a tiny little bit you will start to enter a lucid dream so you will hear voices, see dream characters like god jesus homer simpson etc. and with sleep paralysis, sleep paralysis is what you want to get to get an OBE. just relax and lift your body up without actually moving, like imagine it but still feel yourself move without moving.. kinda hard to explain

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Vindog (OP)
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08/23/2013 11:34 PM
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Well When the story began, before I heard the buzzing/voices and the light, i wasn't in sleep paralysis, at least i don't remember it that way. I remember being fully awake and aware, re positioned myself to be more comfortable, next thing i knew is the story i laid out.....
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Re: Was I about to have an OBE, or just dreaming
You may have already been out of body.
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Well When the story began, before I heard the buzzing/voices and the light, i wasn't in sleep paralysis, at least i don't remember it that way. I remember being fully awake and aware, re positioned myself to be more comfortable, next thing i knew is the story i laid out.....
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the waking up and not moving doesn't make a dif if you are in sleep paralysis, it will happen every time you wake up if you don't move intentionally
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Why are you so afraid of everything that happens? Seems to me you're not quite ready to see where this will take you. Relax and see what happens.
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for me it all started out with sleep paralysis, and it was always a negative/demonic experience. then they began pulling me towards them, out of my body, and it took every ounce of strength i had to come out of it.

then it changed. one morning i was paralyzed but there was nothing in the room with me and i sort of leaned out of my body accidentally.

that was terrifying, seeing myself lying there and trying to get back in.

now i travel regularly. there are no words for the experiences.. about a week ago i was flying over downtown L.A. (where i live) and went down and was on the street corner just watching everyone walk by. then i noticed a man on the other corner looking at me.. i couldn't believe it and went over to him and he said "why can see each other, are you travelling too?" craziness... we had fun and his "connection" faded before mine

sometimes im flying over places I've never been, or over my neighborhood..

a few times i was in other dimensions with other travelers as well

god i sound insane.. but if you knew me you would never think of me as crazy; im considered 'socially normal'

anyway op, its all about the paralysis/vibration.

and Jesus is God, i think having that sort of protects you from being possessed by evil bitches while your body is vacant
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and Jesus is God, i think having that sort of protects you from being possessed by evil bitches while your body is vacant

 Quoting: Elisabetta


Your body isn't vacant.... Your consciousness splits/segments... Robert Bruce labels it the 'mind split effect'. He writes about it in detail in his book Astral Dynamics.... This is why at times individuals (who are out of body) will continue to receive/experience sensory input from the location of their body, despite their 'awareness' being located elsewhere. Your body can never be vacant or empty - unless you're 'dead'.

Also, an element of your consciousness splits/separates from your physical body when you enter the dream state each night.

How do you induce your experiences? Do you sleep on your back?

huh

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Re: Was I about to have an OBE, or just dreaming
Im not sure why I was scared with the first experience. It all happened so rapidly i guess i WASNT ready for it. The second time( i wasnt even trying),and well seeing a shadowy figure leeaning over me just startled me i guess.

Yes I am laying on my back when I try to do it. The biggest problems i have is shutting my mind down. I have always had trouble falling asleep cause of this same problem. A lot of times i will be able to lay motionless for 5-10 minutes, but then have to scratch at something that is itching me or some stupid thing like that. I just cant seem to let go of my Mind/body experience and just meditate i guess.
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From what you described, sounds like lucid OP.
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Consider trying binaural beats like Hemi-Sync. Be careful if you are epileptic or prone to seizures.
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Consider trying binaural beats like Hemi-Sync. Be careful if you are epileptic or prone to seizures.
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I personally use isochronic tones since you don't need headphones.
"A truth's initial commotion is directly proportional to how deeply the lie was believed. When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker, a raving lunatic."
-Dresden James

"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
-Arthur Schopenhauer
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I have tried binaurial beats. I just fall asleep. Any tips for how to remain still long enough, staying in the present, and NOT falling asleep. Today I was listening to this, [link to www.youtube.com] But couldnt get out of my own mind and thinking about things.
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Re: Was I about to have an OBE, or just dreaming
for me it all started out with sleep paralysis, and it was always a negative/demonic experience. then they began pulling me towards them, out of my body, and it took every ounce of strength i had to come out of it.

then it changed. one morning i was paralyzed but there was nothing in the room with me and i sort of leaned out of my body accidentally.

that was terrifying, seeing myself lying there and trying to get back in.

now i travel regularly. there are no words for the experiences.. about a week ago i was flying over downtown L.A. (where i live) and went down and was on the street corner just watching everyone walk by. then i noticed a man on the other corner looking at me.. i couldn't believe it and went over to him and he said "why can see each other, are you travelling too?" craziness... we had fun and his "connection" faded before mine

sometimes im flying over places I've never been, or over my neighborhood..

a few times i was in other dimensions with other travelers as well

god i sound insane.. but if you knew me you would never think of me as crazy; im considered 'socially normal'

anyway op, its all about the paralysis/vibration.

and Jesus is God, i think having that sort of protects you from being possessed by evil bitches while your body is vacant
 Quoting: Elisabetta


this stuff has nothing to do with god/jesus/christianity. the reason why calling for jesus to help you works is because you are in a state similar to lucid dreaming, you are in control of you. if you call for superman to come and help you it will do the same thing as calling for god. it is all about belief and intent while lucid dreaming and OBEing. the reason why it was negative and "demonic" is because you expected it to be, or you were just scared. once you are no longer really afraid, nothing scary will appear. the figures you see while in sleep paralysis is just your brain playing out a dream in your vision.

Last Edited by Nachos on 08/24/2013 01:44 AM
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Re: Was I about to have an OBE, or just dreaming
I have tried binaurial beats. I just fall asleep. Any tips for how to remain still long enough, staying in the present, and NOT falling asleep. Today I was listening to this, [link to www.youtube.com] But couldnt get out of my own mind and thinking about things.
 Quoting: Vindog 41550904


Makes my head vibrate...

This one is kind of noisy, but effective.


Preferred.


Focus on the breath entering and exiting your nostrils and stare into the void (eyes closed).

As you go into the deeper states, you will catch yourself drifting off to sleep. Just realize you are dreaming without waking yourself up too much.

Eventually if you go deep enough, you'll feel the intense vibrations and after that you can attempt to leave. Don't attempt to physically move.

Last Edited by Xerces on 08/24/2013 01:51 AM
"A truth's initial commotion is directly proportional to how deeply the lie was believed. When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker, a raving lunatic."
-Dresden James

"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
-Arthur Schopenhauer
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Re: Was I about to have an OBE, or just dreaming
Focus on the breath entering and exiting your nostrils and stare into the void (eyes closed).



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here in lies another problem i feel i have. It feels like so much of a stuggle for me to keep my eyes closed. Most everything i read suggests that you should try to ignore your physical body. Focus on nothing. all while keeping your eyes closed. Well i have to acctually concentrate and use my eye lid muscles to keep my eyes closed, so that is what my attention is focused on... also thank you for the videos. will try them.
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Re: Was I about to have an OBE, or just dreaming
Focus on the breath entering and exiting your nostrils and stare into the void (eyes closed).



 Quoting: Xerces


here in lies another problem i feel i have. It feels like so much of a stuggle for me to keep my eyes closed. Most everything i read suggests that you should try to ignore your physical body. Focus on nothing. all while keeping your eyes closed. Well i have to acctually concentrate and use my eye lid muscles to keep my eyes closed, so that is what my attention is focused on... also thank you for the videos. will try them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41550904


Buy a sleep mask.
"A truth's initial commotion is directly proportional to how deeply the lie was believed. When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker, a raving lunatic."
-Dresden James

"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
-Arthur Schopenhauer

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