Banned TED Talk! - The Nephilim Giants of Ancient America and Mysterious Mounds/Banned Video | |
MagTog User ID: 39292843 United States 08/24/2013 07:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thanks for the link. It seems TED has a double-standards problem. Much of their objection was based on conjecture and the knee-jerk scoffing from "officials" at the Smithsonian and other flawed, non-omniscient humans that some assume are experts and thus final arbiters of truth. The portions they claimed were unscientific were pretty benign as well (though not benign for the Smithsonian and tptb) and did nothing to counter the speakers claims. |
Turtles Voice User ID: 15791612 United States 08/24/2013 07:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bumping for later "In order to arrive at what you are not, You must go through the way in which you are not." -TS Eliot [link to www.turtlesvoice.com] Momma Said Write A Book About It - New novel [link to www.amazon.com (secure)] [link to www.facebook.com (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 43265756 Canada 08/24/2013 07:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thanks for the link. It seems TED has a double-standards problem. Much of their objection was based on conjecture and the knee-jerk scoffing from "officials" at the Smithsonian and other flawed, non-omniscient humans that some assume are experts and thus final arbiters of truth. The portions they claimed were unscientific were pretty benign as well (though not benign for the Smithsonian and tptb) and did nothing to counter the speakers claims. I think he ruined his prospects by accusing the Smithsonian and other scientific institutions. He could have presented the case without including that conjecture. |
Giant Gumby User ID: 45693257 United States 08/24/2013 07:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thanks for the link. It seems TED has a double-standards problem. Much of their objection was based on conjecture and the knee-jerk scoffing from "officials" at the Smithsonian and other flawed, non-omniscient humans that some assume are experts and thus final arbiters of truth. The portions they claimed were unscientific were pretty benign as well (though not benign for the Smithsonian and tptb) and did nothing to counter the speakers claims. I think he ruined his prospects by accusing the Smithsonian and other scientific institutions. He could have presented the case without including that conjecture. Kind of hard not to include accusations and conjecture about the Smithsonian, when he is quoting newspaper articles and Smithsonian documents which report on the very subject he is presenting. |
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Maximus Shillingus User ID: 31901825 United States 08/24/2013 07:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | TED is for atheists only. Bunch of sterile, no soul. Pseudo-science wackos. Quoting: Maximus Shillingus oh my u are wrong on so many levels and very scared. No I'm not. I have a friend who was invited to speak there, but was banned for talking about esoteric spirituality and God. |
Maximus Shillingus User ID: 31901825 United States 08/24/2013 07:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.slate.com] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45647665 Wasn't banned it didn't measure up to TED standards. Thank God TED as a whole smartened up because there have been all sorts of woo woo TEDx videos and it gives people the impression that science actually agrees in some way with woo but they let bill clinton and al gore talk; really enlightened individuals there who only deal with facts Yeah, they invite Deepak Chopra, Al Gore, and Bill Clinton to talk about climate change, and metaphysical issues. But delete the video of the guy who gives dozens of citations to 7, 8 and 9 foot skeletons found in burial mounds, some of them direct quotes from Smithsonian field notes. What's up with that? And even if there were pranksters and hoaxsters in the 19th century, there are pranksters and hoaxers today like those who go invade other countries because of claims of chemical weapons of mass destruction, and fund Al Qaeda with AK-47'S in Egypt, Libyam and Syria, yet in the meanwhile wire tapping survey all American citizens! What the hell has Jim uncovered that TED found so disturbing they had to remove it? That's my question. Global warming is the biggest hoax of them all, |
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EMPerror User ID: 8804293 Lithuania 08/24/2013 08:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | History is extremely close to pseudoscience. Most of it is written from ancient books where also are often mentioned flying dragons and flying witches. Everything is based on interpretation of ancient texts and archeology where real facts and hard evidence is. Once politics goes into history, and it definitely does that, it becomes more of a "science". When religion comes into it, it becomes "hard science" where facts cannot contradict it by design, thus archeology becomes not needed at all. The reality is, that history is political, religious and ideological with scientific part often omitted on purpose. Last Edited by EMPerror on 08/24/2013 08:57 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 36069302 Australia 08/24/2013 09:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thanks for the link. It seems TED has a double-standards problem. Much of their objection was based on conjecture and the knee-jerk scoffing from "officials" at the Smithsonian and other flawed, non-omniscient humans that some assume are experts and thus final arbiters of truth. The portions they claimed were unscientific were pretty benign as well (though not benign for the Smithsonian and tptb) and did nothing to counter the speakers claims. I think he ruined his prospects by accusing the Smithsonian and other scientific institutions. He could have presented the case without including that conjecture. :o How dare he question the smithsonian, or the government or anyone else. They could never ever be corrupt/paid, shame on him. |
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Bones User ID: 43852600 United States 08/24/2013 11:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In the 1970's my friend was living in Florida, where he visited this guy named "Anderson" who had a "roadside museum". The museum was a shack with plywood shelves, upon which he had laid out the skeletons of "Indians" he had discovered while doing excavations on his property. This was approximately 1972 in Brevard County, Florida. The area was Malabar Rd and Lake Washington Rd. It was a marshy land that contained "Indian mounds". There was some kind of canal that the county had been digging, and that had helped to dry up the land. Years later, when my friend revisted the area, he found that the county had turned it into a park. The skeletons were at least seven feet tall, and my friend said the skulls were "huge". Not like basketball players' - very largely built. There was an article published in the local newspaper "Today" about the bones. Here is that newspaper website: [link to www.floridatoday.com] (There is an online archive, but it only covers the recent years.) I was able to find this web page from 2007 that mentions Anderson, Malabar Rd, and some interesting supporting details, but not the actual giant bones. Please see: www.palmbayflorida.org/citycouncil/about/documents/article_1.pdf |
Giant Gumby User ID: 45708349 United States 08/24/2013 11:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well exactly, I mean it's not like he is promoting some risky unproven medical drug or advocating the non use of vaccinations. Hell, he's not even telling you to believe in what he is presenting, he says some of it is a freak show, and neither is he claiming to have personally found a giant skeleton himself, but he is reporting what other people, museum inventories, town historians, judges, and Smithsonian field agents wrote down over a 200 year span. Personally, I think its worth looking into. Even if it were special burials of elite warriors which numbered in the hundreds per tribe, or like an ancient NBA of professional warriors, and not a race of millions of giants -- that in itself I find interesting enough! Just as interesting if not more, than watching a bunch of overgrown roided out men tackle eachother or dunk hoops today, the idea of ancient giants in the past really duking it out with copper axes and shit is pretty kick ass and hardcore. Study anomalous, don't cover up the past, and keep an open mind. That's what this dude is saying. Also notice, he never mentioned aliens or that these were Nephilim -- he did say though that the Rosicrucians, Free Masons, and Theosophists in the 19th -20th century had a special interest in giant skeletal finds because those societies shared a common traditions of giants and lost civilization mysticism in their writings, like Atalntis etc. Maybe if we connect the dots with an open mind, it could have been all the above, some cases of giantism thrown in, and six fingers, double row of teeth etc. are known pathological conditions and may have been seen as a sign of the divine in ancient times. The Anasazi of the S.W. and many ancient rock art pictographs show six fingers and six toed drawings and giants. Several studies, as recent as last year have been done on tribes in the S.W. which showed a very high incidence of polydactyly. Think of the science papers and research work one could do if Jim can track down some of these remains to museums and warehouses, if the doors are not shut in his face. It's about science and learning. So what if they are genetic aberrations or not, the Smithsonian has done nothing but shut the door in his face, and they likely pressured TED to remove his video because of the disturbing allegations he made. Who is the real crook in all of this? Who has the most to lose? Not Jim. The Smithsonian!!! They are exempt from NAGPRA, the Native Graves Repatriation act which prohibits the study and display of all human remains older than 600 years, meaning in concise terms, Smithsonian has an AWESOME number of skeletons in their vaults. One conservative estimate in the late 1980's was 35,000 Indian skeletons, but the real number could be triple or double that if not more. |
El Quisqueyano User ID: 20090941 United States 08/24/2013 11:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I live about 10 miles from Newark, Ohio where the Earthworks Mounds are. I had no idea it even existed. I am going to make a trip to it, it's a museum of sort now. Quoting: El Quisqueyano A very cool place, If you get a chance visit Circleville sometime, ( there is a reason they called it Circleville) they were connected at one time by a great road. I read the road connects from newark down to chillicote. This is fascinating. |
Giant Gumby User ID: 45709704 United States 08/24/2013 11:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In the 1970's my friend was living in Florida, where he visited this guy named "Anderson" who had a "roadside museum". The museum was a shack with plywood shelves, upon which he had laid out the skeletons of "Indians" he had discovered while doing excavations on his property. Quoting: Bones 43852600 This was approximately 1972 in Brevard County, Florida. The area was Malabar Rd and Lake Washington Rd. It was a marshy land that contained "Indian mounds". There was some kind of canal that the county had been digging, and that had helped to dry up the land. Years later, when my friend revisted the area, he found that the county had turned it into a park. The skeletons were at least seven feet tall, and my friend said the skulls were "huge". Not like basketball players' - very largely built. There was an article published in the local newspaper "Today" about the bones. Here is that newspaper website: [link to www.floridatoday.com] (There is an online archive, but it only covers the recent years.) I was able to find this web page from 2007 that mentions Anderson, Malabar Rd, and some interesting supporting details, but not the actual giant bones. Please see: www.palmbayflorida.org/citycouncil/about/documents/article_1.pdf I find that totally believable. Even the Smithsonian, in the 1920's were sending field agents down to Florida on expeditions to "prove the giant race theory." In one published incident in the "Evening Independent" Feb 14, 1925, they brought back the bones of an over 7 feet giant, with a skull 1/4 larger than average man, and a 63 centimeter thigh bone. (about 25 inches long femur): [link to news.google.com] The average thigh bone of a man is 18 to 19 inches, it would take a man 7 1/2 to 8 feet tall if proportionate, to require a 25 inch thigh bone. Also, you don't randomly dig around in modern American graves today and pull out 7 and 8 ft people. The incidence of giantism is 1 in a million, and being 7 feet tall is like one in 100,000 or more. It's a really rare height. All the more extraordinary then that the Smithsonian can pull out random skeletons of giant warriors, that size and larger on routine basis. Even the Spaniards record giqantic chieftains among the Indians from Florida to Alabama, like the giant king Tuskaloosa and his son recorded by De Soto in 1540, as having been half a yard taller than all his men, or roughly 7 1/2 to 8 ft tall. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 45578659 United States 08/25/2013 03:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Fuck Keep going OP you have hit a soar point with the shills on this one. They are out in force trying to ridicule the evidence which is so fucking monumental that even a blind man could see there is something there. There is other evidence in south america sugesting some strange goings on over you side of the globe. But I guess Pumma punku and alike are all just make believe too are they? Quoting: Ozi 45665005 :clappa; |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 45578659 United States 08/25/2013 03:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Fuck Keep going OP you have hit a soar point with the shills on this one. They are out in force trying to ridicule the evidence which is so fucking monumental that even a blind man could see there is something there. There is other evidence in south america sugesting some strange goings on over you side of the globe. But I guess Pumma punku and alike are all just make believe too are they? Quoting: Ozi 45665005 |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 40487804 United States 08/25/2013 05:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | TED is for atheists only. Bunch of sterile, no soul. Pseudo-science wackos. Quoting: Maximus Shillingus Oh, I didn't realize he was atheist. Seems retarded when you can see how perfectly the existence of these beings is explained in the historic account of the bible. You'd think it would open the eyes. To examine it without including God in the equation is a waste of time and effort. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 45578659 United States 08/25/2013 05:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | TED is for atheists only. Bunch of sterile, no soul. Pseudo-science wackos. Quoting: Maximus Shillingus Oh, I didn't realize he was atheist. Seems retarded when you can see how perfectly the existence of these beings is explained in the historic account of the bible. You'd think it would open the eyes. To examine it without including God in the equation is a waste of time and effort. Or to get to the point, Who are the Sons of God? They were known as the Elohim and even further back the Anunnaki There own name of the race is called the SAM |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 4991783 United States 08/25/2013 03:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.slate.com] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45647665 Wasn't banned it didn't measure up to TED standards. Thank God TED as a whole smartened up because there have been all sorts of woo woo TEDx videos and it gives people the impression that science actually agrees in some way with woo How unscientific is it? I live near a lot of that stuff. You can go see it. If it's surprising, does that make it unscientific? Check up the claims that the guy makes in the video There are no giant artifacts involved and in the 1800s it was very popular to hoax evidence of giants as pranks. Do a little research on it as it was very popular and was the crop circles of that time Link to substantiate that? I've never heard that in the 1800s it was very popular to hoax evidence of giants as pranks. |
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waterlily User ID: 43877463 United States 08/27/2013 04:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.slate.com] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45647665 Wasn't banned it didn't measure up to TED standards. Thank God TED as a whole smartened up because there have been all sorts of woo woo TEDx videos and it gives people the impression that science actually agrees in some way with woo How unscientific is it? I live near a lot of that stuff. You can go see it. If it's surprising, does that make it unscientific? Check up the claims that the guy makes in the video There are no giant artifacts involved and in the 1800s it was very popular to hoax evidence of giants as pranks. Do a little research on it as it was very popular and was the crop circles of that time Link to substantiate that? I've never heard that in the 1800s it was very popular to hoax evidence of giants as pranks. Yes, I think there were hoaxes then, but there was nothing so sophisticated as the green screen and computer generated graphics we see in the news now though. *********** WaterLily *********** " Do I dare Disturb the universe?" -- T. S. Elliot, Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock ************************************* “We are as ignorant of the meaning of the dragon as we are of the meaning of the universe.” -- Jorge Luis Borges ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Pompey made his preparations for the war at the end of the winter, entered upon it at the commencement of spring, and finished it in the middle of the summer." -- Cicero, De Imperio Cn. Pompei |