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I have proof Terence Mckenna was a undercover agent.

 
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very very interesting discussion here. I don't know if its true or not but it supplemented my coffee perfectly.


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Guys, I'm not just pulling this out of my ass. There is sufficient evidence to suggest that the whole LSD movement was co-opted. You actually have to do some reading though.

Same goes for a lot of the old musicians coming out of laurel canyon CA, very suspect. Many had high level military families. Just look up who Jim Morrison's father was.
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It astounds me that you all can work to such degree to discredit someone who has worked for your cause for so long. In the face of huge political risk.
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I am not trying to throw that baby out with the bath water. Again, I think some of his ideas are valid. Other ideas may have been steered.

This is what we are discussing.

I never said that you should not listen to what terence says. Just like all information we receive it needs to be scrutinized.
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very very interesting discussion here. I don't know if its true or not but it supplemented my coffee perfectly.


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Guys, I'm not just pulling this out of my ass. There is sufficient evidence to suggest that the whole LSD movement was co-opted. You actually have to do some reading though.

Same goes for a lot of the old musicians coming out of laurel canyon CA, very suspect. Many had high level military families. Just look up who Jim Morrison's father was.
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Terrance was not an LSD guy.
WAR INSIDE MY HEAD.
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very very interesting discussion here. I don't know if its true or not but it supplemented my coffee perfectly.


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Guys, I'm not just pulling this out of my ass. There is sufficient evidence to suggest that the whole LSD movement was co-opted. You actually have to do some reading though.

Same goes for a lot of the old musicians coming out of laurel canyon CA, very suspect. Many had high level military families. Just look up who Jim Morrison's father was.
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Terrance was not an LSD guy.
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I should have used the term psychedelic instead of LSD.

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Here are some interesting points summed up from this thread and not in order. Remember, things are much different than we are programmed to believe.

Sorry if I missed anything.




rexxturbo

I understand how you feel. Here is my perspective.

Meditation is good in moderation. It should be used to balance your self, but not like a drug escape.

The new age movement wants you to not pay attention to syria, egypt, civil rights abuse in our own country. This is where over use of meditation and drugs come in. this is how many cope and it can be used as a control.

Psychedelics can be used to connect with the source but they can be used for manipulation if critical thinking is not used.

I have seen ufo's but I have not seen any proof to suggest that aliens control the planet.

hope this helps.



However, in Acid Dreams, Marty Lee, states (pg. 173):

It was a typical sixties scene: a group of scruffy, long-haired students stood in a circle passing joints and hash pipes. The setting could have been Berkeley, Ann Arbor or any other hip campus. But these students were actually FBI agents, and the school (BLURP) they attended was known as “Hoover University.” Located at Quantico Marine Base in Virginia, this elite academy specialized in training G-men to penetrate left- wing organizations. To cultivate the proper counterculture image, they were told not to wash or bathe for several days before infiltrating a group of radicals. Refresher courses were also held for FBI agents who had successfully immersed themselves in the drug culture of their respective locales.

(Sensor)

For months they had smoked pot and dropped acid with unsuspecting radicals, and now the turned-on spies had a chance to swap stories with their undercover comrades. Former FBI agent Cril Payne likened the annual seminar to a class reunion. Between lectures on the New Left, drug abuse, and FBI procedure, the G-men would sneak away to the wooded grounds to get stoned while American taxpayers footed the bill.






So there is also the possibility that he was FBI.


Lastly, some have actually tried to claim that the mushrooms recruited McKenna. To this we must apply some logical deduction and critical thinking:

1) Do mushrooms have organizations, deep background and public relations? Or does a spy agency?
2) What would a mushroom need with a public relations or propaganda department? Or is that something a spy agency agency would have?
3) Would mushrooms tell him the less said the better: “deep background positions about which the less said the better”, or is that something an agency would do?
4) Do mushrooms have “positions”? Or does an agency?
5) Are the mushrooms able to pay him because he’s out of money? Or is that something an agency could do? (remember he’s in trouble for smuggling)
6) Are mushrooms able to get him out of trouble with Interpol and the FBI for SMUGGLING? Or is that something an agency like the CIA or FBI could do?
7) Do mushrooms answer the story of what happened to him after his arrest? Or is that something that his employment as an agent would do?

When we understand that he was an agent, as he admits, then the contradictions are removed we don’t have to twist things into believing that magical mushroom beings or UFOs hired and payed him to work in their organization in public relations and deep background to the present – which he wasn’t allowed to discuss. These are things agencies do, not mushrooms or UFOs. Such a claim that the mushrooms recruited him is clearly ridiculous. The false claims of mushroom or aliens recruiting him is clearly a case of psychological cognitive dissonance and reaching for anything to avoid facing the facts which make one feel uncomfortable when they’re faced with new information that might reveal that they were fooled. Rather than dreaming up magical beings to avoid the facts and issues, just laugh it off and admit you were fooled by those people. This way next time it’s less likely to happen to you again.


Excerpt from a conversation from gnostic media.


Jan Irvin

on August 23, 2013 at 9:53 pm

The mushrooms recruited him… PR for the mushroom… ridiculous. Do mushrooms have organizations, deep background and public relations? Or does a spy agency? -Would they tell him the less said the better “deep background positions about which the less said the better”, or is that something an agency would do? Are they able to pay him because he’s out of money? Or is that something the agency would do? Are they able to get him out of trouble with Interpol and the FBI for SMUGGLING? Or is that something the Agency would do? Do they answer the story of what happened to him after his arrest? Or is that something the agency would do? LOL.

When we understand that he was an agent, as he admits, then the contradictions are removed we don’t have to twist things into believing that magical mushroom beings hired and payed him to work in their organization in public relations and deep background to the present – which he wasn’t allowed to discuss. LOL.

“And certainly when I reached La Chorerra in 1971 I had a price on my head by the FBI, I was running out of money, I was at the end of my rope. And then “THEY” recruited me and said, “you know, with a mouth like yours there’s a place for you in our organization”. And I’ve worked in deep background positions about which the less said the better. And then about 15 years ago they shifted me into public relations and I’ve been there to the present.”

Try to think more clearly.

Here’s a whole lot of background study on McKenna and his influences. Maybe get current with the research first and all of the MKULTRA work we’ve done.

You’re obviously just confused because all of this has caused what in psychology is known as “cognitive dissonance” for you. It’s ok, I know you want to have heroes and idols and what not, but maybe you should consider the evidence more deeply that we’ve been compiling for years here and realize that you’ve been had and laugh it off. This attitude of yours is only going to continue your mind control. Just laugh it off and say “ha, they got me but it won’t happen next time!”. You don’t have to hold onto every one of your beliefs like a religion.




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timothy leary and the new age movement is all tied into Lucis trust and share international. this proves now that the people at the top take their marching orders from LAM. no more debate! that means this is all a test and many agents and shills and zombies are on the losing end of this, about to be consumed.
[link to www.boudillion.com]

also means the internet was introduced by them in the 50's to net souls more proficiently. why CERN is attached to it.

[link to starworlds.blogspot.com]

this is validation people. all the agenda 2 and transhuman crap is a alien religion, or new lie to end this cycle and have the addicts participate accordingly to plan.





AC

agree. this tells the MO of the world governments. They introduced drugs for a reason, and not just to fine your ass. lsd was just for starters. now we have synthetic pot, krokodile, meth, Shisha, GMO's, chemtrails, and the addiction of wifi and cloud. and cell phones

think about it real hard. and what Terrence has covered. he emphasized the matrix, and now we see that he got his info from the govt to introduce it like a drug. it means you can avoid taking the hard drugs out of fear, but the people in charge is bringing it to you through the internet, communications, food, and air. and the medical industry. it means the story is collapsing ans all is revealed in the end before it does.






BITOFReason

Arrgh

I hate this shit. Does anyone really think anybody who isnt part of the elite will get a voice as loud as his? Of course he was controlled opp, they control the entirety of the scientific community. Even if they do not realize they are being controlled there are sophisticated mechanisims to ensure the suppression of damaging information and the advancment of compartmentalized science. Where one article sites another as evidence and enough bandwagon and it becomes so. look how much of what we know is later refuted but people of the times argue it as fact. What you can belive is that every day from the majority of the content we read, hear, and see is manipulated. Use ultimate decression when deciphering these sources. Dont be fooled, its obvious it hapens here as well.





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You guys forget that a large portion of the "government's" agenda is to gather data and perform experiments on human behavior.

Psychedelics are severe modifier of behavior, due to being server modifiers of thought.

Terrance is the kind of supreme nut who could have been talking about both the mushrooms AND the government recruiting him. He was acutely aware of the multiplicity of all universal constructs (dude, the levels, man) and would enjoy that as a joke.

He was no prophet, however. He was a raving nut who occasionally mixed some good info in with his rantings - consciously or not.

It makes no difference if he worked for the G or not. Most of what he said is either useless or could be discovered by any high school student.

As for whether or not it's smart to take psychedelics, you have to judge for yourself. The information is out there and you 'd never want to take just ONE guy's opinion on anything :P







rexxturbo

the role of drugs in the exercise of political control is also coming under increasing discussion. Control can be through prohibition or supply. The total or even partial prohibition of drugs gives the government considerable leverage for other types of control. An example would be the selective application of drug laws permitting immediate search, or “no knock” entry, against selected components of the population such as members of certain minority groups or political organizations.

But a government could also supply drugs to help control a population. This method, foreseen by Aldous Huxley in Brave New World (1932), has the governing element employing drugs selectively to manipulate the governed in various ways.

To a large extent the numerous rural and urban communes, which provide a great freedom for private drug use and where hallucinogens are widely used today, are actually subsidized by our society. Their perpetuation is aided by parental or other family remittances, welfare, and unemployment payments, and benign neglect by the police. In fact, it may be more convenient and perhaps even more economical to keep the growing numbers of chronic drug users (especially of the hallucinogens) fairly isolated and also out of the labor market, with its millions of unemployed. To society, the communards with their hallucinogenic drugs are probably less bothersome-and less expensive-if they are living apart, than if they are engaging in alternative modes of expressing their alienation, such as active, organized, vigorous political protest and dissent. […]
The hallucinogens presently comprise a moderate but significant portion of the total drug problem in Western society. The foregoing may provide a certain frame of reference against which not only the social but also the clinical problems created by these drugs can be considered.

~ Louis Jolyon West, Hallucinations: Behavior, Experience, and Theory. 1975. p. 298 ff.






The Director of the Neurophyschiatric Institute and chairman of the Department of Psychiatry at UCLA, Dr. Louis Jolyon West was selected to run the center. Dr. West is alleged to have been a contract agent for the CIA, who, as part of a network of doctors and scientists, gathered intelligence on hallucinogenic drugs, including '___', for the super-secret MK-ULTRA program.

Dr. West was further known as the psychiatrist who was called upon to examine Jack Ruby, Lee Harvey Oswald's assassin. It was on the basis of West's diagnosis that Ruby was compelled to be treated for mental disorders and put on happy pills. The West examination was ordered after Ruby began to say that he was part of a right-wing conspiracy to kill President John Kennedy. Two years after the commencement of treatment for mental disorder, Ruby died of cancer in prison.




Are you starting to get the picture?






Terence McKenna quotes:

“The Mushroom said. [...] But since you brought it up. [...] I would be very interested in seeing a set of social policies, tax incentives, medical policies, insurance policies, put in place to limit male birth. [...]
This is the way to feminize the human race. [...] I’m a feminist. [...] AS A HUMANIST I advocate a reduction in male birth.”
~ Terence McKenna



But now psycho-analysis is being combined with hypnosis; and hypnosis has been made easy and indefinitely extensible through the use of barbiturates, which induce a hypnoid and suggestible state in even the most recalcitrant subjects. Within the next generation I believe that the world’s rulers will discover that infant conditioning and narco-hypnosis are more efficient, as instruments of government, than clubs and prisons, and that the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging and kicking them into obedience. [emphasis added]
~ Aldous Huxley -







Camporesi later continues:

It would be wrong to suppose that one must wait for the arrival of eighteenth-century capitalism, or even of imperialism, in order to see the birth of the problem of the mass spreading of opium derivatives (first of morphine and then, today, of heroin) used to dampen the frenzy of the masses and lead them back – by means of dreams – to the ‘reason’ desired by the groups in power. The opium war against China, the Black Panthers ‘broken’ by drugs, and the ‘ebbing’ of the American and European student movements (supposing that hallucinogenic drugs were involved in the latter, as some believe), are the most commonly used examples – we don’t know with what relevance – to demonstrate how ‘advanced’ capitalism and imperialism have utilized mechanisms which induced collective dreaming and weakened the desire for renewal by means of visionary ‘trips’, in order to impose their will.

The pre-industrial age, too, even if in a more imprecise, rough and ‘natural’ manner, was aware of political strategies allied to medical culture, whether to lessen the pangs of hunger or to limit the turmoil in the streets. Certainly we could laugh at interventions which are so mild as to appear almost surreal, amateurish or improvised; but we must not forget that both in theory and in practice the ‘treatment of the poor man’, cared for with sedatives and hallucinogenic drugs, corresponded to a thought-out medico-political design.

~ Piero Camporesi






AC
Timothy Leary was a CIA tool. meant to bring in the sexual revolution and drug culture with Alfred Kinsey. not only to make money off of crime and prisons for drug users, but to change the people into what they are now...zombies and easily suggestible. [link to www.youtube.com] But it all has to do with Dr. Green Aquino, and what the NAZIS and Soviets were/ are doing with mind control. Look at the Laurel Canyon fake hippie musicians...lip synching computer generated music, and the black dahlia .. mkultra hippies were programmed killers too. all related. Thread: Inside The LC: The Strange but Mostly True Story of Laurel Canyon and the Birth of the Hippie Generation tied into big pharma today and a takeover of everything that people are. Thread: The Maker of Prozac did this, and lives in the Mother of Darkness Castle?? WTF???




So yes, the dude was used to promote a culture. like rap music was to sell gangsta and fill prisons, and do stuff like this... [link to www.youtube.com] it's not all so black and white, this or that thinking. it's metaphysical in nature and people like Terrence were just used up by the machine.






AC
Well idiot depends on what parts of his perspective you disagree with. I mean his social commentary was pretty good, had some a few unique insights too if you listen to all his stuff.. but his 2012, elves etc.. I mean that doesn't make him an idiot necessarily, he always maintained his ignorance.. I just think it makes him another speaker/someone who makes a profit from telling stories.

And not every hollywood producer, tv producer, any person who tells stories to the public, is on the CIA payroll. You see? 95-99% are just normal people acting according to their programming. I don't think McKenna was in that 1% who are agents. Leary was IMO though. I mean a lot of things in the world just take care of themselves.. the CIA, elite etc just need to adjust the course of the ship every now and then to push us in a certain direction.

McKenna didn't reach enough people, and enough smart/powerful people, to be of any danger. I just can't see the CIA warranting attention on McKenna. He just wasn't valuable enough.






Silver Cyprus

I have always been a huge fan of McKenna, but there were always some things that he would say that seemed a bit wrong, and now I see why.

For example, he always seem to get uncomfortable when talking about aliens. He never really would say aliens exist or not, and would always steer the conversation away.

Him being under CIA control would certainly explain that. I imagine the conversation went something like this:

CIA: "Look Terrence, we got you by the balls, but we're gonna cut you a deal. You can keep doing your drugs and talking about spirituality, just don't talk about the aliens. And one of these days we will need you to spout some bullshit scientific theory about history called Timewave Zero to totally discredit you."

T: "Sure thing big bro, whatever you say, just don't throw me in a secret prison."





BitofReason

I as much as the next person who is on this great site enjoy expanding my knowledge. TM was a great fountain of ideas and thought provoking energy. For the same reason "they" chose him we did as well. There are lots of great minds just like his that are in an autonomus role within society and the flow itself is controlled, not the day to day. His being apart of something undercover doesnt automatically discredit things he says. If anything with the brilliant mind he possesed he could well have hidden clues within the doublespeak and such. I as have posted previously understand that if it gets any such broad audience it most likely has been compromised to some extent. Now knowing this doesnt stop me from the pursuit it just encourages me to drive on for truths sake.

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Pin please!

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Timothy Leary went to West Point.
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Timothy Leary went to West Point.
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Interesting.
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thanks for contributing something to the discussion.
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TPTB owned the slave-rum-tobacco global trade companies and they continue to make most of their money doing what what they've always done including narcotrafficking
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you call me a ASS for posting the Blue boy vid
did you even watch it,


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No, i'm sorry I thought you were being a smart ass.
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Can you put a small explanation above it next time. I apologize. I don't stay sober all day.

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Well, after posting earlier and giving this a big think I think I've found my own conclusion.

OP has took what Terence said hugely out of context. Terence often talks in symbolism, as is evident from his novels and lectures, due to the fact that a standard use of the English language would not be sufficient to what he is trying to say.

The thing about the way Terence talks is: it takes full advantage of the imagination. You'll notice this if you've been really relaxed listening to him - in a somewhat meditative state - or even just been high.

He talks in a crude mix of symbolism, latin, and an ensemble of other languages in English. This is, as far as I'm concerned, due to the fact that he has expanded his consciousness far beyond the merits of most people in this world - and definitely most people on GLP.

His ideas and ideologies were in stark contrast to the standardized western ones (which are undoubtedly driven by domination complexes, and the ego - which is what western religions are all about - ego).

OP, and most people in this topic are not able to fathom the kind of linguistics Terence uses (this is probably due to the fact they know nothing about him, or conversely, due to the fact they are on a low-level of consciousness).

Terence, as it seems to be, was and always will be a huge thorn in the backside of all world governments. Because he offers the indisputable truth - but only offers you platforms to find it, with the added spice of his own conclusions, he implores that you find it and experience it yourself. It never expected to people treat him as any kind of messiah (in fact, in most of his lectures and books he says this is the very kind of cancer that has destroyed western society - ideology and messiah complexes).

There was an event soon after his death where his entire library of books and precious notes were burnt down. This says a lot to me after spending a lot of time trying to understand what Terence wanted to communicate to us.

The fact this thread has moderately high ratings, and a horde of lunatics supporting it - may be the final step for my involvement in GLP, and I may never return here, because it has essentially concluded to me that there is either a) purpose and organized disinfo here, b) or more sheep than I cared to imagine before.

Another point, that I think applies to a lot of posts here - is that what Terence commonly communicated is incompatible with their belief systems, and the only way they can dispute what he is saying is the trash him.

Long live Terence, may he have found Nirvana. May he be free from suffering.

Terence, without a doubt in my mind, is one of the greatest minds to have ever roamed this planet. He was a diamond among stones, and truly enlightened in ways that are contrary to standardized western belief systems.

One note I would say is that Terence never paid enough mind to meditation. I know this is something he changed his mind about as he got older, and he did imply this in his books. But, whatever.

hf

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Go and look at who he was rubbing shoulders with. Dude, we all went ouch when we found out, about Jan Irvins discoveries about Terrance, who he was rubbing shoulders with. Eugenicists and the other starts with T and ends in K
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your Mckenna audio sounds more edited than this



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very very interesting discussion here. I don't know if its true or not but it supplemented my coffee perfectly.


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Guys, I'm not just pulling this out of my ass. There is sufficient evidence to suggest that the whole LSD movement was co-opted. You actually have to do some reading though.

Same goes for a lot of the old musicians coming out of laurel canyon CA, very suspect. Many had high level military families. Just look up who Jim Morrison's father was.
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Yeah, but you wouldn't suggest Morrison was co-opted though, would you? I doubt it in his case. I have heard things about the Grateful Dead though. Maybe that's why they could suck and still be popular. ha ha, gonna get hated on now by somebody.

But it is similar to Jackson Pollack. His goofy, talentless paint dripping "art" was sponsored by the CIA. Otherwise, I kind of doubt we'd know about him today.
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very very interesting discussion here. I don't know if its true or not but it supplemented my coffee perfectly.


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Guys, I'm not just pulling this out of my ass. There is sufficient evidence to suggest that the whole LSD movement was co-opted. You actually have to do some reading though.

Same goes for a lot of the old musicians coming out of laurel canyon CA, very suspect. Many had high level military families. Just look up who Jim Morrison's father was.
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Yeah, but you wouldn't suggest Morrison was co-opted though, would you? I doubt it in his case. I have heard things about the Grateful Dead though. Maybe that's why they could suck and still be popular. ha ha, gonna get hated on now by somebody.

But it is similar to Jackson Pollack. His goofy, talentless paint dripping "art" was sponsored by the CIA. Otherwise, I kind of doubt we'd know about him today.
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Actually I would suggest Morrison and the Grateful Dead. Have you read all of Dave's work? It really makes sense.
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very very interesting discussion here. I don't know if its true or not but it supplemented my coffee perfectly.


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Guys, I'm not just pulling this out of my ass. There is sufficient evidence to suggest that the whole LSD movement was co-opted. You actually have to do some reading though.

Same goes for a lot of the old musicians coming out of laurel canyon CA, very suspect. Many had high level military families. Just look up who Jim Morrison's father was.
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Yeah, but you wouldn't suggest Morrison was co-opted though, would you? I doubt it in his case. I have heard things about the Grateful Dead though. Maybe that's why they could suck and still be popular. ha ha, gonna get hated on now by somebody.

But it is similar to Jackson Pollack. His goofy, talentless paint dripping "art" was sponsored by the CIA. Otherwise, I kind of doubt we'd know about him today.
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Actually I would suggest Morrison and the Grateful Dead. Have you read all of Dave's work? It really makes sense.
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I'll take a look. It is actually kind of depressing though to think about the fact that much of what we take as an organic process (achieving fame, popularity, sometimes critical favor and artistic credibility) is really just a process of offstage choreography by a hidden elite. Oh well!
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your Mckenna audio sounds more edited than this


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SO I have heard that its fake and that its out of context. I doubt its both and probably not either. Why would someone fake an out of context audio clip?
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Guys, I'm not just pulling this out of my ass. There is sufficient evidence to suggest that the whole LSD movement was co-opted. You actually have to do some reading though.

Same goes for a lot of the old musicians coming out of laurel canyon CA, very suspect. Many had high level military families. Just look up who Jim Morrison's father was.
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Yeah, but you wouldn't suggest Morrison was co-opted though, would you? I doubt it in his case. I have heard things about the Grateful Dead though. Maybe that's why they could suck and still be popular. ha ha, gonna get hated on now by somebody.

But it is similar to Jackson Pollack. His goofy, talentless paint dripping "art" was sponsored by the CIA. Otherwise, I kind of doubt we'd know about him today.
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Actually I would suggest Morrison and the Grateful Dead. Have you read all of Dave's work? It really makes sense.
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I'll take a look. It is actually kind of depressing though to think about the fact that much of what we take as an organic process (achieving fame, popularity, sometimes critical favor and artistic credibility) is really just a process of offstage choreography by a hidden elite. Oh well!
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This is why its referred to as the matrix.
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Yeah, but you wouldn't suggest Morrison was co-opted though, would you? I doubt it in his case. I have heard things about the Grateful Dead though. Maybe that's why they could suck and still be popular. ha ha, gonna get hated on now by somebody.

But it is similar to Jackson Pollack. His goofy, talentless paint dripping "art" was sponsored by the CIA. Otherwise, I kind of doubt we'd know about him today.
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Actually I would suggest Morrison and the Grateful Dead. Have you read all of Dave's work? It really makes sense.
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I'll take a look. It is actually kind of depressing though to think about the fact that much of what we take as an organic process (achieving fame, popularity, sometimes critical favor and artistic credibility) is really just a process of offstage choreography by a hidden elite. Oh well!
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This is why its referred to as the matrix.
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I just read the stuff about Morrison. I think I'd read it before, actually.

Anyway, in his case, my feeling is it is just weird synchronicity. Rather than Jim Morrison simply being an overt, knowing agent of the man, perhaps there is a deeper patterning going on. Something maybe a little creepier, perhaps more "esoteric." Don't know. But my feeling about Morrison, having read biographies and seen interviews, is that he was honestly rebelling. Nothing would surprise me though.
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I'll take a look. It is actually kind of depressing though to think about the fact that much of what we take as an organic process (achieving fame, popularity, sometimes critical favor and artistic credibility) is really just a process of offstage choreography by a hidden elite. Oh well!
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that's what it all is. all natural heroes are killed, the rest are forced.

all the world's a stage, and all the men and women merely players.

still a lot of good stuff from mckenna. i always recommend the bruce lee approach: sample everything, keep what's useful, discard the rest.

don't write anyone or anything off completely due to certain aspects of it. that's a huge way they get us to write off some great material.
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I'll take a look. It is actually kind of depressing though to think about the fact that much of what we take as an organic process (achieving fame, popularity, sometimes critical favor and artistic credibility) is really just a process of offstage choreography by a hidden elite. Oh well!
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that's what it all is. all natural heroes are killed, the rest are forced.

all the world's a stage, and all the men and women merely players.

still a lot of good stuff from mckenna. i always recommend the bruce lee approach: sample everything, keep what's useful, discard the rest.

don't write anyone or anything off completely due to certain aspects of it. that's a huge way they get us to write off some great material.
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This thread is producing good info. Keep it up.

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You guys are missing the point......
None of that shit matters.
As I said before-
IF YOU HAVEN'T USED THE COMPOUNDS with proper set/setting/dosage and had your Ego totally "out of the way" and experienced what GOD is- you don't know shit.

THAT is the ONLY reason we are here!!!!!!!

ALL else is Ego chatter...

You must find God within and KNOW that you are IT.

Fuck Faith, Belief, and Religion!!!!

Those are only ego stroking traps that prevent enlightenment.

AND DISCONNECT THAT DAMN TV!!!!!!!!!!

Namaste!
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timothy leary and the new age movement is all tied into Lucis trust and share international. this proves now that the people at the top take their marching orders from LAM. no more debate! that means this is all a test and many agents and shills and zombies are on the losing end of this, about to be consumed.
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also means the internet was introduced by them in the 50's to net souls more proficiently. why CERN is attached to it.

[link to starworlds.blogspot.com]

this is validation people. all the agenda 2 and transhuman crap is a alien religion, or new lie to end this cycle and have the addicts participate accordingly to plan.
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Phil Schneider RIGHT AGAIN!

The top is ran by demonic entities otherwise known as "aliens". The Government has been doing business with them since Truman.
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It's also interesting to note that if you follow the hippie movement hack to it's root, it was a "Jesus Culture" where they were basically Christian hippies who believed if you followed the teachings of Jesus, life would be easy. TPTB got note of this, and know if the World followed the teachings of Jesus, the matrix would crumble,and introduced LSD and New Age occultism and rock bands.

Ever since then the "hippie" roots has been associated with drugs, sex, and rock... when in fact it was about the teaching of Jesus
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Well, after posting earlier and giving this a big think I think I've found my own conclusion.

OP has took what Terence said hugely out of context. Terence often talks in symbolism, as is evident from his novels and lectures, due to the fact that a standard use of the English language would not be sufficient to what he is trying to say.

The thing about the way Terence talks is: it takes full advantage of the imagination. You'll notice this if you've been really relaxed listening to him - in a somewhat meditative state - or even just been high.

He talks in a crude mix of symbolism, latin, and an ensemble of other languages in English. This is, as far as I'm concerned, due to the fact that he has expanded his consciousness far beyond the merits of most people in this world - and definitely most people on GLP.

His ideas and ideologies were in stark contrast to the standardized western ones (which are undoubtedly driven by domination complexes, and the ego - which is what western religions are all about - ego).

OP, and most people in this topic are not able to fathom the kind of linguistics Terence uses (this is probably due to the fact they know nothing about him, or conversely, due to the fact they are on a low-level of consciousness).

Terence, as it seems to be, was and always will be a huge thorn in the backside of all world governments. Because he offers the indisputable truth - but only offers you platforms to find it, with the added spice of his own conclusions, he implores that you find it and experience it yourself. It never expected to people treat him as any kind of messiah (in fact, in most of his lectures and books he says this is the very kind of cancer that has destroyed western society - ideology and messiah complexes).

There was an event soon after his death where his entire library of books and precious notes were burnt down. This says a lot to me after spending a lot of time trying to understand what Terence wanted to communicate to us.

The fact this thread has moderately high ratings, and a horde of lunatics supporting it - may be the final step for my involvement in GLP, and I may never return here, because it has essentially concluded to me that there is either a) purpose and organized disinfo here, b) or more sheep than I cared to imagine before.

Another point, that I think applies to a lot of posts here - is that what Terence commonly communicated is incompatible with their belief systems, and the only way they can dispute what he is saying is the trash him.

Long live Terence, may he have found Nirvana. May he be free from suffering.

Terence, without a doubt in my mind, is one of the greatest minds to have ever roamed this planet. He was a diamond among stones, and truly enlightened in ways that are contrary to standardized western belief systems.

One note I would say is that Terence never paid enough mind to meditation. I know this is something he changed his mind about as he got older, and he did imply this in his books. But, whatever.

hf

Fuck this thread.
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clappa
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Rex-
Here's a quote from Martin Ball on McKenna-taken from an article on "Reality Sandwich".

GREAT WEBSITE BTW......

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"In short, Terence's experiences boil down to one fundamental truth: They are the experiences of someone who is consuming very powerful entheogens, yet is failing to recognize the projections and creations of his own ego while in that state. From the perspective of unitary consciousness, Terence appears to have never managed to transcend his ego and therefore appears to have failed to realize the genuinely true potential of the entheogenic medicines he ingested."

This is exactly what I mean.

So then he was flamed by all the other readers because they too had never reached unitary consciousness.

But I still do love Terence! He's super fluent, intelligent, and funny as hell.

Namaste!
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one major problem with his method was going it alone in the dark

that is a major no no and goes against the shamanic ways he was promoting

the role of the shaman is very important but he was completely caught up
by his not liking the guru scene which he had encountered in India Nepal

this led to his crisis

we need another to stabilize the runaway train that our ego eventually
becomes if your carrying a heavy load on a fast track...
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Holy shit what does this mean?

Does this mean one shouldnt be into drug induced spirit quests because the TPTB are in on it?

Do the drugs open people up to demon attack or make them more easily cowed?

need some answers here.