I have proof Terence Mckenna was a undercover agent.

Yes. The 'they' he is referring too is not the FBI

This COULD be the truth.
With the joyful Leprechaun that was Terrance McKenna, anything was POSSIBLE.
My guess is that if this is true, he took their bank, their safety and then told people to stay the hell away from the culture and the power structure so he was really conning the powers that be .

"I have worked in deep background positions with the less said the better"

-Terence

Can you explain to me why glp will not link any article discussing this matter? People in this thread had to go to ridiculous measures to post the article.

This is no proof, he never said he was an agent of the fbi.
And from my personal opinion this is your disinfo!
How dare you? LOL And if folks give you 1 star you throw a fit like a child? If you want to be taken seriously you should act accordingly.

that answer does not help your thread.

When you combine the other work Jan has done in regards to Esalen, Leary and MK ultra it all falls into place.

I uploaded the full youtube video to this thread.

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can someone explain how they would use LSD as a "control"?

because anyone I've met has been awakened by this drug. same with mushrooms, DMT, and other similar psychedelics. I just don't understand how McKenna would be controlled opposition, what is there to control?

not doubting the audio it sounds 100% like his voice but I just don't understand what the FBI/CIA would even need him for. or Leary?

I am still trying to grasp the full understanding as well. I think it has to do with creating apathetic people.

Just like the new age movement teaches people not to be active and instead of exposing the evil, just meditate and don't think about negative things.

same with

"Turn on tune in drop out"

creates passive people.

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I recomend going to Gnostic media and reading Jans articles. I will be doing the same. I have only briefly skimmed them. I don't agree with everything he says but his work on the mushroom and christianity is pretty well done as well as his MK-ultra work.

Quite the profile you have. Sockpuppet shell account?

Sounds all too like Jimmy Saville's claim to have been working in deep cover.

for pin

well I did enjoy his talks and I feel he was genuine in his heart and it came through nicely . so no harm done here.

I doubt you would be the best person to judge the extent of your programming.

I feel sick reading this thread. I don't know if its because it contradicts all I taken from Terrance (his books, lectures, etc) or because I now know to the extent disinfo is circulating on GLP.

I feel like everything is disinfo to stop me meditating.

I don't know what the fuck to think about psychedelics. Do aliens want me to take them so I join their agenda? Or are they truly a method of opening the mind...

Fucking hell.

Why does everyone have some fucking agenda.. for a moment I can believe they don't. But everything seems to be acting in contrary to my meditation.

What the fuck is this place and so many agendas have plagued my mind. God fucking damn

When I was in my early 20s I did drugs with people who were all plur and practically worshiped Mckenna and they also fed me bs about 2012 being the harmonic convergence. Boy was I delusional in those days.
Timewavezero was a total bust,
and Mckenna himself died of brain cancer.

I understand how you feel. Here is my perspective.

Meditation is good in moderation. It should be used to balance your self, but not like a drug escape.

The new age movement wants you to not pay attention to syria, egypt, civil rights abuse in our own country. This is where over use of meditation and drugs come in. this is how many cope and it can be used as a control.

Psychedelics can be used to connect with the source but they can be used for manipulation if critical thinking is not used.

I have seen ufo's but I have not seen any proof to suggest that aliens control the planet.

hope this helps.

However, in Acid Dreams, Marty Lee, states (pg. 173):

It was a typical sixties scene: a group of scruffy, long-haired students stood in a circle passing joints and hash pipes. The setting could have been Berkeley, Ann Arbor or any other hip campus. But these students were actually FBI agents, and the school (BLURP) they attended was known as “Hoover University.” Located at Quantico Marine Base in Virginia, this elite academy specialized in training G-men to penetrate left- wing organizations. To cultivate the proper counterculture image, they were told not to wash or bathe for several days before infiltrating a group of radicals. Refresher courses were also held for FBI agents who had successfully immersed themselves in the drug culture of their respective locales.

(Sensor)

For months they had smoked pot and dropped acid with unsuspecting radicals, and now the turned-on spies had a chance to swap stories with their undercover comrades. Former FBI agent Cril Payne likened the annual seminar to a class reunion. Between lectures on the New Left, drug abuse, and FBI procedure, the G-men would sneak away to the wooded grounds to get stoned while American taxpayers footed the bill.

So there is also the possibility that he was FBI.

Lastly, some have actually tried to claim that the mushrooms recruited McKenna. To this we must apply some logical deduction and critical thinking:

1) Do mushrooms have organizations, deep background and public relations? Or does a spy agency?
2) What would a mushroom need with a public relations or propaganda department? Or is that something a spy agency agency would have?
3) Would mushrooms tell him the less said the better: “deep background positions about which the less said the better”, or is that something an agency would do?
4) Do mushrooms have “positions”? Or does an agency?
5) Are the mushrooms able to pay him because he’s out of money? Or is that something an agency could do? (remember he’s in trouble for smuggling)
6) Are mushrooms able to get him out of trouble with Interpol and the FBI for SMUGGLING? Or is that something an agency like the CIA or FBI could do?
7) Do mushrooms answer the story of what happened to him after his arrest? Or is that something that his employment as an agent would do?

When we understand that he was an agent, as he admits, then the contradictions are removed we don’t have to twist things into believing that magical mushroom beings or UFOs hired and payed him to work in their organization in public relations and deep background to the present – which he wasn’t allowed to discuss. These are things agencies do, not mushrooms or UFOs. Such a claim that the mushrooms recruited him is clearly ridiculous. The false claims of mushroom or aliens recruiting him is clearly a case of psychological cognitive dissonance and reaching for anything to avoid facing the facts which make one feel uncomfortable when they’re faced with new information that might reveal that they were fooled. Rather than dreaming up magical beings to avoid the facts and issues, just laugh it off and admit you were fooled by those people. This way next time it’s less likely to happen to you again.

simple. if a real untaken essence -- you are fine. this is to harvest the ones that spy on you using the aliens electronic Ouija board basically , and all the zombie sell outs. seriously

the entities were allowed control over frequency and substance to create an illusion to out the flaws in a batch of essences. not kidding. the life experience sifts out the weak and those prone to take on a virus.

Excerpt from a conversation from gnostic media.


Jan Irvin

on August 23, 2013 at 9:53 pm

The mushrooms recruited him… PR for the mushroom… ridiculous. Do mushrooms have organizations, deep background and public relations? Or does a spy agency? -Would they tell him the less said the better “deep background positions about which the less said the better”, or is that something an agency would do? Are they able to pay him because he’s out of money? Or is that something the agency would do? Are they able to get him out of trouble with Interpol and the FBI for SMUGGLING? Or is that something the Agency would do? Do they answer the story of what happened to him after his arrest? Or is that something the agency would do? LOL.

When we understand that he was an agent, as he admits, then the contradictions are removed we don’t have to twist things into believing that magical mushroom beings hired and payed him to work in their organization in public relations and deep background to the present – which he wasn’t allowed to discuss. LOL.

“And certainly when I reached La Chorerra in 1971 I had a price on my head by the FBI, I was running out of money, I was at the end of my rope. And then “THEY” recruited me and said, “you know, with a mouth like yours there’s a place for you in our organization”. And I’ve worked in deep background positions about which the less said the better. And then about 15 years ago they shifted me into public relations and I’ve been there to the present.”

Try to think more clearly.

Here’s a whole lot of background study on McKenna and his influences. Maybe get current with the research first and all of the MKULTRA work we’ve done.

You’re obviously just confused because all of this has caused what in psychology is known as “cognitive dissonance” for you. It’s ok, I know you want to have heroes and idols and what not, but maybe you should consider the evidence more deeply that we’ve been compiling for years here and realize that you’ve been had and laugh it off. This attitude of yours is only going to continue your mind control. Just laugh it off and say “ha, they got me but it won’t happen next time!”. You don’t have to hold onto every one of your beliefs like a religion.

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The recording is suspect, the last question asked was pasted in and wasn't the original question

THE SHILL IS STRONG!

OP:
You're telling people to stop riding the T.Mckenna horse, to get down and take a rational look at the information you've provided: deconstructing what he said in the vague context it was said in, it leaves no actual solid answer. You've made an assumption, at best.

You have no substantial evidence or key tones, I believe it is you that needs to step of your horse.
You're quick to hate on people who love him, yet you take no time to condemn yourself for hating him yourself. Your own logic is fallible and is partly ironic

I'm trying to be objective here, because, we are talking about psychedelics. Drug(s) I believe are consciousness expanding and not the opposite.(Questionable if you've ever had any: Psychedelics don't take kindly to your obviously apparent ego)

I think you're either a shill, very misguided or you just have a underlining compulsive hatred for T.M because absolutely nothing you have posted, linked or quoted really solidifies your original thesis. In fact, looking at the bigger picture (and not specifically the audio grab/context) I'm left attempting to make sense of anything you're trying to put forth.

Take a step back from your own ego.

I'm being very nice, I believe, your post are self explanatory and a indication of your intelligence level.
Also, flaming people, doesn't give you any extra room to tread.

TL;DR
You're a retard.

Paid shills trying to confuse you.

Arrgh

I hate this shit. Does anyone really think anybody who isnt part of the elite will get a voice as loud as his? Of course he was controlled opp, they control the entirety of the scientific community. Even if they do not realize they are being controlled there are sophisticated mechanisims to ensure the suppression of damaging information and the advancment of compartmentalized science. Where one article sites another as evidence and enough bandwagon and it becomes so. look how much of what we know is later refuted but people of the times argue it as fact. What you can belive is that every day from the majority of the content we read, hear, and see is manipulated. Use ultimate decression when deciphering these sources. Dont be fooled, its obvious it hapens here as well.