I have proof Terence Mckenna was a undercover agent.

research the pleasure principle...immediate gratification and ego.

Thanks, I had you marked for shill, but my mind has been changed. Enjoy your day.

We also know that mushrooms and ayahausca were used in ceremony for thousands of years by indigenous tribes who respected thiet environment.

No man just a dude who loved food of the gods... Used to grow my own sacrament and drank ayauasca in Peru

Check out these blog posts on Terence McKenna. Good stuff.


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Exactly. Terrance was never imprisoned. He didn't have to work a deal.

Yeh but that doesn't equate into McKenna being CIA does it. The psychedelic bandwagon was started long before he came on the scene. There were plenty of nutbars speaking to the hippies and others already. Why would they need to sponsor McKenna when he was a product of what was already in motion! I mean he grew up on all that shit and ate it like a lot of other people, he was programmed from the beginning.. no need to recruit him, just let the man waffle on his own. You understand?

Leary I think was clearly CIA. I mean he was an academic in psychology. Prime target. McKenna was nobody by comparison.

Well, after posting earlier and giving this a big think I think I've found my own conclusion.

OP has took what Terence said hugely out of context. Terence often talks in symbolism, as is evident from his novels and lectures, due to the fact that a standard use of the English language would not be sufficient to what he is trying to say.

The thing about the way Terence talks is: it takes full advantage of the imagination. You'll notice this if you've been really relaxed listening to him - in a somewhat meditative state - or even just been high.

He talks in a crude mix of symbolism, latin, and an ensemble of other languages in English. This is, as far as I'm concerned, due to the fact that he has expanded his consciousness far beyond the merits of most people in this world - and definitely most people on GLP.

His ideas and ideologies were in stark contrast to the standardized western ones (which are undoubtedly driven by domination complexes, and the ego - which is what western religions are all about - ego).

OP, and most people in this topic are not able to fathom the kind of linguistics Terence uses (this is probably due to the fact they know nothing about him, or conversely, due to the fact they are on a low-level of consciousness).

Terence, as it seems to be, was and always will be a huge thorn in the backside of all world governments. Because he offers the indisputable truth - but only offers you platforms to find it, with the added spice of his own conclusions, he implores that you find it and experience it yourself. It never expected to people treat him as any kind of messiah (in fact, in most of his lectures and books he says this is the very kind of cancer that has destroyed western society - ideology and messiah complexes).

There was an event soon after his death where his entire library of books and precious notes were burnt down. This says a lot to me after spending a lot of time trying to understand what Terence wanted to communicate to us.

The fact this thread has moderately high ratings, and a horde of lunatics supporting it - may be the final step for my involvement in GLP, and I may never return here, because it has essentially concluded to me that there is either a) purpose and organized disinfo here, b) or more sheep than I cared to imagine before.

Another point, that I think applies to a lot of posts here - is that what Terence commonly communicated is incompatible with their belief systems, and the only way they can dispute what he is saying is the trash him.

Long live Terence, may he have found Nirvana. May he be free from suffering.

Terence, without a doubt in my mind, is one of the greatest minds to have ever roamed this planet. He was a diamond among stones, and truly enlightened in ways that are contrary to standardized western belief systems.

One note I would say is that Terence never paid enough mind to meditation. I know this is something he changed his mind about as he got older, and he did imply this in his books. But, whatever.



Fuck this thread.

He admits the FBI was after him. How did he get teh FBI off his case?

Basically a willful idiot. I have heard this position before. Its a possibility. Regardless I think he was steered in some way.

Maybe something in his notes would have given him up as an agent?

If you don't already know that there is organized disinfo here, you probably should not be visiting GLP.

(in response to fuck this thread)

In psychology, cognitive dissonance is the discomfort experienced when simultaneously holding two or more conflicting cognitions: ideas, beliefs, values or emotional reactions. In a state of dissonance, people may sometimes feel "disequilibrium": frustration, hunger, dread, guilt, anger, embarrassment, anxiety, etc.

You are clearly clutching at straws here, mate.

It's more probable to suggest there was something in his notes that would make you look like the clown you are.

Come on op. That last poster had a beautiful and brilliant statement. To call them a willful idiot was not really needed.

Well idiot depends on what parts of his perspective you disagree with. I mean his social commentary was pretty good, had some a few unique insights too if you listen to all his stuff.. but his 2012, elves etc.. I mean that doesn't make him an idiot necessarily, he always maintained his ignorance.. I just think it makes him another speaker/someone who makes a profit from telling stories.

And not every hollywood producer, tv producer, any person who tells stories to the public, is on the CIA payroll. You see? 95-99% are just normal people acting according to their programming. I don't think McKenna was in that 1% who are agents. Leary was IMO though. I mean a lot of things in the world just take care of themselves.. the CIA, elite etc just need to adjust the course of the ship every now and then to push us in a certain direction.

McKenna didn't reach enough people, and enough smart/powerful people, to be of any danger. I just can't see the CIA warranting attention on McKenna. He just wasn't valuable enough.

I have always been a huge fan of McKenna, but there were always some things that he would say that seemed a bit wrong, and now I see why.

For example, he always seem to get uncomfortable when talking about aliens. He never really would say aliens exist or not, and would always steer the conversation away.

Him being under CIA control would certainly explain that. I imagine the conversation went something like this:

CIA: "Look Terrence, we got you by the balls, but we're gonna cut you a deal. You can keep doing your drugs and talking about spirituality, just don't talk about the aliens. And one of these days we will need you to spout some bullshit scientific theory about history called Timewave Zero to totally discredit you."

T: "Sure thing big bro, whatever you say, just don't throw me in a secret prison."

Back so soon.

I thought you were leaving GLP.

Only problem with that is that he was conjuring up time wave zero based on the iching a long time ago. I just think the dude thought. And spoke his thoughts. Pretty sure he could give a rats ass weather you could follow him or believe him or not.

I was saying that maybe terence was a willful idiot in the grand scheme of things. I will have to look at my post.

Did not mean it to come off that way.

Ok gotcha. Posting from my phone. Not the best medium.

I don't think terrence was an idiot. Its just an expression.

I do agree with a lot of the points that you bring up and I consider it a possibility as well.

Well there aren't many people here working to discredit you, which is absurd. I know you are unable to win in a battle of linguistic wit with me - so I shall stay as long as you continue your disinfo.

Hence why your replies to me as so short. I bet you were shivering reading my post.

the 2012 timewave zero thing was no passing thought. it was done over many years and involved Terrence pressuring academics into the thought process. it was a big sell.

I as much as the next person who is on this great site enjoy expanding my knowledge. TM was a great fountain of ideas and thought provoking energy. For the same reason "they" chose him we did as well. There are lots of great minds just like his that are in an autonomus role within society and the flow itself is controlled, not the day to day. His being apart of something undercover doesnt automatically discredit things he says. If anything with the brilliant mind he possesed he could well have hidden clues within the doublespeak and such. I as have posted previously understand that if it gets any such broad audience it most likely has been compromised to some extent. Now knowing this doesnt stop me from the pursuit it just encourages me to drive on for truths sake.

Yes shivering. and this is what I think of you amazing linguistics.

Well said,


Thanks for posting.

Last Edited by rexxturbo on 08/24/2013 02:46 PM

Regardless of sides, a lot of good information has been posted in this discussion.

Thanks for your replies.

It astounds me that you all can work to such degree to discredit someone who has worked for your cause for so long. In the face of huge political risk.

very very interesting discussion here. I don't know if its true or not but it supplemented my coffee perfectly.


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