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Op if nukes are a hoax why would govs world wide keep on threatening each other with them. Would you think that one stage some would call your bluff knowing they did not exist?
 Quoting: Ozi 45665005


They are all in on it, we have a One World Order.

It's only us silly peasants who think the elite are not all on the same page.

They're laughing their arses off while they manipulate us and rob us blind.
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 Quoting: Lamplite


Well that much is true.
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It also does not explain the Geiger counter readings that are still highly elevated at the bomb site's of Nagasaki and Hiroshima.
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What does highly elevated mean? People live there and have done ever since and apparently no deformed babies are now born there but really deformed babies are born everywhere so what did that prove anyway?

People visit Chernobyl with near not effects and simply painting a bomb with uranium with give a radio active reading to an area ie a dirty bomb. Proves nothing.
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Seriously are you that brain washed?

another do
 Quoting: Lamplite


yep he is obviously a troll...stole the plot to a fictional novel ( [link to en.wikipedia.org] and now is seeing how many morons he can string along
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1406520


Nah...This "theory" has been around for at least a few years.

Since 2010ish...


[link to www.google.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Rayrayz

Well then the original theory was based on the book..it was written in 1970
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1406520


Not sure how you could say that a theory was based on an obscure book written in 1970.

It's a poor way to try to debunk something.

You could say that the "New World Order" theory was just some half wits ripping off the idea from '1984'.

It's silly.

Try using actual evidence other than some ridiculous notion that people are basing their beliefs off of a fictional novel.

I'm not a proponent of the "nuke hoax" theory but your conspiracy theory is way more ridiculous than this one.

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It also does not explain the Geiger counter readings that are still highly elevated at the bomb site's of Nagasaki and Hiroshima.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45224965


What does highly elevated mean? People live there and have done ever since and apparently no deformed babies are now born there but really deformed babies are born everywhere so what did that prove anyway?

People visit Chernobyl with near not effects and simply painting a bomb with uranium with give a radio active reading to an area ie a dirty bomb. Proves nothing.
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 Quoting: Lamplite


i applaud your research and conclusions (albeit, i haven't been through all of it), how do you perceive the elevated cancer incidences, and birth mutations after the development of nuclear technologies, indeed the best we have is belaris?

not trolling/ undermining a difference of opinion, just asking...

cheers

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Radiation is not even as dangerous as they make out.

You can go on a tour right up to Chernobyl with no protective clothing. Life never stopped there, beside the plant a forest stands which is full of life.


Chernobyl - Life in the Dead Zone (1/5) HQ
[link to www.youtube.com]

Chernobyl - Life in the Dead Zone (2/5) HQ
[link to www.youtube.com]

Chernobyl - Life in the Dead Zone (3/5) HQ
[link to www.youtube.com]

Chernobyl - Life in the Dead Zone (4/5) HQ
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Chernobyl - Life in the Dead Zone (5/5) HQ
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 Quoting: Lamplite


I have my B.S in Radiation Science, I can tell you radiation is certainly dangerous given the proper dose. The evidence you purport is true, is insufficient to prove anything, especially that atomic bombs are a hoax. Most importantly, no REASONABLE argument exists that would prove that these bombs were "fake".
It also does not explain the Geiger counter readings that are still highly elevated at the bomb site's of Nagasaki and Hiroshima.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45224965


Don't people and haven't people lived in those cities even though the bombs were drop there. I think most places has radiation and more if you have plutonium mines any where around, not saying they do but there are other thing that make Geiger counters a false reading. The whole thing is strange but it could be true. I don't know.

One way would be to check before and after pictures of those two cities, how quick they were rebuilt, things like old newspapers etc.. would help.

I have to tell you I am surprised, there are animals at the Russia blast they can be die and mutate from radiation we are told. There should be no animals there. It is almost like a reclaiming earth project. Japan during ww2 a population control, we did have those groups during that time and they also are into recalling the planet for themselves.
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Radiation is not even as dangerous as they make out.

You can go on a tour right up to Chernobyl with no protective clothing. Life never stopped there, beside the plant a forest stands which is full of life.


Chernobyl - Life in the Dead Zone (1/5) HQ
[link to www.youtube.com]

Chernobyl - Life in the Dead Zone (2/5) HQ
[link to www.youtube.com]

Chernobyl - Life in the Dead Zone (3/5) HQ
[link to www.youtube.com]

Chernobyl - Life in the Dead Zone (4/5) HQ
[link to www.youtube.com]

Chernobyl - Life in the Dead Zone (5/5) HQ
[link to www.youtube.com]
 Quoting: Lamplite


I have my B.S in Radiation Science, I can tell you radiation is certainly dangerous given the proper dose. The evidence you purport is true, is insufficient to prove anything, especially that atomic bombs are a hoax. Most importantly, no REASONABLE argument exists that would prove that these bombs were "fake".
It also does not explain the Geiger counter readings that are still highly elevated at the bomb site's of Nagasaki and Hiroshima.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45224965


Don't people and haven't people lived in those cities even though the bombs were drop there. I think most places has radiation and more if you have plutonium mines any where around, not saying they do but there are other thing that make Geiger counters a false reading. The whole thing is strange but it could be true. I don't know.

One way would be to check before and after pictures of those two cities, how quick they were rebuilt, things like old newspapers etc.. would help.

I have to tell you I am surprised, there are animals at the Russia blast they can be die and mutate from radiation we are told. There should be no animals there. It is almost like a reclaiming earth project. Japan during ww2 a population control, we did have those groups during that time and they also are into recalling the planet for themselves.
 Quoting: Daughter


the difference is the way the stuff works....

in a bomb it explodes... (vaporized, gone)
in a slow release environment where it is being built for a bomb? (fuku).. catastrophic....

part of the reason these plants were built in amongst the populous (kind of like bombing the enemies schools and churches/ a no, no)

Last Edited by Citizenperth on 08/27/2013 01:18 AM
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I am usually open to new ideas or theories (Isn't that what GLP is all about?) no matter how outrageous, but winning people over to your viewpoint - especially one that says that nuclear weapons are a hoax and nothing but propaganda - should involve gentle persuasion of facts, not emotion. Calling people morons, idiots, assholes, etc for not believing what you do does absolutely nothing for your credibility - let alone your cause.

As for myself, I find it extremely unlikely that blasts of the enormous magnitude captured on film could have been pulled off simply by throwing some phosphorus in with a few boxes of TNT. No Way. The technology involved would have been more difficult than simply creating the nuclear bomb to begin with. This conspiracy is just far too large to have been covered up for such a long time without so much as a single leak.
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yep he is obviously a troll...stole the plot to a fictional novel ( [link to en.wikipedia.org] and now is seeing how many morons he can string along
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1406520


Nah...This "theory" has been around for at least a few years.

Since 2010ish...


[link to www.google.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Rayrayz

Well then the original theory was based on the book..it was written in 1970
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1406520


Not sure how you could say that a theory was based on an obscure book written in 1970.

It's a poor way to try to debunk something.

You could say that the "New World Order" theory was just some half wits ripping off the idea from '1984'.

It's silly.

Try using actual evidence other than some ridiculous notion that people are basing their beliefs off of a fictional novel.

I'm not a proponent of the "nuke hoax" theory but your conspiracy theory is way more ridiculous than this one.
 Quoting: Rayrayz


would agree if the author of the 'theory' didnt steal direst passages from the book and way to random to be coincidence plot points..if you had read the book you would understand.............unless of course you subscibe to the whole 'hidden in plain sight' train of thought
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would agree if the author of the 'theory' didnt steal direst passages from the book and way to random to be coincidence plot points..if you had read the book you would understand.............unless of course you subscibe to the whole 'hidden in plain sight' train of thought
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Oh for shit's sake I had never even heard of that book before today.

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i applaud your research and conclusions (albeit, i haven't been through all of it), how do you perceive the elevated cancer incidences, and birth mutations after the development of nuclear technologies, indeed the best we have is belaris?

not trolling/ undermining a difference of opinion, just asking...

cheers

cp
 Quoting: Citizenperth


Who knows how much to believe or not believe. I have had tons of xrays and they have had no effect. My sister whose a nurse reckons radiation is usually past out of the body within a week.

But really who knows? Too much of anything is not good for you.
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Radiation is not even as dangerous as they make out.

You can go on a tour right up to Chernobyl with no protective clothing. Life never stopped there, beside the plant a forest stands which is full of life.


Chernobyl - Life in the Dead Zone (1/5) HQ
[link to www.youtube.com]

Chernobyl - Life in the Dead Zone (2/5) HQ
[link to www.youtube.com]

Chernobyl - Life in the Dead Zone (3/5) HQ
[link to www.youtube.com]

Chernobyl - Life in the Dead Zone (4/5) HQ
[link to www.youtube.com]

Chernobyl - Life in the Dead Zone (5/5) HQ
[link to www.youtube.com]
 Quoting: Lamplite


haha you are an idiot. Answer to the Bold. Ask any cancer patient that?? I had a relative go through radiation therapy and I can tell you it made them more sick. They died from the cancer though.

But I suppose through your stupidity you believe that cancer patient are told a lie and that it's really not radiation they are using???

You sir/madam are stupid
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Don't people and haven't people lived in those cities even though the bombs were drop there. I think most places has radiation and more if you have plutonium mines any where around, not saying they do but there are other thing that make Geiger counters a false reading. The whole thing is strange but it could be true. I don't know.

One way would be to check before and after pictures of those two cities, how quick they were rebuilt, things like old newspapers etc.. would help.

I have to tell you I am surprised, there are animals at the Russia blast they can be die and mutate from radiation we are told. There should be no animals there. It is almost like a reclaiming earth project. Japan during ww2 a population control, we did have those groups during that time and they also are into recalling the planet for themselves.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45224965


The trees of Hiroshima budded up the very next spring and that those who survived (the fire bombing) stayed and rebuilt immediately.

The population around 1910 was 143,000. Before World War II, Hiroshima's population had grown to 360,000, and peaked at 419,182 in 1942. Following the atomic bombing in 1945, the population dropped to 137,197. By 1955, the city's population had returned to pre-war levels. (strange don't you think considering the place was meant to be full of radiation!)

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

The city was rebuilt immediately and A Jesuits who was beyond a hill a bit further away when the blast went off was asked this question (old chip shown) "What is your opinion regarding the belief that the ruins of the city omitted deadly rays" his reply was "I think it was just a rumour as myself and others worked in the city immediately after the explosion and we suffered no ill effects what-so-ever.

[link to www.youtube.com]

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would agree if the author of the 'theory' didnt steal direst passages from the book and way to random to be coincidence plot points..if you had read the book you would understand.............unless of course you subscibe to the whole 'hidden in plain sight' train of thought
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45348440


Oh for shit's sake I had never even heard of that book before today.

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I know ..but you also said you based 'your research' on someone elses..all I'm saying is they obviously had heard of the book!
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would agree if the author of the 'theory' didnt steal direst passages from the book and way to random to be coincidence plot points..if you had read the book you would understand.............unless of course you subscibe to the whole 'hidden in plain sight' train of thought
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45348440


Oh for shit's sake I had never even heard of that book before today.

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 Quoting: Lamplite


I know ..but you also said you based 'your research' on someone elses..all I'm saying is they obviously had heard of the book!
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Yes, the other persons research started mine but I have done my own research which is mostly what is in this thread.
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scalar electro-magnetic Tesla weapons (some-times called "Tesla howitzers") are the real 'nukes'...a proto-type, made by Tesla him-self, may have even caused the Tunguskya incident in Siberia in the early 1900s...

the whole, bogus, Cold War 'nuclear arms race' was cooked up by the New World Order germs to try and usher in their bogus, global police state...it didn't work!

now...they're trying other BS....hopefully, that'll fall in a heap too....



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would agree if the author of the 'theory' didnt steal direst passages from the book and way to random to be coincidence plot points..if you had read the book you would understand.............unless of course you subscibe to the whole 'hidden in plain sight' train of thought
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45348440


Oh for shit's sake I had never even heard of that book before today.

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 Quoting: Lamplite


I know ..but you also said you based 'your research' on someone elses..all I'm saying is they obviously had heard of the book!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45348440


Why?

Do you think that only one person is capable of conceiving a theory?

It's not like this is that weird of an idea...I'm 100% positive that this theory could have been thought about and researched without the use of this silly novel.
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Looks to me like the main basis for the argument is that the radiation from the bombs should have made Hiroshima uninhabitable by any living thing. Based on what do you make this assumption? Specifically, why do you think that everything should have remained intensely radioactive after the initial blast of radiation? Do you have a legitimate source of objective scientific data to back your belief that the blast area should have been rendered uninhabitable by the radiation released?
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I am usually open to new ideas or theories (Isn't that what GLP is all about?) no matter how outrageous, but winning people over to your viewpoint - especially one that says that nuclear weapons are a hoax and nothing but propaganda - should involve gentle persuasion of facts, not emotion. Calling people morons, idiots, assholes, etc for not believing what you do does absolutely nothing for your credibility - let alone your cause.
 Quoting: 72Pantera


Yeah this could have been an interesting thread, to bad the OP screwed it up because their emotions got the best of them.

The part i find a little amusing is when the OP talks on the rebuilding of the city, what did you expect them to do? sit there and just die? they were probably to poor to relocate and really had no idea that the bomb had put radiation in the air because of lack of information on tv, radio and no one probably wanted to enter the area to inform them. They did what any human would do, strive to survive by creating a shelter and rebuilding what they could.

Im not sure what to think of this thread, at first i was open minded but the negative responses the poster is posting is making them look a little bit Schizophrenic and im unsure i can believe someone who cant control themselves. Sorry.

Maybe someone will bring back this topic in a few months and handle it a little better and make it more interesting instead of just calling people names.
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Looks to me like the main basis for the argument is that the radiation from the bombs should have made Hiroshima uninhabitable by any living thing. Based on what do you make this assumption? Specifically, why do you think that everything should have remained intensely radioactive after the initial blast of radiation? Do you have a legitimate source of objective scientific data to back your belief that the blast area should have been rendered uninhabitable by the radiation released?
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I think we have all heard the propaganda


When the (supposed) atom bomb dropped on Hiroshima in 1945, a majority of its buildings were completed destroyed (really by carpet fire bombing like Dresden). With landscapes demolished, soils charred and radiation rampant, (not) Dr. Harold Jacobsen, a scientist from the Manhattan Project, told the Washington Post, Hiroshima “will be barren of life and nothing will grow for 75 years.”


Phoenix Trees in 1945 (Photo by Eric Kim)

The trees had a different idea.

Chinese Parasol trees (aka Phoenix Trees) about 1300 meters from hypocenter, had no major structures between them and the blast. They were hit hard. They lost all of their branches and their trunks were hallowed out and burned on the side facing the blast. They were assumed, and understandably so, to be dead. But the very next spring, new leaves budded.

[link to tgaw.wordpress.com]

and 130,000 survivors never left. They just immediately started to rebuild.
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Sorry, but your hoax "theory" is a giant load of crap.

[link to thepatiodiaries.files.wordpress.com]

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Im not sure what to think of this thread, at first i was open minded but the negative responses the poster is posting is making them look a little bit Schizophrenic and im unsure i can believe someone who cant control themselves. Sorry.

Maybe someone will bring back this topic in a few months and handle it a little better and make it more interesting instead of just calling people names.
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lol considering all the abuse I have received.

Actually I have ignored most of the shills on this thread.

Nice try, but I agree when it is next brought up it will probably be better received. It takes people a while to think things over and consider them.

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Looks to me like the main basis for the argument is that the radiation from the bombs should have made Hiroshima uninhabitable by any living thing. Based on what do you make this assumption? Specifically, why do you think that everything should have remained intensely radioactive after the initial blast of radiation? Do you have a legitimate source of objective scientific data to back your belief that the blast area should have been rendered uninhabitable by the radiation released?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45787594


I think we have all heard the propaganda


When the (supposed) atom bomb dropped on Hiroshima in 1945, a majority of its buildings were completed destroyed (really by carpet fire bombing like Dresden). With landscapes demolished, soils charred and radiation rampant, (not) Dr. Harold Jacobsen, a scientist from the Manhattan Project, told the Washington Post, Hiroshima “will be barren of life and nothing will grow for 75 years.”


Phoenix Trees in 1945 (Photo by Eric Kim)

The trees had a different idea.

Chinese Parasol trees (aka Phoenix Trees) about 1300 meters from hypocenter, had no major structures between them and the blast. They were hit hard. They lost all of their branches and their trunks were hallowed out and burned on the side facing the blast. They were assumed, and understandably so, to be dead. But the very next spring, new leaves budded.

[link to tgaw.wordpress.com]

and 130,000 survivors never left. They just immediately started to rebuild.
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 Quoting: Lamplite
In other words, no, you have no scientific basis to believe this. You just repeated it as though you've proven it and expected me to take your word for it.

I see no reason why the trees shouldn't have budded the following year. I see no reason why people shouldn't have rebuilt their homes. That is because I see no factual basis to believe that the area should have become uninhabitable.

If you'd care to provide some scientific data that would tend to support your assumption, I'll look at it the best way I can (being an electronics/software guy with a pretty good education, but not a nuclear physicist). However, without evidence to back your central assumption, you're just another kook who believes in Santa Claus IMO.
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Chinese Parasol trees (aka Phoenix Trees) about 1300 meters from hypocenter, had no major structures between them and the blast. They were hit hard. They lost all of their branches and their trunks were hallowed out and burned on the side facing the blast. They were assumed, and understandably so, to be dead. But the very next spring, new leaves budded.

[link to tgaw.wordpress.com]

and 130,000 survivors never left. They just immediately started to rebuild.
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What about other trees? those trees you have mentioned are basically a weed and extremely hard to kill, even once they look dead they will grow again (Phoenix trees!), what effect did the bomb have on other trees? you only mention the one species.
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Question;

What is a "fictional novel"....that exists?

Geez, you would have thought I said something absolutely
ludicrous...like we didn't go to the moon or the
Holocaust was faked to make shitloads of shekels
for a certain group...or 9/11 was done by...oh wait..
I digress...back to your regularly scheduled PROGRAMMING.

Whadda ya think I am, nuts?
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would agree if the author of the 'theory' didnt steal direst passages from the book and way to random to be coincidence plot points..if you had read the book you would understand.............unless of course you subscibe to the whole 'hidden in plain sight' train of thought
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45348440


Oh for shit's sake I had never even heard of that book before today.

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 Quoting: Lamplite


I know ..but you also said you based 'your research' on someone elses..all I'm saying is they obviously had heard of the book!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45348440


Why?

Do you think that only one person is capable of conceiving a theory?

It's not like this is that weird of an idea...I'm 100% positive that this theory could have been thought about and researched without the use of this silly novel.
 Quoting: Rayrayz

So the novel is silly but the theory which is identical to its whole premise is not???
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Can someone please explain to me the physics behind the formation of a mushroom cloud. Intuitively, I suspect an extremely large explosion of energy would not be as organized as the mushroom cloud appears to be in every detonation. I imagine that an explosion of this magnitude would disperse smoke, debris, and all sorts of fall out in all directs and look like a complete black-out rather than a formation that is so organized, i.e., a mushroom cloud. Thank you in advance.

hmm
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I just want to read OP's explanation for the shockwaves... how were those faked? and

one more question for OP..

Did America, Russia, United Kingdom, France, China, India, Pakistan, North Korea, and Israel all get together and decide to fake atom bombs? what would be the purpose of those countries agreeing to fake them?

how do those nations fake the shockwaves OP? Please explain.

You avoided these questions earlier and I'd like to know why.
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Can someone please explain to me the physics behind the formation of a mushroom cloud. Intuitively, I suspect an extremely large explosion of energy would not be as organized as the mushroom cloud appears to be in every detonation. I imagine that an explosion of this magnitude would disperse smoke, debris, and all sorts of fall out in all directs and look like a complete black-out rather than a formation that is so organized, i.e., a mushroom cloud. Thank you in advance.

hmm
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the 'explosion' happens in nano-seconds.. when this happens, between the 'event' and the repercussions naturally leave this unique shape... quite amazing...

so, the blast fist expands, but in retrospect has a vacuum to fill.

the resultant behavior, is a cloud that is highly compressed, and then rises, (the top of the mushroom)

the 'stalk' is the resultant tornado that forms after the initial cloud rises and expands.....

beautiful in a scary way....
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Oh for shit's sake I had never even heard of that book before today.

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I know ..but you also said you based 'your research' on someone elses..all I'm saying is they obviously had heard of the book!
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Why?

Do you think that only one person is capable of conceiving a theory?

It's not like this is that weird of an idea...I'm 100% positive that this theory could have been thought about and researched without the use of this silly novel.
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So the novel is silly but the theory which is identical to its whole premise is not???
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Your theory is sillier.

Something tells me your the author of this 'hard hitting and riveting' novel...

Is this book available and still in circulation?

Or would I have to go to Australia and look for it at old ladies yard sales?
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Hmm so your saying our sun does not have fusion going on and ect... also i guess your claiming albert Einstien is wrong as well?

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