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Oh, man. There is a convergence occurring, and I am on the fence.

As this is happening, I feel like I cannot be the only one, and that I may just be using my imagination and that it is not real, but something I am coming up with, making connections where I shouldn't, understanding things that I shouldn't, etc.

I cannot talk about this with anyone, so I'll just post it here. Not many will know what the hell I am talking about, because I do not talk about certain 'coincidences' that occur through others outside myself, and yet involve me. I take these things as a number of different interpretations, and the first and foremost that comes to mind, is mind games. Then, I follow the path of WHY, and it resolves as circular logic. The WHY is because of the IS. The IS, superficially, is the WHY.

I have began reading the Nag Hammadi, going deeper into history and teachings, and I understand it in a clear way that I imagine most do not. The fucking problem is, others have felt they understood it as well, and that understanding would be different from mine. Then, I understand that the reason is because of the uniqueness of individuality; what is true for one, may not be true for another. Then, what is the point of any of the Gospels, any of the Gnostics, any of the wisdom of Shamans, etc, if it cannot be expressed as a general truth? All veiled in allegory, in parables, in symbols, etc.

So, it is a guide and not an answer. And the seeing of the knowledge that is beyond language...what do you do with it!? The world is so full of information overload, to try and express it, you would just be one amongst the many. Did Jesus and Buddha and Zoroaster and Moses, etc have this difficulty?

Damn, I am going into left field, but I am so curious. Yes, they did, even until the time of their death, with the teachings coming later. It was all localized until a time where the information could spread via word of mouth. And, what made their thoughts so attainable to the people. Even with Jesus it was all fairly localized until they killed him.

And Tesla's stuff is STILL hidden and not to see the light of day. He, one of many beyond count, I am positive.

So, what is the point of it all? Why discuss what you intuit? Why do it? I suppose for individual enlightenment or whatever...but...

Look at Jesus and the machinations that occurred afterwards. Look at John, and all the teachings being secreted away. At Egypt and its history, the Vatican and its hidden knowledge. The Templar and their treasure that has never made a difference to the overall human condition.

What is the point of seeking and knocking and an opening of the way to Grail? Too much fucking greed and selfishness and elitism.

Why trust that behavior when it is what the human condition has been built on? Why say anything about knowledge gleaned from the other side when it is just ammunition to the dickheads that can easily destruct the messages into false realities as easy as believing you are only lived within flesh?

As I once felt, the reason being it is up to self in order to come to the answer. That is true, but, IMO, has become distorted, and has become a massive excuse to hide it all and to keep it within secrecy. Fuck that. As if this ideology has worked and proven fruitful.



Talk about rambling. I suppose taking a break from GLP is actually doing me a lot of good. I am seeing things in a much broader perspective, in a more understanding way as to why mystics and whatever find it more to the benefit to all to shut the fuck up so what they have been blessed with will not be used against them. Not that it can be used against them personally, but their teachings twisted so to be disregarded.
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umb
road ahead
umb
do not judge those who try and fail.If you must then judge those who fail to try..


I have always thought to myself,If one thought can change the world.
Then surely one thought could have created the universe.


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or the birds in the sky, and they will tell you;
or speak to the earth, and it will teach you,
or let the fish in the sea inform you." - Job 12:7,8
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Yes, like the whole WOS bullshit. The only ones looking for her, wanted to expose and destroy her, or at least stop her. She always suspected that would be the case, so stayed low.

But the dickheads can only destroy aspects of her life, and not her. She will endure. And the dickheads will not be around to see heaven does make a home on planet earth.

However, GLP will never see her again.
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Yes, like the whole WOS bullshit. The only ones looking for her, wanted to expose and destroy her, or at least stop her. She always suspected that would be the case, so stayed low.

But the dickheads can only destroy aspects of her life, and not her. She will endure. And the dickheads will not be around to see heaven does make a home on planet earth.

However, GLP will never see her again.
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Why post this on this thread? Kind of silly.
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nobody knows

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the successful human, uses both.


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nobody knows

life is all hills and valleys

the successful human, uses both.


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Hey! I always enjoy your stuff, though it gets a little heady for me.

My favorite part of what I have read from you, is that you were staying in...Tasmania? I think I have that wrong, but weren't you staying in some far out place for awhile?

I envy you of that. So fucking cool.
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What ya mean; "heady"...I cant unnerstand most of urs :))
cruise

Ya Tassie, is great, well, yeah, it is but as well, thereis a LOT of the arcane embellished into the streetscapes etc...

monolithic mountains abound and some spectacular geolohy went into it...

Aether says the dolerite formed in Lake St Claire Cradle mountain was formed, and the eroded remnant peaks are 1600 metres...

pretty impressive...


for me, its simple, fluid, mechanics...

very intuitive, can tend to make ya loopy, but thas just it aint it "Lodge Loopy"/.. the "hidden Degree"


so yeah...

I just see we are living under a triune spell and am hopeful, that our combined heads will break it.

best to you man.

ps, back to nomenclature and the arcane...find me an anagram of Tasmania...hint: Formerly known as Van Diemans Land.

The battle to put Asmodeufss :"under" was huge...albeit, not yet complete.

cruise
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Oh, man. There is a convergence occurring, and I am on the fence.

As this is happening, I feel like I cannot be the only one, and that I may just be using my imagination and that it is not real, but something I am coming up with, making connections where I shouldn't, understanding things that I shouldn't, etc.

I cannot talk about this with anyone, so I'll just post it here. Not many will know what the hell I am talking about, because I do not talk about certain 'coincidences' that occur through others outside myself, and yet involve me. I take these things as a number of different interpretations, and the first and foremost that comes to mind, is mind games. Then, I follow the path of WHY, and it resolves as circular logic. The WHY is because of the IS. The IS, superficially, is the WHY.

I have began reading the Nag Hammadi, going deeper into history and teachings, and I understand it in a clear way that I imagine most do not. The fucking problem is, others have felt they understood it as well, and that understanding would be different from mine. Then, I understand that the reason is because of the uniqueness of individuality; what is true for one, may not be true for another. Then, what is the point of any of the Gospels, any of the Gnostics, any of the wisdom of Shamans, etc, if it cannot be expressed as a general truth? All veiled in allegory, in parables, in symbols, etc.

So, it is a guide and not an answer. And the seeing of the knowledge that is beyond language...what do you do with it!? The world is so full of information overload, to try and express it, you would just be one amongst the many. Did Jesus and Buddha and Zoroaster and Moses, etc have this difficulty?

Damn, I am going into left field, but I am so curious. Yes, they did, even until the time of their death, with the teachings coming later. It was all localized until a time where the information could spread via word of mouth. And, what made their thoughts so attainable to the people. Even with Jesus it was all fairly localized until they killed him.

And Tesla's stuff is STILL hidden and not to see the light of day. He, one of many beyond count, I am positive.

So, what is the point of it all? Why discuss what you intuit? Why do it? I suppose for individual enlightenment or whatever...but...

Look at Jesus and the machinations that occurred afterwards. Look at John, and all the teachings being secreted away. At Egypt and its history, the Vatican and its hidden knowledge. The Templar and their treasure that has never made a difference to the overall human condition.

What is the point of seeking and knocking and an opening of the way to Grail? Too much fucking greed and selfishness and elitism.

Why trust that behavior when it is what the human condition has been built on? Why say anything about knowledge gleaned from the other side when it is just ammunition to the dickheads that can easily destruct the messages into false realities as easy as believing you are only lived within flesh?

As I once felt, the reason being it is up to self in order to come to the answer. That is true, but, IMO, has become distorted, and has become a massive excuse to hide it all and to keep it within secrecy. Fuck that. As if this ideology has worked and proven fruitful.



Talk about rambling. I suppose taking a break from GLP is actually doing me a lot of good. I am seeing things in a much broader perspective, in a more understanding way as to why mystics and whatever find it more to the benefit to all to shut the fuck up so what they have been blessed with will not be used against them. Not that it can be used against them personally, but their teachings twisted so to be disregarded.
 Quoting: Septenary Spirals


I had to stop reading because of your use of the F word. Thanks for showing no respect to those of us that find it offensive.
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pps..the dolerite was formed by lightning


Asmodeus also came via lightning

Plasma universe ring any bells?
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In the past 3 years ive dove head first into researching anything and everything. From ancient civilizations to modern conspiracies and even consciousness and the universe. I feel deeply in my soul that we are alive in a very special-twisted time. I have noone close to discuss it with either man. I feel like im loaded with very valuable information in which noone gives the time of day to listen. I dont know how to utilize everything I know to its fullest extent. Ive lost family-friends over some of my research.

GLP is awesome where I can connect with likeminded folk. It also can weigh heavy sometimes. I took a couple week break from the internet in general. I do feel a bit refreshed.

Anyways, youve had a lot of great threads man. You have all this information but where do we go from here? I feel disheartened every day seeing people in there own little bubble worlds oblivious to everything. Sorry I countered your rant with another rant. I want to help, inform, and learn just like you. Just feeling discouraged at this point. What else can we do?
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Hey brother!

We are like penguins who live and die to breed on a piece of ice that one can say is as cold as hell. Not all will make it and many will die. One penguin dies and another is born to take it place.

The FIAT LUX is within our DNA that gives us thirst for knowledge of all things and the drive to create things to further our immortality. It is akin to the penguin, but we are humans who within our DNA we live and die to spread the light of knowledge and create truth so help us god.

All knowledge is old knowledge relearned and it comes from with our DNA computers which have a internal drive that makes us who we are and do what we do. One brothers unfinished business is a future brothers duty to carry it on.

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No clue.....You dig too deep, you find yourself on the surface.

Memory is a harsh mistress.
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Hey brother!

We are like penguins who live and die to breed on a piece of ice that one can say is as cold as hell. Not all will make it and many will die. One penguin dies and another is born to take it place.

The FIAT LUX is within our DNA that gives us the thirst for knowledge of all things and the drive to create things to further our immortality. It is akin to the penguin, but we are humans who within our DNA we live and die to spread the light of knowledge and create truth so help us god.

All knowledge is old knowledge relearned and it comes from with our DNA computers which have a internal drive that makes us who we are and do what we do. One brothers unfinished business is a future brothers duty to carry it on.
 Quoting: Gnostic Warrior




I am wondering if you and SS and of course others would entertain an idea of leadership based on wisdom? I am very much doing what you suggest in your last sentence by discussing what I got out of AL Kitselman`s work, Hello Stupid! on another forum. I have been reluctant to discuss it here due to the overall maturity level of the forum, you two however would be great to bounce the idea off of.

[link to www.hellostupid.org]

Quick overview, he claims current forms of govt do not work so he proposes that leadership should be based on wisdom. He does not flesh out this idea in the book, iirc saying the time and technology was not right, I believe back in 66` or so.

AL Kitselman was a running mate of TT Brown.

BM`ing the thread, great post SS.
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It's in your name, Spirals. The ever expanding Fibonacci Sequence, eternally expanding outward and inward. Any thing which jumps from one point to another, leaves a trail of "ghosts" at every point in between. These correlations...quantum chains...whatever you want to call them...they are the likenesses which you are seeing. I see them too. They almost made me mad as a hatter (or perhaps I really am). You are a wise man. And don't worry about keeping secrets. Let it all out, man. Some of us are here to respectfully trade it with you.
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ego, the fastest way to destroy someone is through their ego.

the one thing the men you mentioned had in common is that their personal egos were not overly involved in their devotions. their work took precedence.
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What ya mean; "heady"...I cant unnerstand most of urs :))
cruise

Ya Tassie, is great, well, yeah, it is but as well, thereis a LOT of the arcane embellished into the streetscapes etc...

monolithic mountains abound and some spectacular geolohy went into it...

Aether says the dolerite formed in Lake St Claire Cradle mountain was formed, and the eroded remnant peaks are 1600 metres...

pretty impressive...


for me, its simple, fluid, mechanics...

very intuitive, can tend to make ya loopy, but thas just it aint it "Lodge Loopy"/.. the "hidden Degree"


so yeah...

I just see we are living under a triune spell and am hopeful, that our combined heads will break it.

best to you man.

ps, back to nomenclature and the arcane...find me an anagram of Tasmania...hint: Formerly known as Van Diemans Land.

The battle to put Asmodeufss :"under" was huge...albeit, not yet complete.

cruise
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lmao! - Exactly!
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Oh, man. There is a convergence occurring, and I am on the fence.

As this is happening, I feel like I cannot be the only one, and that I may just be using my imagination and that it is not real, but something I am coming up with, making connections where I shouldn't, understanding things that I shouldn't, etc.

I cannot talk about this with anyone, so I'll just post it here. Not many will know what the hell I am talking about, because I do not talk about certain 'coincidences' that occur through others outside myself, and yet involve me. I take these things as a number of different interpretations, and the first and foremost that comes to mind, is mind games. Then, I follow the path of WHY, and it resolves as circular logic. The WHY is because of the IS. The IS, superficially, is the WHY.

I have began reading the Nag Hammadi, going deeper into history and teachings, and I understand it in a clear way that I imagine most do not. The fucking problem is, others have felt they understood it as well, and that understanding would be different from mine. Then, I understand that the reason is because of the uniqueness of individuality; what is true for one, may not be true for another. Then, what is the point of any of the Gospels, any of the Gnostics, any of the wisdom of Shamans, etc, if it cannot be expressed as a general truth? All veiled in allegory, in parables, in symbols, etc.

So, it is a guide and not an answer. And the seeing of the knowledge that is beyond language...what do you do with it!? The world is so full of information overload, to try and express it, you would just be one amongst the many. Did Jesus and Buddha and Zoroaster and Moses, etc have this difficulty?

Damn, I am going into left field, but I am so curious. Yes, they did, even until the time of their death, with the teachings coming later. It was all localized until a time where the information could spread via word of mouth. And, what made their thoughts so attainable to the people. Even with Jesus it was all fairly localized until they killed him.

And Tesla's stuff is STILL hidden and not to see the light of day. He, one of many beyond count, I am positive.

So, what is the point of it all? Why discuss what you intuit? Why do it? I suppose for individual enlightenment or whatever...but...

Look at Jesus and the machinations that occurred afterwards. Look at John, and all the teachings being secreted away. At Egypt and its history, the Vatican and its hidden knowledge. The Templar and their treasure that has never made a difference to the overall human condition.

What is the point of seeking and knocking and an opening of the way to Grail? Too much fucking greed and selfishness and elitism.

Why trust that behavior when it is what the human condition has been built on? Why say anything about knowledge gleaned from the other side when it is just ammunition to the dickheads that can easily destruct the messages into false realities as easy as believing you are only lived within flesh?

As I once felt, the reason being it is up to self in order to come to the answer. That is true, but, IMO, has become distorted, and has become a massive excuse to hide it all and to keep it within secrecy. Fuck that. As if this ideology has worked and proven fruitful.



Talk about rambling. I suppose taking a break from GLP is actually doing me a lot of good. I am seeing things in a much broader perspective, in a more understanding way as to why mystics and whatever find it more to the benefit to all to shut the fuck up so what they have been blessed with will not be used against them. Not that it can be used against them personally, but their teachings twisted so to be disregarded.
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I had to stop reading because of your use of the F word. Thanks for showing no respect to those of us that find it offensive.
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I'm glad it doesn't bother you if I offend anyone. If I did, I would not speak at all. Fuckin' a.
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I also see the connections:

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No clue.....You dig too deep, you find yourself on the surface.

Memory is a harsh mistress.
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Then, it is what it is.

Cheers!
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Should the brain feel guilty because it doesn't wear shoes?
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No clue.....You dig too deep, you find yourself on the surface.

Memory is a harsh mistress.
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Then, it is what it is.

Cheers!


Hey guys, sorry to interrupt but I've been chatting with Kai for a bit, and I like yr style Spirals :)

I'll break it down and be completely blunt. There are shills and paid fools here. I know them by their fruits, so to speak.

Regardless, I'd rather be out in the open. As an musician. Sharing. All these fucking wanna be nobodies don't have an army. If you know what I mean.

Put yr money where your mouth is. Make a difference. Be humble with your gifts, but use them well. That's all that's been playing as a loop of some strange unheard song in my brain (BRIAN) lately.

To put it bluntly, FUCK ART, LET'S DANCE.

In Love and Humility,
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I also see the connections:

Thread: Code Talking
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Jump in, take it while you can. ;)

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confussion is a very good thing, on the cusp, the manic mind swirls to clear the way. Uploading to a new clarity, loco going all genius an shit;)
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I have began reading the Nag Hammadi, going deeper into history and teachings, and I understand it in a clear way that I imagine most do not. The fucking problem is, others have felt they understood it as well, and that understanding would be different from mine. Then, I understand that the reason is because of the uniqueness of individuality; what is true for one, may not be true for another. Then, what is the point of any of the Gospels, any of the Gnostics, any of the wisdom of Shamans, etc, if it cannot be expressed as a general truth? All veiled in allegory, in parables, in symbols, etc.

So, it is a guide and not an answer
. And the seeing of the knowledge that is beyond language...what do you do with it!? The world is so full of information overload, to try and express it, you would just be one amongst the many. Did Jesus and Buddha and Zoroaster and Moses, etc have this difficulty?
 Quoting: Septenary Spirals


I was thinking about the use of 'secret sayings' not long ago. To be honest I can't even perceive how they could function as a guide to others.

They were not meant to be understood by those whose awareness was rooted in the 'physical' as they were designed to disguise deeper/veiled spiritual wisdom/truths.

(1) And he said, "Whoever finds the interpretation of these sayings will not experience death" - Gospel Of Thomas

The thing is, no amount of studying or analyzing the sayings will help the readers interpret or decipher their deeper meanings. So the sayings themselves are not really guiding the reader any greater understanding or awareness. It is only AFTER an individual experiences that transformation of awareness do the meanings of 'secret sayings' actually become clear.

So what's the function of them really? You won't understand them until you assimilate the awareness level of the author who communicated them - but the messages themselves don't facilitate that process. So they will only make sense once you share the perspective of the author - but at that point, you're really not being aided or benefiting from the 'sayings', only receiving affirmation of something you've already experienced or figured out on your own accord.

So what the hell is their purpose/function/value?

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You are making progress.
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And Tesla's stuff is STILL hidden and not to see the light of day. He, one of many beyond count, I am positive.

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I come from a universe without the Walker Brothers.

How does this relate to Tesla?

Despite a deep seated obsession with music which borders on mental illness and even led to buying Anthony Newely albums because Bowie mentioned him, I had never heard of The Walker Brothers.

David Bowie did an art hoax once, wherein he convincingly created an entire fictional past complete with fictional works for a fictional artist:


[link to www.harpersbazaar.com]

The author reveals how he and David Bowie created Nat Tate, the greatest artist who never really lived. For more of "Nat Tate's" work, see our slideshow.

Then David Bowie played Tesla in a movie about interdimensional time travel:



Next, a Bowie directed documentary on The Walker brothers appears. Along with the Walker Brothers. Born the day after Bowie:



Why does Bowie say he "sees God" in the control room window? The reflection of the creator? As in, he is the mastermind of some inconceivable time traveling collaborative art ensamble?

(the logical explanation is even stranger-a hitherthough unknown form of selective amnesia that allows me to remember every other even slightly relevant group from the time period (including Unit 4+2 (!)) but wipes out only memories related to the Walker bros.)

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One way to time travel:
[link to www.gutenberg.org]
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Oh, man. There is a convergence occurring, and I am on the fence.

As this is happening, I feel like I cannot be the only one, and that I may just be using my imagination and that it is not real, but something I am coming up with, making connections where I shouldn't, understanding things that I shouldn't, etc.

I cannot talk about this with anyone, so I'll just post it here. Not many will know what the hell I am talking about, because I do not talk about certain 'coincidences' that occur through others outside myself, and yet involve me. I take these things as a number of different interpretations, and the first and foremost that comes to mind, is mind games. Then, I follow the path of WHY, and it resolves as circular logic. The WHY is because of the IS. The IS, superficially, is the WHY.

I have began reading the Nag Hammadi, going deeper into history and teachings, and I understand it in a clear way that I imagine most do not. The fucking problem is, others have felt they understood it as well, and that understanding would be different from mine. Then, I understand that the reason is because of the uniqueness of individuality; what is true for one, may not be true for another. Then, what is the point of any of the Gospels, any of the Gnostics, any of the wisdom of Shamans, etc, if it cannot be expressed as a general truth? All veiled in allegory, in parables, in symbols, etc.

So, it is a guide and not an answer. And the seeing of the knowledge that is beyond language...what do you do with it!? The world is so full of information overload, to try and express it, you would just be one amongst the many. Did Jesus and Buddha and Zoroaster and Moses, etc have this difficulty?

Damn, I am going into left field, but I am so curious. Yes, they did, even until the time of their death, with the teachings coming later. It was all localized until a time where the information could spread via word of mouth. And, what made their thoughts so attainable to the people. Even with Jesus it was all fairly localized until they killed him.

And Tesla's stuff is STILL hidden and not to see the light of day. He, one of many beyond count, I am positive.

So, what is the point of it all? Why discuss what you intuit? Why do it? I suppose for individual enlightenment or whatever...but...

Look at Jesus and the machinations that occurred afterwards. Look at John, and all the teachings being secreted away. At Egypt and its history, the Vatican and its hidden knowledge. The Templar and their treasure that has never made a difference to the overall human condition.

What is the point of seeking and knocking and an opening of the way to Grail? Too much fucking greed and selfishness and elitism.

Why trust that behavior when it is what the human condition has been built on? Why say anything about knowledge gleaned from the other side when it is just ammunition to the dickheads that can easily destruct the messages into false realities as easy as believing you are only lived within flesh?

As I once felt, the reason being it is up to self in order to come to the answer. That is true, but, IMO, has become distorted, and has become a massive excuse to hide it all and to keep it within secrecy. Fuck that. As if this ideology has worked and proven fruitful.



Talk about rambling. I suppose taking a break from GLP is actually doing me a lot of good. I am seeing things in a much broader perspective, in a more understanding way as to why mystics and whatever find it more to the benefit to all to shut the fuck up so what they have been blessed with will not be used against them. Not that it can be used against them personally, but their teachings twisted so to be disregarded.
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I had to stop reading because of your use of the F word. Thanks for showing no respect to those of us that find it offensive.
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Oh my!

Maybe you should go find a Baptist Forum.
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I had to stop reading because of your use of the F word. Thanks for showing no respect to those of us that find it offensive.
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Is it useless to solve things? Probably. Those in control lock everything away because they don't want anything to rock the boat because they are at the top and don't want to lose control.

I read one account that the Bushes grabbed Tesla's stuff. I wouldn't doubt it since they've been a crime family since at least Prescott.

What happened to all his and other's stuff? Maybe they can already travel throughout the solar system. Who knows? It's all a game and it shows that you're enlightened if you even get far enough to understand that.
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Hey brother!

We are like penguins who live and die to breed on a piece of ice that one can say is as cold as hell. Not all will make it and many will die. One penguin dies and another is born to take it place.

The FIAT LUX is within our DNA that gives us the thirst for knowledge of all things and the drive to create things to further our immortality. It is akin to the penguin, but we are humans who within our DNA we live and die to spread the light of knowledge and create truth so help us god.

All knowledge is old knowledge relearned and it comes from with our DNA computers which have a internal drive that makes us who we are and do what we do. One brothers unfinished business is a future brothers duty to carry it on.
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I am wondering if you and SS and of course others would entertain an idea of leadership based on wisdom? I am very much doing what you suggest in your last sentence by discussing what I got out of AL Kitselman`s work, Hello Stupid! on another forum. I have been reluctant to discuss it here due to the overall maturity level of the forum, you two however would be great to bounce the idea off of.

[link to www.hellostupid.org]

Quick overview, he claims current forms of govt do not work so he proposes that leadership should be based on wisdom. He does not flesh out this idea in the book, iirc saying the time and technology was not right, I believe back in 66` or so.

AL Kitselman was a running mate of TT Brown.

BM`ing the thread, great post SS.
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This was always the goal from Plato's Republic and the Philosopher kings who are the rulers of Plato's Utopian Kallipolis. Philosophers [must] become kings…or those now called kings [must]…genuinely and adequately philosophize"

And to Bacon's Atlantis which is the United States.

It seems that is what we have in place at the moment, even though it may seem like we are ruled by what appear to be Tyrants, I guess we may as well call them Philosopher Tyrants hell bent on fulfilling prophecy.

If you look around there is no shortage of wisdom to be found, and some can say there has not been a time in recent history where there has been so much knowledge and wisdom available to the every day common man on the street. It is just shrouded in chaos and allegory an covered in a bunch of shit.

What we are seeing now is the destruction of our old ways to bring in this new kingdom based on wisdom from slave to master to king. Those who lack wisdom may not make it to the next age by default due to social engineering.
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