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Comet Collisions, an email from the edge
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Emperor Kenton
User ID: 87536
5/9/2006 10:32 AM
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[actually the "inside edge"]
EMAIL:
5/9/2006 1 18 AM Pacific Daylight Time
Dear Kent,
I may have mentioned this before, but, just in case: I have heard from two sources who are well-informed (one being my source who used to work in the govt's UFO program and the other being a NASA physicist) that one of the hypotheses entertained but not publicly discussed is that in instances wherein large objects were originally thought to be on a collision course with Earth, some intelligent force may have redirected their trajectories rather than the astronomers who made the original collision report failing to carry the 2, as it were.
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Been hearing this too, reports from the edge that declare that deflector shields are part of ancient tech with mention of the Azore region-- underwater.--Kent
[link to www.cyberspaceorbit.com] |
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Emperor Kenton
User ID: 87536
5/9/2006 10:37 AM
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I post this after many years of discourse with the emailer. I really think this individual is "plugged in."
Definitly not a groupy as this person has taken some indignant shots at me, probably justified.
We have had some hardball debates.
[link to www.cyberspaceorbit.com] |
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Fareena
User ID: 91356
5/9/2006 3:29 PM
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Intelligent force?
I really like cats |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 9699
5/9/2006 3:30 PM | | Re: Comet Collisions, an email from the edge | Quote |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 1807
5/9/2006 3:31 PM | | Re: Comet Collisions, an email from the edge | Quote |
YOU'RE WELCOME! |
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Anonymous Coward
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5/9/2006 3:34 PM | |
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 74398
5/9/2006 3:41 PM | | Re: Comet Collisions, an email from the edge | Quote |
emperor kenton,
you are probably my favorite poster
tell us if you have any theories on why an external force would want a comet impact here on earth |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 74398
5/9/2006 3:41 PM | | Re: Comet Collisions, an email from the edge | Quote |
correction
you are my favorite poster, behine (EAT). |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 88296
5/9/2006 3:51 PM | | Re: Comet Collisions, an email from the edge | Quote |
>>>"Comet Collisions, an email from the edge"<<<
And why the frick would we care what 'The Edge' (noted drummer of the rock group U2) has to say about the comet??? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 3233
5/9/2006 3:55 PM | | Re: Comet Collisions, an email from the edge | Quote |
The Installation
An Interview with Valery Uvarov.
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Extracted from Nexus Magazine, Volume 10, Number 4 (June-July 2003)
PO Box 30, Mapleton Qld 4560 Australia. editor@nexusmagazine.com
Telephone: +61 (0)7 5442 9280; Fax: +61 (0)7 5442 9381
From our web page at: www.nexusmagazine.com
© by Graham W. Birdsall © 2003
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The following extracts were transcribed from a filmed interview with Valery Uvarov, of Russia's National Security Academy, conducted by Graham W. Birdsall, Editor of the UK-based UFO Magazine. The interview took place at the 12th International UFO Congress Convention and Film Festival, held February 2-8, 2003, in Laughlin, Nevada, USA. Please note that Graham Birdsall in now deceased and UFO Magazine has closed.
Graham Birdsall (GB): What is your official title?
Valery Uvarov (VU): I am head of the Department of UFO Research, Science and Technical, National Security Academy, based in St Petersburg, Russia.
GB: This, then, is an official Russian government agency?
VU: Absolutely. I am answerable to two people above me. They are answerable to the next person above them, who is our President [Putin].
GB: What exactly is your remit?
VU: Our research efforts are divided into two parts. Firstly, we are constantly analysing data coming in from all over the world. We then extract what we consider to be the most interesting information through our database-which is yellow, which is red. This, then, is released to various departments throughout Russia. The other aspect of our research stemmed from asking the question: do UFOs exist or not? For sure, we know they exist, but what is behind their activity, their interest? This is the most important issue for us, and what we mostly focus our investigations on.
GB: There is active co-operation between NASA and Russian aerospace officials at a technical, scientific and maybe even military level. Do you liaise or have ties with organisations similar to your own overseas?
VU: I can tell you, truthfully, that just a couple of days before I flew to the United States I had a meeting with my ... let's say, my bosses. And they said they are very interested in co-operating with other organisations ... let's say, our friends in the West. So, I can tell you that this particular mission is at the starting point. I am charged with finding the right people. When this is done, and the next stage is activated, we can make some concrete steps.
GB: Earlier, off camera, you alluded to some important developments concerning the Tunguska explosion of 1908. For the record, can you tell us why you now believe you know the cause?
VU: It is not so much a case of belief; we know what caused it. It was a meteor, but a meteor that was destroyed by ... let's say, a missile. The missile was generated by a material installation. We don't know who constructed it, but it was built long, long ago and is situated in Siberia, several hundred kilometres north of Tunguska. I can tell you that our investigation has revealed more than one explosion at Tunguska. Let me share something with you. The last time that this installation shot down a meteor was on 24/25 September last year. The Americans ... they have three bases ... they, too, noticed this explosion. [Editor's Ref: See New Scientist vol 178 issue 2399 - 14 June 2003]
GB: Forgive me, but some will say this sounds like science fiction.
VU: Graham, you know that when we talk about the truths that lie behind this subject, we only do so with those who have an understanding of the responsibility that goes with it. And you know that we are dealing with a technology much further ahead of our own-one capable of doing things that we cannot.
GB: Can you be more specific about the location of this installation?
VU: Look for the site of the Tunguska explosion. To the southeast is the very large and famous Lake Baikal. Beyond that, to the north, is a huge and barren territory covering 100,000 kilometres. Hardly anyone lives there. There are no towns or cities. Here is where we located the installation ...
GB: Are you aware of strange stories or rumours concerning the so-called "Planet X"? If some new and heavenly body had entered our solar system, astronomers would surely detect it and declare its presence.
VU: I cannot speak for astronomers in the West, but astronomers within our Academy tell us we have nothing to fear. I have heard people talk about a rotation figure of 3,600 years for this planet, which is in a similar orbit to that of the Earth but behind the Sun. We know that this planet and the installation in Siberia are closely connected. Let me say that we believe that this installation is keeping that planet in a stable orbit. If that planet were to move, to shift orbit, the entire solar system would become unstable. Those of us in the Academy are sure that this planet is inhabited, and that this installation is designed to protect them and us. We are sure that nothing dangerous will happen. Everything is under control.
Our investigations have shown that the Earth has a pulse-a finely tuned frequency that affects everything, every living thing. Some 12,500 years ago, this pulse corresponded to 360 days of the year-study the old Egyptian calendar-but then an asteroid struck the Earth. We believe the orbit of the Earth was altered, artificially, to compensate for this. Our planet moved further away from the Sun, to a frequency pulse of 365.
This has taught us to believe that we have friends-friends who watch over us, silently. They did not allow then, nor will they allow now, any planet, comet or asteroid to strike and destroy the Earth. This, for us, is now absolutely clear.
Those who wish to weaponise space ... to tell you the truth, all of us involved in this project feel a pain in our hearts. Here we all are, investigating this installation and some other stuff, material stuff, none of which was constructed by Russians or Americans but by someone else, someone from outer space. It saddens us when we think what could happen if weapons are put into space.
Let me speak frankly. This installation has a power system, an energy source. We have located this. It was during the conflict in the former Yugoslavia that we first noticed an increase in the output of that energy. For us, it was incredible, but we now know that this installation reacts to social upheaval and conflict. Part of our investigation involved searching through ancient records and archives, and then we came across the Echutin Apposs Alanhor [sic] texts. We call them the Alanhor, and they are at least 4,000 years old. They describe the installation, in scientific terms, as to what was taking place there. It's amazing.
I have visited the area twice. The first time our equipment detected strong levels of radiation. I have to tell you, it was pretty dangerous; we couldn't hide from it. The few local inhabitants of the area knew of the installation, of course, and they described it to us. They describe metal-like structures and drew them for us. We plotted everything on a map. But these people, their families, the animals, they were suffering from radiation sickness.
The radiation levels have been continuously monitored for the past six years, and now everyone-including the animals-has left the forest. Let me tell you something about the Tunguska explosion-something that has never been spoken of before. Two months before the explosion, every living animal fled the region. It was as if the installation had powered up to deal with the asteroid. With that came an increase in radiation. The same thing is happening now, today.
GB: Are there any plans to mount another expedition to the area and to visit the installation?
VU: The radiation is a factor but, yes, another expedition is planned for later this year. Look, we want to be open and honest about this. We welcome international participation, but the people we invite must be responsible in the eyes of the world. We want people who are honest, open-minded and transparent, who are eager and willing to co-operate and exchange and then disseminate the scientific data. I invite you, Graham, to come to Russia and visit the installation as an observer.
GB: I would be honoured. Thank you.
VU: You can tell people that we, Russia, have decided that it is time that other people should know about this, and not just a few.
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CS
User ID: 91278
5/9/2006 3:58 PM | | Re: Comet Collisions, an email from the edge | Quote |
74398....you didn't read the post...the "intelligent force" is redirecting the collision trajectory of incoming objects using deflector shields.
Kent, so we should relax and not be concerned about this debris cloud that is about to cross our path? |
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Mathmatician
User ID: 91377
5/9/2006 4:35 PM | | Re: Comet Collisions, an email from the edge | Quote |
Kent, so we should relax and not be concerned about this debris cloud that is about to cross our path?
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I would like to take a crack at what is being implied here, if I may.
a) There are unknown forces that are workinig with earth, in order to protect if.(From the Russian scientists point of view)
b) This protection is somehow related to a intelligently inhabited planetary object(planet x) that is working in conjunction with and on behalf of the earth inhabitants, to protect earth.
I would like to add a little simple reasoning here to this approaching senario: It would seem that the protection being offered would be from threats both "Foreign and domestic" to quote a known phrase. Therefore, if there are factions on earth that are planing to destroy the earth through nuclear war and what not, It would not be intirely unreasonable to assume that perhaps allowing, or even guiding certain fragments of a known comet could serve as perhaps a warning shot, to protect the earth.
Certainly this warning shot would send a very strong message to the Powers that be to stop the folly.
It would also carry the promise through its periodicity that this is indeed not the end, nor the kill shot but a prelude.
This would serve to protect the earth from domestic destruction, right?
Am I close? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 91361
5/9/2006 5:05 PM | | Re: Comet Collisions, an email from the edge | Quote |
I wish the impacts would happen. There's too many people and there's too much tyranny. It would take the tyranny away. I think these aliens ARE the tyrants and part of the problem. They have been meddling with humanity since day one. Fuck them. |
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Dilatoriness
User ID: 51202
5/9/2006 5:15 PM | | Re: Comet Collisions, an email from the edge | Quote |
Do a search for "ufo destroys meteorite before it hits".
I am here to challenge your indoctrinated false belief that flaming queens don't use shovels ... |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 2168
5/9/2006 5:18 PM | | Re: Comet Collisions, an email from the edge | Quote |
Stargate SG1.
Particularly the transition episodes
in the Antarctic which opened the
show to develop the Stargate Atlantis
show. |
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Emperor Kenton
User ID: 87536
5/9/2006 5:33 PM
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Mathmatician
User ID: 91403
5/9/2006 5:33 PM | | Re: Comet Collisions, an email from the edge | Quote |
Further more, inlight of an overwhelming casualty count and on behalf of the inhabitants of earth they(intelligent forces) would issue a warning.
The warning, however, would come through descret numerology posted by known and credited agency's, and a not so descret liason who would sound the alarm.
This liason would have certain credibility and a certain amount of inside noteriety in certain known circles, thereby allowing the procurement of certain media venues.
The liason could then use an organization like,....say,..exopolitics by conviniently changing the web site tittle to www.savemanylives.com.
Am I close? |
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Mathmatician
User ID: 91403
5/9/2006 5:35 PM | | Re: Comet Collisions, an email from the edge | Quote |
Cool Kent, did you see the synchronisity of our post's. 5.11x3 |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 91223
5/9/2006 5:37 PM | | Re: Comet Collisions, an email from the edge | Quote |
Kent, what was the Cymec's name that flew the asteroid in Dune: The Machine Crusade? Your post made me think of her and now I can't remember. It's making me crazy!
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Mathmatician
User ID: 91403
5/9/2006 5:48 PM | | Re: Comet Collisions, an email from the edge | Quote |
In light of whats not being said by MS agency's, I would have to say that the above mentioned scenario is indeed reasonable. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 22792
5/9/2006 6:22 PM | | Re: Comet Collisions, an email from the edge | Quote |
Like farmers protecting their livestock from a hail storm. Except we're the cattle. |
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BLUESTAR
User ID: 91353
5/9/2006 7:10 PM | |
idol_harobed
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5/9/2006 7:20 PM
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"Been hearing this too, reports from the edge that declare that deflector shields are part of ancient tech with mention of the Azore region-- underwater.--Kent"
You seem to watch too much Star Trek, Steadman.
I am what I read. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 71338
5/9/2006 7:38 PM | | Re: Comet Collisions, an email from the edge | Quote |
Intelligent source. You mean like God right? |
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Mathmatician
User ID: 91403
5/9/2006 7:40 PM | | Re: Comet Collisions, an email from the edge | Quote |
"Been hearing this too, reports from the edge that declare that deflector shields are part of ancient tech with mention of the Azore region-- underwater.--Kent"
You seem to watch too much Star Trek, Steadman.
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It seems that too many are asking why, without stoping to ponder, WHY NOT.
Could it not also be said that star trek was in a sense, for some, a handy instruction guide at least for minds who asked WHY NOT? Perhaps in preperation for a larger frame work in which to view the world or the larger reality construct? Who can say for sure without falling into the fools trap of claiming that they know it all.
I mean you are here, not on some politically correct website and that IMO speaks volumes to what even you, at least at some level of your awarness, are attracted to. Fringe, science fiction, yes? |
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Emperor Kenton
User ID: 87536
5/9/2006 8:19 PM
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Like anyone else my ideas are shaped by experience--which have been weird enough to plunk me into question-mode.
[link to www.cyberspaceorbit.com] |
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Mathmatician
User ID: 91463
5/9/2006 8:32 PM | | Re: Comet Collisions, an email from the edge | Quote |
Like anyone else my ideas are shaped by experience.
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I agree, the challenge that we are dealing with here however, is not ones ideas or experiences. Rather how we are conditioned to interpret them. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 91353
5/9/2006 8:36 PM | | Re: Comet Collisions, an email from the edge | Quote |
Rather how we are conditioned to interpret them.
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Emperor Kenton
User ID: 87536
5/10/2006 6:00 AM
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Another EMAIL:
5/10/2006 1:01:55 AM Pacific Daylight Time
Dear Sir:
I felt compelled to write after reading some of the comments posted on your site accusing you of sensationalism. Perhaps some of these readers are unaware that tiny amounts of cometary debris have been blamed for the Great Chicago Fire and attending firestorms in nearby states. Imagine a repeat of that event over, say, Texas City. Also, back in 1957, large fireballs generated by small bits of debris from Comet Encke nearly hit a couple of commercial airliners and a naval transport plane over the U.S. Some weeks later an information officer from the Air Force issued a statement suggesting the debris was initially mistaken by some for incoming Soviet missiles. How would the current administration react to such a thing? I am not a scientist, but history tells us that it doesn't take a head-on collision for comets to cause a disaster. If anyone is playing games, then NASA would have to be at the top of the list of suspects. They bombard us with "thief in the night" warnings then publicly sneer when we show legitimate concern. Combined with the poor state of American journalism, we've been left on our own. There are panicky people even in the best of times, but it is always better to turn on the lights. You're doing the right thing.
Best,
A face in the crowd
Austin, TX
[link to www.cyberspaceorbit.com] |
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Dystopian Vagabond
User ID: 91612
5/10/2006 6:03 AM
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Lurking incredulously... |
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Emperor Kenton
User ID: 87536
5/10/2006 6:20 AM
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Reading some of the NASA data is like trying to decode the Emerald Tablets.
Nine fragments on the 11th
[link to neo.jpl.nasa.gov]
3-BD 2006-May-11 21:53 ± 11:11 33.7/0
[link to neo.jpl.nasa.gov]
EMAIL:
5/1/2006 6:04:08 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time
Kent,
Check out the cult numbers below NASA just can not help but use!
11, 33 & that damn tetrahedral 14.7, wow! I wonder if this is doctored or the actual numbers? Maybe the site was hacked (I hope so) or are we really in for a real whacking? No wonder everyone has been seeing 11:11 for the last couple of years. Is this a joke or not? Toss in 21:53 adding up to 11 and we have cult symbolism all over this thing: 21:53 = 2 + 1 + 5 + 3 = 11, talk about tossing us a bone. Thought you might find this interesting/amusing?
Close-Approach Date 2006-May-11 21:53 ± 11:11
Miss Distance Nominal 33.7/0.0867
V relative (km/s) 14.79
N sigma 3
[link to www.cyberspaceorbit.com] |
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