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And I do not know a freaking thing about survival. But all the doom on this site is getting to me. I'm more awake than ever, I see and hear things coming out of peoples mouths and I just wonder WTF are they thinking.

For instance just this morning I was telling my wife that we may be at war with Russia and China by week's end, without hesitation her response was "I don't think that can happen".

I spent the next two hours showing her things and trying to get her to understand if she has to make a choice on who to trust take me over MSM since I have a degree in GLP!!!

I'm in the North Texas area (north DFW) if there are any friendly Texans here from GLP and have some kick ass survival skills or just overly full of DOOM wisdom would pay for the first drink for your time.
 Quoting: Hwy380


She's right....it's not going to happen....not over this.
...a proxy war maybe.....but not WWIII.


OP....get away from GLP.
Take a breather, you are becoming indoctrinated.
 Quoting: Useless Cookie Eater


I have tried a few times, I agree with you though, I almost feel I have to just prepare than shut it off completely. I hope you are right about the proxy war, my gut though is saying this is going to be bad.
 Quoting: Hwy380


Stop letting this place wind you up so much.
Whatever is going to happen will happen....but it won't be a global war.
It's just going to be some kind of proxy war...and the Russians know Obama is the problem....not the USA itself.
They are not stupid.

Also...
Preparing yourself will help much.
It will will give you peace of mind that you ARE covered if anything happens.
At minimum you should have 3 months reserves....3 years is preferable IMHO.

cheers
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howdy neighbor (your handle had me wondering :P)... I would advise you spend your time wisely by drawing closer to the Creator (James 4:8) during this time of the end.

Study the Bible especially in these areas:
- What will happen to the earth?
- Who will survive the coming "great tribulation" spoken of by Jesus at Matt 24:21
- What really is Armageddon? (hint: it's not a nuclear conflagration brought on by men)

God's Kingdom, the subject of the model prayer taught by Jesus long ago (Matt 6:9,10), is a real government that will remove current wicked governments (Dan 2:44). Learn what you and your family must do to become citizens of that government... salvation and taking in knowledge of God go hand in hand (John 17:3).
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Is that your kid eating the pizza?


funny avatar


Good luck to you
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Looks like the pizza is eating her.

lmao
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hugsTexas South 1dpanicit will be ok Doom been predicted for ever just live day to day and have faith hf
 Quoting: Goofy for God


where were we supposed to go anyway ?
messico ?

pray along the lines of Ps 91.
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howdy neighbor (your handle had me wondering :P)... I would advise you spend your time wisely by drawing closer to the Creator (James 4:8) during this time of the end.

Study the Bible especially in these areas:
- What will happen to the earth?
- Who will survive the coming "great tribulation" spoken of by Jesus at Matt 24:21
- What really is Armageddon? (hint: it's not a nuclear conflagration brought on by men)

God's Kingdom, the subject of the model prayer taught by Jesus long ago (Matt 6:9,10), is a real government that will remove current wicked governments (Dan 2:44). Learn what you and your family must do to become citizens of that government... salvation and taking in knowledge of God go hand in hand (John 17:3).
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23801109


Appreciate the grounding advice. Do you or anyone else believe we will be called by God to be soldiers at the end or is that for the angels only?
thiswayorthatway
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hugsTexas South 1dpanicit will be ok Doom been predicted for ever just live day to day and have faith hf
 Quoting: Goofy for God


where were we supposed to go anyway ?
messico ?

pray along the lines of Ps 91.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45114646


Amen to that prayer.

Psalm 91

1 Whoever dwells in the shelter of the Most High
will rest in the shadow of the Almighty.[a]
2 I will say of the Lord, “He is my refuge and my fortress,
my God, in whom I trust.”
3 Surely he will save you
from the fowler’s snare
and from the deadly pestilence.
4 He will cover you with his feathers,
and under his wings you will find refuge;
his faithfulness will be your shield and rampart.
5 You will not fear the terror of night,
nor the arrow that flies by day,
6 nor the pestilence that stalks in the darkness,
nor the plague that destroys at midday.
7 A thousand may fall at your side,
ten thousand at your right hand,
but it will not come near you.
8 You will only observe with your eyes
and see the punishment of the wicked.
9 If you say, “The Lord is my refuge,”
and you make the Most High your dwelling,
10 no harm will overtake you,
no disaster will come near your tent.
11 For he will command his angels concerning you
to guard you in all your ways;
12 they will lift you up in their hands,
so that you will not strike your foot against a stone.
13 You will tread on the lion and the cobra;
you will trample the great lion and the serpent.
14 “Because he loves me,” says the Lord, “I will rescue him;
I will protect him, for he acknowledges my name.
15 He will call on me, and I will answer him;
I will be with him in trouble,
I will deliver him and honor him.
16 With long life I will satisfy him
and show him my salvation.”
thiswayorthatway
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OP how long have you been viewing GLP???
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OP how long have you been viewing GLP???
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


Just after Sandy Hook that's where it all started.
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True, but a prepared one none the less.
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what the heck do you think 700 worth of preps will get you?

I am being critical, but I'm 100% serious.

you need learned and practiced skills. You need to be minimalist camping and taking actual training courses that are 1-2 weeks long at a time, so you actually used and learn the skills.

get a couple of good local plant life books with GOOD color photos and start learning your land. keep going camping, taking less and less gear until you can go for 2 weeks without any gear at all, or at the bare minimum, a good knife.
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OP how long have you been viewing GLP???
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


Just after Sandy Hook that's where it all started.
 Quoting: Hwy380


Gotcha... I think it's smart to prepare and have supplies at home for you and your family....

Just always remember the GLP disclaimer and the fact that 99.99% of the 'doom' predictions/claims never materialize or play out the way that people want to believe.... It's easy to be influenced by the types of things that are posted here and we've all experienced this at one time or another. Your family may not echo the same sentiments as the types of individuals who frequent this site - but that's not necessarily a bad thing in many cases....
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howdy neighbor (your handle had me wondering :P)... I would advise you spend your time wisely by drawing closer to the Creator (James 4:8) during this time of the end.

Study the Bible especially in these areas:
- What will happen to the earth?
- Who will survive the coming "great tribulation" spoken of by Jesus at Matt 24:21
- What really is Armageddon? (hint: it's not a nuclear conflagration brought on by men)

God's Kingdom, the subject of the model prayer taught by Jesus long ago (Matt 6:9,10), is a real government that will remove current wicked governments (Dan 2:44). Learn what you and your family must do to become citizens of that government... salvation and taking in knowledge of God go hand in hand (John 17:3).
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23801109


Appreciate the grounding advice. Do you or anyone else believe we will be called by God to be soldiers at the end or is that for the angels only?
 Quoting: Hwy380


Regarding being soldiers, can only tell you that what I've learned is: The Bible teaches that Christians aren't to take up weapons "for all those who take the sword will perish by the sword" (Matt 26:52).

And, for all who will surely ridicule that stance: No, I'm not advocating abandoning your family to lawless people; of course you should be smart about taking basic precautions and doing whatever you can to protect them/yourself. Nobody knows for sure how things will play out during this "great tribulation" period. Become detached to material things including your home, etc. - your life will be way more important. And, even if you should die (likely that a lot of people will), there's a resurrection hope. That's why I say, build your faith and strengthen that of your family. It's because of having such strong faith many early Christians were integrity keepers and fearless in the face of death.
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And I do not know a freaking thing about survival. But all the doom on this site is getting to me. I'm more awake than ever, I see and hear things coming out of peoples mouths and I just wonder WTF are they thinking.

For instance just this morning I was telling my wife that we may be at war with Russia and China by week's end, without hesitation her response was "I don't think that can happen".

I spent the next two hours showing her things and trying to get her to understand if she has to make a choice on who to trust take me over MSM since I have a degree in GLP!!!

I'm in the North Texas area (north DFW) if there are any friendly Texans here from GLP and have some kick ass survival skills or just overly full of DOOM wisdom would pay for the first drink for your time.
 Quoting: Hwy380


A link for you OP! Downloads and pdf's (a lot of them!!!!)

[link to www.truthistreason.net]

Hope you find them informing! bbuds
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That's 1% of what you should be spending.
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what the heck do you think 700 worth of preps will get you?

I am being critical, but I'm 100% serious.

you need learned and practiced skills. You need to be minimalist camping and taking actual training courses that are 1-2 weeks long at a time, so you actually used and learn the skills.


get a couple of good local plant life books with GOOD color photos and start learning your land. keep going camping, taking less and less gear until you can go for 2 weeks without any gear at all, or at the bare minimum, a good knife.
 Quoting: ifSHTF


If you are planning living in the woods in a tent you are going to be far worse off.
You are a much easier target....including being a target for a FEMA camp roundup if it ever goes that way.
The homeless, vagrants and squatters will be the first they go after.

...if it ever gets to that point.
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IF..we get nuked..make sure u can open a sewer..crowbar..or whatever..may give us some extra time
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what the heck do you think 700 worth of preps will get you?

I am being critical, but I'm 100% serious.

you need learned and practiced skills. You need to be minimalist camping and taking actual training courses that are 1-2 weeks long at a time, so you actually used and learn the skills.

get a couple of good local plant life books with GOOD color photos and start learning your land. keep going camping, taking less and less gear until you can go for 2 weeks without any gear at all, or at the bare minimum, a good knife.
 Quoting: ifSHTF


Agree. At least your trying. Get a weapon. Or find BIG friends with them. Oh, buy TP too. Everyone seems to forget this.
Extreme Sarcasm is my Forte, Realism my Job. Check Yo Self before YO Wreck Yourself.
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OP, the best survival skill is the ability to improvise!

After that it's a good knife/machete, A fire starter, plastic tarp, and cordage, cordage cordage! (fishing line, rope, cloths line, twine, you name it).

A copy of Carla Emerys Encyclopedia of Country Living doesn't hurt either.
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OOPS! I forgot...and a metal pot to boil water in!!!
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Greetings:

For Once ... Lets Spare The "Christ Chrunchie/Religious Crap" ... & Get More "Practical" ... Or As Said There ... More ... "Down To Earth" ... Though In This Case ... You Might Say ... More ... Down To Earth ... Looking Closely At The Goings On ... Of Terra/Earth ... Through The Eyes & Minds Of Extraterrestrial Beings !!

Let's Now Take A Different Approach ... By Taking Some Advice From This "ET" ... Who Has Seen & Who Is "Involved" With The Forthcoming Changes ... To Terra/Earth, Sol #3, Saros & Other "Names" ... Given To That Living Sphere !!

If You Wish/Desire To Spend Your Monies On Survival Gear, Foods, Books, Ect. ... That Is Your Choice !! ... We Won't Stop You !!

However ... Consider & Understand ...

... That The Whole Of The Surface Of The Planet Will Be Rearranged !! ... There Will Be No Place To Go ... No Place To Hide ... No Place To Run !!

Each & Every Area/Vicinity ... Will Have It's Own Difficulties ... It's Own Problems ... It's Own Dangers ... No More ... No Less ... Then Any Others !!

Suffice To Say ... If You Are On The Surface ... You Are Dead ... When The Main Changes Occur !!

IF ... By Some "Miracle" (We Hesitate To Use The Term ... As There Is So Much "Religious Crap" Put/Added To This !!) ... You Survive All The Uphevals, Volcanic Eruptions, Flooding/Tsunami(s), Hurricanes ... IF You Are "LUCKEY" ??? ... Then ... Will Come The Freezing !!

After The Volcanos Cool ... (Ancient/Old Ones Awaken/Re-Activate & New Ones Spring Up All Over !!) ... After They Have Released Their Energies ... Blowing Dirt, Dirt Particulates Into The Atmosphere ... Then Will Come The "Flash Freezing" ... Of Which Surface Temperatures Will Plummet ... Will Drop To Hundreds Of Degrees Below O ... More To The Temperature Of Space !!

**Unlike The Hollywood Fiction Of ... The Movie ... The Day After Tomorrow ... You Will Not Have Minutes To Run To Shelter ... To Excape The Freezing Cold ... You Will Be Frozen Stiff ... INSTANTLY !!! ... And It Won't Be That ... "Time Delayed" For Hollywood Drama/Emotional Response Either !! ... In Effect ... You Will Become A Popsicle (Or A Snow/Ice Person) ... Of A Unique Flavor !!

As To The Planet Itself ... The Surface Of Terra/Earth Will Be Dark ... Cold ... Icy & Snow Miles Think ... & Forboding !! ... Little Of The Energies/Radiations Of The Planet Will Be Able To Interact ... To Create The Heat/Light ... & The Planet Will Simply Hover/Float In Space ... Not Turning ... Not Revolving ... It's Inner Furnace In A State Of Temporary Deactivation/Reajustment/Flux !!

Those Who Have Stolen Funds/Monies ... Diverted Them To Create Underground Cities ... Places For Themselves & Selected Ones ... Shelters For The Termed "Elite" ... These Will Fail ... After Magnitude 15 + Earthquakes Destroy These Places ... Those Below Who Are In These Shelters ... Dead Or Buried Alive ... Worse Then Dead !!

There Are Only (2) Options For Survival ... To Be With Plantary Neighbors Who Have Gone Through These Changes ... & Know How To Prepare !! ... Or ... To Leave The Planet ... While It Is Being Changed/Rearranged ... To Go Elsewhere To Live ... In Which New Bodies/Forms Will Be Required !!

Understand ... No Matter How Your Energies Depart Those Temporary Terrestrial Bodies/Units (Which Have Been Discontinued !!) ... You Will Have To Do This Anyway ... As The Living Planet Itself Is Changing ... It's Energies Speeding Up ... & The Incoming Energies Are Of A Higher Vibration ... A Higher Frequency/Radiation ... Which The 3rd Density Bodies Are Not Designed For !!

New Bodies Are Needed ... Are Created ... Are Being Created ... & Will Be Provided ... Of Which Many Choices Will Be & Are Available !!

That's A Short Rundown Of Things About To Go On ... Things That Are About To Commence !! ... There Is Of Course Much Much More !! ... Many More Things That Will Happen ... That Will Occur ... Suffice To Say ... Terra/Earth Needs A Cleansing ... A Bath ... Then It Needs To Rest ... & All These Things & More Will Take Place !!

Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG
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good luck on your round. how long are you planning to go for? i just started a short round a few days ago.
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Not to be a negative Nancy , buuuut with 300 million starving animals your goodie bag won't last long. Worst case scenario your kids will work in Russia and China slave camps . But I wish not.
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what the heck do you think 700 worth of preps will get you?

I am being critical, but I'm 100% serious.

you need learned and practiced skills. You need to be minimalist camping and taking actual training courses that are 1-2 weeks long at a time, so you actually used and learn the skills.

get a couple of good local plant life books with GOOD color photos and start learning your land. keep going camping, taking less and less gear until you can go for 2 weeks without any gear at all, or at the bare minimum, a good knife.
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great advice, i will have to do some research on the classes in my area
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good luck on your round. how long are you planning to go for? i just started a short round a few days ago.
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40 days
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I spent that much on rock carving equipment.
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Greetings:

For Once ... Lets Spare The "Christ Chrunchie/Religious Crap" ... & Get More "Practical" ... Or As Said There ... More ... "Down To Earth" ... Though In This Case ... You Might Say ... More ... Down To Earth ... Looking Closely At The Goings On ... Of Terra/Earth ... Through The Eyes & Minds Of Extraterrestrial Beings !!

Let's Now Take A Different Approach ... By Taking Some Advice From This "ET" ... Who Has Seen & Who Is "Involved" With The Forthcoming Changes ... To Terra/Earth, Sol #3, Saros & Other "Names" ... Given To That Living Sphere !!

If You Wish/Desire To Spend Your Monies On Survival Gear, Foods, Books, Ect. ... That Is Your Choice !! ... We Won't Stop You !!

However ... Consider & Understand ...

... That The Whole Of The Surface Of The Planet Will Be Rearranged !! ... There Will Be No Place To Go ... No Place To Hide ... No Place To Run !!

Each & Every Area/Vicinity ... Will Have It's Own Difficulties ... It's Own Problems ... It's Own Dangers ... No More ... No Less ... Then Any Others !!

Suffice To Say ... If You Are On The Surface ... You Are Dead ... When The Main Changes Occur !!

IF ... By Some "Miracle" (We Hesitate To Use The Term ... As There Is So Much "Religious Crap" Put/Added To This !!) ... You Survive All The Uphevals, Volcanic Eruptions, Flooding/Tsunami(s), Hurricanes ... IF You Are "LUCKEY" ??? ... Then ... Will Come The Freezing !!

After The Volcanos Cool ... (Ancient/Old Ones Awaken/Re-Activate & New Ones Spring Up All Over !!) ... After They Have Released Their Energies ... Blowing Dirt, Dirt Particulates Into The Atmosphere ... Then Will Come The "Flash Freezing" ... Of Which Surface Temperatures Will Plummet ... Will Drop To Hundreds Of Degrees Below O ... More To The Temperature Of Space !!

**Unlike The Hollywood Fiction Of ... The Movie ... The Day After Tomorrow ... You Will Not Have Minutes To Run To Shelter ... To Excape The Freezing Cold ... You Will Be Frozen Stiff ... INSTANTLY !!! ... And It Won't Be That ... "Time Delayed" For Hollywood Drama/Emotional Response Either !! ... In Effect ... You Will Become A Popsicle (Or A Snow/Ice Person) ... Of A Unique Flavor !!

As To The Planet Itself ... The Surface Of Terra/Earth Will Be Dark ... Cold ... Icy & Snow Miles Think ... & Forboding !! ... Little Of The Energies/Radiations Of The Planet Will Be Able To Interact ... To Create The Heat/Light ... & The Planet Will Simply Hover/Float In Space ... Not Turning ... Not Revolving ... It's Inner Furnace In A State Of Temporary Deactivation/Reajustment/Flux !!

Those Who Have Stolen Funds/Monies ... Diverted Them To Create Underground Cities ... Places For Themselves & Selected Ones ... Shelters For The Termed "Elite" ... These Will Fail ... After Magnitude 15 + Earthquakes Destroy These Places ... Those Below Who Are In These Shelters ... Dead Or Buried Alive ... Worse Then Dead !!

There Are Only (2) Options For Survival ... To Be With Plantary Neighbors Who Have Gone Through These Changes ... & Know How To Prepare !! ... Or ... To Leave The Planet ... While It Is Being Changed/Rearranged ... To Go Elsewhere To Live ... In Which New Bodies/Forms Will Be Required !!

Understand ... No Matter How Your Energies Depart Those Temporary Terrestrial Bodies/Units (Which Have Been Discontinued !!) ... You Will Have To Do This Anyway ... As The Living Planet Itself Is Changing ... It's Energies Speeding Up ... & The Incoming Energies Are Of A Higher Vibration ... A Higher Frequency/Radiation ... Which The 3rd Density Bodies Are Not Designed For !!

New Bodies Are Needed ... Are Created ... Are Being Created ... & Will Be Provided ... Of Which Many Choices Will Be & Are Available !!

That's A Short Rundown Of Things About To Go On ... Things That Are About To Commence !! ... There Is Of Course Much Much More !! ... Many More Things That Will Happen ... That Will Occur ... Suffice To Say ... Terra/Earth Needs A Cleansing ... A Bath ... Then It Needs To Rest ... & All These Things & More Will Take Place !!

Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG
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okay this will require some decoding I guess
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And I do not know a freaking thing about survival. But all the doom on this site is getting to me. I'm more awake than ever, I see and hear things coming out of peoples mouths and I just wonder WTF are they thinking.

For instance just this morning I was telling my wife that we may be at war with Russia and China by week's end, without hesitation her response was "I don't think that can happen".

I spent the next two hours showing her things and trying to get her to understand if she has to make a choice on who to trust take me over MSM since I have a degree in GLP!!!

I'm in the North Texas area (north DFW) if there are any friendly Texans here from GLP and have some kick ass survival skills or just overly full of DOOM wisdom would pay for the first drink for your time.
 Quoting: Hwy380


A link for you OP! Downloads and pdf's (a lot of them!!!!)

[link to www.truthistreason.net]

Hope you find them informing! bbuds
 Quoting: wait....what?


good stuff thank you
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