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Illuminati Satanism in music goes way beyond what I first thought...

 
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The applications of music that humans have thusfar harnessed are pretty low-tech, if you think about it. On the evolutionary scale of music, we're still banging sticks on shells.
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While I agree there's a LOT more to explore and develop within music, that is slightly overstating it - don't think you know about ALL music that humanity has ever experimented with.
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Wow, I never thought Winger was satanic, but you hit the nail on the head!
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Lol nice try. Both bands originate from my side of the pond.
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Pearl Jam?
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Google Jonathan Croom.
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Do the math.
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The applications of music that humans have thusfar harnessed are pretty low-tech, if you think about it. On the evolutionary scale of music, we're still banging sticks on shells.
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While I agree there's a LOT more to explore and develop within music, that is slightly overstating it - don't think you know about ALL music that humanity has ever experimented with.
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I'm not referring to music notes or arrangements... I'm talking about music being a creative force, think of Tolkien's Silmarillion. That's what I'm talking about. Not music in terms of song and beat, but music as a primordial, creative force.

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There's a lot of merit to what you're saying, but you're also touching on a lot of other subjects that bears mentioning.

First, you're sort of equating Luciferian with Satanic. It's not the same, and while I don't know what mystery bands you're referring to, the one-eye, triangles, etc is not Satanic imagery. It is Freemasonry, which is rooted in Hermeticism and Gnosticism. AKA Luciferianism.

Secondly, you have to take a step back and realize that music, as a whole, as a concept, as a thing is far greater and far older and more influential than any one person, band, etc. No one on Earth 'invented' music, no one discovered it. It was there before we came around and will be here after we're gone. Music is not good or bad, but it can be used for honorable and dishonorable ends.

It is an ancient thing, with metaphysical roots and unknown ends. Some posit it is more like a language, a highly evolved method of communication. The applications of music that humans have thusfar harnessed are pretty low-tech, if you think about it. On the evolutionary scale of music, we're still banging sticks on shells.

Either way, your exploration is intriguing, but there's so much more to cover.

-N-
 Quoting: The Norwalk Avenger


There's a lot of merit to what you're saying, but you're also touching on a lot of other subjects that bears mentioning.

First, you're sort of equating Luciferian with Satanic. It's not the same, and while I don't know what mystery bands you're referring to, the one-eye, triangles, etc is not Satanic imagery. It is Freemasonry, which is rooted in Hermeticism and Gnosticism. AKA Luciferianism.

Secondly, you have to take a step back and realize that music, as a whole, as a concept, as a thing is far greater and far older and more influential than any one person, band, etc. No one on Earth 'invented' music, no one discovered it. It was there before we came around and will be here after we're gone. Music is not good or bad, but it can be used for honorable and dishonorable ends.

It is an ancient thing, with metaphysical roots and unknown ends. Some posit it is more like a language, a highly evolved method of communication. The applications of music that humans have thusfar harnessed are pretty low-tech, if you think about it. On the evolutionary scale of music, we're still banging sticks on shells.

Either way, your exploration is intriguing, but there's so much more to cover.

-N-
 Quoting: The Norwalk Avenger


Luciferianism is the worship of self. No God but yourself. However. That concept goes just as far back as freemasonry and the Egyptian cults. It speak of a time when the fallen angel and his army mated with the daughters of men. Teachings them magic sorcery and divination. It all comes back to the fall of Lucifer. The OTO contacting their higher self in reality their negative lowest self. Ask me trust me I know. I was their when it all first happened. .
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Also, the only way you can succeed inthe music industry or Hollywood is by selling yourself. Period.
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They are waiting for the arrival of Apollyon or Abaddon the destroyer angel It is interesting because revelation is true. So this time, the destroyer will go after the woman=eve the female version of her brother/mate other Christ. And guess who wins.,,
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So.., if you think these people in power are not dabbling in the dark arts .., well you are very naive. They know just as we know who we are and who is our chief. Mine is the winning team. Why would anyone settle for less? Very odd to say the least. Team eve 11.
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Wow, I never thought Winger was satanic, but you hit the nail on the head!
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Lol nice try. Both bands originate from my side of the pond.
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U2
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Some interesting artists / songs there that I hadn't contemplated before. Surprised that Peter Gabriel's there, pic says it all though.
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All fans of Aleister Crowley, and hung out with Jimmy Saville who used to tour with them and introduce them on stage. Dark stuff indeed.
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I didn't know who Jimmy Saville was.. this link tells more

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

(snip) "A year after his death, hundreds of allegations of child sex abuse and rape became public, leading the police to believe that Savile was a predatory sex offender, and may have been one of Britain's most prolific sexual offenders."

Satanism and Pedophilia go together.
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Quite surprising that some folk still don't know about this guy. Prior to the revelations of the last year it's easy to figure out why you may not have heard of him over there though I guess, but since the last year the stuff that has come to light, and how deep this particular rabbit hole appear to goes, where it goes and the people connected with this is about as big a subject matter as you will ever find on GLP. For some clues, look at who he was big friends with in the last 30 years. It's kind of tipped things on their head in this country, and I think folk here enmasse are looking at the world in a very different light. Even the sheeple. Quite a few threads on here about him and is connections. Friends in high places and all that.
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Wow, I never thought Winger was satanic, but you hit the nail on the head!
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Lol nice try. Both bands originate from my side of the pond.
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U2 and Duran Duran?
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There's a lot of merit to what you're saying, but you're also touching on a lot of other subjects that bears mentioning.

First, you're sort of equating Luciferian with Satanic. It's not the same, and while I don't know what mystery bands you're referring to, the one-eye, triangles, etc is not Satanic imagery. It is Freemasonry, which is rooted in Hermeticism and Gnosticism. AKA Luciferianism.

Secondly, you have to take a step back and realize that music, as a whole, as a concept, as a thing is far greater and far older and more influential than any one person, band, etc. No one on Earth 'invented' music, no one discovered it. It was there before we came around and will be here after we're gone. Music is not good or bad, but it can be used for honorable and dishonorable ends.

It is an ancient thing, with metaphysical roots and unknown ends. Some posit it is more like a language, a highly evolved method of communication. The applications of music that humans have thusfar harnessed are pretty low-tech, if you think about it. On the evolutionary scale of music, we're still banging sticks on shells.

Either way, your exploration is intriguing, but there's so much more to cover.

-N-
 Quoting: The Norwalk Avenger


Insightful post, thanks.

Music has probably been my main love in life, and does things to me that absolutely nothing else can, quite astonishing how powerful it really is.

That said it's kinda starting to feel that there is some dark stuff going on in some of the least darkest areas where you wouldn't expect to find dark stuff, be it the masonic stuff or be it full on satanic stuff.

People have mentioned some obvious names in the thread Black Sabbath, Iron Maiden etc. where you'd expect to see this stuff, I'm definitely talking about the least in your face stuff from artists that you might not expect.

I am going to start looking and listening to all the bands / artists I know and love down the years with a new set of eyes and ears I think. As per my OP, I think a great deal of it isn't even the artist themselves in some cases but is Mr Record Company paying homage to their master.
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Check out Katy Perry's "E.T." (the song and the video). It's basically a love song to Satan.
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earth wind and fire? beatles?
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OP, you ought to be a politician.
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So.., if you think these people in power are not dabbling in the dark arts .., well you are very naive. They know just as we know who we are and who is our chief. Mine is the winning team. Why would anyone settle for less? Very odd to say the least. Team eve 11.
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Oh, I'm sure many probably are. I'm also fairly sure that many are not. At least knowingly.
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Wow, I never thought Winger was satanic, but you hit the nail on the head!
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Lol nice try. Both bands originate from my side of the pond.
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U2 and Duran Duran?
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Both the bands I refer to have already been named earlier on in a single post on the thread.
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Not just music industry but movie industry, model industry and politics...
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OP, you ought to be a politician.
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Haha, trying to say I'm being diplomatic? There are good reasons. You definitely have to be careful of how specific and explicit you are when waving your fingers around in this day and age is all I can say to that.
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There's a lot of merit to what you're saying, but you're also touching on a lot of other subjects that bears mentioning.

First, you're sort of equating Luciferian with Satanic. It's not the same, and while I don't know what mystery bands you're referring to, the one-eye, triangles, etc is not Satanic imagery. It is Freemasonry, which is rooted in Hermeticism and Gnosticism. AKA Luciferianism.

Secondly, you have to take a step back and realize that music, as a whole, as a concept, as a thing is far greater and far older and more influential than any one person, band, etc. No one on Earth 'invented' music, no one discovered it. It was there before we came around and will be here after we're gone. Music is not good or bad, but it can be used for honorable and dishonorable ends.

even deeper than that, music is a spirit. i believe it is the one thing hat belongs in heaven that God alllowed to transdescend to earth. God is serenaded continuously by angels, after all. and satan's claim to fame was that he had an entire orchestra in his mouth, to serenade a nd glorify God. this shit goes deeper than we shheple have contemplated. but the spirit senses shadows moving in the murky air. we know it, but dont KNOW it.
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even deeper than that, music is a spirit. i believe it is the one thing hat belongs in heaven that God alllowed to transdescend to earth. God is serenaded continuously by angels, after all. and satan's claim to fame was that he had an entire orchestra in his mouth, to serenade a nd glorify God. this shit goes deeper than we shheple have contemplated. but the spirit senses shadows moving in the murky air. we know it, but dont KNOW it.
 Quoting: The Norwalk Avenger


Yeah, I've always looked at it as one of the greatest gifts we were given. Whoever actually gave it to us. I don't pretend to know who that was, but my heart tells me who. Music to me, and no doubt many others is more than something to just tap your feet to. It hits you in places you didn't know you had and does stuff to you that nothing else can. It's magical and mystical, and definitely in good and bad ways.
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Wow, I never thought Winger was satanic, but you hit the nail on the head!
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Lol nice try. Both bands originate from my side of the pond.
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U2 and Duran Duran?
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Both the bands I refer to have already been named earlier on in a single post on the thread.
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If it's black sabbath and led zeppelin, then how on earth could you ever doubt that was nothing but luciferism promotion.

First band I thought of was pink floyd, I always get the feeling they know something about what going on, especially the song The wall, which to me is about the manipulation/molding of children in our schools by tptb.
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Lol nice try. Both bands originate from my side of the pond.
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U2 and Duran Duran?
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Both the bands I refer to have already been named earlier on in a single post on the thread.
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If it's black sabbath and led zeppelin, then how on earth could you ever doubt that was nothing but luciferism promotion.

First band I thought of was pink floyd, I always get the feeling they know something about what going on, especially the song The wall, which to me is about the manipulation/molding of children in our schools by tptb.
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I've already said one band is from the UK but not England (there is actually an important difference), and the other band is not from the UK, but a country near the UK which many folk don't actually realise is not part of the UK.

If you go back and (re-)read my posts you will see I'm clearly not referring to overtly obvious artists such as Black Sabbath and Led Zeppelin. I'm not even really referring to the artists in and of themselves if you read carefully. I'm referring to their masters.
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Good thread, OP. Well handled, I might say too.

I'm in marketing like you and the subliminal thing is the bread and butter. I generally try to use positive, uplifting imagery to achieve ends, but sometimes feel a little guilty about using stuff the average person is unaware of.

Think about it this way. If they want to go the Lucifer track, they will pull in people with the positive uplifting stuff. This attracts people to the music, whilst sewn into it, is the darker agenda. Things shown and done a certain way... early symbolism used in innocent (deniable) ways - like, um - Disneyland or Wizard of Oz.

New age sentiments planted in the fertile ground of youthful minds grow into flowers of rebellion against the old ways. Each newer generation is drawn deeper into the impending chaos, while the elder ones wonder what happened to their world.

Small steps at first, then years later they start to get really blatant with an already conditioned (over a couple generations) population. Miley, we see you. Or rather, your alter.

They ain't famous unless they're towing the line.

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Good thread, OP. Well handled, I might say too.

I'm in marketing like you and the subliminal thing is the bread and butter. I generally try to use positive, uplifting imagery to achieve ends, but sometimes feel a little guilty about using stuff the average person is unaware of.

Think about it this way. If they want to go the Lucifer track, they will pull in people with the positive uplifting stuff. This attracts people to the music, whilst sewn into it, is the darker agenda. Things shown and done a certain way... early symbolism used in innocent (deniable) ways - like, um - Disneyland or Wizard of Oz.

New age sentiments planted in the fertile ground of youthful minds grow into flowers of rebellion against the old ways. Each newer generation is drawn deeper into the impending chaos, while the elder ones wonder what happened to their world.

Small steps at first, then years later they start to get really blatant with an already conditioned (over a couple generations) population. Miley, we see you. Or rather, your alter.

They ain't famous unless they're towing the line.

popcorn
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Thanks mate, a lot of good sense there.

I guess I'm not really making any statements here, just asking questions and looking a bit closer at the stuff that has been right under my nose for the last 30 or 40 years and like you say not as blatant as it is with the likes of what the kids are witnessing today.

And it has to make you wonder exactly where is all this stuff is really going, where is it all going to end up? Society has seemingly irreversibly tipped upside down in the last few decades, but the degradation of it is accelerating at breakneck speed in the last few years. What on earth is this world going to be like in another 30 years time. I'm honestly wondering if I even want to know. And the likes of what we witnessed from Miley Cyrus, and all those other blatant puppets of recent years is absolute testament to the fact that music has definitely been hijacked to serve the purpose of the masters. It's definitely time to start looking a little bit closer at everything.

Definitely with you on the marketing stuff. Spent the best part of a decade marketing in the financial services industry before it all went tits up circa 2007/8, and its fair to say I've used advertising techniques looking back, that knowing what I know now about the world, and how it works and some of what really goes on, that I'm really not that happy about.

Its a glib quote, but it's definitely true to say that 'change comes from within'.

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