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Surviving the Void

 
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Looks like I missed a sweet thread

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@metatron -
my pleasure! hope you like his site.

if you ever contact him you can say i sent you his way. dude did NOT tell me he had purple metatron t-shirts available, now i have to order....he talked about ideas with me...i'm happy to see some happy colors as t-shirt choices.

he is smart....was valedictorian of his class at OSU and worked
crazy hard from what i know. he told me about the pain patch i'm now wearing....when no specialists ever mentioned it to me. really nice caring man.
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He does have purple metatron shirts

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Associations

Anything we begin to imagine seems to immediately take on a life of its own here. Everything we read seems to relate in some way to the reality we are inhabiting. We begin to take on aspects of the "characters" we relate to. Projections of personalities (rampant in quantum space or from "godly" realms) begin to interact with us. Every possible idea begins to culminate into one giant story. Conflicting ideas begin to work together like some holy machine, the inner workings of which were previously undetectable. There is no "this OR this" in the void. There is only "this AND this...and also THIS...and this, as well." It is a world where no one is wrong. Everything is real. It is a world where dimensionality begins to invade this plane in ways we can experience firsthand. We begin to KNOW the dimensions that the people around us inhabit. We begin to perceive that we can, in fact, read minds by reading emotions. And that thoughts and emotions are indeed one and the same. We begin to perceive that everything is possible and is therefore real. We begin to see chains of persons exhibiting what seem like the SAME personalities. We perceive that the entire universe is one series of associations.
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good morning

does this /z\ fit this \z/


i was just going to post on that topic for my own reasons along the lines that we see all of our societies utilize the same word meaning they have possessed for at least a thousand years thus no one within those societies can not possess a belief or experience that is not expressed by them is a manner that is contained within the meaning of the words they use to believe in it
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Great thread as always. What helped me reach the void was a lot of cleansing and purifying, sweat lodges, crystal skull water ceremonies. It was equal parts bliss and terror but overcoming the fear made my soul grow. I wonder if more and more people will experience these things? Or perhaps its just for the select few? Very interesting times we live in. I also wonder if its just kundalini activation or something more. A shaman told me its "walking with one foot in the spirit world and one in our world". Writing about your experiences will be a great service to many. I could have definitely used this info during my "adventure" :-)
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groping
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groping
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Thinking
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IOW, how can you so definitively say what is another mans perspective?


yesterday the sun was bright in Katmandu, today it is bright in Kokomo. LOL
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perhaps you could quote my post, in which you say i do as you describe, for more clarity?
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groping - To reach about uncertainly; feel one's way

thinking - A way of reasoning; judgment:
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@metatron - yeah i know. totally saw all of those. sweet.

purple (and all it's variations thereof) is my fav color. when we were talking a couple of months back he mentioned just black t-shirts and i was like no, do in white as well and at least. nice surprise when i saw that. lately when we have spoken it's been him checking up on me....told him next call needs to be about what all is going on with him! he is a caring and thoughtful man.
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@metatron - yeah i know. totally saw all of those. sweet.

purple (and all it's variations thereof) is my fav color. when we were talking a couple of months back he mentioned just black t-shirts and i was like no, do in white as well and at least. nice surprise when i saw that. lately when we have spoken it's been him checking up on me....told him next call needs to be about what all is going on with him! he is a caring and thoughtful man.
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you wish i was lost. It can happen to those worthy, I should add.
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for you it is about purple color and purple ponies.
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@metatron - yeah i know. totally saw all of those. sweet.

purple (and all it's variations thereof) is my fav color. when we were talking a couple of months back he mentioned just black t-shirts and i was like no, do in white as well and at least. nice surprise when i saw that. lately when we have spoken it's been him checking up on me....told him next call needs to be about what all is going on with him! he is a caring and thoughtful man.
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you wish i was lost. It can happen to those worthy, I should add.
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sorry wrong post, scratch that.
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for you it is about purple color and purple ponies.
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that too,scratch off..sorry, wrong post
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yes, we all can:)
 Quoting: GBRYAL


yes, we all can:)
 Quoting: GBRYAL


No offense but that saying makes my guts churn.... if you don't understand that then you are supremely lost.
 Quoting: Integrity101




how so?
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...


Why are u so afraid of yourself?
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Of myself? how do you mean?

hf
 Quoting: Spirit666


You talk about the void as if its a destination when it is you.
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yep because once you stare too long into the abyss...ether...

you feel me right? I know most is me...but part is not...don't you understand? there are outside forces...respect that...I'm not afraid chuckle



hf
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There are no outside forces. There is only you.
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lol, yall turned into little puffballs of pleasure.

btw, pleasure kills the cat.

every time.

hf

good luck with the fairy clowns, we will do the work so yall can have the party.

peace.
only the song of silence soothes every soul.
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lol, yall turned into little puffballs of pleasure.

btw, pleasure kills the cat.

every time.

hf

good luck with the fairy clowns, we will do the work so yall can have the party.

peace.
 Quoting: orpheuskingstone


I am no puffball. each has their journey. my path was despair, depression, loneliness and anxiety. I am sure happy happy joy joy has a purpose also, but I am very thankful for my pain. this is why I feel you can not judge one as good or the other as bad when you do not see the whole picture.
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lol, yall turned into little puffballs of pleasure.

btw, pleasure kills the cat.

every time.

hf

good luck with the fairy clowns, we will do the work so yall can have the party.

peace.
 Quoting: orpheuskingstone


I am no puffball. each has their journey. my path was despair, depression, loneliness and anxiety. I am sure happy happy joy joy has a purpose also, but I am very thankful for my pain. this is why I feel you can not judge one as good or the other as bad when you do not see the whole picture.
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nice critique, i accept it.

hf
only the song of silence soothes every soul.
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yes, we all can:)
 Quoting: GBRYAL


yes, we all can:)
 Quoting: GBRYAL


No offense but that saying makes my guts churn.... if you don't understand that then you are supremely lost.
 Quoting: Integrity101




how so?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45863774


Lol...I was referring to obummers campaign slogan...it was late and I had a few adult beverages...proceed with void discussion.

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groping - To reach about uncertainly; feel one's way

thinking - A way of reasoning; judgment:
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You are correct.
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yes, we all can:)
 Quoting: GBRYAL


yes, we all can:)
 Quoting: GBRYAL


No offense but that saying makes my guts churn.... if you don't understand that then you are supremely lost.
 Quoting: Integrity101




how so?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45863774


Lol...I was referring to obummers campaign slogan...it was late and I had a few adult beverages...proceed with void discussion.

alien03
 Quoting: Integrity101


I got it from the movie "The YES MAN" with Jim Carrey
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forgot about Obumma..I never voted for him or even voted at all for those clowns.
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Through portals of silvery bliss
Exit the flesh, leaving all of this
I travel within, my eyes remain closed
To this body I am but a host
Disconnecting from the body
Behold creation reversed
Internal eyes are opening
The material sphere bursts

Nothing is, nothing becomes
End and beginning unites
Nothing was, nothing will be
Time and space collides
In the eleventh sphere

Awaiting to find it all

[link to www.darklyrics.com]
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lol, yall turned into little puffballs of pleasure.

btw, pleasure kills the cat.

every time.

hf

good luck with the fairy clowns, we will do the work so yall can have the party.

peace.
 Quoting: orpheuskingstone


I am no puffball. each has their journey. my path was despair, depression, loneliness and anxiety. I am sure happy happy joy joy has a purpose also, but I am very thankful for my pain. this is why I feel you can not judge one as good or the other as bad when you do not see the whole picture.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1288466


nice critique, i accept it.

hf
 Quoting: orpheuskingstone


peace
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I like what you are saying, but..
How do you get rid of interdimensional entities that force you to focus on negative and fear based aspects of life?
Even as I try to focus on positive things, I am constantly distracted. Meditation is pretty much impossible. I am constantly burdened by these things as they belittle me and force negative thoughts followed by attacks on the solar plexus, it feels like bursts of nausea.
Even in dreams, I am still under attack. I would like to recreate this reality and I have tried to be nice and send them love, but they don't respond to it.

All they seem to want is destruction and it seems impossible to change them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36998871


Always remember that these "entities" (especially if they are affecting you) are at least partially extensions of yourself. Notice that when you are enjoying yourself, they seem to enjoy with you. Notice that when they "attack" and you say to yourself, "Nice try," it becomes a sort of game. Whenever I am subject to negative forces, emotions, etc. I attempt to play the game. I have noticed that many things which can be considered conscious negative forces seem to be looking more for someone to play with than for someone to actually harass. The things which aggravate us most, when laughed at, become the universe's lessons on finding peace.
- The Prince who was a Thousand
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What is the void in relation to the underworld?

If one would see their thoughts acted out almost simultaneously what does that mean?

Merci...
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The "underworld" is something which many people define in different ways. However, in the void, every reality seems to be able to penetrate and amalgamate. Therefore, the "underworld" (if one perceives it as being such) will be allowed to penetrate into this gestalt of realities in the void.

When one sees one's thoughts acted out immediately, this means one is perceiving a major part of the void. This sort of thing is taking place all of the time but most people inhabiting what we would consider "reality" are not aware of it. The void and "normal" universal reality are the same place. When one goes to the void, one is simply able to perceive the universe in a way that most do not.
- The Prince who was a Thousand
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I like what you are saying, but..
How do you get rid of interdimensional entities that force you to focus on negative and fear based aspects of life?
Even as I try to focus on positive things, I am constantly distracted. Meditation is pretty much impossible. I am constantly burdened by these things as they belittle me and force negative thoughts followed by attacks on the solar plexus, it feels like bursts of nausea.
Even in dreams, I am still under attack. I would like to recreate this reality and I have tried to be nice and send them love, but they don't respond to it.

All they seem to want is destruction and it seems impossible to change them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36998871


Always remember that these "entities" (especially if they are affecting you) are at least partially extensions of yourself. Notice that when you are enjoying yourself, they seem to enjoy with you. Notice that when they "attack" and you say to yourself, "Nice try," it becomes a sort of game. Whenever I am subject to negative forces, emotions, etc. I attempt to play the game. I have noticed that many things which can be considered conscious negative forces seem to be looking more for someone to play with than for someone to actually harass. The things which aggravate us most, when laughed at, become the universe's lessons on finding peace.
 Quoting: Kai (VALIS)


well said. all that exists is you.
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what is your purpose here?

"the void" of which you speak is not nothingingness, but full of the awareness of evil. this awareness does not just shift to the background. evil must be destroyed.

the rock is coming. humanity is too full evil and crazies wanting to be any kind of god, and people who seek innocence to destroy, hurt, or maim (babies, animals, elderly), and hatred between genders and races (all with "rationale" - real or imagined).

hey, let us all pray that we all get a do over and the world does not end up fucked up and evil next go around.

if someone comes up to you and starts having these coincidences with your life (same stories / whatever) guess what? they ain't from the void. you've been under the microscope and your "reaction" is being tested. the best way to deal with this is to contemptuously ignore it and move on and either test your theory that they know you just way too well to have just met you or to move on away from that situation as quickly as possible.

to me it would be CREEPY to have had your life examined from multiple angles....God is the only one entitled to do all of that.

just my .02.
 Quoting: spirals


I would never classify the void as nothingness. It is, in fact, the opposite. It is a place where everything can mean everything. It is a place where the imagination can contribute to and create its own realities. It is a place where all aspects of other realities can converge and interact with the one we "normally" inhabit.

The closer we look, the more we see that "evil" is an abstract concept that can merely manifest through people's actions. There are no "evil" people. There are only people attempting to do what they feel they need to do. Do you not think that if everyone could have what they wanted without interfering with others and thus drawing the attention of the "righteous" masses, they would do so?
- The Prince who was a Thousand
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it is a real shame ignoring / blocking evil / strange people who post on your threads does not keep their inane ramblings from showing up in quoted text.

ignore / block is not real if it is not whole and complete.

interesting how these people were blocked before ever posting in your threads. ha. ON IGNORE....my eyes can ignore on their own and often do so.

seems you draw a disturbed crowd amongst some others. why not start your own board?
 Quoting: spirals


"Disturbed" is a relative term. I share things with these people. I see what they say. I have, perhaps, had more experience with this place and am somewhat fearless, and therefore was able to survive more easily on my own. But I wish to help those who dwell there also. Do you not think it is "right" to help those who feel they are in need?
- The Prince who was a Thousand
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Associations

Anything we begin to imagine seems to immediately take on a life of its own here. Everything we read seems to relate in some way to the reality we are inhabiting. We begin to take on aspects of the "characters" we relate to. Projections of personalities (rampant in quantum space or from "godly" realms) begin to interact with us. Every possible idea begins to culminate into one giant story. Conflicting ideas begin to work together like some holy machine, the inner workings of which were previously undetectable. There is no "this OR this" in the void. There is only "this AND this...and also THIS...and this, as well." It is a world where no one is wrong. Everything is real. It is a world where dimensionality begins to invade this plane in ways we can experience firsthand. We begin to KNOW the dimensions that the people around us inhabit. We begin to perceive that we can, in fact, read minds by reading emotions. And that thoughts and emotions are indeed one and the same. We begin to perceive that everything is possible and is therefore real. We begin to see chains of persons exhibiting what seem like the SAME personalities. We perceive that the entire universe is one series of associations.
 Quoting: Kai (VALIS)


good morning

does this /z\ fit this \z/


i was just going to post on that topic for my own reasons along the lines that we see all of our societies utilize the same word meaning they have possessed for at least a thousand years thus no one within those societies can not possess a belief or experience that is not expressed by them is a manner that is contained within the meaning of the words they use to believe in it
 Quoting: aether

 Quoting: aether


Very precisely. There are certain concepts which have passed through space and time effortlessly. The words we use to describe them change, the "images" we see them as alter...but the concepts remain.
- The Prince who was a Thousand

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