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Surviving the Void

 
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Great thread as always. What helped me reach the void was a lot of cleansing and purifying, sweat lodges, crystal skull water ceremonies. It was equal parts bliss and terror but overcoming the fear made my soul grow. I wonder if more and more people will experience these things? Or perhaps its just for the select few? Very interesting times we live in. I also wonder if its just kundalini activation or something more. A shaman told me its "walking with one foot in the spirit world and one in our world". Writing about your experiences will be a great service to many. I could have definitely used this info during my "adventure" :-)
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It is quite the opposite of kundalini, as I see it. Whereas kundalini is projecting one's self outward, this seems to be bringing the other "dimensions," "realities," or "realms" inward. The shaman that told you about walking one foot in, one foot out seems to see it very similarly. It is existing in a place where all realities converge.

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IOW, how can you so definitively say what is another mans perspective?


yesterday the sun was bright in Katmandu, today it is bright in Kokomo. LOL
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perhaps you could quote my post, in which you say i do as you describe, for more clarity?
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I think I can clarify.

When you mentioned a "disturbed" crowd you were passing judgement on a group of people who you do not know. This is what was being referred to.
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Great thread as always. What helped me reach the void was a lot of cleansing and purifying, sweat lodges, crystal skull water ceremonies. It was equal parts bliss and terror but overcoming the fear made my soul grow. I wonder if more and more people will experience these things? Or perhaps its just for the select few? Very interesting times we live in. I also wonder if its just kundalini activation or something more. A shaman told me its "walking with one foot in the spirit world and one in our world". Writing about your experiences will be a great service to many. I could have definitely used this info during my "adventure" :-)
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Some of my experience with the void:

Thread: Strangeness (UFO's, Dimensionals, and "The Chair")
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One Foot In, One Foot Out

When traversing this territory, we may have a tendency to become so overwhelmed by the things we are seeing that they begin to override the "normal" reality which most people inhabit. When this happens we can seem "delusional." This is where the paranoia, fear, and uncertainty start to take control. We must always be aware that what we are seeing is not the ONLY version of reality which exists. We must remember that we are existing now in multiple realities at the same time. We inhabit the "normal" universe which the many consider to be the "only" universe. But we are beginning to experience things which they CANNOT perceive (at least in their current state). If we wish to survive this unscathed, we must continue to be aware of this. We must learn to live with one foot in and one foot out. Maintain stability in physical space while experiencing the void.
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Of myself? how do you mean?

hf
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You talk about the void as if its a destination when it is you.
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yep because once you stare too long into the abyss...ether...

you feel me right? I know most is me...but part is not...don't you understand? there are outside forces...respect that...I'm not afraid chuckle



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There are no outside forces. There is only you.
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ether meaning

ether - a medium that was once supposed to fill all space and to support the propagation of electromagnetic waves

medium - an intervening substance through which signals can travel as a means for communication


see where I am coming from? there are other forces at work...call it the abyss/void...call it the ether...

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One Foot In, One Foot Out

When traversing this territory, we may have a tendency to become so overwhelmed by the things we are seeing that they begin to override the "normal" reality which most people inhabit. When this happens we can seem "delusional." This is where the paranoia, fear, and uncertainty start to take control. We must always be aware that what we are seeing is not the ONLY version of reality which exists. We must remember that we are existing now in multiple realities at the same time. We inhabit the "normal" universe which the many consider to be the "only" universe. But we are beginning to experience things which they CANNOT perceive (at least in their current state). If we wish to survive this unscathed, we must continue to be aware of this. We must learn to live with one foot in and one foot out. Maintain stability in physical space while experiencing the void.
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Hello Kai :) Nice post...like a cat lol

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When traversing this territory, we may have a tendency to become so overwhelmed by the things we are seeing that they begin to override the "normal" reality which most people inhabit. When this happens we can seem "delusional." This is where the paranoia, fear, and uncertainty start to take control. We must always be aware that what we are seeing is not the ONLY version of reality which exists. We must remember that we are existing now in multiple realities at the same time. We inhabit the "normal" universe which the many consider to be the "only" universe. But we are beginning to experience things which they CANNOT perceive (at least in their current state). If we wish to survive this unscathed, we must continue to be aware of this. We must learn to live with one foot in and one foot out. Maintain stability in physical space while experiencing the void.
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Hello Kai :) Nice post...like a cat lol

hf
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Hi Spirit,

I am certainly as curious as one.
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How do you personally access the void? I have been there via entheogens, but do you have any natural ways?
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How do you personally access the void? I have been there via entheogens, but do you have any natural ways?
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Sleep deprivation. And again, I am not recommending this. But you asked and I am answering.
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How do you personally access the void? I have been there via entheogens, but do you have any natural ways?
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Sleep deprivation. And again, I am not recommending this. But you asked and I am answering.
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How long?

Have you tried fasting?
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How do you personally access the void? I have been there via entheogens, but do you have any natural ways?
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Sleep deprivation. And again, I am not recommending this. But you asked and I am answering.
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How long?

Have you tried fasting?
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As long as you can go. However, staying awake for more than 2 or 3 days can be dangerous. If you are trying this, at least do it under controlled conditions. Fasting seems to be more harmful to physical health and does not seem to affect the brain as much. Keep in mind, most people who reach this state are not doing so intentionally. Whatever you do, be careful.
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How do you personally access the void? I have been there via entheogens, but do you have any natural ways?
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Sleep deprivation. And again, I am not recommending this. But you asked and I am answering.
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Agreed. this is one sure way. the first sign you have been successful is that you are clinically insane. then in time you will come to realize that you are the only one left with any sanity.
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How do you personally access the void? I have been there via entheogens, but do you have any natural ways?
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Sleep deprivation. And again, I am not recommending this. But you asked and I am answering.
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Agreed. this is one sure way. the first sign you have been successful is that you are clinically insane. then in time you will come to realize that you are the only one left with any sanity.
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One's thoughts are never a problem. It is one's actions which can create friction.
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How do you personally access the void? I have been there via entheogens, but do you have any natural ways?
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Sleep deprivation. And again, I am not recommending this. But you asked and I am answering.
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Agreed. this is one sure way. the first sign you have been successful is that you are clinically insane. then in time you will come to realize that you are the only one left with any sanity.
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Thanks for this. rose
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Kai valis, have you actually experienced this "void" and any of the beings which inhabit "it"? I think the word "void" is a misnomer as there is no void- but there is a space or number of spaces where these beings exist , and I get the sense that they inhabit/overlap/are immanent with/within ours.
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Yes. "Void" is just a word for a place where everything converges. All realities exist and we begin to swim in a sea of uncertainty. It is a place where universal consciousness begins to project into our very realities.
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Okay thanks!
I have read through this entire thread, and your explanations have been very helpful to me in understanding my own experience, which in many ways seem to mirror yours (I am assuming that you are writing from personal experience)

Have you met/spoken to anyone there/here? I would be interested to hear, if you are comfortable sharing.
I was wondering if you had formed any sort of friendship/relationship (teacher, friend, adversary, protector etc ) with anyone there and how well you got to know he/she/it.
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Kai valis, have you actually experienced this "void" and any of the beings which inhabit "it"? I think the word "void" is a misnomer as there is no void- but there is a space or number of spaces where these beings exist , and I get the sense that they inhabit/overlap/are immanent with/within ours.
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Yes. "Void" is just a word for a place where everything converges. All realities exist and we begin to swim in a sea of uncertainty. It is a place where universal consciousness begins to project into our very realities.
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Okay thanks!
I have read through this entire thread, and your explanations have been very helpful to me in understanding my own experience, which in many ways seem to mirror yours (I am assuming that you are writing from personal experience)

Have you met/spoken to anyone there/here? I would be interested to hear, if you are comfortable sharing.
I was wondering if you had formed any sort of friendship/relationship (teacher, friend, adversary, protector etc ) with anyone there and how well you got to know he/she/it.
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It is hard to quantify the specific or individual consciousnesses that inhabit the void. They are numerous and fluid and obscure. I have, on several occasions, noticed what seem to be the same few "personalities" popping up and projecting through various people around me. However, one must be aware that these can easily be construed as the same emotional facets projecting through said people, as opposed to actual "entities" coming through. I will say that it has seemed uncanny on more than one occasion and that I do believe I have interacted with certain aspects of the "universal consciousness." There are several that seem to stand out. They are like tricksters. They love to play games. I can see how others would find them antagonistic but when I interacted with them they seemed more mischievous or playful than anything else.
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After a few days of no sleep, it seems like certain senses are heightened and others are dulled. I always got incredibly creative for one example.
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After a few days of no sleep, it seems like certain senses are heightened and others are dulled. I always got incredibly creative for one example.
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Creativity seems to be inextricably linked to the state of mind which brings perception of the void. This creative insight is tied to the awareness of correlations.
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@kai - if what you write about the "void" were correct many people are living fhat "reality" every moment of their life, so your theory is hypothetical and unproven.

what you are speaking of is people who are leaders and are able to shape ot just their own "reality" but influence reality at a larger of scale as God must be allowing them to have a larger scale of influence. so, i don't believe this has anything to do with any "void," but God allowing certain individuals to lead (even though some of them may not be elected leaders or in the public eye), by shaping things within the world more to their way of thinking. this mist really piss off those who seek the NWO and deny God,

evil exists. even if one person was in a virtual world (what is real? real is still what is happening im that "world"), it would still be evil to be a child molester, murder people, engage in beastiality. etc. in that "world" bc only an evil person would want to experience those things. period.

to deny evil is to deny good and help and what you say you are trying to do here with wanting to help others. why would people need help unless bad and evil exist?
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How do you personally access the void? I have been there via entheogens, but do you have any natural ways?
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Sleep deprivation. And again, I am not recommending this. But you asked and I am answering.
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Agreed. this is one sure way. the first sign you have been successful is that you are clinically insane. then in time you will come to realize that you are the only one left with any sanity.
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Thanks for this. rose
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'Insanity' is just de-constructed spirituality.

As your consciousness grows and develops, the pieces will be re-arranged: in the way they were always meant to fit.

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@kai - if what you write about the "void" were correct many people are living fhat "reality" every moment of their life, so your theory is hypothetical and unproven.

what you are speaking of is people who are leaders and are able to shape ot just their own "reality" but influence reality at a larger of scale as God must be allowing them to have a larger scale of influence. so, i don't believe this has anything to do with any "void," but God allowing certain individuals to lead (even though some of them may not be elected leaders or in the public eye), by shaping things within the world more to their way of thinking. this mist really piss off those who seek the NWO and deny God,

evil exists. even if one person was in a virtual world (what is real? real is still what is happening im that "world"), it would still be evil to be a child molester, murder people, engage in beastiality. etc. in that "world" bc only an evil person would want to experience those things. period.

to deny evil is to deny good and help and what you say you are trying to do here with wanting to help others. why would people need help unless bad and evil exist?
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Fear and uncertainty are not "evil," my friend.
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After a few days of no sleep, it seems like certain senses are heightened and others are dulled. I always got incredibly creative for one example.
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Creativity seems to be inextricably linked to the state of mind which brings perception of the void. This creative insight is tied to the awareness of correlations.
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Around the time of my 'awakening', sometime last March, I had been awake for ~two weeks.

I was not hallucinating, and for the most part I was coherent and able to trudge about to get the day's errands done.

I ended up learning how to meditate out of sheer necessity: I needed a way to maintain my energy levels. I also began to 'dream while awake'; essentially a state of very deep thought while staring off into space.

I only managed to sleep after about forty-nine days. But by then, I was actually more stable than the first few weeks.

It was quite a difficult time for me, indeed.
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IOW, how can you so definitively say what is another mans perspective?


yesterday the sun was bright in Katmandu, today it is bright in Kokomo. LOL
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perhaps you could quote my post, in which you say i do as you describe, for more clarity?
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I think I can clarify.

When you mentioned a "disturbed" crowd you were passing judgement on a group of people who you do not know. This is what was being referred to.
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no, s/he made that statement before my post which you referenced.
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@kai - if what you write about the "void" were correct many people are living fhat "reality" every moment of their life, so your theory is hypothetical and unproven.

what you are speaking of is people who are leaders and are able to shape ot just their own "reality" but influence reality at a larger of scale as God must be allowing them to have a larger scale of influence. so, i don't believe this has anything to do with any "void," but God allowing certain individuals to lead (even though some of them may not be elected leaders or in the public eye), by shaping things within the world more to their way of thinking. this mist really piss off those who seek the NWO and deny God,

evil exists. even if one person was in a virtual world (what is real? real is still what is happening im that "world"), it would still be evil to be a child molester, murder people, engage in beastiality. etc. in that "world" bc only an evil person would want to experience those things. period.

to deny evil is to deny good and help and what you say you are trying to do here with wanting to help others. why would people need help unless bad and evil exist?
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Fear and uncertainty are not "evil," my friend.
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never wrote or implied they were. want to point where that is specifically? also, i have no fear except for a healthy one of disappointing God.
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define "God"

perhaps it is this void? or The Mind (not yours or his/hers or mine but all of ours)

or perhaps it is all non-sense?
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>>no, s/he made that statement before my post which you referenced.<<

it was a question that was asked but in a way it was a statement for your benefit. only trying to help (Do unto others and all)

I think the ultimate purpose of each individuals life is to learn and to believe in anything requres a lack of knowledge.

ignorance?
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define "God"

perhaps it is this void? or The Mind (not yours or his/hers or mine but all of ours)

or perhaps it is all non-sense?
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Define God?

Not quite, but I do know, that the 'void'.... is another matter.....

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"If we were meant to die,"
she started calmly, the dragon finishing:
"why go to all the trouble of living?"

My companion spoke again:
"You don't think we're skilled enough at the art of death? Give us a little credit.
It's been done a billion times before, and you know what? I happen to think that at death, we are second to none
.
The void collapses, is tangled in a web to infinity;
matter is born, then stars, then planets, then atmospheres, then cells, then creatures...
"
she left off,

the dragon continuing;
"then, a type of creature whom shall bear the crown.
A billion times over, one gets caught in the web that is its reality.
No matter the form, it is in all;
merely look to the crabs that walk on land,
the fish that breach the shore,
the lizards that glide through the air,
the mouse that braves the light,
the wolves that prowl the seas."


At last I spoke... "and the ape... that stands... to reach the apple..."

The realm folded in on itself as the dragon broke its stare and lowered its head to my feet.

"Aha...” My companion whispers. “So now we know for sure...”
She extended her hand, a gentle, sly smile across her face.
So then.... who is the dragon? Who... is the void?
My existential fear vanished forever. I grinned triumphantly as I spoke:
It is I, my dear. I AM. I AM. I, AM!

I gripped the waiting hand of Ishtar in tremendous, electrified agreement.
The world was almost crumbled to nothing: the black tar had again surrounded the three of us.
I stepped onto the dragon’s mighty brow to stand beside her.

Ishtar bellows: “Oh, hell yes! Time to kick some ass!

The egos of the three spirits,
identical yet unmistakeable,
jumbled apart then aligned as one.
The black tar rippled,
and its gravity and pressure became incredible.
Electrical bolts ran through the tar as the dragon roared a sigh... of relief.
It began to swim through the thickening, hardening tar.

It burst forth from the blackness,
shattering the thick mire like glass.

Never again....” the dragon chuckled as it ascended proudly, magnificently.

Never again”.

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peace
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hey Kai, when you are in this void, what is your sense of self like? do your emotions change, fluctuate or non exist?
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so synchronistic coincidental anomalies are actually meant to be coinciding anomalistic synchronicities...i guess all i can say now is Serendipity

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