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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 29203778  Italy08/29/2013 01:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you may ask me to define these but so far I cant because I am not so sure about them or anything. I used to think I was sure like many others but then I realized I was not. how can we be sure of anything? serious question. >>anything we FEEL can become a part of our reality.<< that narrows it down quite nicely! I would say it does become instead of "can" become whether we realize it or not but then Im not sure what your definition of "FEEL" is exactly. the hard part is absolute control of this (repeatable) and this is one of the reasons I always need more definitions. Striving |
Kai (VALIS) (OP) User ID: 25570375  United States08/29/2013 01:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation |  Greetings Kai... your energy feels familiar  where could I possibly get that from .... maybe another website from the past Hello! Doubtful. I did not do much posting before GLP. But I do get that "familiarity" thing a lot. Interesting. :) Maybe it was on the astral plane  Do you know someone named Sevan? I believe that may be the case. I do a lot of jobs there. ;) - The Spider Kid |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 19535695 United States08/29/2013 02:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Greetings Kai... your energy feels familiar where could I possibly get that from .... maybe another website from the past Hello! Doubtful. I did not do much posting before GLP. But I do get that "familiarity" thing a lot. Interesting. :) Maybe it was on the astral plane Do you know someone named Sevan? I believe that may be the case. I do a lot of jobs there. ;) Next time you run into a violet light source ... :) :stallionlight: [link to www.youtube.com] |
| aether User ID: 45632418  United Kingdom08/29/2013 02:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | good morning Quoting: aether well we are narrowing it down dimensional jumping is going forward or backwards in our material dimension but not to stay, to experience from the present via field memory (re experiencing the past in our present) or utilizing our universes precognition the same way, experiencing events awaiting to happen within our present (altered state) if we go physically into another dimension our material dimension is instant by instant the same instant everywhere within itself, as seen by field of gravity instant/distance effect all things material, thus no matter how long you stay out of our material dimension within non material dimensions there is no return to or influence within our material dimension other than the same instant you do so and that is the same instant throughout the dimension there is no before or after instant thus there is only the same past field memory or same precognition experience to experience from within the material dimension what does happen is because by default all velocities outside of our material dimension is faster than light you experience infinitely faster all things than you do in our material dimension thus like a dream, you may leave our material dimension and return 5 light speed minutes later but you may have experienced a month or a year of living while you were gone as in contact the movie this gives the impression of time travel can you crit that kai , if you are in the mood , i notice time has an emotional effect on many people , to me thanks  Good day, my friend! These statements fall in well with my perception of dimensional travel. It may be that this is happening at all moments, simultaneously...that every fraction of every second we are jumping back and forth and that these actions are tied to what decisions and actions we take in the "now." Perhaps we are affecting/affected by every coordinated movement of every quantum self which we connect to. This may be why, when we read something which emotionally resonates (even a "fictional" story) it can literally seem to become real. We can connect to the characters which we empathize with (here is your emotion/time correlation) and anything we FEEL can become a part of our reality. do we see a location(s) for \z/ in here /z\ as in: dimensions/mediums for things to things within There is a place the mind can take us which has been experienced by many but often mislabeled as a "delusional state." It seems to have been experienced by many philosophical thinkers, "prophets," religious and spiritual leaders, and notably by many who claim to have experienced an "awakening." It is a place where every idea, dormant in the mind or otherwise, can be linked back to a central point. It is a place where things we have seen every day become mysterious and other things seem to make sense for the first time. It is a place where, when we descend into it, we begin to question everything we have ever learned, seen, heard, and "known." It is a place where, quite suddenly, it can seem that all the people around us are talking in code. It is a place where most become lost and frightened and begin to believe there is not a single soul or a tangible idea they can trust. In this place, every word spoken has multiple meanings. In this place, every story becomes the same cyclical set of events repeating over and over again. In this place, there is so much information to process that we often find ourselves overcome and forget how we arrived at a point 10 minutes after we have found it. In this reality, consciousness or "entities" or "gods" can seemingly inhabit the people around us and begin to converse. Every experience, from the most inconsequential daily routine to the most intense interaction becomes a battle for spiritual life or death. We can begin to feel that we are affecting our realities with mere thoughts and words. And we are. People who experience this place often fall victim to paranoia, terror, and obscurity and thus begin to lose their grip on the commonly inhabited "reality." But this is not the only outcome. It is survivable. Many simply do not know that others are inhabiting this place with them. It is a misunderstood place and a misrepresented phenomenon. But it is real. It is the void. This thread will examine it. Quoting: Kai (VALIS) |
| Kai (VALIS) (OP) User ID: 25570375 United States08/29/2013 02:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | good morning Quoting: aether well we are narrowing it down dimensional jumping is going forward or backwards in our material dimension but not to stay, to experience from the present via field memory (re experiencing the past in our present) or utilizing our universes precognition the same way, experiencing events awaiting to happen within our present (altered state) if we go physically into another dimension our material dimension is instant by instant the same instant everywhere within itself, as seen by field of gravity instant/distance effect all things material, thus no matter how long you stay out of our material dimension within non material dimensions there is no return to or influence within our material dimension other than the same instant you do so and that is the same instant throughout the dimension there is no before or after instant thus there is only the same past field memory or same precognition experience to experience from within the material dimension what does happen is because by default all velocities outside of our material dimension is faster than light you experience infinitely faster all things than you do in our material dimension thus like a dream, you may leave our material dimension and return 5 light speed minutes later but you may have experienced a month or a year of living while you were gone as in contact the movie this gives the impression of time travel can you crit that kai , if you are in the mood , i notice time has an emotional effect on many people , to me thanks Good day, my friend! These statements fall in well with my perception of dimensional travel. It may be that this is happening at all moments, simultaneously...that every fraction of every second we are jumping back and forth and that these actions are tied to what decisions and actions we take in the "now." Perhaps we are affecting/affected by every coordinated movement of every quantum self which we connect to. This may be why, when we read something which emotionally resonates (even a "fictional" story) it can literally seem to become real. We can connect to the characters which we empathize with (here is your emotion/time correlation) and anything we FEEL can become a part of our reality. do we see a location(s) for \z/ in here /z\ as in: dimensions/mediums for things to things within There is a place the mind can take us which has been experienced by many but often mislabeled as a "delusional state." It seems to have been experienced by many philosophical thinkers, "prophets," religious and spiritual leaders, and notably by many who claim to have experienced an "awakening." It is a place where every idea, dormant in the mind or otherwise, can be linked back to a central point. It is a place where things we have seen every day become mysterious and other things seem to make sense for the first time. It is a place where, when we descend into it, we begin to question everything we have ever learned, seen, heard, and "known." It is a place where, quite suddenly, it can seem that all the people around us are talking in code. It is a place where most become lost and frightened and begin to believe there is not a single soul or a tangible idea they can trust. In this place, every word spoken has multiple meanings. In this place, every story becomes the same cyclical set of events repeating over and over again. In this place, there is so much information to process that we often find ourselves overcome and forget how we arrived at a point 10 minutes after we have found it. In this reality, consciousness or "entities" or "gods" can seemingly inhabit the people around us and begin to converse. Every experience, from the most inconsequential daily routine to the most intense interaction becomes a battle for spiritual life or death. We can begin to feel that we are affecting our realities with mere thoughts and words. And we are. People who experience this place often fall victim to paranoia, terror, and obscurity and thus begin to lose their grip on the commonly inhabited "reality." But this is not the only outcome. It is survivable. Many simply do not know that others are inhabiting this place with them. It is a misunderstood place and a misrepresented phenomenon. But it is real. It is the void. This thread will examine it. Quoting: Kai (VALIS) Yes. We begin to see dimensions as any system of viewing reality which can be classified as different from any other system of viewing reality. Therefor, infinite dimensions arise within all realities. We can see that there are modes of viewing just within this "normal" universe which we previously were unaware of. - The Spider Kid |
| aether User ID: 45632418 United Kingdom08/29/2013 03:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes. We begin to see dimensions as any system of viewing reality which can be classified as different from any other system of viewing reality. Therefor, infinite dimensions arise within all realities. We can see that there are modes of viewing just within this "normal" universe which we previously were unaware of. well , if we use the same system of viewing for all that we see , our 21st century technology confirms that there are measurable non material dimensions and those dimensions contain measurable units/structures within them what was discovered was the moment our technologies viewing functions exceeded the speed of light it thus we saw things invisible at the speed of light and because beyond the speed of light does not support material structure , what we saw is not touchable in the normal sensory capacity of understanding but these faster than light structures and the dimensions that contain them do cause visible effects upon and within our material dimension which is functioning at light speed thus contains units of matter Last Edited by aether on 08/29/2013 03:02 PM |
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| Kai (VALIS) (OP) User ID: 25570375 United States08/29/2013 03:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes. We begin to see dimensions as any system of viewing reality which can be classified as different from any other system of viewing reality. Therefor, infinite dimensions arise within all realities. We can see that there are modes of viewing just within this "normal" universe which we previously were unaware of. well , if we use the same system of viewing for all that we see , our 21st century technology confirms that there are measurable non material dimensions and those dimensions contain measurable units/structures within them what was discovered was the moment our technologies viewing functions exceeded the speed of light it thus we saw things invisible at the speed of light and because beyond the speed of light does not support material structure , what we saw is not touchable in the normal sensory capacity of understanding but these faster than light structures and the dimensions that contain them do cause visible effects upon and within our material dimension which is functioning at light speed thus contains units of matter Truth. Perhaps our brains can project frequencies into these faster-than-light dimensions and thus we affect them, which in turn affects our material dimension. This may be how mere thoughts can contribute to the "structure" of reality. - The Spider Kid |
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| Triscuit User ID: 7007541 United States08/29/2013 05:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hey Kai, Your thread is Coinciding with my perspective quite nicely. Had an experience of the void a few weeks ago. The infinite space was quite strange. And it was quite startling to see external consciousness begin to reflect in their demeanor my inner state. If I was confused they were confused, If loving and supporting they acted loving. However The space was so large and the unknowing of the relative consciousness so great, The only real thing I could thing to do was... To do the most exciting thing that I could think of at any moment. The power seemed boring if not given away to enjoy the excitement of unfolding Self In the beginning it was quite intense so excitement was drink water, eat cheese, and go pee. It felt like there was so much happiness and infinity to be had that there was nothing better to be doing than what I was doing right then, nothing to change, even though I felt/knew I had to power to do anything. Dualities like good/evil vanished but love and compassion still remained. The notion of spreading the "Gospel/Dharma" made more sense to me. The dream surreal quality was quite strange. My wife entered the void the exact same moment as myself, and we existed as one another, and it was very amusing to experience this double perspective on different sides of the room. It felt like I kept forgetting and getting drawn into doubt and uncertainty and confusion and when I focused on love and compassion and self it strengthened the dissolving knowing. Almost like "Hahaha how could you think it was any other way, sooooo obvious" Quite teh Lulz ....The Universe is a game of relativity....pure subjective perspective.... what you focus on spirals out more and more to encompass your reality. Thusly, after my experience a new book become exceedingly relative to my perspective..... [link to www.amazon.com] Book Description: "Here is an account of the enlightenment experience and its consequences written by a trained philosopher and mathematician who is also a master of English prose. After formal education in philosophy and mathematics at Stanford and Harvard, Wolff devoted himself to the goal of transcending the normal limits of human consciousness. Merrell-Wolff experienced enlightenment, became established in the state, and wrote clearly about the value and nature of the knowledge he attained. This is a record of transformation in consciousness written during the actual process itself, supplying an unusually intimate view. The author faces the epistemological problem directly--the problem of demonstrating the reality and value of knowledge springing from mystical roots. He gives serious attention to the philosophical and psychological criticism, writing with an eye to the pitfalls indicated by such criticism. He did not write only for those who believe easily." I am very much looking forward to discussing the void as the cross transference of Knowing and relative consciousness strengthens and perchance to develop a new language/logic/symbolism that will allow the transference of concepts from cosmic/4D/transcendental consciousness to subject-object/3D consciousness I hope you'll stick around :) |
| Kai (VALIS) (OP) User ID: 25570375 United States08/30/2013 12:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hey Kai, Quoting: Triscuit 7007541 Your thread is Coinciding with my perspective quite nicely. Had an experience of the void a few weeks ago. The infinite space was quite strange. And it was quite startling to see external consciousness begin to reflect in their demeanor my inner state. If I was confused they were confused, If loving and supporting they acted loving. However The space was so large and the unknowing of the relative consciousness so great, The only real thing I could thing to do was... To do the most exciting thing that I could think of at any moment. The power seemed boring if not given away to enjoy the excitement of unfolding Self In the beginning it was quite intense so excitement was drink water, eat cheese, and go pee. It felt like there was so much happiness and infinity to be had that there was nothing better to be doing than what I was doing right then, nothing to change, even though I felt/knew I had to power to do anything. Dualities like good/evil vanished but love and compassion still remained. The notion of spreading the "Gospel/Dharma" made more sense to me. The dream surreal quality was quite strange. My wife entered the void the exact same moment as myself, and we existed as one another, and it was very amusing to experience this double perspective on different sides of the room. It felt like I kept forgetting and getting drawn into doubt and uncertainty and confusion and when I focused on love and compassion and self it strengthened the dissolving knowing. Almost like "Hahaha how could you think it was any other way, sooooo obvious" Quite teh Lulz ....The Universe is a game of relativity....pure subjective perspective.... what you focus on spirals out more and more to encompass your reality. Thusly, after my experience a new book become exceedingly relative to my perspective..... [link to www.amazon.com] Book Description: "Here is an account of the enlightenment experience and its consequences written by a trained philosopher and mathematician who is also a master of English prose. After formal education in philosophy and mathematics at Stanford and Harvard, Wolff devoted himself to the goal of transcending the normal limits of human consciousness. Merrell-Wolff experienced enlightenment, became established in the state, and wrote clearly about the value and nature of the knowledge he attained. This is a record of transformation in consciousness written during the actual process itself, supplying an unusually intimate view. The author faces the epistemological problem directly--the problem of demonstrating the reality and value of knowledge springing from mystical roots. He gives serious attention to the philosophical and psychological criticism, writing with an eye to the pitfalls indicated by such criticism. He did not write only for those who believe easily." I am very much looking forward to discussing the void as the cross transference of Knowing and relative consciousness strengthens and perchance to develop a new language/logic/symbolism that will allow the transference of concepts from cosmic/4D/transcendental consciousness to subject-object/3D consciousness I hope you'll stick around :) This sounds EXTREMELY similar to my experience. You articulate your thoughts very well. - The Spider Kid |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 44140691 United States08/30/2013 01:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes. We begin to see dimensions as any system of viewing reality which can be classified as different from any other system of viewing reality. Therefor, infinite dimensions arise within all realities. We can see that there are modes of viewing just within this "normal" universe which we previously were unaware of. well , if we use the same system of viewing for all that we see , our 21st century technology confirms that there are measurable non material dimensions and those dimensions contain measurable units/structures within them what was discovered was the moment our technologies viewing functions exceeded the speed of light it thus we saw things invisible at the speed of light and because beyond the speed of light does not support material structure , what we saw is not touchable in the normal sensory capacity of understanding but these faster than light structures and the dimensions that contain them do cause visible effects upon and within our material dimension which is functioning at light speed thus contains units of matter Truth. Perhaps our brains can project frequencies into these faster-than-light dimensions and thus we affect them, which in turn affects our material dimension. This may be how mere thoughts can contribute to the "structure" of reality. Damn!...nice posts... |
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| aether User ID: 45632418 United Kingdom08/30/2013 01:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes. We begin to see dimensions as any system of viewing reality which can be classified as different from any other system of viewing reality. Therefor, infinite dimensions arise within all realities. We can see that there are modes of viewing just within this "normal" universe which we previously were unaware of. well , if we use the same system of viewing for all that we see , our 21st century technology confirms that there are measurable non material dimensions and those dimensions contain measurable units/structures within them what was discovered was the moment our technologies viewing functions exceeded the speed of light it thus we saw things invisible at the speed of light and because beyond the speed of light does not support material structure , what we saw is not touchable in the normal sensory capacity of understanding but these faster than light structures and the dimensions that contain them do cause visible effects upon and within our material dimension which is functioning at light speed thus contains units of matter Truth. Perhaps our brains can project frequencies into these faster-than-light dimensions and thus we affect them, which in turn affects our material dimension. This may be how mere thoughts can contribute to the "structure" of reality. yes, with that in mind when los alamos tell us that 99.999% of our visible universe (matter) is in a plasma state and it has been discovered the nature of plasma is self organizing [link to en.wikipedia.org] we may consider the notion that our material dimension and all within it is visible to our senses because it self organizes to make it so and the reason it self organizes is not a mystery to us in how it does so if that /z\ is true, we may consider the notion why it does so |
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| orpheuskingstone User ID: 42108372 United States08/30/2013 12:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes. We begin to see dimensions as any system of viewing reality which can be classified as different from any other system of viewing reality. Therefor, infinite dimensions arise within all realities. We can see that there are modes of viewing just within this "normal" universe which we previously were unaware of. well , if we use the same system of viewing for all that we see , our 21st century technology confirms that there are measurable non material dimensions and those dimensions contain measurable units/structures within them what was discovered was the moment our technologies viewing functions exceeded the speed of light it thus we saw things invisible at the speed of light and because beyond the speed of light does not support material structure , what we saw is not touchable in the normal sensory capacity of understanding but these faster than light structures and the dimensions that contain them do cause visible effects upon and within our material dimension which is functioning at light speed thus contains units of matter Truth. Perhaps our brains can project frequencies into these faster-than-light dimensions and thus we affect them, which in turn affects our material dimension. This may be how mere thoughts can contribute to the "structure" of reality. yes, with that in mind when los alamos tell us that 99.999% of our visible universe (matter) is in a plasma state and it has been discovered the nature of plasma is self organizing [link to en.wikipedia.org] we may consider the notion that our material dimension and all within it is visible to our senses because it self organizes to make it so and the reason it self organizes is not a mystery to us in how it does so if that /z\ is true, we may consider the notion why it does so hey aether, how does it feel being a vampire? only the song of silence soothes every soul. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 40120107 United States08/30/2013 08:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: spirals never wrote or implied they were. want to point where that is specifically? also, i have no fear except for a healthy one of disappointing God. You are missing the point. The people who are experiencing the void and want help are those who are experiencing fear and uncertainty. They are inhabiting a place where it can seem that nothing is certain. It is a place where, when we go there, we can often feel alone and without hope. It is good to have someone who can relate and offer guidance. I would've wanted it when I experienced this place for the first time. you are avoiding addressing the reality of evil. why? this is seems to be some kind of personal issue with you somehow. why? "Evil" is a word we use to describe antagonistic forces. These forces manifest through the actions of sentient creatures. But evil is an obscure concept. Generally speaking, people who commit negative acts do not get defined as evil. But these acts are going on all around us. So what do we define as "evil?" We seem to reserve the highest level of judgement to those who take life. And yet, (during war, for example) taking a life is acceptable to us. And then there is sickness. A person who hears voices and believes those voices are coming form a higher source. If those voices tell said person to commit a heinous act and the person complies, are they evil? What if they believe that doing so is the only possible way to save the world? This person is not evil. They are very sick and unable to utilize their "moral compass." AND MOST PEOPLE WHO COMMIT "EVIL" ACTS FIT INTO THIS CATEGORY. You, yourself, claim that your god is the only force which is capable of proper judgement. And yet you are full of judgement yourself. I do not see this as evil. I see it as misguidance. Na man, evil is when an entity knows more than another, and deliberately causes fear, pain, a sense of uselessness. Evil is the owner that beats the dog just to see it cower, starves the kid just to see it suffer. There is no mis understanding, the evil ones know exactly what they are doing, and they relish in the discomfort that they cause others. What you are talking about are entities that do not know how they affect others. They cannot do evil because they do not understand what mindsets they are forcing others into. But the folks that tricked innocent beings into causing pain and suffering know without a doubt what they are doing, and they are far from love and nurture. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 10204435 United States08/30/2013 08:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have only been there once in my 30 years on earth so far. Unfortunately is was hallucinagenically induced....not something I do often at all or care to. I found it easy to navigate when there though. I downloaded everything i could when i was there...but i am due for an upgrade.Any tips on how to get there again without star fungus is appreciated. Quoting: Integrity101  Sleep deprivation is the #1 key. Though I do not necessarily RECOMMEND this. Most who have been would rather not have gone. But I am like you. I revel in it. And when I am not there, I wish to go back. Dreams. That's the open channel. I go every night and am telling you flat out that my dream world trumps my waking world. It is, in fact, REALITY. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 29203778 Italy08/30/2013 08:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ...All proceedings founded on the void judgment are themselves regarded as invalid. A void judgment is regarded as a nullity, and the situation is the same as it would be if there were no judgment. It is attended by none of the consequences of a valid adjudication. It has no legal or binding force or efficacy for any purpose or at any place. ... It is not entitled to enforcement. 30A Am Jur Judgments '' 43, 44, 45. Henderson v. Henderson, 232 NC 380, 100 SE2d 227. See Restatement, Judgments, ' 8. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 29203778 Italy08/30/2013 09:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | >>my dream world trumps my waking world<< I like it there myself too but sometimes the "real world" is nice. I dont do the sleep deprivation but Im guessing that what happens is your dreamworld and waking one combine. that could be interesting with a loving helper or quite deadly without one I would think. |
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| aether User ID: 45632418 United Kingdom08/30/2013 09:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | yeah, we're all friends here, the ones that dont think so just may not have realized it yet. sometimes it is realy hard to imagine though. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29203778 have any good voidance today Kai? Coming soon. Just leaving work. Hard to speak void on iPhone. hi kai staying within our material dimension, current best estimates by our authorities is there are between 1 trillion and 3 trillion planets in our galaxy and up to 1 trillion galaxies in our observable section of our universe looking at what we are considering on your topic, the void if there is but 1 other something outside of gaia`s domain (magnetosphere) that is looking at our material dimension in similar manner to you and i are this moment, they may form the notion that their thoughts and our thoughts possess a medium and mechanism to meet, without ourselves physically meeting because the interaction you are describing for people of gaia and the void , by default, applies to the other somethings within the same material dimension as ourselves whom possess thought similar to ourselves at this moment as in: thought that sees what we see Last Edited by aether on 08/30/2013 09:34 PM |
