NEW Illionois Law Makes FLICKING CIGarette BUTTS a FELONY - $25,000 Fine Plus Jail Time | |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 45655842 United States 08/29/2013 10:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Im an avid smoker and I hate flicking an end. I put it out on the bottom of my shoe or the ground and stuff it in my pocket. Normally the ones I have in my pocket I take what little tobacco is left and make a smoke in my cigarette maker. You SHOULD be fined for doing in MY OPINION but that type of fine and PRISON sentence is insanity at least. |
R.P. McMurphy User ID: 45419220 United States 08/29/2013 10:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | HA HA! I don't smoke anymore. So puff on that, Illinois. Seriously, it seems like every damn year we have a fire here in Az. because some thoughtless twit tossed a smoldering cigarette out the window. Even when I smoked, I practiced the U.S. Army method of cigarette disposal. Extinguish it, field strip it, then put it in your pocket. Last Edited by Mike Ehrmantraut on 08/29/2013 10:30 PM "Moral of the story is I chose a half measure when I should have gone all the way. I'll never make that mistake again. ==== ESTJ-a (Executive) 93% Extroverted, 82% Observant, 83% Thinking, 82% Judging,72% Assertive ==== |
Jay Walker User ID: 45986548 United States 08/29/2013 10:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: Butt Head 45986548:MV8yMzM2OTQ5XzM5ODkxNjgzXifM2RDE4OTEw Dont remember talking about second hand smoke, tho If you think having smoke in one's lungs isnt bad for them then youre a moron. Instead I remember talking about cigarette smoke being fuckong disgusting and smokers thinking that their pathetic addiction makes it ok for them to litter their nicotine soaked buts. The second hand smoke propaganda is stupidly extreme!! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 40007456 United States 08/29/2013 10:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Im an avid smoker and I hate flicking an end. I put it out on the bottom of my shoe or the ground and stuff it in my pocket. Normally the ones I have in my pocket I take what little tobacco is left and make a smoke in my cigarette maker. You SHOULD be fined for doing in MY OPINION but that type of fine and PRISON sentence is insanity at least. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45655842 Ah, reasonable smokers. Thank you :) |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 44944489 United States 08/29/2013 10:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Fire Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14965262 [link to www.youtube.com] These butts start fires. Up until this last rain we had in Chicago area the place was really dry People throw the burning butts out the window and into the woodchips and they start on fire. See 2 or 3 smoldering woodchips near malls a week sometimes because of people throwing cigs out the window. This aint Kansas anymore folks we is Arizona here in Chicago when we aint got no rain. no offense "but" that shithole chicago should be burned down and repopulated with americans |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 22958406 United States 08/29/2013 10:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Im an avid smoker and I hate flicking an end. I put it out on the bottom of my shoe or the ground and stuff it in my pocket. Normally the ones I have in my pocket I take what little tobacco is left and make a smoke in my cigarette maker. You SHOULD be fined for doing in MY OPINION but that type of fine and PRISON sentence is insanity at least. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45655842 Ah, reasonable smokers. Thank you :) Agreed, those who can indulge without creating a problem for others should be acknowledged. A tip of the hat to you! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 41641710 United States 08/29/2013 10:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I realise they could start fires this is overkill, jail time? That will fill the jails up with innocents like in the 19th century and before. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45720569 If you flick a damn cigarette butt and cause a fucking wildfire your as guilty as if you drink and drive or fire a fucking gun up in the air. Negligence isn't a criminal defense. What are the odds that I, or someone else, can find something that YOU do, irritating, irresponsible, or just plain nasty? Hmmm? I'd say the odds are pretty damned good, and if they made what you do a felony, you'd be pissed/butt hurt, or say "That's going overboard". I REST MY CASE............. |
Arcana User ID: 39935861 United States 08/29/2013 10:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's because of the potential risk of wildfire. Frankly, 25k is getting off light. If you're soul reason for having "live free or die" as a mantra is so you can flick your cigs, then you're a complete waste of breath. Quoting: TheShoveler(AmJedi) It's not only inconsiderate, it can cost someone their life. So spare me the 'police state' horseshit on this one. Sort of like DUI laws... "You hurt no one, but you MIGHT have, so we get to steal your money and ruin your life." And it's "sole," not "soul." |
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Big Drag User ID: 45986548 United States 08/29/2013 10:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's because of the potential risk of wildfire. Frankly, 25k is getting off light. If you're soul reason for having "live free or die" as a mantra is so you can flick your cigs, then you're a complete waste of breath. Quoting: TheShoveler(AmJedi) It's not only inconsiderate, it can cost someone their life. So spare me the 'police state' horseshit on this one. Sort of like DUI laws... "You hurt no one, but you MIGHT have, so we get to steal your money and ruin your life." And it's "sole," not "soul." All in the name of generating revenue. Fucking robbery!!! |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 21201441 United States 08/29/2013 10:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | HA HA! Quoting: R.P. McMurphy I don't smoke anymore. So puff on that, Illinois. Seriously, it seems like every damn year we have a fire here in Az. because some thoughtless twit tossed a smoldering cigarette out the window. Even when I smoked, I practiced the U.S. Army method of cigarette disposal. Extinguish it, field strip it, then put it in your pocket. Earlier this year, where I live in San Diego County - we had like 1-2 fires a day along the highway due to just this reason - they kept on having to come out and put out the fires day after day, until finally all the bit of grass along the highway was gone, then they got to go back to their playing cards and ribs. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 45655842 United States 08/29/2013 10:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Im an avid smoker and I hate flicking an end. I put it out on the bottom of my shoe or the ground and stuff it in my pocket. Normally the ones I have in my pocket I take what little tobacco is left and make a smoke in my cigarette maker. You SHOULD be fined for doing in MY OPINION but that type of fine and PRISON sentence is insanity at least. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45655842 Ah, reasonable smokers. Thank you :) Agreed, those who can indulge without creating a problem for others should be acknowledged. A tip of the hat to you! Thanks guys. I just see it as an act of character and me being a cheap ass. lol What pack I can purchase I rather no squander. 9 times out of 10 there is still plenty of usable tobacco left inside of a cigarette. Newport 100's for example; those have a rediculous amount of tobacco inside past the green line because the actual filter is smaller than some other brands. Hell, I'll snatch smokes at gas stations and stores, rip off the filter piece and keep the rest. Its not like anything past the filter was touched, let alone INSIDE the paper wrapping. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 22958406 United States 08/29/2013 10:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I realise they could start fires this is overkill, jail time? That will fill the jails up with innocents like in the 19th century and before. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45720569 If you flick a damn cigarette butt and cause a fucking wildfire your as guilty as if you drink and drive or fire a fucking gun up in the air. Negligence isn't a criminal defense. What are the odds that I, or someone else, can find something that YOU do, irritating, irresponsible, or just plain nasty? Hmmm? I'd say the odds are pretty damned good, and if they made what you do a felony, you'd be pissed/butt hurt, or say "That's going overboard". I REST MY CASE............. Hey, if your case can be made that their offending behavior is prevalent everywhere and has the ability to destroy personal property then you've made a believer of me. If your case rests on their pitchy singing of "Proud Mary" in their shower then move along. |
Butt Head User ID: 45986548 United States 08/29/2013 10:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's because of the potential risk of wildfire. Frankly, 25k is getting off light. If you're soul reason for having "live free or die" as a mantra is so you can flick your cigs, then you're a complete waste of breath. Quoting: TheShoveler(AmJedi) It's not only inconsiderate, it can cost someone their life. So spare me the 'police state' horseshit on this one. Sort of like DUI laws... "You hurt no one, but you MIGHT have, so we get to steal your money and ruin your life." And it's "sole," not "soul." All in the name of generating revenue. Fucking robbery!!! Next it will be farting!! Bad for the environment! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 22958406 United States 08/29/2013 10:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Fucking good. Best news of the day. I cant stand people showing such little regard for mother nature. Its bad enough we rape the land everywhere we go. Filthy fucking pigs that cant be bothered picking up the shit makes me so cranky. Quoting: Ozi 45982881 Oh good, the trolls from Oz will keep this going. Carry on! Smoke me you weak cunt! Oh, you make me moist enough to put out a lit cigarette. You rascal! |
Interested_1 User ID: 30318195 United States 08/29/2013 10:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Now that you flicked a butt and are a felon we take your guns and you can never own a gun!!!! We will legislate every citizen into a felon! All you bastards are lawbreakers and damn you all to hell! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43157020 ^^this^^ and I think you guys are missing the point... Simple crime, most do it, but... Felons can't vote. Note that your vote counts, but would really help this voting thing we see every 4 years. Just my 2 cents. Quoting: LightOfZen ^^this.^^ Think about it...this is one of those arguments a reasonable person just couldn't argue against criminalizing. But a FELONY??? Think about the consequences. Me...eh...I'd just rather cruise down the freeway and fantasize about squirting any butt-tossing bastard with my super soaker which, conveniently, is filled with gasoline. Take the red pill now...later it will come as a suppository. |
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Sikhed User ID: 45987786 United States 08/29/2013 10:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No way. This is a police state plan. Plain & simple. You may not like cigarette smokers, that's fine. But this is obviously an unjust law. And if this law gets enforced, it is guaranteed there will be more like this, and soon everyone will be a felon, including you. Illinois also has the 3-strike rule. 3rd conviction and it's life without parole. :doom360: |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 45988166 United States 08/29/2013 10:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you toss your butts on the ground then you should be charged with your standard littering violation. Though I think you should spend 120 hours of community service picking up nothing but cigarette butts. To single out one piece of litter above all others is nothing but a political agenda at work. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 45988166 United States 08/29/2013 10:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | At $50/carton of cigarettes, you'd think people would eat the butt after smoking the motherfucker... Quoting: BRIEF 50dollar thats cheap.. 43 here... Depending on brand...you can get some cheap ACE smokes for like 28/Carton my way. I think it runs around high thirties for Marlboro. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 22958406 United States 08/29/2013 10:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Now that you flicked a butt and are a felon we take your guns and you can never own a gun!!!! We will legislate every citizen into a felon! All you bastards are lawbreakers and damn you all to hell! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43157020 ^^this^^ and I think you guys are missing the point... Simple crime, most do it, but... Felons can't vote. Note that your vote counts, but would really help this voting thing we see every 4 years. Just my 2 cents. Quoting: LightOfZen ^^this.^^ Think about it...this is one of those arguments a reasonable person just couldn't argue against criminalizing. But a FELONY??? Think about the consequences. Me...eh...I'd just rather cruise down the freeway and fantasize about squirting any butt-tossing bastard with my super soaker which, conveniently, is filled with gasoline. I've already expressed my opinion that this was overbearing but as a community, smokers need to realize that their behavior is not going to be overlooked anymore. Surely this should not be a felony offense and you can make a case that there is a political motivation for putting such a law in place... BUT SMOKERS BEHAVIOR OPENS THEM TO THESE KIND OF ATTACKS! |