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The RELIGION of the ILLUMINATI!!!...this is how it ROLLS....be warned...you may have your eyes opened.

 
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"Because basically, its dark blackmail...a work of sinsiter and callous darkness..the use of force and threats..the promise of unmitigated and remorseless torment of the most satanically and unspeakable horror..as their stories of hell convey..dredge up from a mind SO EVIL and COLD..that it would think NOTHING..except a smug arrogant self satisfied joy..at the slaughter and torment of ordinary humans..whos only crime was to be born AGAINST their wishes..into dark world..where pain rules and injustice reigns."

This doesn't sound like a deep research... more like a religious fearmongering christian-style.
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EXATLY.

NOW you are getting it.

WHO would use a tool like that??

WHO would find it USEFUL???
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I was quoting you. And what I quoted is an opinion - not a deep research.

Okay to verify your claim I have a very simple and basic question. If you can answer it - that means you do know what you are talking about. If you don't - you give us only speculations and your opinion on the subject. Again - this is a VERY basic question and it could be answered in just one sentence of 20-30 words at most.

What is the basic construction of the Holy Grail stories? Like how and why are they constructed that way and what the construction looks like?
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Not really.

When you condsider that the illuminati control all religion and USE it as a means of control.

They serve a dark master so anything they propogate is always bases on total control and fear.

All religions are great tools for this end.

The illuminati dont follow the religion themselves but they do use it to keep mankind divided and thus easier to control.

A population bound in fear and control is easier to eliminate and manage.

Now do you get it?

Its their tool.
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You don't know what you are talking about... I will say it again - see who Plato, Pythagoras, Galileo, etc were. The whole illuminati conspiracy is backed by religious sources and uninformed people. The divide and conquer tactic is used by the elite - the Old World Order (the one we are living in right now). The illuminati and illuminati-like groups are revolutionaries trying to implement a New World Order that is not based on control by the few super-rich. To achieve this they (and we) need to overthrow the current order. The term "New World Order" is used by the elite to discredit its true meaning. What "evil new world order with total domination and surveilance" do you expect? IT IS RIGHT HERE RIGHT NOW and it has been for centuries. For centuries the people were ruled by a few - this is not NEW it is OLD - the OLD world order. Get your facts straight before (un)intentionally defending the status quo of the current elite.
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How was I defending these creeps?

I dont follow your logic.

I was merley stating that the elite USE religion to their OWN ends.

Even you agree with that.

Whatever gives them power and control is what they use.

There is BIG POWER in religion and it gives them GREAT control.

How can you not see it?
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Now this is something different. Just research some more and you will see that the illuminati are not the elite. The facts are everywhere. And yes - this "evil illuminati" conspiracy is part of the OWO plan to discredit any attempt of getting the elite out of the game.
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Who will win at the end?
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"Because basically, its dark blackmail...a work of sinsiter and callous darkness..the use of force and threats..the promise of unmitigated and remorseless torment of the most satanically and unspeakable horror..as their stories of hell convey..dredge up from a mind SO EVIL and COLD..that it would think NOTHING..except a smug arrogant self satisfied joy..at the slaughter and torment of ordinary humans..whos only crime was to be born AGAINST their wishes..into dark world..where pain rules and injustice reigns."

This doesn't sound like a deep research... more like a religious fearmongering christian-style.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37159590


EXATLY.

NOW you are getting it.

WHO would use a tool like that??

WHO would find it USEFUL???
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46006572



I was quoting you. And what I quoted is an opinion - not a deep research.

Okay to verify your claim I have a very simple and basic question. If you can answer it - that means you do know what you are talking about. If you don't - you give us only speculations and your opinion on the subject. Again - this is a VERY basic question and it could be answered in just one sentence of 20-30 words at most.

What is the basic construction of the Holy Grail stories? Like how and why are they constructed that way and what the construction looks like?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37159590


Research is far more than knowing stories.

SO I quote some stories and what I think they mean.

What of it?

That too..as you say..would be "Opinion" and I am not into stories or opinions.

I stick with facts..and what IS..not what might be..or could be..or even what should be.

I see the larger picture...from the beginning to its end.

From the times of the old ones to the end of this epoch.

Its all laid out before me.

What is to come is already determined.

And the grail???

HAHA...yes...an interesting sidetrack and a mssterpiece of the moulding of the minds of humanity.

Keep them thinking up the wrong tree..keep them looking under the wrong rocks..and make a mythos out of it...create a society around it...get the templars all fired up. It worked well to..and still does. The fact that you mention it is proof enough of that.

Its the same technique thats been around since Nimrod.
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I don't think Jesus died for grins...and I don't think his disciples followed him for that either.

There is a bible passage that says, "Come out of her".

Jesus knew it would get to that point...some of us want to go to church again because worship is important but we don't...it seems almost pointless at this time in history because they hold the tax exempt thing over their heads if they say the wrong thing or say something politically incorrect.

There is a supernatural hate for Jesus that is unreal. People that have been possessed by demons can be heard saying unthinkable things regarding Jesus. It's real.
Now why do you think that is? Make no mistake - there is a battle for your soul. You may not understand it, believe it or acknowledge it...but there is. This is how it rolls.
Eternity is a very very very long time....it's your choice.
Choose today and harden not your hearts...you may not have tomorrow.
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Who will win at the end?
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That depends on if the people will finally believe in themselves and overthrow the current hierarchical, based on hereditary privileges system (both religious and social), or they will continue to be diverted by its very rulers.
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I don't think Jesus died for grins...and I don't think his disciples followed him for that either.

There is a bible passage that says, "Come out of her".

Jesus knew it would get to that point...some of us want to go to church again because worship is important but we don't...it seems almost pointless at this time in history because they hold the tax exempt thing over their heads if they say the wrong thing or say something politically incorrect.

There is a supernatural hate for Jesus that is unreal. People that have been possessed by demons can be heard saying unthinkable things regarding Jesus. It's real.
Now why do you think that is? Make no mistake - there is a battle for your soul. You may not understand it, believe it or acknowledge it...but there is. This is how it rolls.
Eternity is a very very very long time....it's your choice.
Choose today and harden not your hearts...you may not have tomorrow.
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Want to see typical hell screamer christian LOVE??

Here..read this..

It clearly shows who they TRULY SERVE..


you know what? fuck you op.. enjoy your end mother fucker.. like i will also enjoy mine.. at least im not going out hating away and all miserable asshole like you man.. i wrote a nice long post for you above but you just ignored it and went on and on with your stupid hate filled nonsense so from god to you is a big FUCK YOU DIE CUNT.. and you know what you only have it coming cause your the fucker asshole your the shit head your the loser who has failed upon every chance you where given and then you still find someone else to blame for your own short comings and you still find some one else to blame for your own hate filled bull shit and you still try and push your agenda and look for sympathy from others when youv had it much easier than many many many on this planet and all you did was fuck up and fuck up and fuck over and over and over until you realized that your nothing more than the cursed dickhead you are.. and you know what above i wrote that god loves you and god is good and god is great but as asshole rat like you doesnt get to see or experience that because you are a rotten piece of shit and you only get back what you put out there all along.. and no none of it was good and none of it was right.. and no you are not a good person no you are not a worthy person and no you are not even worth anything in the eyes of the lord and i can assure you that no body else needs to tell you just how fucked up you are compared to the real people of this world.. so fuck and at least die with a little dignity instead of going out like the loser you came in as..
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Research is far more than knowing stories.

SO I quote some stories and what I think they mean.

What of it?

That too..as you say..would be "Opinion" and I am not into stories or opinions.

I stick with facts..and what IS..not what might be..or could be..or even what should be.

I see the larger picture...from the beginning to its end.

From the times of the old ones to the end of this epoch.

Its all laid out before me.

What is to come is already determined.

And the grail???

HAHA...yes...an interesting sidetrack and a mssterpiece of the moulding of the minds of humanity.

Keep them thinking up the wrong tree..keep them looking under the wrong rocks..and make a mythos out of it...create a society around it...get the templars all fired up. It worked well to..and still does. The fact that you mention it is proof enough of that.

Its the same technique thats been around since Nimrod.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46006572



I'm not asking for the content - it's allegorical. I am asking you what the construct of these allegories look like. How the stories/myths are put together and why? Yes it had a purpose. If you have *researched* so deep as you claim, you will know the answer to this BASIC question. It is no more than 30 words long.
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I don't think Jesus died for grins...and I don't think his disciples followed him for that either.

There is a bible passage that says, "Come out of her".

Jesus knew it would get to that point...some of us want to go to church again because worship is important but we don't...it seems almost pointless at this time in history because they hold the tax exempt thing over their heads if they say the wrong thing or say something politically incorrect.

There is a supernatural hate for Jesus that is unreal. People that have been possessed by demons can be heard saying unthinkable things regarding Jesus. It's real.
Now why do you think that is? Make no mistake - there is a battle for your soul. You may not understand it, believe it or acknowledge it...but there is. This is how it rolls.
Eternity is a very very very long time....it's your choice.
Choose today and harden not your hearts...you may not have tomorrow.
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This is the bible version of the carpenter. He was just a guy preaching his own thoughts like many others of his time. Then you have the Council of Nicea mixing some pagan mithraism, judaism, zoroastrism, etc, etc, etc, and voila - you have a new dogmatic and nonsense religion.
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That about sums up all mainstream religions on this planet, who would have thought...

Oh wait, anyone with some working braincells do. iamwith

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I don't think Jesus died for grins...and I don't think his disciples followed him for that either.

There is a bible passage that says, "Come out of her".

Jesus knew it would get to that point...some of us want to go to church again because worship is important but we don't...it seems almost pointless at this time in history because they hold the tax exempt thing over their heads if they say the wrong thing or say something politically incorrect.

There is a supernatural hate for Jesus that is unreal. People that have been possessed by demons can be heard saying unthinkable things regarding Jesus. It's real.
Now why do you think that is? Make no mistake - there is a battle for your soul. You may not understand it, believe it or acknowledge it...but there is. This is how it rolls.
Eternity is a very very very long time....it's your choice.
Choose today and harden not your hearts...you may not have tomorrow.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34104390


Want to see typical hell screamer christian LOVE??

Here..read this..

It clearly shows who they TRULY SERVE..

you know what? fuck you op.. enjoy your end mother fucker.. like i will also enjoy mine.. at least im not going out hating away and all miserable asshole like you man.. i wrote a nice long post for you above but you just ignored it and went on and on with your stupid hate filled nonsense so from god to you is a big FUCK YOU DIE CUNT.. and you know what you only have it coming cause your the fucker asshole your the shit head your the loser who has failed upon every chance you where given and then you still find someone else to blame for your own short comings and you still find some one else to blame for your own hate filled bull shit and you still try and push your agenda and look for sympathy from others when youv had it much easier than many many many on this planet and all you did was fuck up and fuck up and fuck over and over and over until you realized that your nothing more than the cursed dickhead you are.. and you know what above i wrote that god loves you and god is good and god is great but as asshole rat like you doesnt get to see or experience that because you are a rotten piece of shit and you only get back what you put out there all along.. and no none of it was good and none of it was right.. and no you are not a good person no you are not a worthy person and no you are not even worth anything in the eyes of the lord and i can assure you that no body else needs to tell you just how fucked up you are compared to the real people of this world.. so fuck and at least die with a little dignity instead of going out like the loser you came in as..
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That about sums up all mainstream religions on this planet, who would have thought...

Oh wait, anyone with some working braincells do. iamwith
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Thats what flouride is for..and all those hypnotic chant like songs in church and the big flashy light show screens they now have.

Its all HYPNOTISM.
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You know those Russian Doll that are all hidden one in another, you keep opening on and finding another, that is what the Grail story are some what like. It send people looking in the wrong place. When what they are looking far has already been told. It is to get them to run all over the place thinking they could find another truth. When it is right in front of them. Just like the other group!
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You know those Russian Doll that are all hidden one in another, you keep opening on and finding another, that is what the Grail story are some what like. It send people looking in the wrong place. When what they are looking far has already been told. It is to get them to run all over the place thinking they could find another truth. When it is right in front of them. Just like the other group!
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Nope... It's much more straightforward than that, yet their construction have a specific purpose (hint: the purpose is not "to get them to run all over the place thinking they could find another truth").

So...? What is the basic construct of these stories? How are they organized and put together. Anybody who can answer this BASIC question will prove (to some degree, of course) that he/she has a deeper understanding of what the Illuminati really are.
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EVIL satanic blackmailers who are controlled agents (And dont even KNOW it)of the illuminati use THESE techniques...

Illuminati "Religion" goes thusly...

1) They are ALL convinced THEY are right and all the others are wrong.

2)They are all certain..and voice this much and as often as thay can..that the ones who are "Wrong" will be tortured forever by whatever brand of bi polar sadistic god they worship.

3)They all use fear and terror to control their members
EG:-"Do as this law/teaching/guru/pastor/book/priest/sermon ect suggests or you will be cursed/burned alive forever/smitten/come under demonic attack/end up possessed/ ect.

4)They are all about CONTROL..control of your money..of your mind..of your actions/words/life and they all impose guilt and fear as "punishment" if you dont tow the line.

5)They are all about money..it always comes down to CASH..and if you dont hand it over they label you a "God robber"..you are robbing God..and thus come under the punishments/threats made in point 3.

6)They all use "LOVE" as the bait to get you in..mixed with "Fear" of some sort of terrible DOOM if you dont join them. Then once they have you the LOVE stops..and the DOOM increases..till you are left a mindless fear controlled zombie..arrogant and proud and self righteous..and the victim..who then being fully "Indoctrinated" after a time...then beleives point 1 completely..and proceesd to inflict steps 2 to 5 on other prospective victims.

Any religion or creed thast uses these techniques are opertaing under the precepts of what you would term "Darkness"..or "Evil" because evil, by its very nature, runs and feeds and grows stronger on fear and control.
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Take religion out of it and it sounds a hell of a lot like academia..
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EVIL satanic blackmailers who are controlled agents (And dont even KNOW it)of the illuminati use THESE techniques...

Illuminati "Religion" goes thusly...

1) They are ALL convinced THEY are right and all the others are wrong.

2)They are all certain..and voice this much and as often as thay can..that the ones who are "Wrong" will be tortured forever by whatever brand of bi polar sadistic god they worship.

3)They all use fear and terror to control their members
EG:-"Do as this law/teaching/guru/pastor/book/priest/sermon ect suggests or you will be cursed/burned alive forever/smitten/come under demonic attack/end up possessed/ ect.

4)They are all about CONTROL..control of your money..of your mind..of your actions/words/life and they all impose guilt and fear as "punishment" if you dont tow the line.

5)They are all about money..it always comes down to CASH..and if you dont hand it over they label you a "God robber"..you are robbing God..and thus come under the punishments/threats made in point 3.

6)They all use "LOVE" as the bait to get you in..mixed with "Fear" of some sort of terrible DOOM if you dont join them. Then once they have you the LOVE stops..and the DOOM increases..till you are left a mindless fear controlled zombie..arrogant and proud and self righteous..and the victim..who then being fully "Indoctrinated" after a time...then beleives point 1 completely..and proceesd to inflict steps 2 to 5 on other prospective victims.

Any religion or creed thast uses these techniques are opertaing under the precepts of what you would term "Darkness"..or "Evil" because evil, by its very nature, runs and feeds and grows stronger on fear and control.
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Take religion out of it and it sounds a hell of a lot like academia..
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Thats because at its root is the same old problem the human race has always had.

PRIDE.

And the never ending fight for the "Right" to be "Right"...
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Man, are you in for a shock.
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Ahh yes..the eye of RA....from the religion that CREATED the myth of hellfire.

Mystery babylon..mother of harlots.

Goes way way back.
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babylon was never a mystery
Put a lion in a cage for years without food and watch what happens.
Its appetite will of cause grow and grow, and then you point your finger at its hunger?

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