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The Israeli Intel report on the Syria chem attack, what will it contain?

 
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The Israeli Intel report on the Syria chem attack, what will it contain?
Israel is baiting us into war with their "intelligence", I can assure you it's relatively easy to make a false intelligence report. Consider this scenario America. Israel is not one of our primary intelligence partners. Any report they release to us would omit any sensitive information, such as the collection method or anything that could possibly damage their intelligence collection abilities. That is a proven fact and is common practice in this field. If these communications that were collected actually had taken place, we quickly would have confirmed it and released a report to the public, we do have global collection abilities after all running 24/7, almost anything that goes over the airways we usually have some record of, especially the middle east. That process does not two weeks to do, my guess is that we've been digging and have been unable to confirm the report. Our entire reason to go to war is speculation based on an Israeli intelligence report for people who do not have Americas best interest in mind but their own interests. Whatever the Israeli report says, it obviously invoked an emotional response among leadership in our country, which is actually pretty unbelievable in itself because most chatter is usually bland or insignificant as to not give away crucial intelligence to adversaries. Most countries know our collection abilities and take drastic steps to avoid being collected on. Chatting about a chemical attack on open airways is completely unbelievable in itself. I know most people are of a like mind on here, but I wanted to give you all an opinion from experience. Thoughts about what the report will contain fellow GLPers?
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What are the odds they will determine that the FSA did the deed?
Less than zed?
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Re: The Israeli Intel report on the Syria chem attack, what will it contain?
Bet it won't contain this .
[link to www.zerohedge.com] this .
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Re: The Israeli Intel report on the Syria chem attack, what will it contain?
What are the odds they will determine that the FSA did the deed?
Less than zed?
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Considering the potency of the Chemical used in the attack, it doesn't appear to be a military grade nerve agent. If you get a dose of that stuff you're dead in ten minutes and have very little chance of living. I'm extremely skeptical about the Syrian regime using the chemicals, it doesn't follow standard tactics for deployment of chemical weapons in any way shape or form. You don't disperse chemicals in a limited non strategic environment, especially over ground you're planning to occupy yourself. Modern tactics use chemical weapons as more of an area denial/suppression tool than an actually casualty maker. Iraq used them on a large strategic scale against static Iranian defenses knowing that the Iranians had no way to protect themselves from the attack. Using chem weapons in a limited urban environment doesn't accomplish anything. I can almost assure you that FSA conducted the attack.
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Re: The Israeli Intel report on the Syria chem attack, what will it contain?
Bet it won't contain this .
[link to www.zerohedge.com] this .
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Link is dead.
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Re: The Israeli Intel report on the Syria chem attack, what will it contain?
It will contain: Sorry guys, we sort of helped in the making of it and no matter what you do, the US army will bomb your freedom and peace lovin asses to the sky.
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Re: The Israeli Intel report on the Syria chem attack, what will it contain?
100% proof Assad did it
And that's the truth
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Re: The Israeli Intel report on the Syria chem attack, what will it contain?
Lots of bullshit.
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Re: The Israeli Intel report on the Syria chem attack, what will it contain?
Lies. Israel was founded on lies, and will continue to exist upon lies.
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100% proof Assad did it
And that's the truth
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I completely disagree. It's tantamount to defeat for his country if the international community turns on him. Assad may be a blood thirsty dictator, but he's far smarter than the other dictators we've dealt with in the past.
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Re: The Israeli Intel report on the Syria chem attack, what will it contain?
It will probably contain a whole bunch of Zionist bullshit, that's what.
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Re: The Israeli Intel report on the Syria chem attack, what will it contain?
100% proof Assad did it
And that's the truth
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And the proof is???









Who cares::::WE WILL BOMB! Because we say so!!!


What a proof!!!
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Re: The Israeli Intel report on the Syria chem attack, what will it contain?
100% proof Assad did it
And that's the truth
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And the proof is???









Who cares::::WE WILL BOMB! Because we say so!!!


What a proof!!!
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100% proof Assad did it
And that's the truth
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45952318


And the proof is???









Who cares::::WE WILL BOMB! Because we say so!!!


What a proof!!!
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I'm a patriot, and you?, a traitor
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The reason Israel and their puppet US government is so committed to the lie is because THEY are the ones responsible for the chemical attacks. They are the ones that started the rebellion. They are the ones who want Assad out. They are responsible for the deaths of the people killed in the chemical attacks.
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Re: The Israeli Intel report on the Syria chem attack, what will it contain?
100% proof Assad did it
And that's the truth
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And the proof is???









Who cares::::WE WILL BOMB! Because we say so!!!


What a proof!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46013189


100% proof Assad did it
And that's the truth
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45952318


And the proof is???









Who cares::::WE WILL BOMB! Because we say so!!!


What a proof!!!
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I'm a patriot, and you?, a traitor
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Says the guy from Switzerland, are you even American? I love my country too, I love it enough not to see it get it another useless war and pay with its blood and treasure.
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Re: The Israeli Intel report on the Syria chem attack, what will it contain?
I've been trained In CBN warfare in detail.
I know its' all bullshit.
Nothing fits.

This is a fraud intended for a provocation as a means to an end.

This is supposed to legitimize the US paying to act as the defacto Salafist-wahabist airforce and missile command.
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Re: The Israeli Intel report on the Syria chem attack, what will it contain?
100% proof Assad did it
And that's the truth
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45952318


And the proof is???









Who cares::::WE WILL BOMB! Because we say so!!!


What a proof!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46013189


100% proof Assad did it
And that's the truth
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45952318


And the proof is???









Who cares::::WE WILL BOMB! Because we say so!!!


What a proof!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46013189


I'm a patriot, and you?, a traitor
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45952318


Yes I'm.And you must be a Queen of England!!!

Show the proof, PATRIOT!
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Re: The Israeli Intel report on the Syria chem attack, what will it contain?
I've been trained In CBN warfare in detail.
I know its' all bullshit.
Nothing fits.

This is a fraud intended for a provocation as a means to an end.

This is supposed to legitimize the US paying to act as the defacto Salafist-wahabist airforce and missile command.
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I couldn't agree more. I was NBC NCO trained, none of this makes sense. It was either a very poor nerve agent or a suffocating agent. The limited deployment gave it away, insufficient target saturation without any strategic or tactical goal to its use.
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Re: The Israeli Intel report on the Syria chem attack, what will it contain?
There will be no proof, there will be lots and lots of bluster, insinuation, promises and fill in the blank.

When two liars are in battle, there is no point in searches for truths from either one of them.
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Re: The Israeli Intel report on the Syria chem attack, what will it contain?
For starters you dont handle victims without proper protective gear and you dont stack they up like cord wood in a corner.
And absorbed chemicals will leak out of surfaces.

This is more like degraded or homemade poison that the alleged medical people are making no effort to protect themselves from.

Not a single IV seen in the treating the 'victims' either.
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For starters you dont handle victims without proper protective gear and you dont stack they up like cord wood in a corner.
And absorbed chemicals will leak out of surfaces.

This is more like degraded or homemade poison that the alleged medical people are making no effort to protect themselves from.

Not a single IV seen in the treating the 'victims' either.
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This is entirely true, the self preservation instinct kicks in when with dealing with Nerve Agents. Training dictates you do not run into the contaminated zone without protection because you'll jut become a casualty yourself. Whatever this was, it was some kind of watered down homemade nerve agent and not military grade.
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The lack of any of the victims getting IV's or getting serial atropine shots which are the basis of proper treatment suggests the actors pretending to be sick (and doing it poorly) don't want to get poked with needles to look like they want to save their own lives.

In real life they would be up to their knees in used syringes if there was a real organophosphate poison attack and exposure.
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The lack of any of the victims getting IV's or getting serial atropine shots which are the basis of proper treatment suggests the actors pretending to be sick (and doing it poorly) don't want to get poked with needles to look like they want to save their own lives.

In real life they would be up to their knees in used syringes if there was a real organophosphate poison attack and exposure.
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You would also see the first responders start to drop from exposure. Organophosphates work a lot faster than what was shown in the video. The entire thing stinks honestly, I wish more people would see this.
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Re: The Israeli Intel report on the Syria chem attack, what will it contain?
Even more, the constellation of vomiting, diarrhea, sweating and convulsions is hard to fake properly, that's why what the vids show is vague nonspecific discomfort and rolling around exactly like what you'd expect if you told a group of ignorants to pretend they are very sick.

Hard to fake vomiting and diarrhea and convulsions.

Convulsions are violent and involuntary and often lead to further injury and are not just rolling around looking poorly.
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Re: The Israeli Intel report on the Syria chem attack, what will it contain?
The lack of any of the victims getting IV's or getting serial atropine shots which are the basis of proper treatment suggests the actors pretending to be sick (and doing it poorly) don't want to get poked with needles to look like they want to save their own lives.

In real life they would be up to their knees in used syringes if there was a real organophosphate poison attack and exposure.
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You would also see the first responders start to drop from exposure. Organophosphates work a lot faster than what was shown in the video. The entire thing stinks honestly, I wish more people would see this.
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THIS>>>>

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Additionally there is nothing that says that the alleged bodies laid out are not Christians or other infidels that were murdered and made to look like the muzz.

Just because someone is shown dead doesnt mean the facts are like they said.

Sun Tzu says that the first casualty of war is always the truth.
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