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US Census Bureau...WTF!!!

 
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08/30/2013 05:21 PM
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US Census Bureau...WTF!!!
Received a letter by mail stating my household was specially selected to receive the American Community Survey in which I will be seeing it in the mail within a few days.

Received survey instructions had to do this on-line through official government site. This was no survey, I had to list everyone who lives at my home, name, age, birth dates, incomes, mortgage payment, insurance info, work place, how long it takes me to get to work how I got there and what time I leave, how many hours I work and much more personal info in which it's non of their damn business.

Needless to say I was shocked to see on the envelope "Your Response Is Required By Law" WTF!!!!
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08/30/2013 05:27 PM
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unless it was a certified letter, fuck that shit, they can't prove that you ever received it.
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unless it was a certified letter, fuck that shit, they can't prove that you ever received it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29308957


bump ^This^

Tell them neighborhood kids have been stealing your mail.
If its "required" then they should be able to show you a copy of the law stating same.

A story on it: [link to m.nbc12.com]

The "official" page for filling out the form's answers: [link to www.census.gov]

Last Edited by eV3y on 08/30/2013 05:36 PM
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08/30/2013 05:34 PM
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unless it was a certified letter, fuck that shit, they can't prove that you ever received it.
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I agree, just letting peeps know if they happen to receive this a lot of personal question involved that they don't need to know!
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Do like I did on the census form, make some shit up. All they need to know is how many people live there, anything else is none of their damn bidness!!
Idealism is a wonderful thing, as long as you have someone rational to put it to good use.
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Re: US Census Bureau...WTF!!!
Received a letter by mail stating my household was specially selected to receive the American Community Survey in which I will be seeing it in the mail within a few days.

Received survey instructions had to do this on-line through official government site. This was no survey, I had to list everyone who lives at my home, name, age, birth dates, incomes, mortgage payment, insurance info, work place, how long it takes me to get to work how I got there and what time I leave, how many hours I work and much more personal info in which it's non of their damn business.

Needless to say I was shocked to see on the envelope "Your Response Is Required By Law" WTF!!!!
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unless it was a certified letter, fuck that shit, they can't prove that you ever received it.
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Be careful though, courts will assume that you've received it if the sender can verify they sent it through US mail.

It would then become your burden to prove you didn't get it. Kind of backwards I know, but I've personally seen this in court.

Saying you didn't get it is not a sufficient defense.

Last Edited by snarky74 on 08/30/2013 05:46 PM
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Re: US Census Bureau...WTF!!!
Received a letter by mail stating my household was specially selected to receive the American Community Survey in which I will be seeing it in the mail within a few days.

Received survey instructions had to do this on-line through official government site. This was no survey, I had to list everyone who lives at my home, name, age, birth dates, incomes, mortgage payment, insurance info, work place, how long it takes me to get to work how I got there and what time I leave, how many hours I work and much more personal info in which it's non of their damn business.

Needless to say I was shocked to see on the envelope "Your Response Is Required By Law" WTF!!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46015192


You have to answer # of people living at your residence nothing more.
But you do have to send it back.

For the rest of EACH QUESTION, say, "I cite my 4th and 5th amendment rights".

Do the same for the extra household member section that probably has to fill it out too.

Leave nothing blank. Zero personal info.

Send it back filled out. (as is without any embellishment).
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08/30/2013 06:02 PM
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Yup, only answer the number people living in the house.
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Yup, only answer the number people living in the house.
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Well that is quite strange seeing how they are only allowed to take a census once every 10yrs.! and they just did about 3 yrs ago?
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08/30/2013 06:38 PM
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Do not open the envelope, write on it NOT AT THIS ADDRESS and toss it back in a mailbox.
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08/30/2013 06:44 PM
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They didn't specify what your response had to be.
Send them a copy of the Constitution. That's a response.
ancha

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08/30/2013 06:50 PM
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Census bureau has been doing this for at least the last 30 years. (Mom used to work for them eons ago) This extended questionnaire is nothing new. It is sent at random. I am unaware of anyone ever being prosecuted for non compliance,
even though there is that reference to it. They might follow up with a phone call saying they have not received your response. That might be the time to say you have no recollection of receiving anything like that in the mail.
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08/30/2013 06:54 PM
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Just tell the Census Bureau to fuck-off...it's that simple
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08/30/2013 06:56 PM
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sounds to me like a really good scam, so whoever is going to rob you/your house now knows if it is worth robbing and when you are at home and when not !

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Just burn all letters from them
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08/30/2013 06:59 PM
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I recieved it about two months ago myself, I haven't gotten to it yet. There is no specific date that it has to be returned by so when I get a free 45 minutes I'll sit down and do it but as you know i'm very busy these days what with GLP and all.
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08/30/2013 07:03 PM
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I got one of these in the mail a couple of years ago, I was stunned by the information they wanted to know. Threw it away and never heard anything more. Others have said that if you don't fill it out you will get a visit from a census employee to "help" you fill it out, I never did. Just throw it away, and be sure you know who is at the door before you answer it. You won't go to jail.
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08/30/2013 07:04 PM
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it was an obedience test

you passed
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08/30/2013 07:13 PM
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Census bureau has been doing this for at least the last 30 years. (Mom used to work for them eons ago) This extended questionnaire is nothing new. It is sent at random. I am unaware of anyone ever being prosecuted for non compliance,
even though there is that reference to it. They might follow up with a phone call saying they have not received your response. That might be the time to say you have no recollection of receiving anything like that in the mail.
 Quoting: ancha


I have filled out forms before but on paper only and mailed it back. The first letter I received said this survey will help schools, highways and basically the community where I live. So I logged into the website they gave me a code in which directed me to my address. From there they knew I received the letter I had to finish it which took close to 2 hours to complete. Imho this survey has nothing to do with improvements to my community. Just giving a heads up to anyone else who may receive this.
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08/30/2013 07:23 PM
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I have no idea what they did with the information when people responded. It is my opinion that the US Census Bureau just had to make up work to justify their existence.
Again, more than 30 years ago, before computers and Google maps, Mom would get these random assignments to drive out into the farm land or rural areas and make crude maps of the dirt roads and confirm that there were "Dwellings" on those roads. She loved it as it paid well and was a nice day in the country. This was so long ago that no one was afraid to do this nor did she ever meet with anyone who questioned her presence.
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Received a letter by mail stating my household was specially selected to receive the American Community Survey in which I will be seeing it in the mail within a few days.

Received survey instructions had to do this on-line through official government site. This was no survey, I had to list everyone who lives at my home, name, age, birth dates, incomes, mortgage payment, insurance info, work place, how long it takes me to get to work how I got there and what time I leave, how many hours I work and much more personal info in which it's non of their damn business.

Needless to say I was shocked to see on the envelope "Your Response Is Required By Law" WTF!!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46015192


sounds like a scam letter not from the government
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Received a letter by mail stating my household was specially selected to receive the American Community Survey in which I will be seeing it in the mail within a few days.

Received survey instructions had to do this on-line through official government site. This was no survey, I had to list everyone who lives at my home, name, age, birth dates, incomes, mortgage payment, insurance info, work place, how long it takes me to get to work how I got there and what time I leave, how many hours I work and much more personal info in which it's non of their damn business.

Needless to say I was shocked to see on the envelope "Your Response Is Required By Law" WTF!!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46015192


sounds like a scam letter not from the government
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The website was a secure .gov so I don't know
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08/30/2013 09:43 PM
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bump for the night crew, one question I remember that was very odd was am I capable going shopping or doctors alone, yes or no question
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08/30/2013 09:49 PM
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It's real. I got one a few years ago. What I mean is it is not a scam sent by non government officials.
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08/30/2013 09:56 PM
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I have received that before. Burn the thing and piss on the ashes.
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08/30/2013 09:58 PM
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Sounds like they plan on robbing you.
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08/30/2013 10:08 PM

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I would throw this garbage in the garbage can where it belongs. It is none of the governments business.
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08/30/2013 10:20 PM
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I would throw this garbage in the garbage can where it belongs. It is none of the governments business.
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Yes my point exactly don't fill it out don't go to the website just throw it away.