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Saturday, 31 August 2013

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BY JAKE ADELSTEIN

What has been will be again,

what has been done will be done again;

there is nothing new under the sun.

— Ecclesiastes 1:9

These words are said to have been penned by King Solomon around 3,000 years ago. Perhaps they were an augury of Japan’s nuclear industry. I’m sure somewhere there’s an original text that reads, “In the Land of the Melting Sun.”
Here’s the basic pattern: An accident occurs in Japan’s nuclear industry; those in charge fail to deal with it well; people suffer; those in charge lie to the public; finally they admit it and apologize profusely. Then the cycle is repeated.

The latest revelations of leaks from at least one of more than 1,000 storage tanks being used to store radiation-contaminated water at the Fukushima No. 1 nuclear power plant operated by Tokyo Electric Power Co. (Tepco) are really nothing new; it’s just another in a series of follies being handled in an irresponsible and short-sighted way.

True to form, while the media had been reporting on the problem for weeks, Tepco had denied it. Finally — and oddly, just after July’s Upper House elections — there was the admission, the obligatory apology, and an announcement by the Japanese government that it would come to the rescue.

They say those who don’t learn from history are doomed to repeat it — yet the patterns of mishaps in Japan’s nuclear industry that I write about are so reproducible as to give me a strange sense of déjà vu. We have been here before.


The explosions and meltdowns of three reactors at Tepco’s Fukushima facility in March 2011, leading to massive leaks of radiation, comprised the world’s worst nuclear disaster since a reactor exploded at the Chernobyl nuclear power plant in the USSR (present-day Ukraine) in April 1986. In the northeastern Tohoku region of Honshu, where the Fukushima plant is located, more than 100,000 people have been forced to evacuate due to high radiation levels and the cleanup will likely take at least 40 years.


Tepco at first blamed the accident on “an unforeseen massive tsunami” triggered by the Great East Japan Earthquake on March 11, 2011. Then it admitted it had in fact foreseen just such a scenario but hadn’t done anything about it.


A Special Diet Commission reporting in July 2012, and other studies, concluded that the earthquake alone probably damaged the cooling system of the Fukushima plant’s 40-year-old Reactor 1 so badly that, even before the tsunami, meltdown was inevitable because it would overheat so much.

In other words, some of Japan’s nuclear power plants may be unable to withstand an earthquake. Not a comforting thought in a country that has constant seismic activity.
Of course, “nuclear meltdown” itself was denied for months. Even up to May 2011, while the foreign media had long labeled the Fukushima disaster “a triple meltdown,” Tepco — and the national government — stonewalled, insisting that meltdown had not been confirmed.


Then finally, just a week before members of an International Atomic Energy Agency investigation team were to arrive in Japan, the government and Tepco admitted the facts — with the usual ritual apologies.

[end snip]

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Japan Nuclear Regulation Authority to consider reducing water used to cool damaged reactors at Fukushima nuclear power station - @The_Japan_News


and now this
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i have a report to analyse this afternoon, but they are saying that they are coming to an agreement to release waste into the ocean to be 'diluted'.......
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OCEAN BOILING...CHEERS
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the strong clever people of Japan will solve these problems
bless you
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i have a report to analyse this afternoon, but they are saying that they are coming to an agreement to release waste into the ocean to be 'diluted'.......
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Dilution is the solution they say!

:/
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if the ocean is boiling there would be fishes floating up on the sea by the million.
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i have a report to analyse this afternoon, but they are saying that they are coming to an agreement to release waste into the ocean to be 'diluted'.......
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Dilution is the solution they say!

:/
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yeah very f'in 50's no?
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perhaps god fancys a cup of tea,a gigantic teabag is gonna fall from the heavens,and a moon sized biscuit for a dunkin.
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Alright, it might be time give it a rest bro. We get it. it's over.

This is an extinction level event, meaning we are all going to die.

Why keep beating a dead horse?

go enjoy the time you have left.
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if the ocean is boiling there would be fishes floating up on the sea by the million.
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They died LONG ago!
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Alright, it might be time give it a rest bro. We get it. it's over.

This is an extinction level event, meaning we are all going to die.

Why keep beating a dead horse?

go enjoy the time you have left.
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if you have children?.. the horse isn't dead yet.. sitting on our collective arses maybe.....
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Thread: Videos: Leaks and the Olympics? Dilution the Solution coming, mark my words.... (not that they haven't from the outset)
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"TEPCO’s account of the discovery this month of the leak of 300 tons of highly radioactive water showed a frightening level of amateurism"

Amateurism indeed! 2 1/2 years of amateurism!

And the entire world is going to stand idly by while these same people play "pickup sticks" with spent fuel rods in November??

Insanity. Absolute insanity.
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i have a report to analyse this afternoon, but they are saying that they are coming to an agreement to release waste into the ocean to be 'diluted'.......
 Quoting: Citizenperth


Dilution is the solution they say!

:/
 Quoting: TheTruthMonger


These aholes deserve a special place in hell that promote the dilution theory of a toxic chemical The dilution theory goes a long way towards safe exposure when it come to non radioactive chemicals.....taking in radioactive particles from food and air aren't the same thing...the food builds up the contamination that you ultimately buy from the grocery shelf.


We have to fight this ignorance and thank you CP for your tireless efforts.
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the world’s worst nuclear disaster since a reactor exploded at the Chernobyl nuclear power plant in the USSR (present-day Ukraine) in April 1986.

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Why do I keep hearing and reading that Fukushima is the worst nuclear accident since Chernobyl? Fukushima is far and away the worst nuclear accident in history and has the potential to be an ELE.
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Alright, it might be time give it a rest bro. We get it. it's over.

This is an extinction level event, meaning we are all going to die.

Why keep beating a dead horse?

go enjoy the time you have left.


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Hey Wanker,

Why dont you stop clicking on Fukushima threads? Some of us click on them cause we are interested in what is going on regardless of the final ultimate outcome. I like this guy CP's style and his threads are very decent, interesting and informative..

Dont worry there are still some Beyonce, Gaga and Miley threads for you to jack off to so dont waste your precious wanking time on any Fukushima threads.

Oh and P S get a life
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People need to settle down and stop listening to ignorant fear mongers.



Is Fukushima Daiichi’s Wastewater Really Toxic?
August 31, 2013

Ever since the Fukushima groundwater contamination issue emerged more than a month ago, the Press has incessantly labeled the waters “toxic”. This blog has previously covered the hazards of radioactive Cesium-137 (“How Hazardous is Cs-137?” – two parts – 11/2/12 and 11/9/12). There is so little Cesium in the stored water that it makes no sense to base the current “toxic” designation on it. The “toxic groundwater” label might due to the Strontium contained in the tank’s water. The recent deluge of Press coverage concerning a leaky storage tank at Fukushima Daiichi virtually demands a posting on the health hazards of Strontium-90. First, just how toxic is Strontium? Second, is the level of contaminated water that may have reached the sea worthy of being labeled “toxic”?

Strontium is a soft, silver-yellow, alkaline-earth metal. Its chemical properties are similar to Barium and Calcium. It is chemically reactivity, which means it readily undergoes reactions with other atoms found in nature. In its pure form it can result in an extreme reaction with water and in finely-powdered form can ignite to produce strontium oxide and strontium nitride. However, it is never in pure form when found in nature. It is contained in several mineral forms including celestite (SrSO4) and strontianite (SrCO3). Natural physical processes over the billions of years have concentrated these compounds into some sedimentary rock layers and can be mined. World production is about 140,000 tons per year. Its main use is in the special glass used in TV screens and visual display technology. Some other uses include pyrotechnics (fireworks), warning flares, and common greases. The radioactive form (Sr-90) also turns out to be valuable and has been used in some space vehicle technology, remote weather stations and navigation buoys.

Due to mining and natural weathering of Strontium-bearing sedimentary rocks, the element is found uniformly in all soils. As a result, it is in many foods - in low levels such as with corn (0.4 ppm) and oranges (0.5 ppm), and high concentrations such as with cabbage (45 ppm), onions (50 ppm), and Lettuce (74 ppm). On the average, each of us ingests 1.9 milligrams of Strontium each day, and we carry about 320 mg in our bodies. Daily intake of Strontium of less than 5 milligrams is considered harmless. The biological half-life varies with the compounds of Strontium we might take in, running from 14 days to as much as 600 days. To put it simply…once ingested, it tends to stick around. It should be noted that Strontium compounds are typically found in river waters (~ 50 ppb) and seawater (8ppm).

Read on ...

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I was mostly with ya cp until the thread
about radiation being "not as advertised"
a few days ago.

And now a quote from a triber AND SOLOMAN?

Show the dead and or dying...not fish which can be easily
faked.

If the workers at Fuku are still dancing around
then....

Push and shove CP.
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the world’s worst nuclear disaster since a reactor exploded at the Chernobyl nuclear power plant in the USSR (present-day Ukraine) in April 1986.

 Quoting: Citizenperth


Why do I keep hearing and reading that Fukushima is the worst nuclear accident since Chernobyl? Fukushima is far and away the worst nuclear accident in history and has the potential to be an ELE.
 Quoting: my 2 cents


This is the champion of nuclear power.....

It will take another nuclear power plant nearby to build this "ice wall" which is absolutely stupid.

I multinational effort should be made to locate the cores, then moderate them using all means available to humankind.....after we start some wars in the middle east.
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It will be like Chernobyl soon, all green and lush and full of life.

Relax it's mostly bullshit ...


You can go on a tour right up to Chernobyl with no protective clothing. Life never stopped there, beside the plant a forest stands which is full of life.


Chernobyl - Life in the Dead Zone (1/5) HQ



Chernobyl - Life in the Dead Zone (2/5) HQ



Chernobyl - Life in the Dead Zone (3/5) HQ



Chernobyl - Life in the Dead Zone (4/5) HQ


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I was mostly with ya cp until the thread
about radiation being "not as advertised"
a few days ago.

And now a quote from a triber AND SOLOMAN?

Show the dead and or dying...not fish which can be easily
faked.

If the workers at Fuku are still dancing around
then....

Push and shove CP.
 Quoting: wonky 46020115


fair enough comment, read it as you see it still applies....

like this one from Ray Masalas reporting from Zero Nuke organization in France:

[link to voiceofrussia.com]

Last Edited by CitizenPerth on 08/31/2013 10:42 PM
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Most frustrating is the absence of reporting the human cost happening right now...it's a dead silent wasteland.
vague amorphous reports about real effects on wildlife..and exactly how are Japanese surviving radioactive contamination of the DRINKING WATER. They should be covered in lesions one would think. There are stories from a year ago about people's hair and teeth falling out. How and where are they now?
What is the west coast of the u.s. experiencing...anything?

We're always hearing about the Child-ren. What ABOUT the children..all of them, not just a singular case here and there.

This is the frustration I feel constantly in all these reports.
I'm not even slightly in denial. But what the fuck is going on with people, livestock, ocean life. That's what we NEED to know. What ARE current effects exactly.
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i have a report to analyse this afternoon, but they are saying that they are coming to an agreement to release waste into the ocean to be 'diluted'.......
 Quoting: Citizenperth


*FIXED*Dilution is the solution . . .or so they used to say!

:/
 Quoting: TheTruthMonger


YOU'RE WELCOME...and, sorry. Had to be done.end
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Those guys at Fukushima wear, plastic and a mask???

They must be seriously worried about radiation.

lol
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People need to settle down and stop listening to ignorant fear mongers.



Is Fukushima Daiichi’s Wastewater Really Toxic?
August 31, 2013

Ever since the Fukushima groundwater contamination issue emerged more than a month ago, the Press has incessantly labeled the waters “toxic”. This blog has previously covered the hazards of radioactive Cesium-137 (“How Hazardous is Cs-137?” – two parts – 11/2/12 and 11/9/12). There is so little Cesium in the stored water that it makes no sense to base the current “toxic” designation on it. The “toxic groundwater” label might due to the Strontium contained in the tank’s water. The recent deluge of Press coverage concerning a leaky storage tank at Fukushima Daiichi virtually demands a posting on the health hazards of Strontium-90. First, just how toxic is Strontium? Second, is the level of contaminated water that may have reached the sea worthy of being labeled “toxic”?

Strontium is a soft, silver-yellow, alkaline-earth metal. Its chemical properties are similar to Barium and Calcium. It is chemically reactivity, which means it readily undergoes reactions with other atoms found in nature. In its pure form it can result in an extreme reaction with water and in finely-powdered form can ignite to produce strontium oxide and strontium nitride. However, it is never in pure form when found in nature. It is contained in several mineral forms including celestite (SrSO4) and strontianite (SrCO3). Natural physical processes over the billions of years have concentrated these compounds into some sedimentary rock layers and can be mined. World production is about 140,000 tons per year. Its main use is in the special glass used in TV screens and visual display technology. Some other uses include pyrotechnics (fireworks), warning flares, and common greases. The radioactive form (Sr-90) also turns out to be valuable and has been used in some space vehicle technology, remote weather stations and navigation buoys.

Due to mining and natural weathering of Strontium-bearing sedimentary rocks, the element is found uniformly in all soils. As a result, it is in many foods - in low levels such as with corn (0.4 ppm) and oranges (0.5 ppm), and high concentrations such as with cabbage (45 ppm), onions (50 ppm), and Lettuce (74 ppm). On the average, each of us ingests 1.9 milligrams of Strontium each day, and we carry about 320 mg in our bodies. Daily intake of Strontium of less than 5 milligrams is considered harmless. The biological half-life varies with the compounds of Strontium we might take in, running from 14 days to as much as 600 days. To put it simply…once ingested, it tends to stick around. It should be noted that Strontium compounds are typically found in river waters (~ 50 ppb) and seawater (8ppm).

Read on ...

[link to www.hiroshimasyndrome.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46094408

OK folks! This is what we have to be on guard for........


THIS is a great example of what a shill is. This is a full flower in bloom of how shills operate.

Don't mention the dozens of other toxic isotopes being spewed, merely consentrate on just ONE of them, Strontium....which you will never convince me did'nt play a role in my wife's death of leukemia..

Just one radioactive compound! There are probably new ones not yet known to man!


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