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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1527598 Netherlands 09/01/2013 05:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Bearing more bad news.. the worst is now Mainstream from Fuku; the Leaks now are equal to the event : video The question is how long can a worker be on side before he receives his max radiation dose. Assuming they want to keep people alive. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1527598 Remember once a worker max out he or she can't go back. There are 1300 fuel rods to be removed, how long will it take to remove 1 rod? An hour, a day? How many highly trained workers do you need? How many people does it take at the same time to remove 1 rod? Can anybody see a huge problem here? I'd like your opinion on this: Thread: Ultimate catch 22: Moving Fukushima unit 4 fuel rods - Your opinion? Hehehe the 4th reply in that thread was mine. I honestly can't see them removing the rods. Say it takes 5 people to remove 1 rod. 1 rod replacement takes 1 hour and workers can only be there 3 minutes. It will take 100 people to remove 1 rod. it will take 130000 highly trained people to remove 1 spentfuel pool. what if it takes 10 people at the same time , what if it takes 2 hours to remove a rod and so on. It cannot be done. Thanks. What's your opinion of this? Thread: Would Fukushima evacuation seal humanity's DOOM? Yes it will Tepco has been pissing on a campfire for 2,5 years, there is not much else they can do. If fukushima has to be abandoned and in my opinion this is only a matter of time all is lost. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 45726312 Netherlands 09/01/2013 05:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Bearing more bad news.. the worst is now Mainstream from Fuku; the Leaks now are equal to the event : video ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38422418 I'd like your opinion on this: Thread: Ultimate catch 22: Moving Fukushima unit 4 fuel rods - Your opinion? Hehehe the 4th reply in that thread was mine. I honestly can't see them removing the rods. Say it takes 5 people to remove 1 rod. 1 rod replacement takes 1 hour and workers can only be there 3 minutes. It will take 100 people to remove 1 rod. it will take 130000 highly trained people to remove 1 spentfuel pool. what if it takes 10 people at the same time , what if it takes 2 hours to remove a rod and so on. It cannot be done. Thanks. What's your opinion of this? Thread: Would Fukushima evacuation seal humanity's DOOM? Yes it will Tepco has been pissing on a campfire for 2,5 years, there is not much else they can do. If fukushima has to be abandoned and in my opinion this is only a matter of time all is lost. |
Hypertiger User ID: 28450545 Canada 09/01/2013 05:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Bearing more bad news.. the worst is now Mainstream from Fuku; the Leaks now are equal to the event : video [link to hypertiger.blogspot.ca] From March 27, 2011 They can use the revelation to create chaos or an effect and then promote it as the cause. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 34142171 Denmark 09/01/2013 05:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Bearing more bad news.. the worst is now Mainstream from Fuku; the Leaks now are equal to the event : video 2 things: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34142171 We weren't ready for nuclear and this tech solution for it was idiotic and criminal. Perhaps nuclear will never be the answer. Essentially nothing is being done if not the whole world is working on this and is at all times kept informed about it. This is not the case at all. It follows that our governments/states are not to be trusted. Perhaps they're more dangerous than Fukushima? Quiet honestly a play on words is not what is required here. Yes Governments are as they are. So is Fukushima. To explain my obvious point better: the public in any country must put pressure on their own states to force more awareness and a better handling of the problem. As it stands my post complemented your thread perfectly. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 46109572 United States 09/01/2013 05:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Bearing more bad news.. the worst is now Mainstream from Fuku; the Leaks now are equal to the event : video CitizenLiar constantly gets his bullshit pinned on here. Anyone who constantly gets shit pinned for anything they post is a propagandist. If GLP pins him, they are pushing an agenda, and you could avoid being turned into sheeple very quickly by knowing this. |
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Citizenperth (OP) User ID: 45946986 Australia 09/01/2013 06:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Bearing more bad news.. the worst is now Mainstream from Fuku; the Leaks now are equal to the event : video CitizenLiar constantly gets his bullshit pinned on here. Anyone who constantly gets shit pinned for anything they post is a propagandist. If GLP pins him, they are pushing an agenda, and you could avoid being turned into sheeple very quickly by knowing this. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46109572 which 'agenda' would that be? multiple meltdowns of epic proportions that hitherto have never been experienced? and warning and updating as to status? is that the one? Last Edited by CitizenPerth™ on 09/01/2013 06:06 AM It's life as we know it, but only just. [link to citizenperth.wordpress.com] sic ut vos es vos should exsisto , denego alius vicis facio vos change , exsisto youself , proprie |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 46109572 United States 09/01/2013 06:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Bearing more bad news.. the worst is now Mainstream from Fuku; the Leaks now are equal to the event : video CitizenLiar constantly gets his bullshit pinned on here. Anyone who constantly gets shit pinned for anything they post is a propagandist. If GLP pins him, they are pushing an agenda, and you could avoid being turned into sheeple very quickly by knowing this. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46109572 which 'agenda' would that be? multiple meltdowns of epic proportions that hitherto have never been experienced? is that the one? You continue to lie about what is happening. The agenda is to frighten people. To make them react in a particular way. Seriously just FUCK OFF LIAR |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1527598 Netherlands 09/01/2013 06:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Bearing more bad news.. the worst is now Mainstream from Fuku; the Leaks now are equal to the event : video CitizenLiar constantly gets his bullshit pinned on here. Anyone who constantly gets shit pinned for anything they post is a propagandist. If GLP pins him, they are pushing an agenda, and you could avoid being turned into sheeple very quickly by knowing this. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46109572 Either that or he has got a point. Let's look at the facts einstein. Tepco has been lying. The only thing tepco has been able to do is to cool the site with sea water. (corrosion) There are 3 runaway cores. Leaking tanks. 300.000 tons of polluted water a day into the ocean 6 years before the whole ocean is contaminated (needs to be revised since the figures they used are lower that they are now). 1300 rods cannot be removed (do the math) Tepco admits it is out of their control (that's the first truth they have told since 3/11.) Mox fuel onsite. Site is turning into a swamp. Building 4 could collapse (just a matter of time) Any one of these could force tepco to abandon the site. Once that happends its over. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 46109572 United States 09/01/2013 06:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Bearing more bad news.. the worst is now Mainstream from Fuku; the Leaks now are equal to the event : video CitizenLiar constantly gets his bullshit pinned on here. Anyone who constantly gets shit pinned for anything they post is a propagandist. If GLP pins him, they are pushing an agenda, and you could avoid being turned into sheeple very quickly by knowing this. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46109572 Either that or he has got a point. Let's look at the facts einstein. Tepco has been lying. The only thing tepco has been able to do is to cool the site with sea water. (corrosion) There are 3 runaway cores. Leaking tanks. 300.000 tons of polluted water a day into the ocean 6 years before the whole ocean is contaminated (needs to be revised since the figures they used are lower that they are now). 1300 rods cannot be removed (do the math) Tepco admits it is out of their control (that's the first truth they have told since 3/11.) Mox fuel onsite. Site is turning into a swamp. Building 4 could collapse (just a matter of time) Any one of these could force tepco to abandon the site. Once that happends its over. He has said they abandoned it before. Now they haven't? Which is it? See, so many people on glp just believe bs if someone says it. |
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Citizenperth (OP) User ID: 45946986 Australia 09/01/2013 06:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Bearing more bad news.. the worst is now Mainstream from Fuku; the Leaks now are equal to the event : video CitizenLiar constantly gets his bullshit pinned on here. Anyone who constantly gets shit pinned for anything they post is a propagandist. If GLP pins him, they are pushing an agenda, and you could avoid being turned into sheeple very quickly by knowing this. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46109572 which 'agenda' would that be? multiple meltdowns of epic proportions that hitherto have never been experienced? is that the one? You continue to lie about what is happening. The agenda is to frighten people. To make them react in a particular way. Seriously just FUCK OFF LIAR rotating IP's are not your friend.. fuck off TEPCO, or use some data/facts..... be careful to.. GLP pins are red....... Last Edited by CitizenPerth™ on 09/01/2013 06:10 AM It's life as we know it, but only just. [link to citizenperth.wordpress.com] sic ut vos es vos should exsisto , denego alius vicis facio vos change , exsisto youself , proprie |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 46109572 United States 09/01/2013 06:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Bearing more bad news.. the worst is now Mainstream from Fuku; the Leaks now are equal to the event : video which 'agenda' would that be? multiple meltdowns of epic proportions that hitherto have never been experienced? is that the one? You continue to lie about what is happening. The agenda is to frighten people. To make them react in a particular way. Seriously just FUCK OFF LIAR rotating IP's are not your friend.. fuck off TEPCO, or use some data/facts..... Typical reaction of perth: anyone who sees through his scaremongering is "TEPCO." Seriously, this is just how cultists work, too. |
Scubadiverbambi1 User ID: 1212638 United States 09/01/2013 06:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Bearing more bad news.. the worst is now Mainstream from Fuku; the Leaks now are equal to the event : video I have been telling everyone about this for the past two years, but nobody cares, nobody has anything to say Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45616403 I guess they're just too fucking stupid to comprehend Same here; they look at you like you have ten heads and then go back to what they were doing! I even had one person tell me..."so". This is the mentality we will have to deal with when sthtf. I'm not sure what's scarier...Fuku itself or that! Life's a Beach, then you Dive! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1527598 Netherlands 09/01/2013 06:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Bearing more bad news.. the worst is now Mainstream from Fuku; the Leaks now are equal to the event : video I have been telling everyone about this for the past two years, but nobody cares, nobody has anything to say Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45616403 I guess they're just too fucking stupid to comprehend Same here; they look at you like you have ten heads and then go back to what they were doing! I even had one person tell me..."so". This is the mentality we will have to deal with when sthtf. I'm not sure what's scarier...Fuku itself or that! I think the problem is that radiation cannot be heard, seen or smelt. So people are not aware of it. Mix this with the ever more dumbing down of the human race and this is what you get. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 3063399 United States 09/01/2013 06:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Bearing more bad news.. the worst is now Mainstream from Fuku; the Leaks now are equal to the event : video I still think the board of TEPCO and the GOVERNMENT AGENCIES THAT LIED AND WITHHELD THE TRUTH WHEN SOMETHING COULD HAVE BEEN DONE WITH INTERNATIONAL ASSISTANCE should be sentenced to living in a jail built within 200 meters of the plant or as close as we could get them without immediately frying anyone who was charged with guarding them, feeding them, etc. Let those lying bastards suffer the same fate and worse than they sentenced the rest of the worlds people to! This is no less a war crime or a crime against humanity than was the Nazi killing of the Jews, etc. Japan's denial is so incredible that they're spending money and time and great effort to get the 20/20 Olympics to their rotten contaminated glow-in-the-dark island nation of liars and face-saving idiots! Why would the international community consider sending the athletes from all over the world into a country where it literally is not safe to drink their water, or go to their beaches and it's getting worse with every passing day. |
Citizenperth (OP) User ID: 45946986 Australia 09/01/2013 06:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Bearing more bad news.. the worst is now Mainstream from Fuku; the Leaks now are equal to the event : video ... Quoting: Citizenperth which 'agenda' would that be? multiple meltdowns of epic proportions that hitherto have never been experienced? is that the one? You continue to lie about what is happening. The agenda is to frighten people. To make them react in a particular way. Seriously just FUCK OFF LIAR rotating IP's are not your friend.. fuck off TEPCO, or use some data/facts..... Typical reaction of perth: anyone who sees through his scaremongering is "TEPCO." Seriously, this is just how cultists work, too. no, that would be banning you and removing you from thread.... grow a few cells.... It's life as we know it, but only just. [link to citizenperth.wordpress.com] sic ut vos es vos should exsisto , denego alius vicis facio vos change , exsisto youself , proprie |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1527598 Netherlands 09/01/2013 06:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Bearing more bad news.. the worst is now Mainstream from Fuku; the Leaks now are equal to the event : video Of course hind site is 20 20. But it seems INCREASINGLY clear that we should have nuked their whole island to hell when we started the job in 1945. How history would have changed had we done so. At least we wouldn't be facing a third of the world's population being damaged or killed by the Japanese face-saving, lying, incompetence. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3063399 I still think the board of TEPCO and the GOVERNMENT AGENCIES THAT LIED AND WITHHELD THE TRUTH WHEN SOMETHING COULD HAVE BEEN DONE WITH INTERNATIONAL ASSISTANCE should be sentenced to living in a jail built within 200 meters of the plant or as close as we could get them without immediately frying anyone who was charged with guarding them, feeding them, etc. Let those lying bastards suffer the same fate and worse than they sentenced the rest of the worlds people to! This is no less a war crime or a crime against humanity than was the Nazi killing of the Jews, etc. Japan's denial is so incredible that they're spending money and time and great effort to get the 20/20 Olympics to their rotten contaminated glow-in-the-dark island nation of liars and face-saving idiots! Why would the international community consider sending the athletes from all over the world into a country where it literally is not safe to drink their water, or go to their beaches and it's getting worse with every passing day. that's a really dumb thing to say since it was your country who invented nuclear power and weapons and GE provided the shitty reactors. Should we bomb you now? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 43696650 United States 09/01/2013 06:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Bearing more bad news.. the worst is now Mainstream from Fuku; the Leaks now are equal to the event : video I find the idea of holding the Olympics in Japan incredibly insane if you think about it. What insane athletes are gonna want to compete (assuming breathing hard while competing) all those hot particles in that area? Also what insane people would even consider traveling to a country where they are having a major nuclear event going on, and this will be going on for many years. The big question is "Why is Japan even putting any thought into having the Olympics when you would think that all attention, focus and resources would be put into dealing with Fukushima? Many people complaining about Citizenperth want quick simple answers without making any effort doing their own research. You have to keep in mind that many people's livelihoods are heavily invested (besides TEPCO) and will take a longer time especially if they are in the industry to see the reality of nuclear past what they have been trained to know about nuclear and will fight to the end to defend it regardless of mutations and other horrors. I don't think it takes a genius to see that having radiation pouring into the ocean is not a good thing and it's almost funny to watch people want to argue whether that's a bad thing. I can't imagine anyone arguing that point. The real Doom of Fukushima will be when they have let the radiation get too high to even work on the area and have to evacuate it. That will be the grand finale. All we have been experiencing has been the opening credits but that will be the main show. This supposed big event about them removing the rods from Reactor 4 can never happen as the number of people it would take because of the limited time they can spend (minutes before they reach their max exposure) would force them to have to have an unrealistic amount of people to complete the process. Keep in mind that they have probably been using what they consider "their best and most experienced" workers so far. When the exposure level gets higher. they will be recruiting burger flippers and anything with a pulse. Imagine what the quality of the people they have to work with insane enough to commit suicide for their minutes. I still can't believe the 1 star effort being made to try try to discredit or kill this messenger Thank you Citizenperth |
Citizenperth (OP) User ID: 45946986 Australia 09/01/2013 06:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Bearing more bad news.. the worst is now Mainstream from Fuku; the Leaks now are equal to the event : video Of course hind site is 20 20. But it seems INCREASINGLY clear that we should have nuked their whole island to hell when we started the job in 1945. How history would have changed had we done so. At least we wouldn't be facing a third of the world's population being damaged or killed by the Japanese face-saving, lying, incompetence. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3063399 I still think the board of TEPCO and the GOVERNMENT AGENCIES THAT LIED AND WITHHELD THE TRUTH WHEN SOMETHING COULD HAVE BEEN DONE WITH INTERNATIONAL ASSISTANCE should be sentenced to living in a jail built within 200 meters of the plant or as close as we could get them without immediately frying anyone who was charged with guarding them, feeding them, etc. Let those lying bastards suffer the same fate and worse than they sentenced the rest of the worlds people to! This is no less a war crime or a crime against humanity than was the Nazi killing of the Jews, etc. Japan's denial is so incredible that they're spending money and time and great effort to get the 20/20 Olympics to their rotten contaminated glow-in-the-dark island nation of liars and face-saving idiots! Why would the international community consider sending the athletes from all over the world into a country where it literally is not safe to drink their water, or go to their beaches and it's getting worse with every passing day. that's a really dumb thing to say since it was your country who invented nuclear power and weapons and GE provided the shitty reactors. Should we bomb you now? that point is moot. argument is also as strange. why can you not accept that an international emergency is underway? Last Edited by CitizenPerth™ on 09/01/2013 06:39 AM It's life as we know it, but only just. [link to citizenperth.wordpress.com] sic ut vos es vos should exsisto , denego alius vicis facio vos change , exsisto youself , proprie |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 2771636 Georgia 09/01/2013 06:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Bearing more bad news.. the worst is now Mainstream from Fuku; the Leaks now are equal to the event : video Can't they freeze the groundwater somewhere upstream and let it find its own diversion route - then deal with that problem when it manifests itself. I know they sometimes freeze ground with a high water table when they build foundations for low-lying structures, but I don't know how big an area we're talking about... though surely they have a good idea of the geology of the route the groundwater currently takes to reach the site. Maybe pumping liquid nitrogen into the ground would work? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 46084481 United States 09/01/2013 07:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Bearing more bad news.. the worst is now Mainstream from Fuku; the Leaks now are equal to the event : video [link to hypertiger.blogspot.ca] Quoting: Hypertiger From March 27, 2011 They can use the revelation to create chaos or an effect and then promote it as the cause. Such an ill informed thought. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 26491065 Sweden 09/01/2013 09:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Bearing more bad news.. the worst is now Mainstream from Fuku; the Leaks now are equal to the event : video Fukushima could be a god given opportunity for mankind. You know, everbody working together against a threat. Of course we can contain this disaster if we all chipped in. And stopped spending all the money on wars, surveilance, etc. I vote for taking all the money from Goldman Sachs and the Rothschilds. Or maybe, just maybe, is this another "aliens did 9-11"-thing to make us focus on the wrong issues. After all, a nuclear war over Syria/Iran would make Fukushima look rather bleak. |
Esoteric Morgan ...in awe of many things User ID: 26943919 United States 09/01/2013 01:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Bearing more bad news.. the worst is now Mainstream from Fuku; the Leaks now are equal to the event : video WHAT AMOUNT OF WATER IS 100 TONS OF WATER BY MEASUREMENT IN GALLONS? Quoting: Curtis~Fre I AM AN OLD SCHOOL GUY. I CANNOT ENVISION RADIOACTIVE WATER BY THE TON. PLEASE ENLIGHTEN ME. THANKS! 1 gallon water = 8.34 pounds. I do not know the exact weight of this 'heavy' water, or if there is a difference in weight. For ease of understanding, I am averaging this example to 8 pounds per gallon of water =================================================== There are 2000 pounds in one ton Therefore, One Ton = 250 gallons of water. 100 Tons = 25,000 gallons of water. [It is actually 23,980.815 gallons per 100 tons, at 8.34 pounds per gallon of water.] ======================================= another way: There are 100 tons. Each ton = 2000 pounds. This is 200,000 pounds. 200,000 divided by 8 (8 pounds per gallon) = 25,000 gallons ========================== That's like having 500 x 50 gallon water heaters or 833 x 30 gallon ones or 50 x 500 gallon heating fuel tanks or 500 x 50 gallon drums of something. ============= It's like filling up your bathtub, which may hold about 50 gallons of water, over 71 times a day for a week...or, three times every hour during that time frame. Or, filling your bathtub 20.8 times an hour for 24 hours, or, filling it once every 2.88 minutes for 24 hours...which it an impossibility. ========== In Fukushima they are filling these 100,000 gallon tanks 3 times a week. One week = 168 hours. That's 300,000 gallons every week, or, 42,857 gallons per day. Using THESE measurements, that's like filling 1,786 bathtubs per HOUR! or filling almost 30 bathtubs every minute for a week Of course, this has been going on for 2 1/2 years, every minute, 24/7. 30 bathtubs full of water being stored every minute, or 1/2 bathtub every second. In the time it took me to write this, approx ten minutes, 300 bathtubs worth of water have been contained. 30 50 gallon drums worth of water per minute: =========== of course, I only averaged the amounts, so the figure is somewhat lower. ======= And that's ONLY what they are able to contain, not counting the volume which just flows directly into the sea from cracks in the containment vessels. Last Edited by esotericMorgan on 09/01/2013 01:46 PM -- TRUST THE PLAN -- .......WWG1WGA...... ____________________________ still in awe of many things |