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EGO DEATH: SOMETHING YOU NEED TO EXPERIENCE ONE WAY OR ANOTHER

 
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mushrooms, dmt, changa all great .

For real ego death tho first remove the culturally excepted legal chemical drugs one consumes daily , sugar , nicotine , all that bullshit. Without cleaning your system out the ego will use those familiar chemicals one way or another to ground you . Absolute ego dissolution will not advance while its rooted in the junk we peddle on every street corner
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Sorry there shroom-boys... as much as a good trip is a good trip, you don't need psychedelics to do what OP has described.

I may not be straightedge by any stretch, but I can tell you that you can do what's being spoken of in this thread with no drugs whatsoever. Your mind is as open as you let it be. Work on loosening the knots, and relying less on brute force. Loosening the knots will lead to permanent (or at least seriously prolonged) Union.

Peace yo.
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Never tried mushroom but heard about it, at some point of my life I wanted to achieve Ego death, looked for that through meditation but never could.

People say this and that about meditation but I never experienced anything except green light bulbs.

I think one day I will experience, there are still chains that are holding me back so my brothers and sister.
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Ego is necessary to the process of making personality. YOu cannot exist with out it, but you can get out of it to get into spirit. I would suggest that the best reading I have ever seen about the ego, was from Jesus himself, in his teachings called Christ's Letters. [link to www.christsway.co.za] for the pdf file. It will teach how to die to the ego in a transcendent way.
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"© No part of this web site may be reproduced in any form or by any means without permission from Christ's Way.
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Right guy. Make sure to get the thumbs up from ol' JC if you want to quote any of his 'teachings for the world'.

Makes TOTAL sense...


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I experienced ego death after being mobbed out of a job and then unemployed. It happens when you come to the realization that everything you invested your life into has all of a sudden become worthless. You realize that how you viewed yourself is not how 100% of others viewed you.

OP is correct in that it will happen repeatedly. To survive in this world you do need some ego which eventually gets torn down again. And thus you are born again.

The only solution, of course, is that the kingdom of heaven is inside you. Look to your heart to discern truth, right and wrong (conscience), and beauty and ask God to allow you to do his will. Prayer is a great help and really the life vest that got me through these times.
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That work experience reflects the fact that this world is essentially evil with only some good patches here and there.

This world became evil at the point of ego creation, since by definition ego's are in conflict with each other: ego's share resources, and when these resources are scarce, egos will in most cases grab them at all costs.

Another point of evil is sex. Wanting your neighbors wife/husband and eventually giving into the temptation if presented will gratify you but will create much pain and sorrow (spouse,family,children). The issue is important and it happens daily.
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Funny thread, Yesterday (first of sept) i once again took the time for a trip away from the ego (i took shrooms).

And i like the way you present the experience of letting the ego die and that death is nothing more then a natural thing.

But you took 5 grams, are you speaking of dried shrooms or fresh?, because i have read that for dried shrooms 3 grams is a good portion (and the amount i usually take) for fresh its about 10 grams.

But that aside, after previous journeys and experiencing things in a more natural state of mind as i see it, i really believe what you say is true, on almost every trip with shrooms it comes back to my mind that how the world(humans) are acting is so way off the path to righteousness that we are a pest to the existence of everything. Like you call it the one, i see nature and the world itself as the one.

The Ego is a powerfull thing, but a very bad one. It only causes anger, hate, misunderstanding without consideration things could be different then the beings comprehension.

For example:
People can call things drugs and say its bad for you (this is the ego acting), but few people understand and KNOW from experience it can be the other way around. Ego lets people believe things to be as they are told, without questioning, so without real understanding. Then things go wrong, when a being stops questioning to gain the knowledge of understanding, you only create a wall of nothingness (ego) behind wich many hide without reaching a conclusion from experience instead of just reading things from a book and accepting it must be like it is written on these pages.

Drugs for one is an other English word for Medicine (Drug-store, prescription drug etc.), still many consider drugs, even natural as if it is bad. If there is one thing (we are told to believe from evolution) nature created that is bad, then it is US, Humans in the current direction we are going through. But yet it only depends on the eyes and understanding of the observer.

Nature knows, everything exist in perfect balance within nature but still we believe and act as if we have nothing to do With nature. Diseases pests and other bad things exist for a reason, that reason i came to believe is to keep a balance which is sustainable for nature to flourish. Not everything we consider bad has human influence, diseases and things alike are also nature's way of saying, Hey things are getting out of hand, please understand and act to reach balance or i (nature, the one) will do it for you.

I still don't dare to say there is a god, but i always consider the fact it could be so. I often questioned myself if what we see as the world and reality is nothing more then an experiment in some lab petri-dish. It could be so, but people rather believe in some magical guy up there to save their asses.

It still comes down the us human beings of reaching understanding and acting with it so we are again Natural beings. Like we are supposed to be, in harmony with what has made us instead of killing and demolishing the very thing in existence which has brought forward US HUMANS.

Everything happens for a reason within nature to get into perfect balance, Everything done by humans to BE is a crime against nature with the penalty of ending existence.

I does not mean we as humans have to go live in caves etc. it just means we as a product of nature should consider and act as if nature is our mother, like we call earth our mother. How can you not be praising to your own parents for the very fact they created YOU, so why can't we all just act, accept and care for Nature again like we would for our parents!.

If what has created us is used for our so called advantage, we will stop to exist eventually..


Thanks for posting this great thread and again confirm for me personally that nothing happens without a reason or by coincidence.
peace
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SOOOOOO wrong.

It is not ego death that needs to occur but a transforming of service of the Spiritual man to ego
to the ego in service to the Spiritual.
It is just the same as realizing priorities of Spiritual over material but we are here and material for a reason.
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DECEPTION! Thats the name of the game in this reality. The game is how to steal from you, and both sides are watching to see how many will be stolen, i.e. one side is playing defense and the the other is the offense. At the end the count will determine the winner.

Anything, AND I MEAN ANYTHING you hear, like in this thread, could just by another ploy of the satanic one.

So guard your ASS, dont drop the soap in the shower and bend over to pick it up.

Ego death is just another way of SOUL SELLING/GRABBING. Soul stuff is the metaphysical goal that is at stake. The Moon God needs that stuff, but there are others around trying to grab it before.

If you 'wake up', i.e be permanently aware of yourself then you get to keep your stuff.

Otherwise, its going to be taken and you will just be a vechicle..

Its like the Remote Desktop Protocol RDP: "someone" just grabs the screen...
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im going to have to disagree. Jesus said to deny yourself and take up your cross. that cant be done while still trying to hold onto to material things of this world
"seek and ye shall find..."
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I experienced ego death after being mobbed out of a job and then unemployed. It happens when you come to the realization that everything you invested your life into has all of a sudden become worthless. You realize that how you viewed yourself is not how 100% of others viewed you.

OP is correct in that it will happen repeatedly. To survive in this world you do need some ego which eventually gets torn down again. And thus you are born again.

The only solution, of course, is that the kingdom of heaven is inside you. Look to your heart to discern truth, right and wrong (conscience), and beauty and ask God to allow you to do his will. Prayer is a great help and really the life vest that got me through these times.
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thanks for sharing. this is what was meant by being born again i think. When we start out we have no knowledge of ourselves (i dont think at least) and once we purge that knowledge of ourselves we are "born again"
"seek and ye shall find..."
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God has a ego too.
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Funny thread, Yesterday (first of sept) i once again took the time for a trip away from the ego (i took shrooms).

And i like the way you present the experience of letting the ego die and that death is nothing more then a natural thing.

But you took 5 grams, are you speaking of dried shrooms or fresh?, because i have read that for dried shrooms 3 grams is a good portion (and the amount i usually take) for fresh its about 10 grams.

But that aside, after previous journeys and experiencing things in a more natural state of mind as i see it, i really believe what you say is true, on almost every trip with shrooms it comes back to my mind that how the world(humans) are acting is so way off the path to righteousness that we are a pest to the existence of everything. Like you call it the one, i see nature and the world itself as the one.

The Ego is a powerfull thing, but a very bad one. It only causes anger, hate, misunderstanding without consideration things could be different then the beings comprehension.

For example:
People can call things drugs and say its bad for you (this is the ego acting), but few people understand and KNOW from experience it can be the other way around. Ego lets people believe things to be as they are told, without questioning, so without real understanding. Then things go wrong, when a being stops questioning to gain the knowledge of understanding, you only create a wall of nothingness (ego) behind wich many hide without reaching a conclusion from experience instead of just reading things from a book and accepting it must be like it is written on these pages.

Drugs for one is an other English word for Medicine (Drug-store, prescription drug etc.), still many consider drugs, even natural as if it is bad. If there is one thing (we are told to believe from evolution) nature created that is bad, then it is US, Humans in the current direction we are going through. But yet it only depends on the eyes and understanding of the observer.

Nature knows, everything exist in perfect balance within nature but still we believe and act as if we have nothing to do With nature. Diseases pests and other bad things exist for a reason, that reason i came to believe is to keep a balance which is sustainable for nature to flourish. Not everything we consider bad has human influence, diseases and things alike are also nature's way of saying, Hey things are getting out of hand, please understand and act to reach balance or i (nature, the one) will do it for you.

I still don't dare to say there is a god, but i always consider the fact it could be so. I often questioned myself if what we see as the world and reality is nothing more then an experiment in some lab petri-dish. It could be so, but people rather believe in some magical guy up there to save their asses.

It still comes down the us human beings of reaching understanding and acting with it so we are again Natural beings. Like we are supposed to be, in harmony with what has made us instead of killing and demolishing the very thing in existence which has brought forward US HUMANS.

Everything happens for a reason within nature to get into perfect balance, Everything done by humans to BE is a crime against nature with the penalty of ending existence.

I does not mean we as humans have to go live in caves etc. it just means we as a product of nature should consider and act as if nature is our mother, like we call earth our mother. How can you not be praising to your own parents for the very fact they created YOU, so why can't we all just act, accept and care for Nature again like we would for our parents!.

If what has created us is used for our so called advantage, we will stop to exist eventually..


Thanks for posting this great thread and again confirm for me personally that nothing happens without a reason or by coincidence.
peace
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yes they were dried. so it was a bit stronger dosage than average
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Never tried mushroom but heard about it, at some point of my life I wanted to achieve Ego death, looked for that through meditation but never could.

People say this and that about meditation but I never experienced anything except green light bulbs.

I think one day I will experience, there are still chains that are holding me back so my brothers and sister.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46134272


if i may offer a word of advice, trying to experience ego death is extremely counterproductive. if youre doing it for what you can get out of it im afraid your heart may be in the wrong place. ego death comes from admitting you are imperfect, completely worthless and an abomination. but i cant tell you that. you have to see it in yourself first
"seek and ye shall find..."
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Egos must be kept in check, in their proper place, for a human being to have sanity. But a person without an ego is simply worthless.

You hippie-tards never learn.

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The biggest problem is that society is designed to corrupt your ego, so some of us need the reality check. If you align who you think you are with your corrupt ego for too long, you will certainly feel like YOU are dying during ego death. I feel that it is sometimes necessary to keep myself in balance spiritually while living in an unbalanced spiritually wicked society.
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Never tried mushroom but heard about it, at some point of my life I wanted to achieve Ego death, looked for that through meditation but never could.

People say this and that about meditation but I never experienced anything except green light bulbs.

I think one day I will experience, there are still chains that are holding me back so my brothers and sister.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46134272


if i may offer a word of advice, trying to experience ego death is extremely counterproductive. if youre doing it for what you can get out of it im afraid your heart may be in the wrong place. ego death comes from admitting you are imperfect, completely worthless and an abomination. but i cant tell you that. you have to see it in yourself first
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In my experience, the most important factor is set and setting and your intentions. These make or break an experience.

These are powerful tools. Just like any powerful tool, like a jackhammer or table saw, you can injure yourself if you use them inappropriately. Have respect.
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Never tried mushroom but heard about it, at some point of my life I wanted to achieve Ego death, looked for that through meditation but never could.

People say this and that about meditation but I never experienced anything except green light bulbs.

I think one day I will experience, there are still chains that are holding me back so my brothers and sister.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46134272


if i may offer a word of advice, trying to experience ego death is extremely counterproductive. if youre doing it for what you can get out of it im afraid your heart may be in the wrong place. ego death comes from admitting you are imperfect, completely worthless and an abomination. but i cant tell you that. you have to see it in yourself first
 Quoting: thatdog


In my experience, the most important factor is set and setting and your intentions. These make or break an experience.

These are powerful tools. Just like any powerful tool, like a jackhammer or table saw, you can injure yourself if you use them inappropriately. Have respect.
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i didnt know what was going to happen to me when i took these shrooms. all i knew is that it was going to be crazy. i was incredibly humbled afterwards
"seek and ye shall find..."
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You don't need drugs. Try taking care of an elderly family member, day in and day out, and realize that you will eventually be as they are: helpless, reliant, hopeless. A very humbling experience, indeed. Wakes you up to the reality that all we experience prior to the end stage of life is what ever reality we choose to make of it. Sweating the small stuff is a vast waste of energy, all around. Kindness is better for the soul.hf
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You don't need drugs. Try taking care of an elderly family member, day in and day out, and realize that you will eventually be as they are: helpless, reliant, hopeless. A very humbling experience, indeed. Wakes you up to the reality that all we experience prior to the end stage of life is what ever reality we choose to make of it. Sweating the small stuff is a vast waste of energy, all around. Kindness is better for the soul.hf
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Keep in mind that your experiences may differ. From reading your reply, I feel that maybe you have not had the same experience as others.

Maybe some of us have found terminals to esoteric knowledge and higher levels of learning and spiritual evolution through the trance like states that tryptamine compounds bring about.

I guess the first question is have you achieved ego loss, and ,during any of these experiences, have you been contacted by intelligent entities who relay knowledge and ultimately objectives to you?
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You don't need drugs. Try taking care of an elderly family member, day in and day out, and realize that you will eventually be as they are: helpless, reliant, hopeless. A very humbling experience, indeed. Wakes you up to the reality that all we experience prior to the end stage of life is what ever reality we choose to make of it. Sweating the small stuff is a vast waste of energy, all around. Kindness is better for the soul.hf
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