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The American War Machine Is Being Tuned Up And Prepared Once Last Time

 
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While the administration and congress are concerned with gathering support for combat operations in Syria, with a particular justification being American validity and reputation around the world, their intentions and plans will ironically serve as a death knell to American legitimacy, and quite possibly America itself. I have never been one to cower down from a fight, and I fully supported and served in both Operations Enduring and Iraqi Freedom. However, that experience and others in combination with my observation of what is happening today give me absolutely no reason to support this illegal and disgraceful idea to intervene in Syria.

Have we not yet learned our lesson? Now, with common allies standing in opposition to what our leaders are calling a moral imperative, we are staged to make the same mistake, most likely for the last time. Our actions will galvanize anti-American support in a way that has never been seen before, both domestically and elsewhere, leaving other established and respected nations with no other alternative than to position themselves against us, leading to a global conflict that will not end in Syria, but here - where our complacency and arrogance have left us completely and unmistakeably vulnerable.

Based on what I have seen in threads on this website, I am fairly confident that most of you share my sentiments, and I cannot help but think most Americans, at least those engaged in current events, share these sentiments as well. I do not believe that our elected representatives will be dissuaded by public opinion, no matter how strong that may be. They either know of our opposition and think they know better, or they simply do not care. Either way, this leaves us with only one viable and moral choice, and that is kinetic and violent opposition to our own government. With the growing dissent in the highest levels of the military, this may be more effective than many of us realize. So my question to you, will we allow our government to proceed unabated by our words, or will we put our words, our values, and our principles into action?
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what make you think it's one last time? In five years when barry announces he defeated the tyrants in Syria, the same idiots will be drunk and celebrating in the streets for another victory of freedom just like when he told the world he killed a dead bin laden.

the corporations, propaganda agencies and the 'pawns' called military are working together like a well tuned machine. only God can intervene but he's been on vacation for more than 2000 years.

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you have said nothing.

a can of chicken can elaborate better.

where are you going with this nothing thread ?

please just make something up next time and scare the quackers out of us and quit this rhetorical poo. t y.
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those who try to save their lives shall lose it those who try to lose their lives shall save it..


so its time, lets get it the fuck on... time to get organized people and take NY city..
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what make you think it's one last time? In five years when barry announces he defeated the tyrants in Syria, the same idiots will be drunk and celebrating in the streets for another victory of freedom just like when he told the world he killed a dead bin laden.

the corporations, propaganda agencies and the 'pawns' called military are working together like a well tuned machine. only God can intervene but he's been on vacation for more than 2000 years.

oridin
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It'll be the last time because it'll be the last war fought on earth. Not a good thing.
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what make you think it's one last time? In five years when barry announces he defeated the tyrants in Syria, the same idiots will be drunk and celebrating in the streets for another victory of freedom just like when he told the world he killed a dead bin laden.

the corporations, propaganda agencies and the 'pawns' called military are working together like a well tuned machine. only God can intervene but he's been on vacation for more than 2000 years.

oridin
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It'll be the last time because it'll be the last war fought on earth. Not a good thing.
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Peace, at last? :P
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what make you think it's one last time? In five years when barry announces he defeated the tyrants in Syria, the same idiots will be drunk and celebrating in the streets for another victory of freedom just like when he told the world he killed a dead bin laden.

the corporations, propaganda agencies and the 'pawns' called military are working together like a well tuned machine. only God can intervene but he's been on vacation for more than 2000 years.

oridin
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^^ THIS ^^
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Obama/US Congress will have to use the military to get rid of enemies now, before USA is officially bankrupt and have to let the military rust down, like Soviet. It will happen to you too! Soon!
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you know what that will be a good thing
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While the administration and congress are concerned with gathering support for combat operations in Syria, with a particular justification being American validity and reputation around the world, their intentions and plans will ironically serve as a death knell to American legitimacy, and quite possibly America itself. I have never been one to cower down from a fight, and I fully supported and served in both Operations Enduring and Iraqi Freedom. However, that experience and others in combination with my observation of what is happening today give me absolutely no reason to support this illegal and disgraceful idea to intervene in Syria.

Have we not yet learned our lesson? Now, with common allies standing in opposition to what our leaders are calling a moral imperative, we are staged to make the same mistake, most likely for the last time. Our actions will galvanize anti-American support in a way that has never been seen before, both domestically and elsewhere, leaving other established and respected nations with no other alternative than to position themselves against us, leading to a global conflict that will not end in Syria, but here - where our complacency and arrogance have left us completely and unmistakeably vulnerable.

Based on what I have seen in threads on this website, I am fairly confident that most of you share my sentiments, and I cannot help but think most Americans, at least those engaged in current events, share these sentiments as well. I do not believe that our elected representatives will be dissuaded by public opinion, no matter how strong that may be. They either know of our opposition and think they know better, or they simply do not care. Either way, this leaves us with only one viable and moral choice, and that is kinetic and violent opposition to our own government. With the growing dissent in the highest levels of the military, this may be more effective than many of us realize. So my question to you, will we allow our government to proceed unabated by our words, or will we put our words, our values, and our principles into action?
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While the administration and congress are concerned with gathering support for combat operations in Syria, with a particular justification being American validity and reputation around the world, their intentions and plans will ironically serve as a death knell to American legitimacy, and quite possibly America itself. I have never been one to cower down from a fight, and I fully supported and served in both Operations Enduring and Iraqi Freedom. However, that experience and others in combination with my observation of what is happening today give me absolutely no reason to support this illegal and disgraceful idea to intervene in Syria.

Have we not yet learned our lesson? Now, with common allies standing in opposition to what our leaders are calling a moral imperative, we are staged to make the same mistake, most likely for the last time. Our actions will galvanize anti-American support in a way that has never been seen before, both domestically and elsewhere, leaving other established and respected nations with no other alternative than to position themselves against us, leading to a global conflict that will not end in Syria, but here - where our complacency and arrogance have left us completely and unmistakeably vulnerable.

Based on what I have seen in threads on this website, I am fairly confident that most of you share my sentiments, and I cannot help but think most Americans, at least those engaged in current events, share these sentiments as well. I do not believe that our elected representatives will be dissuaded by public opinion, no matter how strong that may be. They either know of our opposition and think they know better, or they simply do not care. Either way, this leaves us with only one viable and moral choice, and that is kinetic and violent opposition to our own government. With the growing dissent in the highest levels of the military, this may be more effective than many of us realize. So my question to you, will we allow our government to proceed unabated by our words, or will we put our words, our values, and our principles into action?
 Quoting: Rising Son


I five starred this. Thank you for your service.

My son just got home after 5 years in the Navy. I think you are right. The decision

has already been made and no amount of opposition or common sense will stand in the way.

World War III is born the day we launch missiles into Syria.
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war of any kind is as no win grouphugalways have struggled with war and the New Testament , just wish we could use love 1st
Proverbs 15:1
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On to the Little Big Horn and Glory!
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Maybe the very last time!?
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its already over.

the people win.

god loves his house.
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Is this to be the "Change We Can Believe In." Forgive me if I am a little dubious about it.

We, the people, have still not been told anything of substance, shown any conclusive evidence, treated with any modicum of respect, or considered as anything but slaves. I consider that to be a great irony.

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COINTELPRO much OP?
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World War III is born the day we launch missiles into Syria.
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THIS!
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Is this to be the "Change We Can Believe In." Forgive me if I am a little dubious about it.

We, the people, have still not been told anything of substance, shown any conclusive evidence, treated with any modicum of respect, or considered as anything but slaves. I consider that to be a great irony.

whiteyshock
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he changed, or i am wrong.

no war if i am right though.
only the song of silence soothes every soul.
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While the administration and congress are concerned with gathering support for combat operations in Syria, with a particular justification being American validity and reputation around the world, their intentions and plans will ironically serve as a death knell to American legitimacy, and quite possibly America itself. I have never been one to cower down from a fight, and I fully supported and served in both Operations Enduring and Iraqi Freedom. However, that experience and others in combination with my observation of what is happening today give me absolutely no reason to support this illegal and disgraceful idea to intervene in Syria.

Have we not yet learned our lesson? Now, with common allies standing in opposition to what our leaders are calling a moral imperative, we are staged to make the same mistake, most likely for the last time. Our actions will galvanize anti-American support in a way that has never been seen before, both domestically and elsewhere, leaving other established and respected nations with no other alternative than to position themselves against us, leading to a global conflict that will not end in Syria, but here - where our complacency and arrogance have left us completely and unmistakeably vulnerable.

Based on what I have seen in threads on this website, I am fairly confident that most of you share my sentiments, and I cannot help but think most Americans, at least those engaged in current events, share these sentiments as well. I do not believe that our elected representatives will be dissuaded by public opinion, no matter how strong that may be. They either know of our opposition and think they know better, or they simply do not care. Either way, this leaves us with only one viable and moral choice, and that is kinetic and violent opposition to our own government. With the growing dissent in the highest levels of the military, this may be more effective than many of us realize. So my question to you, will we allow our government to proceed unabated by our words, or will we put our words, our values, and our principles into action?
 Quoting: Rising Son


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If you are Patriotic and/or if you care about your country and the well being of all the people of the world, get pissed at what they are trying to do!! Goddamn get pissed and call your Congressional Representatives to tell them NO WAR in SYRIA period. Then send them emails with the same message. Find a No War in Syria protest/rally in your area and show your support and get involved. If there isn't one in your area, start one yourself! This is all unfolding in a very bad way and it is not in the best interest of the Syrian people, the American people or the people of the world to attack Syria. It is solely in the interest of the Military Industrial Complex who have hijacked our country!

[link to www.contactingthecongress.org]
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Get involved with protests and rallies in your city... and if there aren't any, start your own! Make a lot of noise and make sure they hear us!!!

This is what we are doing in Portland, Oregon.
Monday Sept 9, 2013 @4pm.

[link to www.facebook.com (secure)]

Congress comes back into session on Monday September 9, and will be taking up President Obama's bill for the authorization to use military force against Syria. On that day at 4pm we will gather at the Federal Building in downtown Portland, the symbol of the federal government in our city. We will surround the building, forming a human chain, and raise our voice in chant and song to let the our Congress know that we do not support war!

This is not the time to lay around bitching about how fucked up the system is.
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Nosty sez that a great fleet will be sunk in the gulf of Arabia.
Another place he sez famine will become "universal."
Wake up. All time is now and space does not exist.
That is why prophecy works.
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you have said nothing.

a can of chicken can elaborate better.

where are you going with this nothing thread ?

please just make something up next time and scare the quackers out of us and quit this rhetorical poo. t y.
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OP has written an eloquent post, while you can barely write four hollow sentences, echoing the emptiness inside you. Get back to your cave!
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First I would like to apologize to all 'doom tards' for the content of this post.

Humanity is beginning a long slow process to end war. People will disagree, but every war since Vietnam has been fiercely challenged by the public. People, in general, are seeing that its not glamorous or cool in any way. It will be decades or centuries before we live in total peace but the people alive right now will be remembered in the future as the people who started the peace movement.
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*smiles in hope grandchildren read this
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Nosty sez that a great fleet will be sunk in the gulf of Arabia.
Another place he sez famine will become "universal."
Wake up. All time is now and space does not exist.
That is why prophecy works.
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sloppily wickerdoo fanboozlee wiggle fart.

yep, i fart in your general direction.
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First I would like to apologize to all 'doom tards' for the content of this post.

Humanity is beginning a long slow process to end war. People will disagree, but every war since Vietnam has been fiercely challenged by the public. People, in general, are seeing that its not glamorous or cool in any way. It will be decades or centuries before we live in total peace but the people alive right now will be remembered in the future as the people who started the peace movement.
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You are delusional. Read the Iron Mountain Report first and talk later.
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While the administration and congress are concerned with gathering support for combat operations in Syria, with a particular justification being American validity and reputation around the world, their intentions and plans will ironically serve as a death knell to American legitimacy, and quite possibly America itself. I have never been one to cower down from a fight, and I fully supported and served in both Operations Enduring and Iraqi Freedom. However, that experience and others in combination with my observation of what is happening today give me absolutely no reason to support this illegal and disgraceful idea to intervene in Syria.

Have we not yet learned our lesson? Now, with common allies standing in opposition to what our leaders are calling a moral imperative, we are staged to make the same mistake, most likely for the last time. Our actions will galvanize anti-American support in a way that has never been seen before, both domestically and elsewhere, leaving other established and respected nations with no other alternative than to position themselves against us, leading to a global conflict that will not end in Syria, but here - where our complacency and arrogance have left us completely and unmistakeably vulnerable.

Based on what I have seen in threads on this website, I am fairly confident that most of you share my sentiments, and I cannot help but think most Americans, at least those engaged in current events, share these sentiments as well. I do not believe that our elected representatives will be dissuaded by public opinion, no matter how strong that may be. They either know of our opposition and think they know better, or they simply do not care. Either way, this leaves us with only one viable and moral choice, and that is kinetic and violent opposition to our own government. With the growing dissent in the highest levels of the military, this may be more effective than many of us realize. So my question to you, will we allow our government to proceed unabated by our words, or will we put our words, our values, and our principles into action?
 Quoting: Rising Son



i understand and respect your concern sir, but is there a problem if nothing happens this will give the syrian authority the ability to continue to gas its own people with chem weapons and more children, women and the elderly will perrish until no human is left in that part of the world, surely that's not right either?

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