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What is it with CHRISTIANS and their worship of HELL??

 
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Really? You sure do seem to have strong opinions on it. Who are you trying to convince? Us or yourself that the lake of fire is not an eternal reality? I think you do so to comfort yourself, otherwise, why bother to try and convince us of your beliefs on it and link to silly ignorant sites that support your view? Are you even a Christian?
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Don't take my word for it. Listen to what the scriptural analysis in the bible and the history of the church has to say about it:

[link to www.tentmaker.org]
[link to bible-truths.com]
[link to www.christianspiritualism.org]

Do you have the courage to read through these links?

If you mock again, I'll know the answer...
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They are frightened of truth.

All they have to do it LOOK.

But just like the JWS who are too afraid to do their research because they are told anyone who says Jesis is God is evil and a cult..they too have been taught that anyone who says God is not a monster is also a cult.

I know how cults work.
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for ever and ever—Greek, "unto ages of ages."

And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever,.... That is, the smoke of that fire which torments them will for ever arise; or, in other words, there will be no end of their torment; hence their misery is called everlasting fire, everlasting punishment, and everlasting destruction,

Matthew 25:41

King James Version (KJV)

41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
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for ever and ever—Greek, "unto ages of ages."

And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever,.... That is, the smoke of that fire which torments them will for ever arise; or, in other words, there will be no end of their torment; hence their misery is called everlasting fire, everlasting punishment, and everlasting destruction,

Matthew 25:41

King James Version (KJV)

41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46179123


So the "forever" lasts every bit as long as Jonah was inside the whale? Fair enough.
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for ever and ever—Greek, "unto ages of ages."

And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever,.... That is, the smoke of that fire which torments them will for ever arise; or, in other words, there will be no end of their torment; hence their misery is called everlasting fire, everlasting punishment, and everlasting destruction,

Matthew 25:41

King James Version (KJV)

41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46179123


Let me guess?

Esword or strongs..right??

And think..how can you have a PLURAL of a PLURAL.?

Look deeper...them translators did NOT know grammar.
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for ever and ever—Greek, "unto ages of ages."

And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever,.... That is, the smoke of that fire which torments them will for ever arise; or, in other words, there will be no end of their torment; hence their misery is called everlasting fire, everlasting punishment, and everlasting destruction,

Matthew 25:41

King James Version (KJV)

41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46179123


So the "forever" lasts every bit as long as Jonah was inside the whale? Fair enough.
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Dont forget sodom..still burning forever.
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for ever and ever—Greek, "unto ages of ages."

And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever,.... That is, the smoke of that fire which torments them will for ever arise; or, in other words, there will be no end of their torment; hence their misery is called everlasting fire, everlasting punishment, and everlasting destruction,

Matthew 25:41

King James Version (KJV)

41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46179123


Let me guess?

Esword or strongs..right??

And think..how can you have a PLURAL of a PLURAL.?

Look deeper...them translators did NOT know grammar.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46254519


[link to www.blueletterbible.org]
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for ever and ever—Greek, "unto ages of ages."

And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever,.... That is, the smoke of that fire which torments them will for ever arise; or, in other words, there will be no end of their torment; hence their misery is called everlasting fire, everlasting punishment, and everlasting destruction,

Matthew 25:41

King James Version (KJV)

41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46179123


So the "forever" lasts every bit as long as Jonah was inside the whale? Fair enough.
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Dont forget sodom..still burning forever.
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lol :)
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for ever and ever—Greek, "unto ages of ages."

And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever,.... That is, the smoke of that fire which torments them will for ever arise; or, in other words, there will be no end of their torment; hence their misery is called everlasting fire, everlasting punishment, and everlasting destruction,

Matthew 25:41

King James Version (KJV)

41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46179123


Let me guess?

Esword or strongs..right??

And think..how can you have a PLURAL of a PLURAL.?

Look deeper...them translators did NOT know grammar.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46254519


[link to www.blueletterbible.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46179123


Mat 6:13

And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. G165 Amen.
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for ever and ever—Greek, "unto ages of ages."

And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever,.... That is, the smoke of that fire which torments them will for ever arise; or, in other words, there will be no end of their torment; hence their misery is called everlasting fire, everlasting punishment, and everlasting destruction,

Matthew 25:41

King James Version (KJV)

41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46179123


Let me guess?

Esword or strongs..right??

And think..how can you have a PLURAL of a PLURAL.?

Look deeper...them translators did NOT know grammar.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46254519


[link to www.blueletterbible.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46179123


Mat 6:13

And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. G165 Amen.
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Lexicon :: Strong's G165 - aiōn
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Let me guess?

Esword or strongs..right??

And think..how can you have a PLURAL of a PLURAL.?

Look deeper...them translators did NOT know grammar.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46254519


[link to www.blueletterbible.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46179123


Mat 6:13

And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. G165 Amen.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46179123


Lexicon :: Strong's G165 - aion.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46179123
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Let me guess?

Esword or strongs..right??

And think..how can you have a PLURAL of a PLURAL.?

Look deeper...them translators did NOT know grammar.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46254519


[link to www.blueletterbible.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46179123


Mat 6:13

And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. G165 Amen.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46179123


Lexicon :: Strong's G165 - aiōn
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46179123


Strongs..I thought so.

Now if you had bothered to get past your programming and go look at those other sites it really tears big holes in strongs so called concordance.

Why wont you do that?

You afraid of letting go of hell?

Is torture and the screaming of billions forever THAT precious to you?
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Mat 6:13

And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. G165 Amen.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46179123


Lexicon :: Strong's G165 - aiōn
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46179123


Strongs..I thought so.

Now if you had bothered to get past your programming and go look at those other sites it really tears big holes in strongs so called concordance.

Why wont you do that?

You afraid of letting go of hell?

Is torture and the screaming of billions forever THAT precious to you?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46254519


There is nothing wrong with strongs. You are only saying this because it contradicts your earlier comments. If you feel you can prove me wrong by using other sites, well then, go right ahead. I will wait. But your argument is very weak and lame.
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Mat 6:13

And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. G165 Amen.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46179123


Lexicon :: Strong's G165 - aiōn
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46179123


Strongs..I thought so.

Now if you had bothered to get past your programming and go look at those other sites it really tears big holes in strongs so called concordance.

Why wont you do that?

You afraid of letting go of hell?

Is torture and the screaming of billions forever THAT precious to you?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46254519


There is nothing wrong with strongs. You are only saying this because it contradicts your earlier comments. If you feel you can prove me wrong by using other sites, well then, go right ahead. I will wait. But your argument is very weak and lame.
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And I used blueletterbible.
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Mat 6:13

And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. G165 Amen.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46179123


Lexicon :: Strong's G165 - aiōn
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46179123


Strongs..I thought so.

Now if you had bothered to get past your programming and go look at those other sites it really tears big holes in strongs so called concordance.

Why wont you do that?

You afraid of letting go of hell?

Is torture and the screaming of billions forever THAT precious to you?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46254519


There is nothing wrong with strongs. You are only saying this because it contradicts your earlier comments. If you feel you can prove me wrong by using other sites, well then, go right ahead. I will wait. But your argument is very weak and lame.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46179123


Three years ago I would have said the same thing.

I went to those sites to debunk them.

I couldnt.

Why dont you give it a shot??

All you have to LOSE is HELL and FEAR...or do you like those concepts too much?
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Lexicon :: Strong's G165 - aiōn
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Strongs..I thought so.

Now if you had bothered to get past your programming and go look at those other sites it really tears big holes in strongs so called concordance.

Why wont you do that?

You afraid of letting go of hell?

Is torture and the screaming of billions forever THAT precious to you?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46254519


There is nothing wrong with strongs. You are only saying this because it contradicts your earlier comments. If you feel you can prove me wrong by using other sites, well then, go right ahead. I will wait. But your argument is very weak and lame.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46179123


Three years ago I would have said the same thing.

I went to those sites to debunk them.

I couldnt.

Why dont you give it a shot??

All you have to LOSE is HELL and FEAR...or do you like those concepts too much?
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You are the one who is making claims that strongs is wrong and the other sites are right so it is on you to prove it or else you are clearly full of shite which I believe you are.

Your convictions are clearly weak.
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Strongs..I thought so.

Now if you had bothered to get past your programming and go look at those other sites it really tears big holes in strongs so called concordance.

Why wont you do that?

You afraid of letting go of hell?

Is torture and the screaming of billions forever THAT precious to you?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46254519


There is nothing wrong with strongs. You are only saying this because it contradicts your earlier comments. If you feel you can prove me wrong by using other sites, well then, go right ahead. I will wait. But your argument is very weak and lame.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46179123


Three years ago I would have said the same thing.

I went to those sites to debunk them.

I couldnt.

Why dont you give it a shot??

All you have to LOSE is HELL and FEAR...or do you like those concepts too much?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46254519


You are the one who is making claims that strongs is wrong and the other sites are right so it is on you to prove it or else you are clearly full of shite which I believe you are.

Your convictions are clearly weak.
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Well why dont you go to those sites and prove them wrong?

And my convictions are VERY strong because you have yet to debunk even ONE of them.
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There is nothing wrong with strongs. You are only saying this because it contradicts your earlier comments. If you feel you can prove me wrong by using other sites, well then, go right ahead. I will wait. But your argument is very weak and lame.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46179123


Three years ago I would have said the same thing.

I went to those sites to debunk them.

I couldnt.

Why dont you give it a shot??

All you have to LOSE is HELL and FEAR...or do you like those concepts too much?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46254519


You are the one who is making claims that strongs is wrong and the other sites are right so it is on you to prove it or else you are clearly full of shite which I believe you are.

Your convictions are clearly weak.
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Well why dont you go to those sites and prove them wrong?

And my convictions are VERY strong because you have yet to debunk even ONE of them.
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Because I don't need to, I just proved my point from the Greek translations. The same word that refers to eternal hellfire is used in regards to God's eternal kingdom. Checkmate. And you are the one making the claim that the other sites are right and my one is wrong so it is on you to prove it or else be exposed as a bullshitter which you so clearly are because if you were speaking the Truth, you would have already proven these things. So much fail from you.
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Because I don't need to, I just proved my point from the Greek translations. The same word that refers to eternal hellfire is used in regards to God's eternal kingdom.
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I have no problem with this - they're both temporary. Per 1 Corinthians 15, Christ reigns "until all things are under His feet", at which point Christ will "subject" Himself back to the Father. The mechanics of this I don't know yet, but eventually the whole playing field will change, and God will become "all in all". I personally believe at that stage there will no such distinctions as "saved" or "unsaved".
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Three years ago I would have said the same thing.

I went to those sites to debunk them.

I couldnt.

Why dont you give it a shot??

All you have to LOSE is HELL and FEAR...or do you like those concepts too much?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46254519


You are the one who is making claims that strongs is wrong and the other sites are right so it is on you to prove it or else you are clearly full of shite which I believe you are.

Your convictions are clearly weak.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46179123


Well why dont you go to those sites and prove them wrong?

And my convictions are VERY strong because you have yet to debunk even ONE of them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46254519


Because I don't need to, I just proved my point from the Greek translations. The same word that refers to eternal hellfire is used in regards to God's eternal kingdom. Checkmate. And you are the one making the claim that the other sites are right and my one is wrong so it is on you to prove it or else be exposed as a bullshitter which you so clearly are because if you were speaking the Truth, you would have already proven these things. So much fail from you.
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Those sites DO prove it TOTALLY.

But you are too afraid to go and LOOK.

You programming wont LET you see anything you dont WANT to see..and consequantly you know ONLY what you saw.

Willfully ignorant..you dont WANT to have any other view BUT what you know.

But..I used to be the same too..so I know what you are feeling..what drives you..why you are defending a god of hell..its all the false teacvhings that have gotten into your head..JUST like they used to be in mine.

I went to those sites to crap on them..to debunk them.

Apparently my convictions were stronger than yours because..I WENT there to prove em wrong.

YOU wont even go there to do that..to afraid your tower of death may come tumbling down.

So rather than have some courage and go look for yourself..even if to debunk..you lash out at me and call me a bulshitter.

I am challenging you now to debunk those sites.

Go on...lets see how strong YOUR convictions are.

See if they stand the test of scrutiny.

Or are you going to be like the JW'sd who also hear only what they want to hear...and know only what they heard?
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Because I don't need to, I just proved my point from the Greek translations. The same word that refers to eternal hellfire is used in regards to God's eternal kingdom.
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I have no problem with this - they're both temporary. Per 1 Corinthians 15, Christ reigns "until all things are under His feet", at which point Christ will "subject" Himself back to the Father. The mechanics of this I don't know yet, but eventually the whole playing field will change, and God will become "all in all". I personally believe at that stage there will no such distinctions as "saved" or "unsaved".
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Nonsense.
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You are the one who is making claims that strongs is wrong and the other sites are right so it is on you to prove it or else you are clearly full of shite which I believe you are.

Your convictions are clearly weak.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46179123


Well why dont you go to those sites and prove them wrong?

And my convictions are VERY strong because you have yet to debunk even ONE of them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46254519


Because I don't need to, I just proved my point from the Greek translations. The same word that refers to eternal hellfire is used in regards to God's eternal kingdom. Checkmate. And you are the one making the claim that the other sites are right and my one is wrong so it is on you to prove it or else be exposed as a bullshitter which you so clearly are because if you were speaking the Truth, you would have already proven these things. So much fail from you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46179123


Those sites DO prove it TOTALLY.

But you are too afraid to go and LOOK.

You programming wont LET you see anything you dont WANT to see..and consequantly you know ONLY what you saw.

Willfully ignorant..you dont WANT to have any other view BUT what you know.

But..I used to be the same too..so I know what you are feeling..what drives you..why you are defending a god of hell..its all the false teacvhings that have gotten into your head..JUST like they used to be in mine.

I went to those sites to crap on them..to debunk them.

Apparently my convictions were stronger than yours because..I WENT there to prove em wrong.

YOU wont even go there to do that..to afraid your tower of death may come tumbling down.

So rather than have some courage and go look for yourself..even if to debunk..you lash out at me and call me a bulshitter.

I am challenging you now to debunk those sites.

Go on...lets see how strong YOUR convictions are.

See if they stand the test of scrutiny.

Or are you going to be like the JW'sd who also hear only what they want to hear...and know only what they heard?
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Your projections are absurd much like your arguments.
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Because I don't need to, I just proved my point from the Greek translations. The same word that refers to eternal hellfire is used in regards to God's eternal kingdom.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46179123


I have no problem with this - they're both temporary. Per 1 Corinthians 15, Christ reigns "until all things are under His feet", at which point Christ will "subject" Himself back to the Father. The mechanics of this I don't know yet, but eventually the whole playing field will change, and God will become "all in all". I personally believe at that stage there will no such distinctions as "saved" or "unsaved".
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Nonsense.
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I know, right?

cheers
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Because I don't need to, I just proved my point from the Greek translations. The same word that refers to eternal hellfire is used in regards to God's eternal kingdom.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46179123


I have no problem with this - they're both temporary. Per 1 Corinthians 15, Christ reigns "until all things are under His feet", at which point Christ will "subject" Himself back to the Father. The mechanics of this I don't know yet, but eventually the whole playing field will change, and God will become "all in all". I personally believe at that stage there will no such distinctions as "saved" or "unsaved".
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Nonsense.
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I know, right?

cheers
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Yeah.
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Well why dont you go to those sites and prove them wrong?

And my convictions are VERY strong because you have yet to debunk even ONE of them.
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Because I don't need to, I just proved my point from the Greek translations. The same word that refers to eternal hellfire is used in regards to God's eternal kingdom. Checkmate. And you are the one making the claim that the other sites are right and my one is wrong so it is on you to prove it or else be exposed as a bullshitter which you so clearly are because if you were speaking the Truth, you would have already proven these things. So much fail from you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46179123


Those sites DO prove it TOTALLY.

But you are too afraid to go and LOOK.

You programming wont LET you see anything you dont WANT to see..and consequantly you know ONLY what you saw.

Willfully ignorant..you dont WANT to have any other view BUT what you know.

But..I used to be the same too..so I know what you are feeling..what drives you..why you are defending a god of hell..its all the false teacvhings that have gotten into your head..JUST like they used to be in mine.

I went to those sites to crap on them..to debunk them.

Apparently my convictions were stronger than yours because..I WENT there to prove em wrong.

YOU wont even go there to do that..to afraid your tower of death may come tumbling down.

So rather than have some courage and go look for yourself..even if to debunk..you lash out at me and call me a bulshitter.

I am challenging you now to debunk those sites.

Go on...lets see how strong YOUR convictions are.

See if they stand the test of scrutiny.

Or are you going to be like the JW'sd who also hear only what they want to hear...and know only what they heard?
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Your projections are absurd much like your arguments.
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If they are so absurd them prove me wrong.

But you cant.

You refuse to even look.

You arrogance wont let you.

A real FRUIT of the spirit..like this guy whos hell I trod on.

Thread: Christian LOVE at its finets..brought to you by the HELL screamers.

He is one of your pals.

You can curse and spit together.

One big happy family yes?
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CIA your shilling doesnt work here we laugh at you..
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CIA your shilling doesnt work here we laugh at you..
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HAHAHAHA

CIA??

Now ive heard it all.

But seeing as you mention them..and they are alogned with the illuminati..then they would be at the forfront of promoting that God is a monster yes?\


THEY would promote hell...and if what they say is true..

I wonder what dark sadistic thoughts of dark sinister glee and joy passed through gods mind as he thought up and invented every torture device in hell(It would take a VERY dark and evil mind to even think of those things,,let alone IMPLEMENT THEM)..and then looking forward through time saw his ghastly creation in full effect on trillions of helplessly screaming beings he was just about to bring into being KNOWING they were all headed for the plce HE created for them to BURN IN.

Nice plan eh?..and thats not good news..its pure EVIL.

But its FREE WILL you say..

Whats FREE about it?

If I was to hold a gun to your head and tell you to be my friend and love me...would that be a FREE choice..seeing as the penalty for saying NO to my wonderful offer is to have your brains blown out?

Thats what they SAY that God says to us..but worse..take his offer or be satanically and sadistically tortured without mercy, pity, compassion or letup forver and ever.

So much for free will.


But then you might say people are only angry at god because they know deep down whats coming to them...

How can anyone KNOW whats coming to them?

Has God showed everyone on earth whats on the other side?

NO he hasnt..and he never will.

What we DO have is about 50,000 + religions all saying something different and all contradicting eachother and all with a different ending..so how is THAT God showing everyone whats coming to them?

Just like God I have children myself and they love me, not because I threaten to beat the shit outta them when they stuff up..but because I am fair and loving and never let a moment pass without thinking of their wellbeing and loving them.

Our father in heaven, being the perfect parent, MUST be by defenition WAY more caring and thoughtful and loving and fair and compassionate than I could ever be.

Now..if I was to be JUST LIKE the God that the vast majority of christians preach.....I would always be yelling at my children..always be criticizing every mistake they make and flogging the absolute CRAP outta them when they fail.

And when they rebell..as kids under those circumstances WOULD do..I would capture them and begin to skin them alive real slow..and turn a deaf ear to their screams for mercy as I pour boiling sulphur all over them.

THATS what the God currently taught in christianity is PORTRAYED as...a harsh torture loving unfair beast with zero compassion and bugger all mercy.

So lets get something straight about god ONCE and for all and STOP THIS EVIL SATANIC SLANDER of LOVE ITSELF.

God IS LOVE and IN HIM there is NO DARKNESS AT ALL..NONE!!!...he is NOT an unfair sadistic BLACKMAILING TORTURE LOVING TYRANT..nor DOES HE HAVE ANY DARKNESS IN HIM AT ALL..AND FOR HIM TO CREATE HELL WITH ALL ITS AGONY AND MERCILESSLY RUTHLESS TORTURE, WOULD TAKE A REAL BLACK MERCILESS HEART TO NOT ONLY CREATE IT..BUT TO RUN IT AND TURN A BLIND EYE TO THE AGONISING SCREAMS OF BILLIONS..BILLIONS THAT INCLUDE OUR PARENTS..OUR SIBLINGS..OUR GRANDPARENTS..OUR CHILDREN..all OUR LOVED ONES TORTURED WITHOUT MERCY, LETUP, COMPASSION, PITY, OR REMORE.

And last I heard he said his mercy endures forever..

Where oh where is the MERCY in burning BILLONS of his beings..beings HE KNEW WELL IN ADVANCE would be going there?

YET STILL..you say he brought them into being..ONLY TO TORTURE THEM FOREVER.??

THATS THE LIE..he is NOT A MERCILESS BASTARD.

THE TRUTH..is that he is WHAT he SAYS he is..which is LOVE.

Yes..he does have justice..but its FAIR..and people DO reap what they sow to the MEASURE they sowed it...not a stipe more.

It said in the bible that those who KNEW the truth but didnt do it..will receive many blows..NOT INFINITE blows..and those who did NOT know the truth and did wrong..would recieve FEW blows.(But they STILL get blows)..ALL reap what they sow..IN JUSTICE and fairness.

ALL get judged ACCORDING to their works..NOWHERE in the bible does it say we are judged according to whether we are christians or not.
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I have no problem with this - they're both temporary. Per 1 Corinthians 15, Christ reigns "until all things are under His feet", at which point Christ will "subject" Himself back to the Father. The mechanics of this I don't know yet, but eventually the whole playing field will change, and God will become "all in all". I personally believe at that stage there will no such distinctions as "saved" or "unsaved".
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Nonsense.
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I know, right?

cheers
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Yeah.
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Eternal" Punishment (Matthew 25:46) Is NOT Found In The Greek New Testament.

The entire concept of eternal or everlasting punishment hinges primarily on a single verse of Scripture-- Matthew 25:46. This is the only place in the entire Bible where we find these two words together AND only in some Bibles. There are over a dozen English translations which do NOT contain the concept of "eternal punishment" on ANY of their pages, NOR the pagan concept of Hell.

The Greek form for "everlasting punishment" in Matthew 25:46 is ”kolasin aionion." Kolasin is a noun in the accusative form, singular voice, feminine gender and means "punishment, chastening, correction, to cut-off as in pruning a tree to bare more fruit." "Aionion" is the adjective form of "aion," in the singular form and means "pertaining to an eon or age, an indeterminate period of time." (Note: the two words in many, not all translations become reversed when bringing the Greek into English, that is, "kolasin aionion" literally punishment everlasting is reversed to everlasting punishment so as to make better sense in English.)

"Aionion," as shown above, is the singular form of the adjective of the Greek noun "aion." Many people unfamiliar with the Greek do not realize that the endings of the same word change (inflection) to indicate its mood, case, gender, etc. Therefore, "aionion" may appear with different endings. "Aionion, aioniou, aionios," for example, are all different inflections of the adjective form of the noun "aion."

The noun "aion" in Greek literature has always meant "an indeterminate period of time. It could be as short as the time Jonah spent in the belly of a fish (three days or nights even though the KJV has him in the "belly of Hell" "forever," obviously a mistranslation; see Jonah 2:2, 2:6.), the length of a man's life, or as long as an age.

The Bible speaks of at least 5 "aions" and perhaps many more. If there were "aions" in the past, then aions must have an end. The New Testament writers spoke of "the present wicked aion" which ended during that very generation. Obviously, it was followed by another "aion"-- the "aion" in which we presently live. If there are "aions" to come, it must mean that this one we live in will also end.

There is a verse which says "the consummation of the aions" proving that each "aion" ends. So how can they be eternal?
There is "the coming eon" (Matt.10:30, Luke 18:30
There is "the present wicked eon" (Gal.1:4)
There is "the oncoming eons (future)(Eph.2:7)
There is "the conclusion of the eon (present) (Mt.13:39,40)
There is "the secret concealed from the eons (past) (Eph.3:9)

Plainly, the Greek word "aion" transliterated "eon" cannot mean "eternal." A study into the Greek of the Biblical period and before will bear this out.

"Aionion" is the adjective of the noun "aion."

Since grammar rules mandate an adjective CANNOT take on a greater force than its noun form, it is evident that "aionion" in any of its adjective forms (ios, ou, on) CANNOT possible mean "everlasting" or anything remotely indicating eternity or unending time.

For example, "hourly" cannot mean "pertaining to days, weeks, months, or years. The word MUST mean "pertaining to an hour." Therefore, "aionion," the adjective form of the noun "aion" which clearly means a period of indeterminate TIME, CANNOT mean, "forever and ever, eternal, everlasting, eternity, etc." or other words which connote timelessness or unending ages.

Therefore, those many Bibles which do NOT contain the teaching of everlasting punishment or Hell are true to the original languages of Greek and Hebrew. Those which teach everlasting punishment or Hell are false. Scholars are just as easily subjected to the "traditions of the elders" as the rest of us. It's time to let the original Greek and Hebrew languages of the Bible break down the traditions of men.

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THE GREEK WORD AIÓN -- AIÓNIOS, TRANSLATED Everlasting -- Eternal ( Book)
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ill see you in Hell op, only I will be seeing you from heaven. laughing at you as you flop around in utter torment in flames lol
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I have never encountered such a dark heareted hate filled bunch of people. They say they have love, but all you hear from them is hate and evil threats of sadistic torture from this god that they say loves you.

They are rude and arrogant and when they talk of death and tribulation and hell and torture a darkness enters their eyes. You can see it come over them like a shadow.

They almost come in their pants on the spot as they, with dark sinister joy, go into great detail about what they want to see happen to just about everbody on the planet, and then they get even darker as they describe the torments that they say god will do to all those in hell.

They are like tortures who get a dark sadsitic pleasure in the screams of others.

Evil to the core and black of heart.

The only god they know is darkness and evil.

They always quite that scripture about "telling who a person really serves by their fruits"

They should take a good long look at the evil darness and hate that gushes from them.

Thats a good indicator to all just WHICH "God" they are in league with.
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