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RUSSIA: Syria "Full-scale Wars, Even with Nuclear Weapons."

 
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Folks, please watch Russia's actions carefullyin the hours, days and weeks ahead.

The only thing more foolish than US military intervention in Syria is the belief that the Russians are going to simply allow that to happen.

Folks, be discerning as the MSM puts words in the Russians' mouth.

Just as Obama drew his 'red line', Russia did, too, and they have been for the last 18 months.

Russia has made a massive economic, political and military investment in Syria. Its fair to say Syria's security is deeply entertwined with Russia's.

Just last year,on May 12, 2012 Russia warned the US that intervention against Syria would lead to "full-scale wars, even with nuclear weapons."
[link to www.youtube.com]

Just another bluff? Maybe, Maybe-not, but:

Just one year ago, Russia held it's largest Nuclear War excercise in 20 years, leaving US defense officials 'puzzled'.

This truly has all the makings of WWIII - be alert. At the very least, we've entered into a situation every bit as dangerous as the Cuban Missile Crisis without a JFK to lead us out.
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Wont happen. The capitalist elite in Russia will negotiate more concessions, Assad will get his arse handed to him. In a year or so, the Arabs will be more integrated in the global capitalist system and crap from China will get cheaper.

You and your kind will increasingly become even more despondent when you realise that capitalism is only getting more deeper as it takes over all aspects of our lives and the way we consume.
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Wont happen. The capitalist elite in Russia will negotiate more concessions, Assad will get his arse handed to him. In a year or so, the Arabs will be more integrated in the global capitalist system and crap from China will get cheaper.

You and your kind will increasingly become even more despondent when you realise that capitalism is only getting more deeper as it takes over all aspects of our lives and the way we consume.
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What sort of concession did you have in mind that would yield the Russian Navy's retreat from the Mediterranean, the loss of $20B USD in infrastructure investment, $4B USD in annual weapons purchases, immensely valuable gas exploration and pipeline contracts, etc, etc, etc....not to mention the national embarrassment that would no doubt make their #1 foreign policy objective (rebuilding the former soviet states] impossible.

I do get what you're saying, but force is a major component of capitalism.
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Russians have been stating there position very clearly.
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Wont happen. The capitalist elite in Russia will negotiate more concessions, Assad will get his arse handed to him. In a year or so, the Arabs will be more integrated in the global capitalist system and crap from China will get cheaper.

You and your kind will increasingly become even more despondent when you realise that capitalism is only getting more deeper as it takes over all aspects of our lives and the way we consume.
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What sort of concession did you have in mind that would yield the Russian Navy's retreat from the Mediterranean, the loss of $20B USD in infrastructure investment, $4B USD in annual weapons purchases, immensely valuable gas exploration and pipeline contracts, etc, etc, etc....not to mention the national embarrassment that would no doubt make their #1 foreign policy objective (rebuilding the former soviet states] impossible.

I do get what you're saying, but force is a major component of capitalism.
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Most of the above is now owned by global capital so really, it's all a smoke screen. If you consider that the world's richest have all their monies in one basket and that they then apportion up the world between them, why would they fight.

The top dogs are the English as they invented capitalism but in reality the Russians play no major part in capitalism. The Chinese get their cocks massaged as they control and underpay their workers with such style....very profitable to invest in. The Russian elite of course would like to be higher up and get their cocks massaged as well but in reality contribute very little unlike the Chinese. All they have left is their old cold war weapons which they use from time to time. But at the end of the day, they always give in.

Assad's problem is that he hassled the Jews and that was a big mistake on his part. It was only a matter of time before he was taken out. That was Ghadaffis fate as well although in that instance, it was the Brits who gunned for him.

Not only will there be no war, but globalism is going to get even more deeper.
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Wont happen. The capitalist elite in Russia will negotiate more concessions, Assad will get his arse handed to him. In a year or so, the Arabs will be more integrated in the global capitalist system and crap from China will get cheaper.

You and your kind will increasingly become even more despondent when you realise that capitalism is only getting more deeper as it takes over all aspects of our lives and the way we consume.
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"Little knowledge is dangerous" Mao Tsedong
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And "know your enemy".
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Might be a good time to read this! especially about the destruction of mystery babylon on page 2

Thread: The ark of the covenant no longer rests with the United States but, now Russia!
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Russians have been stating there position very clearly.
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Really?

[link to www.theguardian.com]
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Wont happen. The capitalist elite in Russia will negotiate more concessions, Assad will get his arse handed to him. In a year or so, the Arabs will be more integrated in the global capitalist system and crap from China will get cheaper.

You and your kind will increasingly become even more despondent when you realise that capitalism is only getting more deeper as it takes over all aspects of our lives and the way we consume.
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"Little knowledge is dangerous" Mao Tsedong
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Mao was a consumate salesmen and he sold you lots of meaningless sayings. There is only one that matters in my books.

They that has try their damndest to remain on the "has" side of the fence.
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Estimates as to the size of the Israeli nuclear arsenal vary between 75 and 400 nuclear warheads, with most estimates at less than 200 warheads. It is estimated that the Israel nuclear deterrent force has the ability to deliver them by intermediate-range ballistic missile, intercontinental ballistic missile, aircraft, and submarine-launched cruise missile
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Russia had it big military and military aircraft show yesterday showing off its latest and greatest... Interesting timing
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Wont happen. The capitalist elite in Russia will negotiate more concessions, Assad will get his arse handed to him. In a year or so, the Arabs will be more integrated in the global capitalist system and crap from China will get cheaper.

You and your kind will increasingly become even more despondent when you realise that capitalism is only getting more deeper as it takes over all aspects of our lives and the way we consume.
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What sort of concession did you have in mind that would yield the Russian Navy's retreat from the Mediterranean, the loss of $20B USD in infrastructure investment, $4B USD in annual weapons purchases, immensely valuable gas exploration and pipeline contracts, etc, etc, etc....not to mention the national embarrassment that would no doubt make their #1 foreign policy objective (rebuilding the former soviet states] impossible.

I do get what you're saying, but force is a major component of capitalism.
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In return for their role in this game, the Russians will receive guaranteed energy contracts (at inflated rates) for western Europe. Additionally, they will continue to be given free reign throughout the former U.S.S.R.

The Russians have been historically responsible for wiping out the Muslim issue but due to their poor performance have been supplanted by the United States in the south. Russia is still fully responsible for cleansing the northern states. China is still responsible for cleansing the frontier.

For the time being, the Americans are to pacify and cleanse the unruly Arab states until China becomes powerful enough to permanently finish this job.

All of this being stated, a global-thermonuclear war is still possible if the military of the United States and Russia can be compromised to a greater extent. The United States, in particular, has proven to be difficult. Regardless, if fortune shines on this operation, a cleansing war will take place to usher in the new and ordered world. It will be glorious.
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Estimates as to the size of the Israeli nuclear arsenal vary between 75 and 400 nuclear warheads, with most estimates at less than 200 warheads. It is estimated that the Israel nuclear deterrent force has the ability to deliver them by intermediate-range ballistic missile, intercontinental ballistic missile, aircraft, and submarine-launched cruise missile
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The Israel deterrent is less for the Arabs who are largely led by arses with zilch knowledge of geo-politics and more for the consumption of European (mostly German) nationalism which covets Jewish vested interests in global usury, the heart of international capitalism.
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I've already addressed such an eventuality at:

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Michael and Elizabeth, as Prophesied in Chapter 12, verses 1 & 13 of the Book of Daniel
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Putin and Russia will not back down...they simply can't after the humiliation after the libyan "NATO" invasion. Medvedev was mad a fool of....Putin will not suffer the same fate. Russian has an experienced, albeit probably corrupt, leader in Putin. The US has no allies in this and has no real leadership. Just slogans and platitudes. Neither of these being a match for the likes of the ex KGB Putin and his regime. BO's ego won't let him see how badly he is losing and what an idiot he is.
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Breaking news verified by Russian press!

US transfers nuclear warheads to East Coast, allegedly prepares for World War 3 Watch the video!


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Putin and Russia will not back down...they simply can't after the humiliation after the libyan "NATO" invasion. Medvedev was mad a fool of....Putin will not suffer the same fate. Russian has an experienced, albeit probably corrupt, leader in Putin. The US has no allies in this and has no real leadership. Just slogans and platitudes. Neither of these being a match for the likes of the ex KGB Putin and his regime. BO's ego won't let him see how badly he is losing and what an idiot he is.
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Well, you are wrong. Remember my words when Assad is rendered history and Russia does nothing.

Also personalising this as an Obama issue is stupid. The global elite appoint managers and that is all that Obama is, his blackness notwithstanding.
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Wont happen. The capitalist elite in Russia will negotiate more concessions, Assad will get his arse handed to him.
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Russia has no say in how this war plays out. If Kerry is a pathetic liar, Putin is a pathetic truth-teller. In the end, they're both pathetic and neither of them decides anything.

This war will be decided between Syria, Israel and Iran. All the rest of them pathetic dumb fucks, U.S. Russians, Saudis, Qataris and their ilk, will get pulled into whatever happens between those three states.

Israelis are looking out for any excuse to nuke Iran (a nuclear precedent that will create a rule and make an example at the same time), but they need Syrians to lob a few chemical warheads over Israeli border first. In the absence of the same, poisoning a few thousand of their own citizens will still provide the so much needed excuse.

Iran is definitely going up in nuclear flames, and after seeing how easily Russians sold out one of their allies, Syria, Iran has literally nothing to lose in a war against Israel. Neither has Syria, for that matter. One way or another, Syria is finished, as both a country and the people, in the short run just as much as everyone else is finished in the long run.

When no one has anything left to lose anymore, everyone will use everything they have on others before those others use the same on them. Any moron with half a brain can see how this is going to play out.

The straw that broke the camel's back always comes from Israel.
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somebody please embed
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The Russian elite of course would like to be higher up and get their cocks massaged as well but in reality contribute very little unlike the Chinese. All they have left is their old cold war weapons which they use from time to time. But at the end of the day, they always give in.




You do understand that the Russian Navy just fielded the world's most advanced (and most expensive) Nuclear Fast Attack Submarine this summer? Or the Borei-class Ballistic Missile Submarine considered by western naval analysts to also be most advanced of its type at half the cost of a comparable US Ohio-class BMS. They've invested in a Navy with one purpose - to defeat the US.
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If you people think politicians care about nuclear war... think again. They will be in their massive bunkers while you and your family are cooking from the inside out.
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Russians have been stating there position very clearly.
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Really?

[link to www.theguardian.com]
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They are very subtle for what Westerners are used to. Read between the lines a little, and don't always take the first meaning.
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If you people think politicians care about nuclear war... think again. They will be in their massive bunkers while you and your family are cooking from the inside out.
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I hope I go quickly. :<
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In the real world not the kooky conspiracy world Russia is barely a super power and they would not stand a chance against the worlds only hyper power America.
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Wont happen. The capitalist elite in Russia will negotiate more concessions, Assad will get his arse handed to him.
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Russia has no say in how this war plays out. If Kerry is a pathetic liar, Putin is a pathetic truth-teller. In the end, they're both pathetic and neither of them decides anything.

This war will be decided between Syria, Israel and Iran. All the rest of them pathetic dumb fucks, U.S. Russians, Saudis, Qataris and their ilk, will get pulled into whatever happens between those three states.

Israelis are looking out for any excuse to nuke Iran (a nuclear precedent that will create a rule and make an example at the same time), but they need Syrians to lob a few chemical warheads over Israeli border first. In the absence of the same, poisoning a few thousand of their own citizens will still provide the so much needed excuse.

Iran is definitely going up in nuclear flames, and after seeing how easily Russians sold out one of their allies, Syria, Iran has literally nothing to lose in a war against Israel. Neither has Syria, for that matter. One way or another, Syria is finished, as both a country and the people, in the short run just as much as everyone else is finished in the long run.

When no one has anything left to lose anymore, everyone will use everything they have on others before those others use the same on them. Any moron with half a brain can see how this is going to play out.

The straw that broke the camel's back always comes from Israel.
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Wrong. Global capitalists would rather the Arab Empire (Islam) was led by the compliant and stupid Saudis rather than the marginally less compliant and stupid Iranians. When Assad is dealt with, Iran is next.The Israelis are a force in global capitalism as thet have historically been the source of credit going back to the pre-Reformation days..but thats all.
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The destruction of the United States/Babylon

How the oppressor has ceased,
The golden[a] city ceased!
5 The Lord has broken the staff of the wicked,
The scepter of the rulers;
6 He who struck the people in wrath with a continual stroke,
He who ruled the nations in anger,
Is persecuted and no one hinders.
7 The whole earth is at rest and quiet;
They break forth into singing.
8 Indeed the cypress trees rejoice over you,
And the cedars of Lebanon,
Saying, ‘Since you were cut down,
No woodsman has come up against us.’
9 “Hell from beneath is excited about you,
To meet you at your coming;
It stirs up the dead for you,
All the chief ones of the earth;
It has raised up from their thrones
All the kings of the nations.
10 They all shall speak and say to you:
‘Have you also become as weak as we?
Have you become like us?
11 Your pomp is brought down to Sheol,
And the sound of your stringed instruments;
The maggot is spread under you,
And worms cover you.’
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Wont happen. The capitalist elite in Russia will negotiate more concessions, Assad will get his arse handed to him. In a year or so, the Arabs will be more integrated in the global capitalist system and crap from China will get cheaper.

You and your kind will increasingly become even more despondent when you realise that capitalism is only getting more deeper as it takes over all aspects of our lives and the way we consume.
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I think, maybe they want to make Assad away, and then it will stop.
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If you want to survive get out of the USA...

come out of her my people that you not partake of her sins.
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Putin and Russia will not back down...they simply can't after the humiliation after the libyan "NATO" invasion. Medvedev was mad a fool of....Putin will not suffer the same fate. Russian has an experienced, albeit probably corrupt, leader in Putin. The US has no allies in this and has no real leadership. Just slogans and platitudes. Neither of these being a match for the likes of the ex KGB Putin and his regime. BO's ego won't let him see how badly he is losing and what an idiot he is.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3034706


Well, you are wrong. Remember my words when Assad is rendered history and Russia does nothing.

Also personalising this as an Obama issue is stupid. The global elite appoint managers and that is all that Obama is, his blackness notwithstanding.
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I do not think so.
Everybody has to loose everything, when they start a war. That would be stupid. And nothing about economics. Nothing about politics. So, maybe they want to get some good advise from G-d. They should activate their religious brain center, before they loose their lifes, because without life, there is no cleverness!
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The Russian elite of course would like to be higher up and get their cocks massaged as well but in reality contribute very little unlike the Chinese. All they have left is their old cold war weapons which they use from time to time. But at the end of the day, they always give in.




You do understand that the Russian Navy just fielded the world's most advanced (and most expensive) Nuclear Fast Attack Submarine this summer? Or the Borei-class Ballistic Missile Submarine considered by western naval analysts to also be most advanced of its type at half the cost of a comparable US Ohio-class BMS. They've invested in a Navy with one purpose - to defeat the US.


The arms industry is a massive generator of surplus value so it isn't going to disappear tomorrow. There are residual echoes of the old regional capitalism still lingering but the reality is that with each war by the leaders in capitalism, the Anglo-Sacons, the rest of the world acquiesces despite all the hand wringing. These elites know which side their bread is buttered on. Assad and a few of the old school nationalists are being systematically removed. However, when the USSR collapsed, the elite that took the reins were in essence groomed by the West to reform the country. Putin is one of them. Don't be fooled. The West did not spend trillions to win the Cold War only to let some primitive muslim fox them.





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