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THIS is why people get turned off God and christians. How they are sickened by religion.

 
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Don't believe everything you hear.

If you can't form your own opinion about something, then you're doomed anyhow.
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Thats the thing.

I DONT beleive everything I hear anymore.

If I did I would still think God is a torturing petty minded worship obsessed loveless angry sadist.

Glad im free now and KNOW that he really IS love.
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The problem with christians as I see it is they believe they have the one and only 'truth' and feel it is their job to push it on everyone else. You push your moral code on everyone as if it's magically the right way.


Christianity has a very simple dualistic model in which it operates and in a dynamic system where not everything is black and white this way of thinking is nothing less than a cognitive disorder.

You are angry at people reacting to having this religion shoved in their face 24/7 and only wonder why they won't 'see the light'.

Christianity is very clever though because if anything comes along to challenge it or even totally disprove an aspect of it or the bible with empirical evidence it can easily be ignored as a test of your faith, For example: Dinosaur bones are well over 5000 years old. Response: They were put there by god as a test or evil atheist scientists are interpreting the data in line with their master, Satan.

Unfortunately this is impossible to explain to someone who is inflicted with this cognitive disorder because well, you have a cognitive disorder.

As a non-christian it is interesting to note that Christians and insane people will elicit the same response from me should I accidentally be drawn into a conversation with one. That is at some point during the mad ramblings of either I find myself slowly backing away going "ok, I've got to go".


Another point to mention is Christians often wear the dislike people have for their nosy insidious ways as a badge of honour because now you are being crucified for your beliefs just like jesus was. Did it ever occur to you that people don't need your mentally ill interpretation of the world because it is a flawed model?

A cartoon I saw recently comes to mind that had the caption: "Claiming that someone else's marriage is against your religion is like being angry at someone for eating a donut because you're on a diet." That really sums it up quite nicely really. Whatever your beliefs are they are YOUR beliefs, they may be true for you but they are NOT universally true, the dualistic mindset cannot comprehend this which in a way makes everything I say moot.

You are 100% right people are reactionary to delusions that keep people locked in ignorance and so they should be.
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So you are here casting stones, condemning others, yet you ignore the log in your own eyes?
Who gave you the delusion that you are under to equate donuts/dieting to sodomites/marriage? That is a belief from the minds of wicked men who hold nothing sacred and holy and who do not know the body is the temple, and you therefore reason based upon their false words. Their words are your gospel. This world is fighting because they know not the gospel of peace. This world is fighting because they are carnal minds filled with the words of men and They can only reason from those words. Minds filled with garbage, lies and falsehoods can never come to the truth unless the light shines on that darkness. So what happens? They come along like all of these posts, including the OP's and yours, blanket condemning everyone else as wrong and themselves as right.

There is only one truth. There is only one righteousness and that is the righteousness of Almighty God. But in a world gone mad of billions insisting and acting as if each of us is that Almighty God, then we stay divided. You have done no differently than the self righteous Pharisees hauling the woman caught in adultery before Jesus. And the OP has done the very same thing. Accuse accuse accuse. Condemn condemn condemn. In it you miss the point that he is making - those who accuse and condemn have no right to do so if they themselves are hypocrites and sinners. It makes them unrighteous judges. They condemn on appearances without the hidden things in darkness being exposed by the light. It is only His light which can reveal those hidden things. They were condemning unrighteously.

You have already condemned The Most High God as a liar by preferring to believe what man has told you. You believe them and by doing so, you convict Almighty God as the liar.

Jesus WEPT over Jerusalem. He WEPT. In this alone He demonstrates that there is no fairy tale ending which man wants to believe in. He knew the outcome for Jerusalem, and by extrapolation, the world. Look around you as He too witnesses judgement upon the Earth. Man knows that he will stand before Him in judgement, yet continues to pursue his iniquity and evil ways as if there is no judgement. But yet Jesus, the Truth, WEPT over their future. I would rather believe Him than any man and his words that insists on logic that is circular. He already forgave our sins taking them in his body upon the cross. That shed blood and the grace of God - saves me. People looking to some future forgiveness are banking on His graces which exist TODAY. But they do not want it TODAY because they love the darkness and want to stay in it. What gives any person the right therefore to conclude that it is available after one's physical life is done here? Eternal life is a GIFT OF GOD. A gift is not obligatory.

The OP is too busy mocking, accusing and condemning. The OP has no interest in the truth nor teaching. Someone in Christ EDIFIES the body of Christ. This post isn't edification - its mockery and accusations. The OP full well knows that the tares are mature, yet funny enough, never mentions them. The OP has no interest in edifying the body of Christ because the OP is busy preaching the words that non-Christians WANT TO HEAR.

Are there Christians who preach endless torture? Sure, but I can honestly say that I have never experienced it. The only time that I do see it is on glp from posters who I can discern that are not in Christ - and the non-Christians lap the indoctrination up. Why? Because they use it for what it's designed to do - as just another reason to keep you from seeking the Truth. They have no understanding that the enemies of Christ sit right in the churches and pose as Christians to do one thing only - to influence their minds. You equate donuts with homosexuals as if their is no difference. Who gave you that belief? Who put that in your mind? The very same enemies of Christ who tell people that they'll be "endlessly tortured". How else do so many come to teach their own children that a deathstyle of disease, 500+ sexual partners, suicide, depression, and degradation is "normal" yet refuse to teach their children that a Saviour was born? Mass media portrays one as a helpless victim and the other as a tyrant. Yet, these same people are never taught that all the Ceasars were rapid homosexuals who willingly tied Christians to posts and lit them on fire or threw them alive to lions - women AND CHILDREN. How is it today that so many have the exact opposite image than reality? God is no tyrant - men are. And yet you sit here under mass media falsehoods comparing sodomites with donuts? They only exist to blind you to the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ. They only exist to keep you tied to this world so that you won't realise that Christ is not of this world. They only exist to separate you from your Creator. And yet, you believe them and their words whilst tossing away the very book containing the gospel of salvation.

They exist to "turn people off". A drunkard caught up in his lifestyle wants to only hear that drinking isn't bad. They do not want to hear the opposite. a sexual addict caught up in his sexual desires does not want to hear anything regarding how it hurts him and others. In the same way, those who do not WANT to acknowledge their Creator will latch on to any excuse and reason to not seek that Creator - EVEN IF THAT EXCUSE IS A LOAD OF LIES. You choosing to believe those words in some cartoon is you simply calling the Creator a liar. You probably dismiss scripture as written by mere men and use that as an excuse to not believe the words. But hypocritically, you conclude that the cartoon's words, written by men, are truth and therefore you believe them. Who taught you to overlook such glaring hypocrisy? I'll tell you now - the enemies of Christ. They do no differently than in Judea 2,000 years ago - fill your mind with such lies, falsehoods and garbage that you cannot reach any other conclusion than what they designated for you to reach. They choose your decisions and they make your decisions for you by simply filling your mind with their words. You are Satan for the very same reason that Jesus called Peter 'Satan' - your mind is on the things of men and not the things of the Father. By believing men, you deem your Creator a liar. Thus, you reason falsely and conclude falsely. The whole world is doing the same as they race headlong into the lake.
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Like I said, you won't understand because you have a cognitive disorder.
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People don't have a hard time believing in God, of the 7 billion people on the planet, about 5 billion believe in the God of Abraham...

False premise
 Quoting: *Evan


Answer the question.

Will God burn me alive in screaming agony forever for not beleiving he will burn me alive in screaming agony forever?

Has beleif in hell become a "Salvation" issue?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46344121



This is what will be going on in the millennium my friend.


Ezekiel 44

23 And they shall teach my people the difference between the holy and profane, and cause them to discern between the unclean and the clean.


God will not blot out his children that finally choose to love Him and each other. The evil rudiments of this earth must be locked away before many can learn and make a righteous and fair choice.

In the interim many learn what it means to be separate from Him in a world widely influenced by darkness, the son of perdition.

In Christ.
 Quoting: Brogan


Exactly.

Christians twist scripture or ignore them to create the eternal torture theme...as that is the AGENDA...to further a LIE!

Like this..

What the word actually SAYS

Isaiah 52:10 The LORD hath made bare his holy arm in the eyes of all the nations; and all the ends of the earth shall see the salvation of our God.

And what they actually TEACH..

Isaiah 52:10 The LORD hath made bare his holy arm in the eyes of a small fraction of the nations; and some of the ends of the earth shall see the salvation of our God.


And What the word actually SAYS

1 Corinthians 15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

And what they actually TEACH..

1 Corinthians 15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall about 10% of mankind be made alive.

And What the word actually SAYS

1 Timothy 4:10 For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.

And what they actually TEACH..

1 Timothy 4:10 For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of just a few men, and only of those that believe.

And What the word actually SAYS

Revelation 21:4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.

And what they actually TEACH..

Revelation 21:4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away...except in hell where screaming and pain and tears and death will continue quite happily for eternity.

And What the word actually SAYS

Isaiah 25:7 And he will destroy in this mountain the face of the covering cast over all people, and the vail that is spread over all nations. (8) He will swallow up death in victory; and the Lord GOD will wipe away tears from off all faces; and the rebuke of his people shall he take away from off all the earth: for the LORD hath spoken it.

And what they actually TEACH..

Isaiah 25:7 And he will destroy in this mountain the face of the covering cast over all people, and the vail that is spread over all nations. (8) He will swallow up 10% of death in victory; and the Lord GOD will wipe away tears from off about 10% of faces; and the rebuke of his people shall he take away from off a bit of the earth: for the LORD hath spoken it.

And What the word actually SAYS

John 12:32 And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.

And what they actually TEACH..

John 12:32 And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw about 10% of men unto me.

And What the word actually SAYS

1 John 2:2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for our's only, but also for the sins of the whole world.

And what they actually TEACH..

1 John 2:2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and for our's only, but not for the sins of the whole world.


And What the word actually SAYS


John 4:42 And said unto the woman, Now we believe, not because of thy saying: for we have heard him ourselves, and know that this is indeed the Christ, the Saviour of the world.

And what they actually TEACH..

John 4:42 And said unto the woman, Now we believe, not because of thy saying: for we have heard him ourselves, and know that this is indeed the Christ, the Saviour of part of the world.
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Took a fair bit of twisting of scripture to make them say the OPPOSITE of whats there...but most christians should not have a problem with it because its what they EXACTLY teach..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46344121


OP, true Christians do not "twist" scripture.

You are a Christian because you are saying that you believe the above bolded quotes which state, a belief that Jesus Christ is the son of God who came to save the world from sin so that man can live forever. It is that simple. A BELIEF that Jesus is the son of God who died for your sins so that you can live. Simple.

If one doesn't believe this, then their fate is cast. They are chosing something else. Plain and simple. They are chosing a life without God. Simple. No problem... They will not see any of this without a belief in God.

Read the parts about those whose hearts are hardened and how difficult it is for people to believe in a loving God.

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Answer the question.

Will God burn me alive in screaming agony forever for not beleiving he will burn me alive in screaming agony forever?

Has beleif in hell become a "Salvation" issue?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46344121



This is what will be going on in the millennium my friend.


Ezekiel 44

23 And they shall teach my people the difference between the holy and profane, and cause them to discern between the unclean and the clean.


God will not blot out his children that finally choose to love Him and each other. The evil rudiments of this earth must be locked away before many can learn and make a righteous and fair choice.

In the interim many learn what it means to be separate from Him in a world widely influenced by darkness, the son of perdition.

In Christ.
 Quoting: Brogan


Exactly.

Christians twist scripture or ignore them to create the eternal torture theme...as that is the AGENDA...to further a LIE!

Like this..

What the word actually SAYS

Isaiah 52:10 The LORD hath made bare his holy arm in the eyes of all the nations; and all the ends of the earth shall see the salvation of our God.

And what they actually TEACH..

Isaiah 52:10 The LORD hath made bare his holy arm in the eyes of a small fraction of the nations; and some of the ends of the earth shall see the salvation of our God.


And What the word actually SAYS

1 Corinthians 15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

And what they actually TEACH..

1 Corinthians 15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall about 10% of mankind be made alive.

And What the word actually SAYS

1 Timothy 4:10 For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.

And what they actually TEACH..

1 Timothy 4:10 For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of just a few men, and only of those that believe.

And What the word actually SAYS

Revelation 21:4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.

And what they actually TEACH..

Revelation 21:4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away...except in hell where screaming and pain and tears and death will continue quite happily for eternity.

And What the word actually SAYS

Isaiah 25:7 And he will destroy in this mountain the face of the covering cast over all people, and the vail that is spread over all nations. (8) He will swallow up death in victory; and the Lord GOD will wipe away tears from off all faces; and the rebuke of his people shall he take away from off all the earth: for the LORD hath spoken it.

And what they actually TEACH..

Isaiah 25:7 And he will destroy in this mountain the face of the covering cast over all people, and the vail that is spread over all nations. (8) He will swallow up 10% of death in victory; and the Lord GOD will wipe away tears from off about 10% of faces; and the rebuke of his people shall he take away from off a bit of the earth: for the LORD hath spoken it.

And What the word actually SAYS

John 12:32 And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.

And what they actually TEACH..

John 12:32 And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw about 10% of men unto me.

And What the word actually SAYS

1 John 2:2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for our's only, but also for the sins of the whole world.

And what they actually TEACH..

1 John 2:2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and for our's only, but not for the sins of the whole world.


And What the word actually SAYS


John 4:42 And said unto the woman, Now we believe, not because of thy saying: for we have heard him ourselves, and know that this is indeed the Christ, the Saviour of the world.

And what they actually TEACH..

John 4:42 And said unto the woman, Now we believe, not because of thy saying: for we have heard him ourselves, and know that this is indeed the Christ, the Saviour of part of the world.
.

Took a fair bit of twisting of scripture to make them say the OPPOSITE of whats there...but most christians should not have a problem with it because its what they EXACTLY teach..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46344121


OP, true Christians do not "twist" scripture.

You are a Christian because you are saying that you believe the above bolded quotes which state, a belief that Jesus Christ is the son of God who came to save the world from sin so that man can live forever. It is that simple. A BELIEF that Jesus is the son of God who died for your sins so that you can live. Simple.

If one doesn't believe this, then their fate is cast. They are chosing something else. Plain and simple. They are chosing a life without God. Simple. No problem... They will not see any of this without a belief in God.

Read the parts about those whose hearts are hardened and how difficult it is for people to believe in a loving God.
 Quoting: abeliever


And those whos hearts were hardened were hardened for a reason.

Like so..

Thread: "FREE will" is a MYTH and always has been. But it sells books. Hell is big business.

And I am sure the Lord loves them just as much because in the end they are serving a purpose as that thread clearlt states.

In the end ALL will confess Him AS LORD.

Something that is impossible to do unless one has repented because repentance is the only way to have the Holy Spirit and according to scripture itself no one can confess Jesus AS Lord uNLESS they have the Holy Spirit.

So everything that happens is all part of the grand plan.

Nothing happens for nothing.

Alpha and omega.

He's at the end already and loses NO one.

because every single one of them confess him as LORD.

And according to scripture confessing jesus AS LORD is what is required to redeem one.

He died for the sins of the ENTIRE WORLD..not just a part of the world.

Thats why in the end everyone confesses to thruth..the Father WINS..evil FAILS..and its ALL to the Fathers Glory.

Would not be much of a confession to his GLORY if he is burning 90% of the humnas he died to save alive.

Thats a God that failed and a God that lied in that case.

Because he said "LOVE NEVER FAILS"

And HE IS LOVE.
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The problem with christians as I see it is they believe they have the one and only 'truth' and feel it is their job to push it on everyone else. You push your moral code on everyone as if it's magically the right way.


Christianity has a very simple dualistic model in which it operates and in a dynamic system where not everything is black and white this way of thinking is nothing less than a cognitive disorder.

You are angry at people reacting to having this religion shoved in their face 24/7 and only wonder why they won't 'see the light'.

Christianity is very clever though because if anything comes along to challenge it or even totally disprove an aspect of it or the bible with empirical evidence it can easily be ignored as a test of your faith, For example: Dinosaur bones are well over 5000 years old. Response: They were put there by god as a test or evil atheist scientists are interpreting the data in line with their master, Satan.

Unfortunately this is impossible to explain to someone who is inflicted with this cognitive disorder because well, you have a cognitive disorder.

As a non-christian it is interesting to note that Christians and insane people will elicit the same response from me should I accidentally be drawn into a conversation with one. That is at some point during the mad ramblings of either I find myself slowly backing away going "ok, I've got to go".


Another point to mention is Christians often wear the dislike people have for their nosy insidious ways as a badge of honour because now you are being crucified for your beliefs just like jesus was. Did it ever occur to you that people don't need your mentally ill interpretation of the world because it is a flawed model?

A cartoon I saw recently comes to mind that had the caption: "Claiming that someone else's marriage is against your religion is like being angry at someone for eating a donut because you're on a diet." That really sums it up quite nicely really. Whatever your beliefs are they are YOUR beliefs, they may be true for you but they are NOT universally true, the dualistic mindset cannot comprehend this which in a way makes everything I say moot.

You are 100% right people are reactionary to delusions that keep people locked in ignorance and so they should be.
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So you are here casting stones, condemning others, yet you ignore the log in your own eyes?
Who gave you the delusion that you are under to equate donuts/dieting to sodomites/marriage? That is a belief from the minds of wicked men who hold nothing sacred and holy and who do not know the body is the temple, and you therefore reason based upon their false words. Their words are your gospel. This world is fighting because they know not the gospel of peace. This world is fighting because they are carnal minds filled with the words of men and They can only reason from those words. Minds filled with garbage, lies and falsehoods can never come to the truth unless the light shines on that darkness. So what happens? They come along like all of these posts, including the OP's and yours, blanket condemning everyone else as wrong and themselves as right.

There is only one truth. There is only one righteousness and that is the righteousness of Almighty God. But in a world gone mad of billions insisting and acting as if each of us is that Almighty God, then we stay divided. You have done no differently than the self righteous Pharisees hauling the woman caught in adultery before Jesus. And the OP has done the very same thing. Accuse accuse accuse. Condemn condemn condemn. In it you miss the point that he is making - those who accuse and condemn have no right to do so if they themselves are hypocrites and sinners. It makes them unrighteous judges. They condemn on appearances without the hidden things in darkness being exposed by the light. It is only His light which can reveal those hidden things. They were condemning unrighteously.

You have already condemned The Most High God as a liar by preferring to believe what man has told you. You believe them and by doing so, you convict Almighty God as the liar.

Jesus WEPT over Jerusalem. He WEPT. In this alone He demonstrates that there is no fairy tale ending which man wants to believe in. He knew the outcome for Jerusalem, and by extrapolation, the world. Look around you as He too witnesses judgement upon the Earth. Man knows that he will stand before Him in judgement, yet continues to pursue his iniquity and evil ways as if there is no judgement. But yet Jesus, the Truth, WEPT over their future. I would rather believe Him than any man and his words that insists on logic that is circular. He already forgave our sins taking them in his body upon the cross. That shed blood and the grace of God - saves me. People looking to some future forgiveness are banking on His graces which exist TODAY. But they do not want it TODAY because they love the darkness and want to stay in it. What gives any person the right therefore to conclude that it is available after one's physical life is done here? Eternal life is a GIFT OF GOD. A gift is not obligatory.

The OP is too busy mocking, accusing and condemning. The OP has no interest in the truth nor teaching. Someone in Christ EDIFIES the body of Christ. This post isn't edification - its mockery and accusations. The OP full well knows that the tares are mature, yet funny enough, never mentions them. The OP has no interest in edifying the body of Christ because the OP is busy preaching the words that non-Christians WANT TO HEAR.

Are there Christians who preach endless torture? Sure, but I can honestly say that I have never experienced it. The only time that I do see it is on glp from posters who I can discern that are not in Christ - and the non-Christians lap the indoctrination up. Why? Because they use it for what it's designed to do - as just another reason to keep you from seeking the Truth. They have no understanding that the enemies of Christ sit right in the churches and pose as Christians to do one thing only - to influence their minds. You equate donuts with homosexuals as if their is no difference. Who gave you that belief? Who put that in your mind? The very same enemies of Christ who tell people that they'll be "endlessly tortured". How else do so many come to teach their own children that a deathstyle of disease, 500+ sexual partners, suicide, depression, and degradation is "normal" yet refuse to teach their children that a Saviour was born? Mass media portrays one as a helpless victim and the other as a tyrant. Yet, these same people are never taught that all the Ceasars were rapid homosexuals who willingly tied Christians to posts and lit them on fire or threw them alive to lions - women AND CHILDREN. How is it today that so many have the exact opposite image than reality? God is no tyrant - men are. And yet you sit here under mass media falsehoods comparing sodomites with donuts? They only exist to blind you to the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ. They only exist to keep you tied to this world so that you won't realise that Christ is not of this world. They only exist to separate you from your Creator. And yet, you believe them and their words whilst tossing away the very book containing the gospel of salvation.

They exist to "turn people off". A drunkard caught up in his lifestyle wants to only hear that drinking isn't bad. They do not want to hear the opposite. a sexual addict caught up in his sexual desires does not want to hear anything regarding how it hurts him and others. In the same way, those who do not WANT to acknowledge their Creator will latch on to any excuse and reason to not seek that Creator - EVEN IF THAT EXCUSE IS A LOAD OF LIES. You choosing to believe those words in some cartoon is you simply calling the Creator a liar. You probably dismiss scripture as written by mere men and use that as an excuse to not believe the words. But hypocritically, you conclude that the cartoon's words, written by men, are truth and therefore you believe them. Who taught you to overlook such glaring hypocrisy? I'll tell you now - the enemies of Christ. They do no differently than in Judea 2,000 years ago - fill your mind with such lies, falsehoods and garbage that you cannot reach any other conclusion than what they designated for you to reach. They choose your decisions and they make your decisions for you by simply filling your mind with their words. You are Satan for the very same reason that Jesus called Peter 'Satan' - your mind is on the things of men and not the things of the Father. By believing men, you deem your Creator a liar. Thus, you reason falsely and conclude falsely. The whole world is doing the same as they race headlong into the lake.
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i dont know you brother, but i love you.

we aint in the lake yet though.

hf
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This is what will be going on in the millennium my friend.


Ezekiel 44

23 And they shall teach my people the difference between the holy and profane, and cause them to discern between the unclean and the clean.


God will not blot out his children that finally choose to love Him and each other. The evil rudiments of this earth must be locked away before many can learn and make a righteous and fair choice.

In the interim many learn what it means to be separate from Him in a world widely influenced by darkness, the son of perdition.

In Christ.
 Quoting: Brogan


Exactly.

Christians twist scripture or ignore them to create the eternal torture theme...as that is the AGENDA...to further a LIE!

Like this..

What the word actually SAYS

Isaiah 52:10 The LORD hath made bare his holy arm in the eyes of all the nations; and all the ends of the earth shall see the salvation of our God.

And what they actually TEACH..

Isaiah 52:10 The LORD hath made bare his holy arm in the eyes of a small fraction of the nations; and some of the ends of the earth shall see the salvation of our God.


And What the word actually SAYS

1 Corinthians 15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

And what they actually TEACH..

1 Corinthians 15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall about 10% of mankind be made alive.

And What the word actually SAYS

1 Timothy 4:10 For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.

And what they actually TEACH..

1 Timothy 4:10 For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of just a few men, and only of those that believe.

And What the word actually SAYS

Revelation 21:4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.

And what they actually TEACH..

Revelation 21:4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away...except in hell where screaming and pain and tears and death will continue quite happily for eternity.

And What the word actually SAYS

Isaiah 25:7 And he will destroy in this mountain the face of the covering cast over all people, and the vail that is spread over all nations. (8) He will swallow up death in victory; and the Lord GOD will wipe away tears from off all faces; and the rebuke of his people shall he take away from off all the earth: for the LORD hath spoken it.

And what they actually TEACH..

Isaiah 25:7 And he will destroy in this mountain the face of the covering cast over all people, and the vail that is spread over all nations. (8) He will swallow up 10% of death in victory; and the Lord GOD will wipe away tears from off about 10% of faces; and the rebuke of his people shall he take away from off a bit of the earth: for the LORD hath spoken it.

And What the word actually SAYS

John 12:32 And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.

And what they actually TEACH..

John 12:32 And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw about 10% of men unto me.

And What the word actually SAYS

1 John 2:2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for our's only, but also for the sins of the whole world.

And what they actually TEACH..

1 John 2:2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and for our's only, but not for the sins of the whole world.


And What the word actually SAYS


John 4:42 And said unto the woman, Now we believe, not because of thy saying: for we have heard him ourselves, and know that this is indeed the Christ, the Saviour of the world.

And what they actually TEACH..

John 4:42 And said unto the woman, Now we believe, not because of thy saying: for we have heard him ourselves, and know that this is indeed the Christ, the Saviour of part of the world.
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Took a fair bit of twisting of scripture to make them say the OPPOSITE of whats there...but most christians should not have a problem with it because its what they EXACTLY teach..
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OP, true Christians do not "twist" scripture.

You are a Christian because you are saying that you believe the above bolded quotes which state, a belief that Jesus Christ is the son of God who came to save the world from sin so that man can live forever. It is that simple. A BELIEF that Jesus is the son of God who died for your sins so that you can live. Simple.

If one doesn't believe this, then their fate is cast. They are chosing something else. Plain and simple. They are chosing a life without God. Simple. No problem... They will not see any of this without a belief in God.

Read the parts about those whose hearts are hardened and how difficult it is for people to believe in a loving God.
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And those whos hearts were hardened were hardened for a reason.

Like so..

Thread: "FREE will" is a MYTH and always has been. But it sells books. Hell is big business.

And I am sure the Lord loves them just as much because in the end they are serving a purpose as that thread clearlt states.

In the end ALL will confess Him AS LORD.

Something that is impossible to do unless one has repented because repentance is the only way to have the Holy Spirit and according to scripture itself no one can confess Jesus AS Lord uNLESS they have the Holy Spirit.

So everything that happens is all part of the grand plan.

Nothing happens for nothing.

Alpha and omega.

He's at the end already and loses NO one.

because every single one of them confess him as LORD.

And according to scripture confessing jesus AS LORD is what is required to redeem one.

He died for the sins of the ENTIRE WORLD..not just a part of the world.

Thats why in the end everyone confesses to thruth..the Father WINS..evil FAILS..and its ALL to the Fathers Glory.

Would not be much of a confession to his GLORY if he is burning 90% of the humnas he died to save alive.

Thats a God that failed and a God that lied in that case.

Because he said "LOVE NEVER FAILS"

And HE IS LOVE.
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god is love.
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god is love.
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god is love.
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none of you burn.
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but you have to find the key yourselves.

hating anything, is locking the door.
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the damnation stops, it was never god.
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stop bullying people, yes you.
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i mean it, and i am asking you to open your heart, and love.
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you need to love yourself first.
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the damnation stops, it was never god.
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Isnt that the whole point of every thread??

Its said that no one can confess Jesus as Lord except by the Holy Spirit and that no one can have the holy spirit unless they have repented.

So when every creaturein heaven and earth are all there in front of the throne confessing Jesus as lord according to scripture it means they MUST have all repented at some point..otherwise they could NOT make that confession.

And more to the point its said they would confess it to the GLORY of God the father.

If its a confessioned wrung out og them by hell torture that does not give the Father much glory now does it?

If that was thecase he is no better than a dictator forcing people to bow on pain of death.

We on earth hate people that do that and call them evil yet christians are convinced that God does the same to billions and is called "Good"?

I dont see their logic.
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the damnation stops, it was never god.
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Isnt that the whole point of every thread??

Its said that no one can confess Jesus as Lord except by the Holy Spirit and that no one can have the holy spirit unless they have repented.

So when every creaturein heaven and earth are all there in front of the throne confessing Jesus as lord according to scripture it means they MUST have all repented at some point..otherwise they could NOT make that confession.

And more to the point its said they would confess it to the GLORY of God the father.

If its a confessioned wrung out og them by hell torture that does not give the Father much glory now does it?

If that was thecase he is no better than a dictator forcing people to bow on pain of death.

We on earth hate people that do that and call them evil yet christians are convinced that God does the same to billions and is called "Good"?

I dont see their logic.

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take a step back.

you are trying to help, but that is like saying that you need to cut off someones legs for heart surgery.

think, feel, love.
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Ever wonder why people have a hard time beleiving in God?

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I have a hard time believing in heterosexual Australians.

I think it's a myth.
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Ever wonder why people have a hard time beleiving in God?

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I have a hard time believing in heterosexual Australians.

I think it's a myth.
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rude.
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here is my advice.

if you want to show someone the way out of hell, dont scream they are in it, be kind enough to pull them out.
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the damnation stops, it was never god.
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Isnt that the whole point of every thread??

Its said that no one can confess Jesus as Lord except by the Holy Spirit and that no one can have the holy spirit unless they have repented.

So when every creaturein heaven and earth are all there in front of the throne confessing Jesus as lord according to scripture it means they MUST have all repented at some point..otherwise they could NOT make that confession.

And more to the point its said they would confess it to the GLORY of God the father.

If its a confessioned wrung out og them by hell torture that does not give the Father much glory now does it?

If that was thecase he is no better than a dictator forcing people to bow on pain of death.

We on earth hate people that do that and call them evil yet christians are convinced that God does the same to billions and is called "Good"?

I dont see their logic.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46381687


take a step back.

you are trying to help, but that is like saying that you need to cut off someones legs for heart surgery.

think, feel, love.
 Quoting: orpheuskingstone


Like this?



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Which bears the fruit like this..

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When the truth is the very opposite

Like this..

Thread: Why didnt Jesus condemn or doom the sinners and spell casters of his day but instead went after the pharisees religious ones??
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The problem with christians as I see it is they believe they have the one and only 'truth' and feel it is their job to push it on everyone else. You push your moral code on everyone as if it's magically the right way.


Christianity has a very simple dualistic model in which it operates and in a dynamic system where not everything is black and white this way of thinking is nothing less than a cognitive disorder.

You are angry at people reacting to having this religion shoved in their face 24/7 and only wonder why they won't 'see the light'.

Christianity is very clever though because if anything comes along to challenge it or even totally disprove an aspect of it or the bible with empirical evidence it can easily be ignored as a test of your faith, For example: Dinosaur bones are well over 5000 years old. Response: They were put there by god as a test or evil atheist scientists are interpreting the data in line with their master, Satan.

Unfortunately this is impossible to explain to someone who is inflicted with this cognitive disorder because well, you have a cognitive disorder.

As a non-christian it is interesting to note that Christians and insane people will elicit the same response from me should I accidentally be drawn into a conversation with one. That is at some point during the mad ramblings of either I find myself slowly backing away going "ok, I've got to go".


Another point to mention is Christians often wear the dislike people have for their nosy insidious ways as a badge of honour because now you are being crucified for your beliefs just like jesus was. Did it ever occur to you that people don't need your mentally ill interpretation of the world because it is a flawed model?

A cartoon I saw recently comes to mind that had the caption: "Claiming that someone else's marriage is against your religion is like being angry at someone for eating a donut because you're on a diet." That really sums it up quite nicely really. Whatever your beliefs are they are YOUR beliefs, they may be true for you but they are NOT universally true, the dualistic mindset cannot comprehend this which in a way makes everything I say moot.

You are 100% right people are reactionary to delusions that keep people locked in ignorance and so they should be.
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So you are here casting stones, condemning others, yet you ignore the log in your own eyes?
Who gave you the delusion that you are under to equate donuts/dieting to sodomites/marriage? That is a belief from the minds of wicked men who hold nothing sacred and holy and who do not know the body is the temple, and you therefore reason based upon their false words. Their words are your gospel. This world is fighting because they know not the gospel of peace. This world is fighting because they are carnal minds filled with the words of men and They can only reason from those words. Minds filled with garbage, lies and falsehoods can never come to the truth unless the light shines on that darkness. So what happens? They come along like all of these posts, including the OP's and yours, blanket condemning everyone else as wrong and themselves as right.

There is only one truth. There is only one righteousness and that is the righteousness of Almighty God. But in a world gone mad of billions insisting and acting as if each of us is that Almighty God, then we stay divided. You have done no differently than the self righteous Pharisees hauling the woman caught in adultery before Jesus. And the OP has done the very same thing. Accuse accuse accuse. Condemn condemn condemn. In it you miss the point that he is making - those who accuse and condemn have no right to do so if they themselves are hypocrites and sinners. It makes them unrighteous judges. They condemn on appearances without the hidden things in darkness being exposed by the light. It is only His light which can reveal those hidden things. They were condemning unrighteously.

You have already condemned The Most High God as a liar by preferring to believe what man has told you. You believe them and by doing so, you convict Almighty God as the liar.

Jesus WEPT over Jerusalem. He WEPT. In this alone He demonstrates that there is no fairy tale ending which man wants to believe in. He knew the outcome for Jerusalem, and by extrapolation, the world. Look around you as He too witnesses judgement upon the Earth. Man knows that he will stand before Him in judgement, yet continues to pursue his iniquity and evil ways as if there is no judgement. But yet Jesus, the Truth, WEPT over their future. I would rather believe Him than any man and his words that insists on logic that is circular. He already forgave our sins taking them in his body upon the cross. That shed blood and the grace of God - saves me. People looking to some future forgiveness are banking on His graces which exist TODAY. But they do not want it TODAY because they love the darkness and want to stay in it. What gives any person the right therefore to conclude that it is available after one's physical life is done here? Eternal life is a GIFT OF GOD. A gift is not obligatory.

The OP is too busy mocking, accusing and condemning. The OP has no interest in the truth nor teaching. Someone in Christ EDIFIES the body of Christ. This post isn't edification - its mockery and accusations. The OP full well knows that the tares are mature, yet funny enough, never mentions them. The OP has no interest in edifying the body of Christ because the OP is busy preaching the words that non-Christians WANT TO HEAR.

Are there Christians who preach endless torture? Sure, but I can honestly say that I have never experienced it. The only time that I do see it is on glp from posters who I can discern that are not in Christ - and the non-Christians lap the indoctrination up. Why? Because they use it for what it's designed to do - as just another reason to keep you from seeking the Truth. They have no understanding that the enemies of Christ sit right in the churches and pose as Christians to do one thing only - to influence their minds. You equate donuts with homosexuals as if their is no difference. Who gave you that belief? Who put that in your mind? The very same enemies of Christ who tell people that they'll be "endlessly tortured". How else do so many come to teach their own children that a deathstyle of disease, 500+ sexual partners, suicide, depression, and degradation is "normal" yet refuse to teach their children that a Saviour was born? Mass media portrays one as a helpless victim and the other as a tyrant. Yet, these same people are never taught that all the Ceasars were rapid homosexuals who willingly tied Christians to posts and lit them on fire or threw them alive to lions - women AND CHILDREN. How is it today that so many have the exact opposite image than reality? God is no tyrant - men are. And yet you sit here under mass media falsehoods comparing sodomites with donuts? They only exist to blind you to the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ. They only exist to keep you tied to this world so that you won't realise that Christ is not of this world. They only exist to separate you from your Creator. And yet, you believe them and their words whilst tossing away the very book containing the gospel of salvation.

They exist to "turn people off". A drunkard caught up in his lifestyle wants to only hear that drinking isn't bad. They do not want to hear the opposite. a sexual addict caught up in his sexual desires does not want to hear anything regarding how it hurts him and others. In the same way, those who do not WANT to acknowledge their Creator will latch on to any excuse and reason to not seek that Creator - EVEN IF THAT EXCUSE IS A LOAD OF LIES. You choosing to believe those words in some cartoon is you simply calling the Creator a liar. You probably dismiss scripture as written by mere men and use that as an excuse to not believe the words. But hypocritically, you conclude that the cartoon's words, written by men, are truth and therefore you believe them. Who taught you to overlook such glaring hypocrisy? I'll tell you now - the enemies of Christ. They do no differently than in Judea 2,000 years ago - fill your mind with such lies, falsehoods and garbage that you cannot reach any other conclusion than what they designated for you to reach. They choose your decisions and they make your decisions for you by simply filling your mind with their words. You are Satan for the very same reason that Jesus called Peter 'Satan' - your mind is on the things of men and not the things of the Father. By believing men, you deem your Creator a liar. Thus, you reason falsely and conclude falsely. The whole world is doing the same as they race headlong into the lake.
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Like I said, you won't understand because you have a cognitive disorder.
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Seems the same applies to you.
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Obsessed. Consumed. Forever, if you like.
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You want to see obsession?

Check this out.

The christian GOD called HELL.

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Re: THIS is why people get turned off God and christians. How they are sickened by religion.
Since this obviously is your passion, your obsession, your compulsion, your cause, your battle, your war, your very purpose for living every single day, what is your goal? What do you hope to accomplish?
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Since this obviously is your passion, your obsession, your compulsion, your cause, your battle, your war, your very purpose for living every single day, what is your goal? What do you hope to accomplish?
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That some people migh learn what LOVE is.

Thread: Why didnt Jesus condemn or doom the sinners and spell casters of his day but instead went after the pharisees religious ones??

There is no crime in hating evil.
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Since this obviously is your passion, your obsession, your compulsion, your cause, your battle, your war, your very purpose for living every single day, what is your goal? What do you hope to accomplish?
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That some people migh learn what LOVE is.

Thread: Why didnt Jesus condemn or doom the sinners and spell casters of his day but instead went after the pharisees religious ones??

There is no crime in hating evil.
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Then shouldn't you rather point to, highlight, spotlight, emphasize and even preach Love Incarnate in Jesus Christ?

Do you intend to draw others to Christ or rather to draw others away from Christ?
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Since this obviously is your passion, your obsession, your compulsion, your cause, your battle, your war, your very purpose for living every single day, what is your goal? What do you hope to accomplish?
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That some people migh learn what LOVE is.

Thread: Why didnt Jesus condemn or doom the sinners and spell casters of his day but instead went after the pharisees religious ones??

There is no crime in hating evil.
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Then shouldn't you rather point to, highlight, spotlight, emphasize and even preach Love Incarnate in Jesus Christ?

Do you intend to draw others to Christ or rather to draw others away from Christ?
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Thats what the above thread was actually for or didnt you read it?
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Since this obviously is your passion, your obsession, your compulsion, your cause, your battle, your war, your very purpose for living every single day, what is your goal? What do you hope to accomplish?
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That some people migh learn what LOVE is.

Thread: Why didnt Jesus condemn or doom the sinners and spell casters of his day but instead went after the pharisees religious ones??

There is no crime in hating evil.
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Then shouldn't you rather point to, highlight, spotlight, emphasize and even preach Love Incarnate in Jesus Christ?

Do you intend to draw others to Christ or rather to draw others away from Christ?
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Thats what the above thread was actually for or didnt you read it?
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Then shouldn't you rather point to, highlight, spotlight, emphasize and even preach Love Incarnate in Jesus Christ?

Do you intend to draw others to Christ or rather to draw others away from Christ?
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Thats what the above thread was actually for or didnt you read it?
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The contents of that thread.

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There were a lot of pagans and magicians and spell casters in Jesus time.

Lots of drunks and addicts and tax men swindlers. Prostitutes and street workers.

Why didnt Jesus curse them and condemn them?

Why did He hang out with them and eat and drink in their homes and laugh with them?

Why didnt he hang out with the ones who wore the robes and hung out in the temple and knew the scriptures backwards?

Why did he disdain the teachers of the law and the holy oh so learned scribes?

Why did he hang with the ordinary sinner and not the established religion of the day?

Why?

For a start they (The sinners) had true hearts. They were not hypocrites. They didnt go around with two faces on, and they really wanted to do the right thing even though they were being tricked, they were sincere.

His heart was for the "Sinners", not with the scripture quoting holier than thou religious ones, because they (The sinners) were fertile ground and not rocky stony hard ground(The pharisee religious ones).

They were open to the truth. But the pharisees were a closed as clams with a muscle cramp when it came to recieving the good news. They just didnt want to know. They thought they had arrived, and like the pharisees of today that this thread deals, with they cursed and spit at Jesus for exposing their hypocrisy.

It was the religious ones who had him killed. It was always the religious ones who saw all the great things he did, but still said right to his face "You are possessed and have a demon" etc.

They hated Jesus because he took away their power of fear.
He destroyed their yoke of slavery to laws and do's and dont's and replaced it with love and mercy and compassion..the three things dark hearts just cannot abide.

You mention those three things around pharisees of today and they explode..they need their God of death doom and justice and hellfire because it makes them feel superior and justifies their evil treatment and manipulation of the ones they hold in bondage, and makes them a ton of cash as they bilk "Offerings" from the already struggling sheep.

They love control and self righteousness, and fume and hate if its threatened with anything as "Evil" as love compassion or mercy"

The darkness hates the light and will fight against it but it cannot win.

The Good news they have turned into terror and blackmail.

Mercy they have exchanged for harsh judgment and death.

Compassion they have turned into merciless haughty arrogance.

They have taken everything Jesus ever stood for and everything He died to secure for mankind and turned it into a money making power grab and upended all his teachings for what is diametrically opposite to them.

They are of the darkness whole and complete and will stop at nothing until every "Sinner" is screaming in their man invented hell while they sit on a throne somewhere and say with snide haughty hate.."I TOLD you so you vile sinner..GET what you deserve...now BUUUUURN!!

But the truth is the opposite.

God is not on their side.

He despises the modern preachers of today with their sermons of money and hell and works and fear.

He loathes the modern chutches with their never ending "Entertainments" and programs.

He shakes his head sadly at the condition of the sheep.

Bedraggled and sick. Swindled of their will and cash, their minds blsated with fear of hell and doom, never free and always under the yoke of the money changers who set up their tables of dark commerce in the foyer of every church.

The time has come now for the fake church, the pharisee run church to fall, and the sheep to be set free.

The time has come to proclaim the ral "Good" news that you are loved as you are.

He looks down on the athiests and the agnostics and the evolutionists and opens his arms and hearts to you in compassion and love saying "Come unto me and rest for I amd compassionate and merciful"

There is no need to fear the hell and the yoke of the religios hypocrites. They are not of the "Way" and they are for everything I stand against.

Whether you beleive in the Lord or not He beleives in you and will bring you home one way or the other.

He is very capable of mending and moulding a heart. But if its a cold haughty heart that thinks its already whole and spits fear at others there is not much room for Him to work as its hard to get through to people who "hear only what they want to hear and know only what they heard".

Leave the churches now. Leave behind the religios dogma that has kept you bound for centuries. Leave the hate and the fear behind and seek within for there resides the true kingdom. Not in a book or a pastor or a sermon but in your heart. There is where the Lord of the "Good news" will meet you.

When he said "Repent" he was not talking about a "Sinners prayer" or going to church and doing all that stuff.

To repent means simply "To change ones mind and to despise evil and embrace good"

Treat others as you want to be treated. Love others and forgive them. And so He will forgive you.

He is not interested in lables but in hearts.

And THATS the gospel..and not a single copy paste scripture quote required.

AS it should be.

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