THIS is why people get turned off God and christians. How they are sickened by religion.

They have taken LOVE..and turned it into HATE.

ON PURPOSE..because it suits their agenda.

God IS love.

Its NOT an ATTRIBUTE of his..its what HE ACTAULLY IS!!!!!!

1Jn 4:8 He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.

1Jn 4:16 And we have known and believed the love that God hath to us. God is love; and he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God, and God in him.

So WHAT are the TELLING FEATURES of the LOVE that GOD ACTUALLY IS???


1Co 13:4 LOVE suffereth long, and is kind; LOVE envieth not; LOVE vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up,

1Co 13:5 Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil;

1Co 13:6 Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth;

1Co 13:7 Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things.

1Co 13:8 LOVE never faileth:

But to hear most christians preach..they TWIST it to mean...

1Jn 4:8 He that condemeth others not to hell knoweth not God; for God is JUSTICE and REVENGE.

1Jn 4:16 And we have known and believed the JUSTICE and RAGE that God hath to us. God is JUSTICE and ETERNAL RAGE; and he that dwelleth in JUSTICE and etrnal SPITE dwelleth in God, and God in him.

So WHAT are the TELLING FEATURES of the JUSTICE and ETERNAL RAGE that GOD ACTUALLY IS according to how they preach it???


1Co 13:4 JUSTICE and RAGE suffereth NOTHING, and is unkind; JUSTICE and RAGE envieth all things; JUSTICE and RAGE vaunteth itself and DEMANDS worship on pain of ETERNAL TORURE, and is INCREDIBLY puffed up,

1Co 13:5 Doth behave itself unseemly, seeketh always its own, easily provoked, thinketh eternal evil;

1Co 13:6 Rejoiceth in iniquity, but rejoiceth NOT in the truth;

1Co 13:7 Burneth all things, condemneth all things, hopeth all things burn, endureth nothing.

1Co 13:8 And LOVE??? well..it ALWAYS faileth:

I told you like 10 times. lol

Here I will quickly re cap for you.

Your quote

"Ever wonder why people have a hard time beleiving in God?"

It's an undeniable fact that more people in the world believe in God, than don't believe. So your first line of this thread is false. You are incorrect right off the bat here.

54% Believe in the God of Abraham

30% allign with another religion

16% no religion.

There ya go.

Cya tomorrow when you make another b.s thread while under the guise of an Australian AC.

:)

Last Edited by *Evan on 09/05/2013 08:03 PM

You still wont answer my question eh?

I answere yours on the last page but you refuse to address it.

Looks like you dont likewhat you beleive.

Thread: Good news for athiets and agnostics and evolutionists. GOD is a TRUE SCIENTIST. Really.

Something like this isnt it?

Or similar.

I love you for this! I was a former Atheist and sinner myself. I am now very close to Jesus after having a NDE and having him teach me personally. I also do not believe in a Hell. Not in the way the Religions teach it anyway. It is a type of Hell just to have to be exposed to all their brainwashing and false teachings. I know that the religion I was raised in made me suffer severe guilt and self-punishment, that was Hell. It sure would be HELL if all these perverted judgmental religious people were allowed into the "Highest Kingdom". I have been there and everyone loves and adores everyone else. They live in perfect peace and harmony. No one is judgmental. I think these so called "Christians" actually are hoping that some burn in Hell for eternity. A person of love and who is truly of Jesus, is sickened by this thought as we know that we are all truly brothers and sisters.
No- there is nothing wrong for hating blackmail threats and eternal torture and the perverted teachings they spew. There is something wrong with wanting and hoping for "others" to be condemned to this type of torture.

God don't exist but I agree with u OP

And yet God said This:

For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;


Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them. For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things. Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen. For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them. Romans 1

That is what Scripture Says Why They don't want to believe in God. And it is why you don't believe in the True God also. You have a fantasy god of your own mind.

Hell is not a place of eternal torment, you need to quit listening to the people who have twisted the bibles words. The wages of sin are death. Do some serious research.

One trick pony huh?

Your only orignal thought?

Oh pardon me, it's not original.

Goat herders are such FOLLOWERS, aren't they?

:applaud1:

your sadness is spreading, how does that feel?

it is not good, dont fool yourself.

AND THATis exactly what I have been saying all along.

They say I hate christians.

I DONT.

What I hate is the evil they have been tricked with.

because for many years I was one of them as well.

And like them I too wished death and doom on others who dared to say there is no hell.

I too used to call them demons and react the same way they do.

I know the techins well.

One day four years sgo I woke up to what love really was.

I saw the deception behind it..how they had turned the God of mercy compassion and love into a sadistig angry judgmental tyrant.

I was shocked that I had ever thought of the author of love that way.

Then this finally made sense..

God IS love.

Its NOT an ATTRIBUTE of his..its what HE ACTAULLY IS!!!!!!

1Jn 4:8 He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.

1Jn 4:16 And we have known and believed the love that God hath to us. God is love; and he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God, and God in him.

So WHAT are the TELLING FEATURES of the LOVE that GOD ACTUALLY IS???


1Co 13:4 LOVE suffereth long, and is kind; LOVE envieth not; LOVE vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up,

1Co 13:5 Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil;

1Co 13:6 Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth;

1Co 13:7 Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things.

1Co 13:8 LOVE never faileth:

But to hear most christians preach..they TWIST it to mean...

1Jn 4:8 He that condemeth others not to hell knoweth not God; for God is JUSTICE and REVENGE.

1Jn 4:16 And we have known and believed the JUSTICE and RAGE that God hath to us. God is JUSTICE and ETERNAL RAGE; and he that dwelleth in JUSTICE and etrnal SPITE dwelleth in God, and God in him.

So WHAT are the TELLING FEATURES of the JUSTICE and ETERNAL RAGE that GOD ACTUALLY IS according to how they preach it???


1Co 13:4 JUSTICE and RAGE suffereth NOTHING, and is unkind; JUSTICE and RAGE envieth all things; JUSTICE and RAGE vaunteth itself and DEMANDS worship on pain of ETERNAL TORURE, and is INCREDIBLY puffed up,

1Co 13:5 Doth behave itself unseemly, seeketh always its own, easily provoked, thinketh eternal evil;

1Co 13:6 Rejoiceth in iniquity, but rejoiceth NOT in the truth;

1Co 13:7 Burneth all things, condemneth all things, hopeth all things burn, endureth nothing.

1Co 13:8 And LOVE??? well..it ALWAYS faileth:

you hate your fear.

I have a sad and fear filled world??

Really??

MY fear???

yes, i agree with every word of mine that youves posted.

So why do you hang onto this fear?

Cant you love the Lord without thinking he is a monster?

Thats like staying married to an abusive partner because they say "If you ever leave me I will hunt you down and torture you"

When people do that..they are called pshycopaths and mentally deranged.

But when GOD does it..its massive money maker and churches are built in his honour.

See..it does NOT add up.

If His ways are above ours(According to accepted fear doctrine)..perhaps we should lift out game and become pshycotic as well..you know..try and emulate him some more.

Seems we are too kind and judge the pshycopaths who do this on earth too harshly.

would you go into the octagon after eating at mcdonalds?

i respect my god, because if i dont, that means i dont respect myself, i also love my god, because my mother loves me.

i have no fear more than what instinct has granted me.

dont be ruled by your fear, use it as motivation to wrok out.

fast food sucks anyways, makes you constipated.

You serve a god..by your OWN admission...who threatens..no..PROMISES to torture you forever in outer darkness if you dont.

Thats about as motivated by fear as one can get.

my god honors me by allowing me to grow through my own shit.

id rather learn than live without pain and fear brother, why push yours so far away?

And this is exactly how the Mormon's think!

Don't worry, I am not judging you but I know you will judge me, even though we are both sisters and I love you.

Op- Some just do not get it. They are too brainwashed. I had the scales of wrong teachings by religion personally ripped from my eyes by Jesus himself. Standing face to face in his glorious Kingdom. He loves each and everyone of us so much. He is long suffering as he is unwilling to loose ANY! But don't kid yourself that such a loving being who is made of light and is the persona of LOVE would throw any of his children into eternal torture. He won't!

By your own definition, that would be you.

If someone is coming between you an God, they are closer to Him than you are...think about it.

OP is wrong, it's his own God/beliefs, that are leading him to hell. If there is a cliff, and you take no action to avoid it, it's your own damn fault.

did you just call mormons yes-men?

lol, you dont know the danites then.

Dood, I love your posts (for the most part), how are you so red!?!

not every one is as wise as you are.

Organized monotheistic Religion is a government mind control device!

I always was,
And always will be.

I would feel sorry for you brainwashed tards if you weren't so persistent at throwing your retarded book in everyone's face all the time..

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

And thats why christians sneer and condemn and look down on others. Tyring to constantly please this god of death and doom, and cursing anyone who says he is a God of mercy whos love CANNOT fail.

They take the LOVE of God and turn it into blackmail and hate.

They twist the scriptures below to conform to their darkness..

They totally forget that..

God IS love.

Its NOT an ATTRIBUTE of his..its what HE ACTAULLY IS!!!!!!

1Jn 4:8 He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.

1Jn 4:16 And we have known and believed the love that God hath to us. God is love; and he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God, and God in him.

So WHAT are the TELLING FEATURES of the LOVE that GOD ACTUALLY IS???


1Co 13:4 LOVE suffereth long, and is kind; LOVE envieth not; LOVE vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up,

1Co 13:5 Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil;

1Co 13:6 Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth;

1Co 13:7 Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things.

1Co 13:8 LOVE never faileth:

But to hear most christians preach..they TWIST it to mean...

1Jn 4:8 He that condemeth others not to hell knoweth not God; for God is JUSTICE and REVENGE.

1Jn 4:16 And we have known and believed the JUSTICE and RAGE that God hath to us. God is JUSTICE and ETERNAL RAGE; and he that dwelleth in JUSTICE and etrnal SPITE dwelleth in God, and God in him.

So WHAT are the TELLING FEATURES of the JUSTICE and ETERNAL RAGE that GOD ACTUALLY IS according to how they preach it???


1Co 13:4 JUSTICE and RAGE suffereth NOTHING, and is unkind; JUSTICE and RAGE envieth all things; JUSTICE and RAGE vaunteth itself and DEMANDS worship on pain of ETERNAL TORURE, and is INCREDIBLY puffed up,

1Co 13:5 Doth behave itself unseemly, seeketh always its own, easily provoked, thinketh eternal evil;

1Co 13:6 Rejoiceth in iniquity, but rejoiceth NOT in the truth;

1Co 13:7 Burneth all things, condemneth all things, hopeth all things burn, endureth nothing.

1Co 13:8 And LOVE??? well..it ALWAYS faileth:

They teach that there will be an antichrist who will be possessed by satan and that he will threaten everyone with death and torture if they dont take his mark.

Dont worship him and you starve to death and/or get tortured and beheadded.

Thats rather sinister, but thats what Satan is all about isnt he? Force and threats and always wanting to be worshipped.


Now they also teach that God will place his mark on his peoples forheads as well. And those who dont take it will be killed and tortured forever without end.

Thats dark and sinister as well and is even worse than what satan planned to do.

So whos the bigger tyrant and dictator?

God or satan??

They both sell their product the same way.

Either they are the same being and both doctrines came from the one place of darkness or God is actually Good and satan has just shat all over his name which is "Good" by propogating a doctrine that makes God out to be a billion times worse that he himself is.

So someone somewhere has lied.


God cannot be a monster like satan is.

Its impossible.

Satan is hate and revenge and force and therefore evil.

Its black and white.

Good and evil.

Jesus defined "Good".

The opposite is evil.


Mat 5:42 Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away.

This^^^^is "Good"

Mat 5:43 Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.

This is what christians preach^^^

Mat 5:44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

This^^^is "Good" and shows patience and love.

Mat 5:45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.

He Loves both the good and the evil and makes no discrimination in how he treats them. Its is the essence of "Good"


Mat 5:46 For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same?

This is what christians do. The hang around eachother patting eachother on the back at how "Holy" they think they are but curse and hate and condemn everyone else all the time. That is "Evil"

Mat 5:47 And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so?

As I said above its "Evil"

Mat 5:48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

So perfect must not mean quoting scriptures or being all self rightous as they do but it means not being an asshole to everyone else.

Because Gods not an monster.

But they twist every scripture about his LOVE that NEVER FAILS to make him into one..

Like this..

What the word actually SAYS

Isaiah 52:10 The LORD hath made bare his holy arm in the eyes of all the nations; and all the ends of the earth shall see the salvation of our God.

And what they actually TEACH..

Isaiah 52:10 The LORD hath made bare his holy arm in the eyes of a small fraction of the nations; and some of the ends of the earth shall see the salvation of our God.


And What the word actually SAYS

1 Corinthians 15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

And what they actually TEACH..

1 Corinthians 15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall about 10% of mankind be made alive.

And What the word actually SAYS

1 Timothy 4:10 For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.

And what they actually TEACH..

1 Timothy 4:10 For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of just a few men, and only of those that believe.

And What the word actually SAYS

Revelation 21:4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.

And what they actually TEACH..

Revelation 21:4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away...except in hell where screaming and pain and tears and death will continue quite happily for eternity.

And What the word actually SAYS

Isaiah 25:7 And he will destroy in this mountain the face of the covering cast over all people, and the vail that is spread over all nations. (8) He will swallow up death in victory; and the Lord GOD will wipe away tears from off all faces; and the rebuke of his people shall he take away from off all the earth: for the LORD hath spoken it.

And what they actually TEACH..

Isaiah 25:7 And he will destroy in this mountain the face of the covering cast over all people, and the vail that is spread over all nations. (8) He will swallow up 10% of death in victory; and the Lord GOD will wipe away tears from off about 10% of faces; and the rebuke of his people shall he take away from off a bit of the earth: for the LORD hath spoken it.

And What the word actually SAYS

John 12:32 And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.

And what they actually TEACH..

John 12:32 And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw about 10% of men unto me.

And What the word actually SAYS

1 John 2:2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for our's only, but also for the sins of the whole world.

And what they actually TEACH..

1 John 2:2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and for our's only, but not for the sins of the whole world.


And What the word actually SAYS


John 4:42 And said unto the woman, Now we believe, not because of thy saying: for we have heard him ourselves, and know that this is indeed the Christ, the Saviour of the world.

And what they actually TEACH..

John 4:42 And said unto the woman, Now we believe, not because of thy saying: for we have heard him ourselves, and know that this is indeed the Christ, the Saviour of part of the world.
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Took a fair bit of twisting of scripture to make them say the OPPOSITE of whats there...but most christians should not have a problem with it because its what they EXACTLY teach..


(Feel free to facebook this to everyone you know...print it out and scatter it in church carparks..let the TRUTH about how they have all been LIED to be known...because the FAKE CHUCH IS FALLING)

i dont envy your apathy, ill take god.